Squatch LORE vs. Pound RUFUS | What we've all been waiting for! (Especially me!! HAHA)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2023
- The time has come for one of the most exciting comparisons I've had on my channel! The Squatch LORE vs. Pound RUFUS!! I can't wait to hear what you guys think of these 2 bags. I equally love them both!!! But, the Lore is refreshing in some ways. LOL
You can find both bags here:
RUFUS:
pounddiscgolf.com/products/co...
Weight: 3.2lbs
Dimensions: 17H x 14.5W x 8.75D
LORE:
squatchdiscgolf.com/products/...
Weight: 3.2lbs
Dimensions: 17H x 13.5W x 8.5D - กีฬา
The internal elastic umbrella holder on the pound is so much cleaner than having to use a bungee cord
Best review of the Lore. Love the comparison.
Really great review, I already bought the lore but it was nice to see some different perspective on the setup and also the comparison to the pound.
Outstanding comparison video !!
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Wow the side pockets on the Rufus make it worth the price. Impressive!
Thanks for the great content! I love my deluxe Rufus, only wish is that it had more d-ring locations. That and the same issue most bags have with getting the side discs out of the main pocket. Mvp Voyager (older versions I think) solved yhe issue by not having the zipper curve around the corners and just end on each side but it hasnt caught on yet. Id give all your videos 4.5 stars if i could and then 5 stars once the table squeak is gone.😂
Hahaha! Yes, I'm working on getting a new table for the "studio." 😆 It's a process, that's for sure.
I just ordered my CR Rufus. Cant wait.
Congratulations!!! That's so exciting! The CR Rufus is beautiful!
Still wish the Rufus had the larger putter pocket from the octo’s - seeing it on the Lore makes it a head scratcher as to why - but I just can’t get over the side pockets on the Lore for some reason. Appreciate the feature side by side - but looking forward to hearing your review.
I’m with you on the lore side pockets
Review coming soon. I only need a couple more rounds with it before making my final conclusions.
@@ViridiskI'm really looking forward to your review. I'd love to know:
1. Comfort. Especially compared to the Rufus and the Legend.
2. Stability. Does it fall over? It's it top heavy?
3 ease of use. I love the firm factor. I actually really like the versatility of the side pockets.
Thanks for all these reviews. Subbed!
@@chiebert290 Hi there! Thank you for the sub! I've addressed this in my review. But, I'll summarize it here in case other people read the comments.
1. The Lore is comfortable, but the Rufus is slightly more comfortable.
2. The Lore is stable. It is not top heavy and it doesn't fall over as easily as other bags I've used.
3. The Lore is very user friendly. Just like any product with innovative design, the Lore does take some time to get used to. Especially the side pockets, but it doesn't take long to familiarize yourself with all its functions. You'll get the hang of how to use the side pockets and its putter pocket real quick.
Hope that helps!
@@Viridisk oh I watched your review! It was great.
Great reviews! I have an odd question, how well does the Lore rainfly fit/function on the Rufus? They seem to be close enough in size. I know the button vs Velcro loop attachment at top are different, but seems like it would still work 🤔
I might eventually end up with both bags, but the Lore rainfly is less expensive haha
Hi! The Lore rainfly will fit on the Rufus (I just tried it). However, it's slightly bigger on the bottom, so the main compartment opening doesn't completely line up. But it's definitely still usable. The top flap works fine to access the putter pouch.
Thanks. Very good comparison. I like the putter pocket on the Lore much better. I am new and while I bag a good amount of discs, I only am comfortable using few consistently each round. So most used fairways and mids would go there for me. Do like the Rufus side pockets better. I just can't get over that price difference. The Pound would have to wow me for over 100 dollar difference I would think.
The price difference is quite a bit. However, after using both, the Rufus is overall a well-balanced in comfort once worn compared to Lore 1.0. The Rufus also does come with double convertible side pockets now, so it's even more usable than before. It's a tough choice, that's for sure.
So did the Pound water bottle insert fit in the Lore side pocket in place of the Lore cooler? Would be interested in that divider as well…
Yes! The Rufus insert fits perfectly in the outer part of the Lore side pocket.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!! I appreciate it!
With the lore, did you find that carrying a water bottle in the outer pocket compromises the inner one? I have a custom deluxe Rufus and love it, but I’m always curious about new bags.
Carrying a water bottle on the outer part of the pocket does compromise some of the space of the inner part of the pocket. But, still doable.
Can you compare the lore to the legend and link. Thinking about moving from the legend to one of the smaller squatch bags
Hi! My friend is getting a black and red colorway Legend. Once he gets a hold of that, I'll ask to see if I can borrow his to do a comparison video. As for the Link, I'll try to see if I secure one.
Does the Pound insulated water bottle holder with dividers fit in the Squatch water bottle pocket?
YES! It does! I forgot to show it in the video. But the Rufus size insulated pouch fits perfectly in the Lore side pocket. I don't think the Thorpe/Haul size insulated pocket will, though.
Perfect, I just ordered one for my Lore. Thanks so much for the review!!
Does the lore have the same issue getting discs out of the side portions of the main disc storage as the rufus does? Or is that issue only occuring with the rufus? Thanks! I am debating which one to get
The issue with pulling discs from the side is marginally better on the Lore.
What colors did you choose for the Rufus? Grey and navy with grey zippers? Or is the top sage?
My Rufus is Ballistic nylon Olive and Navy colorway with gray zippers.
Is one more comfortable than the other with them loaded up? I’ve got a legend 3.0 and it’s a bit heavy loaded up still comfortable to wear but might downsize to one of these.
Oddly, the Rufus is still more comfortable to put on and wear when fully loaded. I don't know what they do with their bags that make it so balanced. BUT, with that being said, the Lore is by no means a slouch in the comfort department. I think they just need to tweak the position of the strap attachment points, and they'll have a winner of bags.
The straps on all pound bags are not only the most padded and most comfortable, but also designed to be easily replaced when needed, as that is the most likely component to ever wear out. I've had a pound bag for over 5 years and most of that time I've played at least 5 rounds a week and it's still holding up as good as new. There's no question that pound is the better value
@@Viridisk the Rufus fully loaded feels lighter that it should. It’s like it has helium balloons in the straps or something.
@@samagee2211 how is it a better value? The Squatch is made with materials and build quality that are equivalent. They both have a lifetime warranty. They both have replaceable straps. Considering the Lore is 40% less, how in the world can you objectively say that Rufus is a better value? Pound makes great bags, but it is a huge stretch to say they are a better value than Squatch.
If you had to grab only one of these bags, which would you pick? :)
If money was no object, I'd have to go with the Rufus, especially with the option of having symmetrical side pockets now. The stool holder is more secure imo. And, it's still more comfortable to wear. But if money was of concern, I'd go with the Lore hands down over any other brand.
The original is the best. Squatch has been ripping of pound from the start. There's no questing that the pound bags are the best quality out there and 100% made in America.
@@samagee2211"made in america" doesnt mean its better quality lmao. They have almost identical materials to squatch, and brands like european birdies are just as good if not better than pound
@@ludvig7473 I think samagee was assuming he was talking to another American. Selling point there would be supporting a "local" business rather than a foreign one, not necessarily referring to any quality aspect.
Do you play disc golf valley? I've been running into someone called "discvirrepro" which seems a lot like your names.
I have not play disc golf valley.
Is that a Ballistic version of the rufus?
Yes.
I’m legit shocked that the Lore doesn’t have the main flap Velcro. That is so strange.
Why is it needed? It is an added cost with no real benefit. With the Lore being shorter than the Legend, the flap literally rests right on top of your discs. Adding a piece of velcro wouldn't change the position of the flap at all as the flap would still be sitting right on top of the discs in the main compartment.
@@tonygutermuth9347 it’s a negligible additional cost, and I can’t think of another bag of similar front flap design that doesn’t have it. It might not be needed strictly speaking, but it’s pretty much a standard issue. Of all the rings to exclude to save costs, this is pretty much last on the list. My cheapest $50 Innova bag had it. Feels like a mistake here that will be fixed in later drops.
@@seangalbraith6837 I hope you don’t feel like I am picking on you. I just want to explain. It wasn’t excluded to save cost, it was excluded because it adds no function or value and therefore ANY additional cost is unjustified. Kind of like putting belt loops on swimming trunks that have a drawstring.
@@tonygutermuth9347 I have the Rufus, which has it, and I find that it has a value and function and is worth the $0.05 cost (or whatever it is). If it is cost justified (and therefore function justified) on a $30 bag (like the cheapest, smallest Prodigy ones), I don’t see how it isn’t cost justified on a $200 bag.
@@tonygutermuth9347it's a pretty cheap oversight for a bag in the premium gear price range. Sometimes I play with a small number of discs for glow. Velcro is a small quality of life item they slipped on
Am I crazy or did you forget to count a disc in the Lore? When you say "twelve" I think you move your finger three discs
Hi! So, I rewatched the video, and I can understand why it can be confusing. When I got to 12, I moved my hand over what looked like 3 discs, but it was actually only 2. Some of the Axiom midrange discs look like 2 discs from a distant because it has a wider rim color (they usuale have 2 tone colors, 1 on top plate and 1 on the side), and so from certain angles, it does look like 2 discs. This is why it looked like I went over 3 discs instead of 2. I recounted the discs in the main compartment of the Lore, and there are indeed 16 discs. Hope this clarifies things! Thanks for pointing that out!
If these were the same price I'd get the lore. There are so many strange compromises with the Rufus. So surprising from a company like Pound.
I think the Rufus' design has purpose. I think the sole purpose from Pound is for a bag to carry 20-24 discs while balanced once it's on your back. As a matter of fact, the other bags in their lineup have a similar design, even though it doesn't seem like it. I will try to do a video to explain it.
But if they were the same price and comfort was not my top priority, I'd pick the Lore, too. But since I value comfort overall all,, I'd choose the Rufus.
Thanks for your reply. It's great to hear feedback from someone with that much experience with Pound's line up.
I think there's a lot I'm not seeing with the Rufus because everyone who has one loves it. Even those with Pound's larger bags.
(One exception is that it doesn't seem to fit well for taller people).
But here are the minor areas that would really annoy me if I bought a Rufus:
- asymmetrical design when open (because I would never use both sides the same way)
- leaving the side pocket open makes the bag look incomplete exposing that half zipper
- lack of sufficient d rings
- difficulty pulling out the discs from the sides of the main compartment
-top putter pouch would also bug me
-mini pocket is too big as people have mentioned that thier mini falls out of it
Don't get me wrong, I still think the Rufus is an amazing bag. It might only take me a couple rounds to get over all these minor gripes. And then I'd love it. And tell all my friends that it's the best bag I'd ever owned. But for now, I'll order a Lore.
@@chiebert290 The Rufus is definitely not for everyone. As a matter of fact, even some of the Pros who are sponsored by Pound had gripes with the Rufus being asymmetrical. Hence, Cole Redalen, asked for a symmetrical design on his Rufus.
Pound now offers a symmetrical deluxe Rufus on their website.
The challenge of pulling discs out of the sides of the main compartment is definitely something you'd have to learn to live with. And for some people, that's not acceptable given the price point of the Rufus.
The putter pocket on the Rufus does have it's cons. But, I do believe there was a purpose for that pocket's design, given the overall size of the Rufus. The tapered design of that pocket is part of the reason why I think the Rufus sits so comfortably when compared to other bags in its class. That and it's shoulder straps' placement.
I did notice that the mini marker pocket is a bit bigger than the their other bags, which is odd to me, too. LOL
Yes, I do believe that once you hit the course with the Rufus, all of your dislikes about it tends to vanish. I have the same problem, too! LOL
But, that doesn't change that there are some cons given its price point. :)
Thanks for your thoughts 👍
Pound not worth the price difference.
Squatch bags are a blatant rip off of Pound bags and nowhere close to the same quality. Pay once for a pound bag that has lifetime warranty, or several times for a piece of crap. The choice is obvious obvious
Here we see the typical arrogant american that cant fathom that brands outside of the US also can have good quality.
Also, every Pound owner I see always brag about how good their bag is and shit on squatch, feeling a bit insecure that they match them for half the price?😂
Hard disagree. Lore is a reasonable product that takes advantage of the significant price point of the pound bag
Don't they both have lifetime guarantees
@darktor I don't know about the squatch warranty. But I've personally had my first generation octothorpe warrantied with no problems. I ran into Levi at pier Park when he first moved to Portland. I asked him if he could fix my zipper. He said no problem. After playing a round with him, he offered to make a whole new bag with some small changes to see what my feedback was. At the time I played every day. I ran into the same issue with that bag and after that he made me another bag with beefed up zippers, which is now standard on all pound bags. I've had this bag for 5 years at least now and there's zero problems. Levi is the man and truly cares about making the best quality bags.
Everything is basically a rip off of something else. If you feel so strongly about it are you also only throwing Innova? Since every other disc is a rip off of something they made.