In watching a lot of the drumming videos and reading the comments it's pretty obvious the age of some of the posters. Everyone has their favorites but there's just no question about the contributions of Max Roach and others of that ilk. What they are doing may not look like much but it's because when they did it , they were the first, now others copy. This man was innovative beyond innovation, there should be no argument about that.
My good friend, you fail to realize that he influenced an entire generation of percussive players. He was essentially the first to do these kinds of hits and experiments. Max Roach pioneered the Bebop musical movement; listen to some of his albums--don't base your judgement on this one video. You may not like this experimental stuff, but if you listen to a few of his recordings, I think you'll be amazed at how solid he is at keeping a beat and maintaining a tight band. Check him out! :o)
The Bass is like a heart beat, that's always there, but changes as the activity in life, the snares and cymbals change, representing the start and middle and end of life.
WOW this dude is nuts. Thought process is def on another level. Doesnt show all the rolls and "technique" that we like to see when soloing, but he shows what drumming is about...expression. And the timing was great too.
To me this is a great demonstration, of the composition of a drum solo, he even had a head!! It was not only amazing to see his wicked chops all around the kit, but the build up of motifs and the development of his solo. Astounding
I never saw the shredder, thank you, he must have it off Camera. I wife just bought me a shredder for my birthday, I still don’t understand how paper shredding can make you a better drummer, but, live and learn. Thanks
hahah phat shoes. That was pretty awesome. I don't know too much about drumming, except for so far, Max Roach and Buddy Rich are the best I've seen. I can't believe Roach can keep the same beat with the bass and hi-hat while doing all of the other things, that is amazing. I couldn't even dream of doing that haha.
I think you'll find i hadn't failed to see how good this music is, I was stating how good it is! my grandad was in a jazz band, my mom is a fanatical jazz fan and maybe you just couldn't comprehend my comment!!!
God, god, god, what an absolute drumming genius! He can play more things on a drum's rim than most drummers can play across the entire drum set! His genius was incredible!
clearly he is making music right here. I love listening to his solos because he starts off with an idea and branches from it to create something amazing
Key words: "outside the box" You really have to have an ear, notice his footwork and artistic expression to appreciate. A true dancer knows you can dance this way: in between the beats and end up where you started dancing to the beat never losing your way. You need great footwork, have the ear, be creative and your average dancer cannot do it. It's out the box. I was a master at it when I danced. Probably still can. Max is awesome. Some people who were taught to dance at dance schools still will never be able to moonwalk, especially to the side. Sometimes it's a gift to be able to exaggerate yourself to think out the box. A standard well studied musician, dancer, sports player e.g., will just never be a Michael Jordan, a Michael Jackson, a Max Roach nor a Mick Jagger. JS
Well said. At times, I find this generation is lost without the guidance and inspiration of such greats. Jackson was truly superhuman. I'm a guy and have NO rhythm. I realize I'll never be great, but could I develop this on the dance floor or am I doomed??
Guy Heller hey maybe your greatness is your keen awareness. To love music, have abundant insight to be aware of 'out of the box" greatness of others is great to me. Besides, if you dance with me, you'll pick up on it and just know! I loved your comments.
Awwww, thanks!! I would LOVE to dance with you...you'd have to be a pretty patient gal, however. Even more so than those pros that work with celebrities on "Dancing with the Stars."
comments regarding this expression captured by the video camera are FUEDAL! Max was a cool cat and a masterful musician. I want to remember that above all.
This is what you below beginner drummers don't get about this solo: 1) The original foot pattern- What time signature is it in? Its not in 4/4. . . 2) When returning to the original foot pattern, even if he was playing at a faster tempo, why was he able to go back to the 'same tempo' it originally started in?. . . . 3) His use of dynamics with his foot.. . Going for VERY SOFT to LOUD and playing accents in between soft notes while playing at faster tempos. . . 4) The theme of going in between 'none-traditional' drum sounds in between 'traditional' drum sounds. . What does that all mean? 1 + 2 = He is able to keep a reference time and temp in his mind while playing faster tempos and return to that reference pattern at the original tempo. . . 3 = He has a LOT of control. Having ACTIVE foot control is one of the hardest things to have while playing drums and even back then a lot of drummers never showed that much control when they played. 4 = The solo was not created to show off his technique or 'chops'. Its theme is to say 'there are other things here that we can try out'. . Below beginner players wouldn't figure any of that out because none of you practice anything outside of basic beats and 'attempting' to play fast. . . . Keep Drumming Jonathan Riddick
***** Yeah..Rich was damn good. But he didn't really do much during solos outside of the snare. I like other jazz drummers more because they created a one man sound scape with the drums, not just playing rudiments.
ok, as I said, I reply to your comment... 1) It's 5/8 and so what? Is this that difficult to keep time in five? Please notice that he plays very imprecisely and it means that he had weak control of what he was doing. 2) Hahahaha :D Firstible - he did not turn to the "same tempo". It would be tiny bit of challenge if he returned from (example) 84bpm to 84bpm. He didn't do that, even that he played this shitty solo over and over for years. Even beginner drummer would be able to remember the "original" tempo. This is not the strong awareness. Strong awereness of time is when you can play to the click, turn off the click for 1 minute, then, turn on and still keep playing in the same time or if you can mathematically slow down or get faster by metric modulation. Check out Mike Johnston, really great drummer who has nice lessons about it, maybe you will see the real deal some day... 3) Did you ever heard about the "heel-toe" technique? This pattern is a really simple move for your legs if you use this technique. Using dynamics is one of the basic things in playing drums so I'm really suprised that you even noticed that as something important in case of "world class" drummer. He didn't show any virtuosity here... these are basic things, simple as hell. Very imprecisely by the way... as always. 4) "The theme of going in between 'none-traditional' drum sounds in between 'traditional' drum sounds. ." So... simple speaking... just random, accidental hitting, like a baby on the drums :) and... "The solo was not created to show off his technique or 'chops'. Its theme is to say 'there are other things here that we can try out'. ." It's not an excuse for playing sloppy, imprecisely, out of time and accidental... In overall, he didn't show ANYTHING. But morons like you glorify him all the time and try to make him a drum virtuoso which ofcourse he wasn't. I understand convention of this music, this is art (good or bad - it's a matter of opinion) and it's not focused to be perfect and 100% professional so stop showing your incompetence by talking bullshit cause the only person here who is INMATURE is YOU. It is, what it is but for sure it's not a PROFESSIONAL DRUMMING. Think about it and take care, kid.
Most don't understand that Max Roach is the drummer that innovates. And his innovation is much used today in jazz. Arguably more than any one single drummer ever. Learning drums, it's easy (not in a technical way) to copy Max Roach's licks. It makes so much sense and so pure in swing jazz context.
Im a Guitarist, But i loved that!! i hear alot of drummers (forgive me i dont know the name of technique) hitting the rim without the actuall drum. Is this guy one of the pioneers of this??? message me if u know!! :)
30 plus years ago, i was playing at a jazz fest, and was fortunate to meet max and listen to him play. later that same day, i got to listen to buddy rich play and meet him as well. yes...max has that loose style (sometimes erratic ) buddy....well...if god has band, we know who's playing drums.
Too bad noone is upholding the art like this man. there will NEVER be another. i was very depressed when this great man went back to the essence. travel on my brother.
I think he's the first drummer I've ever seen hit other things than the heads or rims in order to drums. It's astounding, such ground-breaking stuff which no-one knows about.
Max kept pushing and trying new things until the end, as so stayed relevant long after most of his contemporaries. His exploration of new timbres is what's most interesting here, with the clicking of wood and metal and the ringing overtones, and typical of how he kept searching for something new to be excited about in his own playing.
It's actually simpler than any of you actually think. His feet are keeping a simple 5/4, very common among jazz drummers of his era. His hands are doing a combination of singles, doubles, diddles, you name it. It's simplicity in it's most sophisticated form.
This expresses my feelings in this specific moment. Or maybe it created something new in my soul that I've never felt before. I may have just now felt God hearing to this or maybe I didn't... Sorry I'm only talking about myself. This is awesome!
I actually understand Roach better and better as I listen to those pieces posted on youtube, and this guy really is a brilliant drummer, easily the most innovative of all time, the piece "The Third Eye" I would describe as an experimental one, its very creative, how he hits the side of the toms, thats purely creative and he fits this well.
It's good and creative for now, too. Most drummers today can play beats and patterns with good technique and everything and that's all good and fine, but that's not what music is about. Watching drummers like Max, you get a sense of where he's at, where he's going, and a feeling. They really lay into the groove. Plus there's a lot of technical stuff from people like Elvin Jones that today's drummers only dream of doing.
the texture of this solo is amazing. i love how creative and musical it is. there are certainly chops being displayed, but the solo isn't great because of them. Thomas Lang is one of those "WOW" guys who amazes you with his sheer virtuosity. i listen to this solo on the other hand and walk away thinking, "hmmm. i never thought about it like that before..."
You have to stop focusing on the "time" and the technical aspect of the piece and almost forget he's playing drums, and just think about the image he creates with the sounds that he's producing.
The time signature is 5/8 (at this tempo, anyway; a little slower you'd call it 5/4). Interpretation (and time) is fairly free, loose. I like this. It is, as is pointed out elsewhere, artistic; art. Really a growing for Max to take this chance of being misunderstood, but his willingness to be judged for the feeling of it more than the sound (and I like the sound tho many won't like/respect it) shows evolution; he was considered by some "stiff", precise but a bit unemotional, notwithstanding his obvious talent and achievements, which were considerable (need I list them here?). Think of the title, and listen to this again, for the essence.
I noticed that the older a video is, the more people say stupid things about the video. But that is the youtube rule, haters will show up on videos later on and talk smack. But since they are behind their computer screens, they don't have to back it up. Which is probably why NONE of the people here that typed 'this guy sucks', because he 'almost knocked over his snare' can play the first 4 bars of this drum-solo correctly. Kids today.
but the point is he basically invented the odd-time ostinato for drumset. in my humble opinion, this solo is an abstract, avante-garde, albeit loose, musical reference to his influence on drum soloing, african rhythms, and visual musicianship. max roach is the man, and SUNDAY is his BIRTHDAY!!!!! MAX ROACH! MAX ROACH! MAX ROACH!
lets look outside the box here people...at a time when drummers like buddy rich were major on the scene, this cat pulled out solos that, yes buddy could have done, but buddy did not come up with or put down on track. We can't compare what Max did to what we know as music now, it's all in context. Just respect the man for what he accomplished, or atleast accept it.
I have to concur with beatfreakish and other comments like it in that this is not your standard 4/4 rock 'n roll beat. This is jazz, and to those who have no concept of it don't appreciate it. People who broke the mold of the same old stuff helped move the music world along.
@dylanmulcahy ...never had someone call me 'like really dumb". Is that different from just plain dumb? I am smart enough to know that a million hours = 114 years, so this dude must've been pretty old to spend that many hours practicing. I've been spending hours on my knees praying every day that I come close to being half as good as Roach just like u said. I jumped on my drumset, missed a strike aimed at my hi-hat and knocked my snare drum right off of it's stand....it worked, HALLELUJAH!!!
Falló el augurio y los perros no reconocieron el latido, solo la nube blanca que en la noche acoge la luz sabía que ese toque era salvífico. ¡Vencido el oráculo!
I tend to agree, except I quite enjoy his very short solos (or long fills, if you prefer). I was never a fan of his footwork, but had great technique with his hands.
I don't think this sounds bad though. I like how this sounds more than a lot of the really routine drums solos people play now. It's different, but it still doesn't sound bad.
While I personally enjoy this video, I cant argue that if his face was blurred out and the title was just "crazy dude flailing on drums", no one would argue it was good.
It's going to sound patronising, but Max is delivering a musical expression too advanced for many here to understand. There IS a thread of time running here in his playing, he knows where he is and what he's doing. This is inevitably going to come across as arhythmic thrashing about to the musically inexperienced; it's not.
In watching a lot of the drumming videos and reading the comments it's pretty obvious the age of some of the posters. Everyone has their favorites but there's just no question about the contributions of Max Roach and others of that ilk. What they are doing may not look like much but it's because when they did it , they were the first, now others copy. This man was innovative beyond innovation, there should be no argument about that.
My good friend, you fail to realize that he influenced an entire generation of percussive players. He was essentially the first to do these kinds of hits and experiments. Max Roach pioneered the Bebop musical movement; listen to some of his albums--don't base your judgement on this one video. You may not like this experimental stuff, but if you listen to a few of his recordings, I think you'll be amazed at how solid he is at keeping a beat and maintaining a tight band. Check him out! :o)
The Bass is like a heart beat, that's always there, but changes as the activity in life, the snares and cymbals change, representing the start and middle and end of life.
My dear brother in christ, how much life are you on
WOW this dude is nuts. Thought process is def on another level. Doesnt show all the rolls and "technique" that we like to see when soloing, but he shows what drumming is about...expression. And the timing was great too.
To me this is a great demonstration, of the composition of a drum solo, he even had a head!! It was not only amazing to see his wicked chops all around the kit, but the build up of motifs and the development of his solo. Astounding
Wow, I finally understand what's going on and it's mind blowing... thanks Max
Yes, crazy thing is he is playing constant 3 with his legs. insane as f***
FUCK it's intense when he's shredding and then goes back into the hardware clicking, brilliant tension and dynamics. Roach was the man.
I never saw the shredder, thank you, he must have it off Camera. I wife just bought me a shredder for my birthday, I still don’t understand how paper shredding can make you a better drummer, but, live and learn. Thanks
Max Roach a true musical genius and a virtuoso drummer, with Charlie Parker and Gillpespie took music and jazz drumming to another level
hahah phat shoes. That was pretty awesome. I don't know too much about drumming, except for so far, Max Roach and Buddy Rich are the best I've seen. I can't believe Roach can keep the same beat with the bass and hi-hat while doing all of the other things, that is amazing. I couldn't even dream of doing that haha.
I think you'll find i hadn't failed to see how good this music is, I was stating how good it is! my grandad was in a jazz band, my mom is a fanatical jazz fan and maybe you just couldn't comprehend my comment!!!
God, god, god, what an absolute drumming genius! He can play more things on a drum's rim than most drummers can play across the entire drum set! His genius was incredible!
Max Roach is so amazing, he can make cymbal stands sound beautiful.
clearly he is making music right here. I love listening to his solos because he starts off with an idea and branches from it to create something amazing
Max Roach was a genius with his own style hitting drums like never before
Indeed
+A.C. Ceenno My Dad who was a NYC drummer starting in the 40's, loved Max. My favorite recording of Max is Parisian Sketches.
Oh wow mines to :)
Mad props to this man. Ridiculously talented. Had complete control of his set and played outside the box.
Key words: "outside the box"
You really have to have an ear, notice his footwork and artistic expression to appreciate.
A true dancer knows you can dance this way:
in between the beats and end up where you started dancing to the beat never losing your way. You need great footwork, have the ear, be creative and your average dancer cannot do it. It's out the box. I was a master at it when I danced. Probably still can.
Max is awesome.
Some people who were taught to dance at dance schools still will never be able to moonwalk, especially to the side. Sometimes it's a gift to be able to exaggerate yourself to think out the box. A standard well studied musician, dancer, sports player e.g.,
will just never be a Michael Jordan, a Michael Jackson, a Max Roach nor a Mick Jagger. JS
Well said. At times, I find this generation is lost without the guidance and inspiration of such greats. Jackson was truly superhuman. I'm a guy and have NO rhythm. I realize I'll never be great, but could I develop this on the dance floor or am I doomed??
Guy Heller hey maybe your greatness is your keen awareness. To love music, have abundant insight to be aware of 'out of the box" greatness of others is great to me.
Besides, if you dance with me, you'll pick up on it and just know!
I loved your comments.
Awwww, thanks!! I would LOVE to dance with you...you'd have to be a pretty patient gal, however. Even more so than those pros that work with celebrities on "Dancing with the Stars."
Guy Heller not a problem
comments regarding this expression captured by the video camera are FUEDAL! Max was a cool cat and a masterful musician. I want to remember that above all.
This is what you below beginner drummers don't get about this solo:
1) The original foot pattern- What time signature is it in? Its not in 4/4. . .
2) When returning to the original foot pattern, even if he was playing at a faster tempo, why was he able to go back to the 'same tempo' it originally started in?. . . .
3) His use of dynamics with his foot.. . Going for VERY SOFT to LOUD and playing accents in between soft notes while playing at faster tempos. . .
4) The theme of going in between 'none-traditional' drum sounds in between 'traditional' drum sounds. .
What does that all mean?
1 + 2 = He is able to keep a reference time and temp in his mind while playing faster tempos and return to that reference pattern at the original tempo. . .
3 = He has a LOT of control. Having ACTIVE foot control is one of the hardest things to have while playing drums and even back then a lot of drummers never showed that much control when they played.
4 = The solo was not created to show off his technique or 'chops'. Its theme is to say 'there are other things here that we can try out'. .
Below beginner players wouldn't figure any of that out because none of you practice anything outside of basic beats and 'attempting' to play fast. . . .
Keep Drumming
Jonathan Riddick
*****
Yeah..Rich was damn good. But he didn't really do much during solos outside of the snare. I like other jazz drummers more because they created a one man sound scape with the drums, not just playing rudiments.
ok, as I said, I reply to your comment...
1) It's 5/8 and so what? Is this that difficult to keep time in five? Please notice that he plays very imprecisely and it means that he had weak control of what he was doing.
2) Hahahaha :D Firstible - he did not turn to the "same tempo". It would be tiny bit of challenge if he returned from (example) 84bpm to 84bpm. He didn't do that, even that he played this shitty solo over and over for years. Even beginner drummer would be able to remember the "original" tempo. This is not the strong awareness. Strong awereness of time is when you can play to the click, turn off the click for 1 minute, then, turn on and still keep playing in the same time or if you can mathematically slow down or get faster by metric modulation. Check out Mike Johnston, really great drummer who has nice lessons about it, maybe you will see the real deal some day...
3) Did you ever heard about the "heel-toe" technique? This pattern is a really simple move for your legs if you use this technique. Using dynamics is one of the basic things in playing drums so I'm really suprised that you even noticed that as something important in case of "world class" drummer. He didn't show any virtuosity here... these are basic things, simple as hell. Very imprecisely by the way... as always.
4) "The theme of going in between 'none-traditional' drum sounds in between 'traditional' drum sounds. ."
So... simple speaking... just random, accidental hitting, like a baby on the drums :)
and...
"The solo was not created to show off his technique or 'chops'. Its theme is to say 'there are other things here that we can try out'. ."
It's not an excuse for playing sloppy, imprecisely, out of time and accidental...
In overall, he didn't show ANYTHING.
But morons like you glorify him all the time and try to make him a drum virtuoso which ofcourse he wasn't. I understand convention of this music, this is art (good or bad - it's a matter of opinion) and it's not focused to be perfect and 100% professional so stop showing your incompetence by talking bullshit cause the only person here who is INMATURE is YOU. It is, what it is but for sure it's not a PROFESSIONAL DRUMMING.
Think about it and take care, kid.
Łukasz Jaskulski
In some forms of music you gotta say fuck technique and timing and just PLAY without thinking.
Funny, I don't even play drums and I caught all of this right off the bat.
*****
you try to tell me that this isn't played imprecisely? Are you deaf??
Most don't understand that Max Roach is the drummer that innovates. And his innovation is much used today in jazz. Arguably more than any one single drummer ever.
Learning drums, it's easy (not in a technical way) to copy Max Roach's licks. It makes so much sense and so pure in swing jazz context.
The Man was Goin NUTS and playin everything BUT the Drum heads...This man was truly a genius and one of a Kind...
most melodic drummer I ever heard.
Im a Guitarist, But i loved that!! i hear alot of drummers (forgive me i dont know the name of technique) hitting the rim without the actuall drum. Is this guy one of the pioneers of this??? message me if u know!! :)
He sent me here too! Glad he did, that was great.
30 plus years ago, i was playing at a jazz fest, and was fortunate to meet max and listen to him play. later that same day, i got to listen to buddy rich play and meet him as well.
yes...max has that loose style (sometimes erratic ) buddy....well...if god has band, we know who's playing drums.
Definitely one of my favorite drummers more drummers should study this cat.
RIP Max Roach! The world won't be the same without u!
He's my favorite drummer!
Too bad noone is upholding the art like this man. there will NEVER be another. i was very depressed when this great man went back to the essence. travel on my brother.
I think he's the first drummer I've ever seen hit other things than the heads or rims in order to drums. It's astounding, such ground-breaking stuff which no-one knows about.
Max kept pushing and trying new things until the end, as so stayed relevant long after most of his contemporaries. His exploration of new timbres is what's most interesting here, with the clicking of wood and metal and the ringing overtones, and typical of how he kept searching for something new to be excited about in his own playing.
never seen a guy get so crazy on drums but look so professional at the same time.
One of the true greats. Life is better with Max.
Okay, I'm finished with my youtubing for the day. This was the most awesome thing I've seen/heard this morning.
yea he reached a level that only maybe a few artists other than himself can taste a fraction of what he wanted to express
There is nothing wrong with him. That is a GENIUS at work!!!
Yeah right! Like Yoko Ono😂
You will live on through your works and our collective memory, Max. Rest in peace.
Amazing how he goes nuts around the kit then goes right back to 1 with the hi hat bass drum combo
Good gracious! He's absolutely incredible!
It's actually simpler than any of you actually think. His feet are keeping a simple 5/4, very common among jazz drummers of his era. His hands are doing a combination of singles, doubles, diddles, you name it. It's simplicity in it's most sophisticated form.
I know this comment is old but hes not keeping time in 5/4, and diddles are the same thing as doubles you pea brain.
This expresses my feelings in this specific moment. Or maybe it created something new in my soul that I've never felt before. I may have just now felt God hearing to this or maybe I didn't... Sorry I'm only talking about myself. This is awesome!
Masterful......outstanding techniques!
Thank god! Someone needed to say it exactly like that.
Holy Moly! Max is excellent!
He's definitely someone special as far as a filter of
God/Energy/Mojo/Universe/whatever-the-hell ya wanna call it : )
This drummer has some ears that have produced well educated beats.
I love it! For me it's not better or worse than anything, it just is, and I can dig it. Its like,,,,,,crazy man. (snap, snap, snap!)
I actually understand Roach better and better as I listen to those pieces posted on youtube, and this guy really is a brilliant drummer, easily the most innovative of all time, the piece "The Third Eye" I would describe as an experimental one, its very creative, how he hits the side of the toms, thats purely creative and he fits this well.
Somewhere I read, "one of the true mark's of a master, is to make the difficult appear easy".
Max Roach was a Grandmaster.
simply a legend... may he rest in peace...
Pure feeling and innovation!
wow...
speechless
Talk about smacking the crap outta your shells lol. Great stuff!
Proud to be related to this guy :)
R.I.P. Max Roach..you will be remembered for ever!
RIP Max you are my hero
I just read an article by Mr Crover and then saw a Max Roach album 'We Insist' posted on facebook and ended up here.... not that it matters
It's good and creative for now, too. Most drummers today can play beats and patterns with good technique and everything and that's all good and fine, but that's not what music is about. Watching drummers like Max, you get a sense of where he's at, where he's going, and a feeling. They really lay into the groove. Plus there's a lot of technical stuff from people like Elvin Jones that today's drummers only dream of doing.
Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa and Max Roach are the best jazz drummers, each one with his own style
wow that's so wild Love it!
the texture of this solo is amazing. i love how creative and musical it is. there are certainly chops being displayed, but the solo isn't great because of them. Thomas Lang is one of those "WOW" guys who amazes you with his sheer virtuosity. i listen to this solo on the other hand and walk away thinking, "hmmm. i never thought about it like that before..."
You have to stop focusing on the "time" and the technical aspect of the piece and almost forget he's playing drums, and just think about the image he creates with the sounds that he's producing.
Alec Bloch exactly
Max, the sculptor. 👉🏼🥁
He is also a rock drummer. Very good at that.
The time signature is 5/8 (at this tempo, anyway; a little slower you'd call it 5/4). Interpretation (and time) is fairly free, loose. I like this. It is, as is pointed out elsewhere, artistic; art. Really a growing for Max to take this chance of being misunderstood, but his willingness to be judged for the feeling of it more than the sound (and I like the sound tho many won't like/respect it) shows evolution; he was considered by some "stiff", precise but a bit unemotional, notwithstanding his obvious talent and achievements, which were considerable (need I list them here?).
Think of the title, and listen to this again, for the essence.
I noticed that the older a video is, the more people say stupid things about the video.
But that is the youtube rule, haters will show up on videos later on and talk smack. But since they are behind their computer screens, they don't have to back it up.
Which is probably why NONE of the people here that typed 'this guy sucks', because he 'almost knocked over his snare' can play the first 4 bars of this drum-solo correctly.
Kids today.
***** You're right. ''If you don't have ability you wind up playing in a rock band.''
still love his work!!
The man is a machine!!!
thank you for this
but the point is he basically invented the odd-time ostinato for drumset. in my humble opinion, this solo is an abstract, avante-garde, albeit loose, musical reference to his influence on drum soloing, african rhythms, and visual musicianship. max roach is the man, and SUNDAY is his BIRTHDAY!!!!! MAX ROACH! MAX ROACH! MAX ROACH!
Man's a GENIUS !!!
Amazing!
lets look outside the box here people...at a time when drummers like buddy rich were major on the scene, this cat pulled out solos that, yes buddy could have done, but buddy did not come up with or put down on track. We can't compare what Max did to what we know as music now, it's all in context. Just respect the man for what he accomplished, or atleast accept it.
this is beautifulk
One of the strangest and coolest drums solos ever.
Max was a master but this piece unfortunately doesn't show his best. God bless Max
"He clearly can't keep up the bass/hi-hat combo he starts off with"
lol, it was good laugh, youre really funny
:)
fantastic!
hes fucking blazed like every musician in the jazz scene
wow.... my head almost blew up!
I have to concur with beatfreakish and other comments like it in that this is not your standard 4/4 rock 'n roll beat. This is jazz, and to those who have no concept of it don't appreciate it. People who broke the mold of the same old stuff helped move the music world along.
got to love da shoes!
@dylanmulcahy ...never had someone call me 'like really dumb". Is that different from just plain dumb? I am smart enough to know that a million hours = 114 years, so this dude must've been pretty old to spend that many hours practicing. I've been spending hours on my knees praying every day that I come close to being half as good as Roach just like u said. I jumped on my drumset, missed a strike aimed at my hi-hat and knocked my snare drum right off of it's stand....it worked, HALLELUJAH!!!
"damn roach crawling round on my drums!"
Falló el augurio y los perros no reconocieron el latido, solo la nube blanca que en la noche acoge la luz sabía que ese toque era salvífico. ¡Vencido el oráculo!
unbelievable!
I tend to agree, except I quite enjoy his very short solos (or long fills, if you prefer). I was never a fan of his footwork, but had great technique with his hands.
Roach is the greatest drummer ever he's nowhere near horrible.
That's pretty tight!
whaatttt is gooiinnngg onnnnn?! AAAHHHHHHHH!!!
drumming has come a LOOONG WAY!
I don't think this sounds bad though. I like how this sounds more than a lot of the really routine drums solos people play now. It's different, but it still doesn't sound bad.
Holy fuck, I can feel the intensity dripping from this man!
Happy birthday Max.
AWESOME!!!!!!!
This is unreal.
While I personally enjoy this video, I cant argue that if his face was blurred out and the title was just "crazy dude flailing on drums", no one would argue it was good.
As good and cool as the drumming is, so is the camerawork! Nice
It's going to sound patronising, but Max is delivering a musical expression too advanced for many here to understand. There IS a thread of time running here in his playing, he knows where he is and what he's doing.
This is inevitably going to come across as arhythmic thrashing about to the musically inexperienced; it's not.
Now that's funny!! It's no wonder the war is still dragging on
@SMWhit3out take a look more of MAX ROACH ..-he is a true master .
thanks man