OLODUMARE BLESS baba and preserve his life more... This is one of the few ones who understands..orisha kan ole GNANI la, OLODUMARE NIKAN LOTO KA SÌN KASI BO
Ok, again I’m a new Isese devotee, so I’m still learning…. I thought that we offer sacrifice or appease Esu so that he can carry our prayers to Olodumare. Maybe appeasement and sacrifice are two different things?
@JJ-wv3wy we have our doctrine in yoruba isese and there is nothing questionable. First thing you need to know is that ifa is for yoruba people but other people are welcome, we dont do things how it's done in South Africa. We do things based on how orunmila instructed us and not what we think is right. The right way is how our ancestors did it . We have orishas for the society and some families have their own orisha. You are allowed to appease either one, no one is forcing one or the other on you since only Olodumare is supreme however, we do have orishas in ifa we make sacrifices to and these are people who stood out in community and not just our family. People we believe can intercede for us before Olodmare. They are levels above your family orisha because they were sent to us a yorubas by olodumare and not just to a particular family. If you want to appease your family orisha, so be it but communal orishas are superior to family ones. That's why we have orisha akunlebo which is also superior to orisha adurobo. What you are describing is close to egungun practise that focuses more on direct ancestors worship, we have that as well but it's different in ifa which focuses on communal orisha and which is considered superior. You can't compare people who helped a whole tribe to someone who's just from your family line, just because they're from your family line doesn't mean they did anything great in this world but you are allowed to specially revere your direct ancestors if you like. Just remember you can't compare them to Sango, Ogun, Orunmila and Co. It's all about levels and its in every religion. Christians revere Jesus, Muslims revere Mohammed, Buddhist revere Budha. I don't see them comparing these guys to people from their family line.
I thought the Orishas were just manifestations of Olodumare. Is this correct? Does this mean when we offer Oya, for example, kola nuts or Akara, does that mean we are really offering Olodumare? I was taught that Olodumare is distant from us and do not engage in our affairs, so how do we really pray to Olodumare if this is incorrect?
Olodumare does not need orisha to reach you or for you to reach him. You have direct contact with olodumare the Creator of heavens earth and all that fills it. No intermediaries needed. Just pray
Tnx a lot from bringing Baba to clarified this. This one of my biggest issue when it comes to religion. why worshipping Orisa, Jesus and so on when we all know they were human being like us. Instead of that I worship the Almighty God (Eledumare) cos if our Traditional religion people doing the right thing no other religion people will label them Elebo. Elebo means people equating other living things that Almighty God created as the same as God!!!!!
@@dabo004 In Odu Ifa Eledumare makes ebo on behalf of his creatures. If you insist that Ebo is Worship then I ask you: Who was Eledumare worshiping when Eledumare made ebo. There is so much conflation and confusion when people bring foreign religious concepts into our traditions. Even calling Eledumare God is problematic because there are significant differences in the understanding of God from Eledumare. In the bible God (yahweh or whatever) receives sacrifices, holocaust offerings, first fruits etc. Nowhere do you hear that anyone anywhere makes ebo to Eledumare. The concept is ridiculous to Yoruba.
@@dabo004 These are very good questions you are now asking. I do not recall the exact ese Odu, but when I locate it I'll post it here. In this ese odu Eledumare makes ebo on behalf of Eledumare's daughter, Emi omo Eledumare, omo ateni legelege f'ori sagbeji omi. So to you question, 'how can Eledumare make Ebo?'. First what is ebo? Is it an act of worship? Obviously not otherwise Eledumare couldn't be doing it. I'm not comfortable with the use of 'god' to refer to Eledumare. It is a germanic word that carries connotations have nothing to do with Yoruba belief. Who is the Lord of Ebo? There is an entity in Ifa called Olubobotiribo Baba Ebo. Olubobotiribo is the lord of Ebo. This is a synonym for the Mouth. 'Kini a nbo n'ife. Enu won'. What do we make ebo to in Ife, Their mouths. So you see that Eledumare cannot be the recipient of Ebo, which creature can claim to feed its creator. It is the other way round. Eledumare feeds, nurture and sustains us.
Why some are killing human beings for the rituals including some obas through oro, and after all this, JESUS lay HIS life for us, why can't we ask GOD all what we need through our LORD JESUS, if they are killing rams for people to eat, as Father Abraham did, this is acceptable but not in another wicked ways, well done if you are among of the faithful
He was asked how do you had Ifa knowledge but Baba was talking about church 😂. Baba doesn't have full knowledge about Ifa that's a fact. If he does he should recite just 3 different odu for us.
You fit enter market soon 😂. Take care of your mental health and reach out to your family for assistance before it's too late. Saying nonsense eventually leads to madness 😂😂😂
Watch the full interview from this Playlist Link: Baba Peter Fatomilola: th-cam.com/play/PLuCoG7L7T66DJ_F9w3GMEJvmUwCNFtd2u.html
He is amazing
OLODUMARE BLESS baba and preserve his life more... This is one of the few ones who understands..orisha kan ole GNANI la, OLODUMARE NIKAN LOTO KA SÌN KASI BO
Please can we get a hour long interview from Baba
Watch the interview playlist here: Baba Peter Fatomilola: th-cam.com/play/PLuCoG7L7T66DJ_F9w3GMEJvmUwCNFtd2u.html
Thank you 🙏
Ok, again I’m a new Isese devotee, so I’m still learning…. I thought that we offer sacrifice or appease Esu so that he can carry our prayers to Olodumare. Maybe appeasement and sacrifice are two different things?
You're correct 💯
@@GetaBetterLifeTV Thanks for another great video Brother Koladè
@JJ-wv3wy oh wow 😮
@JJ-wv3wy we have our doctrine in yoruba isese and there is nothing questionable. First thing you need to know is that ifa is for yoruba people but other people are welcome, we dont do things how it's done in South Africa. We do things based on how orunmila instructed us and not what we think is right. The right way is how our ancestors did it . We have orishas for the society and some families have their own orisha. You are allowed to appease either one, no one is forcing one or the other on you since only Olodumare is supreme however, we do have orishas in ifa we make sacrifices to and these are people who stood out in community and not just our family. People we believe can intercede for us before Olodmare. They are levels above your family orisha because they were sent to us a yorubas by olodumare and not just to a particular family. If you want to appease your family orisha, so be it but communal orishas are superior to family ones. That's why we have orisha akunlebo which is also superior to orisha adurobo. What you are describing is close to egungun practise that focuses more on direct ancestors worship, we have that as well but it's different in ifa which focuses on communal orisha and which is considered superior. You can't compare people who helped a whole tribe to someone who's just from your family line, just because they're from your family line doesn't mean they did anything great in this world but you are allowed to specially revere your direct ancestors if you like. Just remember you can't compare them to Sango, Ogun, Orunmila and Co. It's all about levels and its in every religion. Christians revere Jesus, Muslims revere Mohammed, Buddhist revere Budha. I don't see them comparing these guys to people from their family line.
@@olasenilampejo5274 Well said. 💯
I thought the Orishas were just manifestations of Olodumare. Is this correct? Does this mean when we offer Oya, for example, kola nuts or Akara, does that mean we are really offering Olodumare? I was taught that Olodumare is distant from us and do not engage in our affairs, so how do we really pray to Olodumare if this is incorrect?
Olodumare is the Grand authority.
Olodumare does not need orisha to reach you or for you to reach him. You have direct contact with olodumare the Creator of heavens earth and all that fills it. No intermediaries needed. Just pray
Great video well said
Tnx a lot from bringing Baba to clarified this. This one of my biggest issue when it comes to religion. why worshipping Orisa, Jesus and so on when we all know they were human being like us. Instead of that I worship the Almighty God (Eledumare) cos if our Traditional religion people doing the right thing no other religion people will label them Elebo. Elebo means people equating other living things that Almighty God created as the same as God!!!!!
If ebo is really an act of worship such as you think it is then who was Eledumare worshiping when Eledumare made ebo.
@@PermanentWater Eledumare is God in English!!!!!
@@dabo004 In Odu Ifa Eledumare makes ebo on behalf of his creatures. If you insist that Ebo is Worship then I ask you: Who was Eledumare worshiping when Eledumare made ebo. There is so much conflation and confusion when people bring foreign religious concepts into our traditions.
Even calling Eledumare God is problematic because there are significant differences in the understanding of God from Eledumare. In the bible God (yahweh or whatever) receives sacrifices, holocaust offerings, first fruits etc. Nowhere do you hear that anyone anywhere makes ebo to Eledumare. The concept is ridiculous to Yoruba.
@@PermanentWater how can Eledumare makes Ebo? is Eledumare different from Olorun or God?
@@dabo004 These are very good questions you are now asking. I do not recall the exact ese Odu, but when I locate it I'll post it here. In this ese odu Eledumare makes ebo on behalf of Eledumare's daughter, Emi omo Eledumare, omo ateni legelege f'ori sagbeji omi.
So to you question, 'how can Eledumare make Ebo?'. First what is ebo? Is it an act of worship? Obviously not otherwise Eledumare couldn't be doing it. I'm not comfortable with the use of 'god' to refer to Eledumare. It is a germanic word that carries connotations have nothing to do with Yoruba belief.
Who is the Lord of Ebo? There is an entity in Ifa called Olubobotiribo Baba Ebo. Olubobotiribo is the lord of Ebo. This is a synonym for the Mouth. 'Kini a nbo n'ife. Enu won'. What do we make ebo to in Ife, Their mouths. So you see that Eledumare cannot be the recipient of Ebo, which creature can claim to feed its creator. It is the other way round. Eledumare feeds, nurture and sustains us.
Très intéressant
Long life baba
How can someone get his number?
correct man
I suggest they put this on tv for better education of people
Nah! This is no education but sheer mendacity of monumental proportions
Why some are killing human beings for the rituals including some obas through oro, and after all this, JESUS lay HIS life for us, why can't we ask GOD all what we need through our LORD JESUS, if they are killing rams for people to eat, as Father Abraham did, this is acceptable but not in another wicked ways, well done if you are among of the faithful
Jews still make sacrifice amd cleanse themselves with a 🐔
Are you saying that after killing Jesus ‘for rituals’ don’t need to kill anymore? But you eat everyday despite Jesus’ ritual murder.
Ori LA Ba Bo Ka fi Orisha Sile
He was asked how do you had Ifa knowledge but Baba was talking about church 😂. Baba doesn't have full knowledge about Ifa that's a fact. If he does he should recite just 3 different odu for us.
Na Yoruba movie cuz most of all this thou
Use baba Araba Ifakolade as an example he always use IFA recite to back all his words. Again baba Peter isn't a babalawo. Peace ✌️🏿
Baba fatomilola have deep knowledge of ifa, go and watch one of his interviews
orunmila is lucifa, but he called himself orunmila for the yorubas, he calls himself another name. orunmila is a fallen angel (lucifa).
You were there abi?
You fit enter market soon 😂. Take care of your mental health and reach out to your family for assistance before it's too late. Saying nonsense eventually leads to madness 😂😂😂
@@olasenilampejo5274😂😂😂