REBELLIOUS Wives Deserve to be BEATEN?? What the Quran ACTUALLY Says
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- Does "nushūz" in Quran 4:34 really refer to wifely rebellion? We continue our analysis and breakdown of the Quran's most controversial verse, the so-called "wife beating verse."
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You have no idea how many people on the brink of leaving islam, because of the hijacked version of islam akh bros promote, will finally realize that Islam is not monopoly of traditionalists!
thank you for giving such logically and rationally sound explanation for those of us who can't live with hypocrisy of criticizing "ppl of the book" for being blind sheeps and then being a sheep themselves!
Thank you
Hi, I've heard Khaled Abou El Fadl explaining that the addressee in this ayah is not the husband, but the community. The surrounding ayat point to that. I don't think this takes away from your reading of nushuz. He's got a video on TH-cam about it.
Oh I see you mention that in the next video. Fadl doesn't mention the hadith. He argues from an textual perspective.
Thank you so much Brother. Allah blessings on you bro
Excellent
Perfectly explained like always 🙏🏻👌🏻
Thanks a lot 😊
For me, Dr. Shabir Ally's opinion makes more sense. He says that the second part of verse 34 is connected with first part of verse 35 and in both of these verses, the person who is adressed and commanded is not the husband but the Qadhi.. That is.... If you fear Nushuz, do this...... and if you fear breach between the two, do that.... The sentence is connected by the use of letter "wau" and as such, if verse 35 is not talking to the husband rather it is talking to the community, the second part of verse 34 is also talking to the community...
He said that wahjuruhuna fil mazaje, if literally translated means, take them out from their place of sleep and not necessarily separate their beds from their husbands.. In fact, word " majazi" is also used in verse 3:154 and there, I have seen a number of translations, translating it as "place of death".
It’s possible.
The verb "daraba" is really versatile and can also mean (especially in that context) "stay away" or "turn away" from her, which makes sense, since the very next verse talks about trying to reconcile and another one says there should be love and kindness in the couple. This couldn't be the case with one of the spouse hitting the other.
Thank u! Qiyaama is soon as our scholars have let us down to interpret the quran correctly.This is the correct interpretation
What do you think about Ahmed Ali's translation of the "striking" verse?
"As for women you feel are averse, talk to them suasively; then leave them alone in bed (without molesting them) and go to bed with them (when they are willing). If they open out to you, do not seek an excuse for blaming them. Surely God is sublime and great." (Source: Al-Qur'an: A Contemporary Translation, Princeton University Press, 1988: 78-79)
Ahmed Ali’s explanatory note on his translation of this verse: “For the three words fa'izu, wahjaru, and wadribu in the original, translated here 'talk to them suasively,' 'leave them alone (in bed - fi'l-madage'),' and 'have intercourse', respectively, see Raghib, Lisan al-'Arab, and Zamakhsari. Raghib in his Al-Mufridat fi Gharib al-Qur'an gives the meanings of these words with special reference to this verse. Fa-'izu, he says, means to 'to talk to them so persuasively as to melt their hearts.' (See also v.63 of this Surah where it has been used in a similar sense.) Hajara, he says, means to separate body from body, and points out that the expression wahjaru hunna metaphorically means to refrain from touching or molesting them. Zamakhshari is more explicit in his Kshshaf when he says, 'do not get inside their blankets.' Raghib points out that daraba metaphorically means to have intercourse, and quotes the expression darab al-fahl an-naqah, 'the stud camel covered the she-camel,' which is also quoted by Lisan al-'Arab. It cannot be taken here to mean 'to strike them (women).'
Do you have a video explaining Surah 65:4 of the Quran child divorce?
Here you go, sir:
th-cam.com/video/ZZK6AVsMi2g/w-d-xo.html
please fix the subtitle... I read nushuz as new shoes the whole time :(
Can you imagine hard of hearing person being so confused . Good point 👍
Our scholars have purposely left out to teach nushooz of the husband so that they can teach women must obey for anything and everything.
Assalamualaikum Dr. Javad
Pls also make video on
Islamic Philosophy
It’s planned.
This seemed sort of apologetics to me, but i love your content generally
The procedure of Nushuz in striking women has no relation in attributing to a biological factor while for the men in 4:128 is about making peace subjecting to human imperfection.
Whether assault however light it can be, the striking is symbolic of men’s superiority as it does not change the fact of a woman getting pregnant by another man to ensure a child will be falsely attributed to husband. Leaving marital bed will.
Clearly, one can see the inequality here.
Dr. Javad, you didn't talk about what strikes in this verse means, does it mean that you beat her to death or broke her arms and so on. Or what?
Why would the husband or allah want a woman with broken limbs and injuries?
@ImpactfulScholar Salam alaikom brother. I disagree that the verse talks about striking your wife but in reality it says leave her and I can explain for you if you join my live streams every Saturdays 7pm CET. Please we can talk about many great topics that you definitely will find them interesting.
The ultiamte question of the word daraba (hitting) has not been explained tho. So what does this mean ?
The verb "daraba" is really versatile and can also mean (especially in that context) "stay away" or "turn away" from her, which makes sense, since the very next verse talks about trying to reconcile and another one says there should be love and kindness in the couple. This couldn't be the case with one of the spouse hitting the other.
@CaptainLysandra u fortunately that explanation and analysis doesn't make much sense to me. I also think that this part has Intentionally been left out, because there isn't much to discuss imo. I'm not for hitting someone, but the root of the word is so obvious to deny it. Same with wine/alcohol.
If a woman fears the same infidelity from the muslim man, can she do the same, or what options does she have?
The four imams have implied that she can poison him. Before muslims cry over verses which at first glance are clearly the exact opposite of the sunnah, they should try actually reading some of their own history. Wives everywhere murdered their husbands all the time until as late at the 1970s. These verses are really not that big of a deal if you are educated. It's not a coincidence that all the famous (frequently wealthy) scholars are very good to their own wives, while telling the rest of us to suffer. It is plain as day that they have an agenda.
alhamdulillah
A different perspective: th-cam.com/video/BseSCH-m310/w-d-xo.html
Javad has feared this from his wife many times. She is his first cousin too. This is why he is so controlling with her
Hamzah, jealousy is a green-eyed monster.
This video does not present the complete picture of the difference in the remedial instruction for nushuz exhibited by the husband versus the wife.
Quran 4:34 and 4:128 not only are different in the "procedures" or remedial instruction, but there is a clear notion of dominance of one party over the other in verse 4.34. In verse 4:128, however, the procedure is to seek fair settlement which lacks the notion of dominance of either party.
Also need to point out that video starts with David Wood expressing his disagreement with verse 4:34. Ok, it would make sense if it was an *honest* critic, and we are discussing a response to honorable critics of Islam, but of all people, David Wood?! Really? Are we setting the bar that low?
(My personal opinion) nushuz in the marital context generally refers to abuse of rights across established responsibilities between husband and wife. The argument in this video reduces the whole problem of nushuz down to sexual infidelity, and neglecting everything else that goes with a marriage.
In the end, in general, the wife is at the mercy of the husband's obedience to Allah and subsequent compassion, kindness and her protection, versus his rebellion against Allah and subsequent physical and/or emotional abuse, and abandonment.
On the other hand, the husband in general stands between the wife's obedience to Allah and her subsequent surrender of her femininity to him, versus her rebellion against Allah and subsequent emotional abuse.
We are wasting our valuable energies and time on the obvious nature of and relationship between the masculine and feminine.
We should start talking about the real evil that plagues both males and females: narcissism.
So you are saying if you know a woman has been an adulterer therefore a man now has permission to assault the wife. Really !! I was expecting the video to go down the line of daraba not being to beat but to separate
Your are saying a Man should beat his wife because he is afraid she might cheat.
No. I am certainly not.
Did you really listen???
You didnt watch the video
Did not even watch the full video. Honest question, are you trolling or are you being genuine?
Can the wife do the same to the husband? I dont think so. Why is women always get the worst side of the bargain: islam’s heaven makes the wife a long suffering fool while her husband enjoys 72 hooris eternally… come to Jesus, who loved us so much that he died for us. Jesus is Lord!
Trying to make Islam more palatable 😂
I wonder if any Muslims can explain how a town let alone a city called *Mecca could exist in the Hijaz in the 6th and 7th Century’s with;
1. Very little water (if any)
2. No vegetation
3. No crops
4. No fruit
5. No Animals
6. No raw materials
A. To make shelters etc.
B. To make weapons of war
How did they drink?
How did they eat?
How did they produce arms for war?
Especially as Mecca wasn’t on or anywhere near any trade route, in fact there’s a mountain range between Mecca and the trade route
No surrounding Kingdoms had heard of it, which is strange as Muslims claim it to be the oldest city in the World!
It’s not on any historical map until 900!
*The Mohammad of Islam was supposedly born in Mecca in 570, supposedly lived there for most of his life, supposedly died in Medina in 632
What's laughable is your conspiracy theory that Mecca did not exist... something no real academic expert of Islamic Studies or historian of early Islam would take seriously.
@@DrJavadTHashmi
You are mistaken, Historians, Islamic scholars and archaeologists agree that Mecca didn't exist in the 6th and 7th Centuries, and anyone with some common sense would know that
No (or very little) water
No vegetation
No livestock
No Fruit
No raw materials
Not on any trade route, a mountain range separated Mecca from the trade route
No one had ever heard of a Mecca in the Hijaz in the 6th and 7th Centuries, which is frankly bizarre, considering Muslims claim it's the oldest city in the World, which is of course utter nonsense
It isn't on any historical map until 900
An Aqueduct had to be built in the 9th century to supply water for the few pilgrims that went there
EVEN THE VARIOUS QURANS DON'T DESECRIBE MECCA!!!
@@simonhengle8316 This idea is considered fringe in the mainstream academy (i.e. by experts in the field).
@@DrJavadTHashmi
Far from it
Provide 7th Century Historical evidence for the following 👍
1. Provide 7th Century historical evidence for even a town or a village called Mecca in the Hijaz in the 6th and 7th Century.
2. Provide
A. Artefacts, archeological and historical evidence for a Mohammad of Islam in Mecca or Medina in the 7th Century
B. A 7th Century Islamic Quran with a 114 Surahs which matches the one of the current Qurans
3. Provide Archaeological evidence for the battle of the Trench.
4. Provide 7th Century Evidence for Jews in the area of Mecca and Medina
5. Explain why the Mecca in the Hijaz was not on any map until 900
6. Explain why there are no 7th Century records of Mecca in the surrounding Kingdoms
7. Explain why the Arab coins from the 640’s onwards had Christian symbols on them
8. Explain why there is no historical evidence for the so called rightly guided caliph called Uthman
Can the woman beat her husband if she fears rebellion? Great example of the Miracle of Reinterpretation! Nice try but you need more duct tape to fix the messed of Koran.
You obviously didn’t watch the video. Or you have comprehension issues.
Ignore the guy, he volunteers to get beaten up by David Wood.
The Quran was created as a clear guidance to humanity. Beating your wife means not beating your wife. Does that make sense?
@@chrisballen7851 it is actually pretty clear what he says. It would have been very common for men to beat up women. So creating this many layers in an extreme situation such as infidelity is pretty big. But sons of crusading psychos won’t get it.
@@Tskyn We understand what that Quran and what the Hadiths say. No need to reinterpret, wife beaters.
Repent and believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is the way, the truth, and the life.
Only a few find the way, the Jesus they speak about in their book is not the Christ. I'm convinced that Gabriel was actually a fallen angel masquerading as a angel of light
i better worship Satan then worship a man lol.
Submit your will to God. Heed the message. Stop worshiping the messenger.