As long as they have a crappy oline and outdated protection scheme EVERY Qb will be risking injury. So it’s on Jed to push for oline if they want their qb to succeed here.
Grant we should have both Mason and CMC on the field together. Put CMC out in the slot, he is one of our best receivers and Mason in RB position. We will have 2 of our best offensive weapons on the field at the same time. Not every play but mix them both in like this.
To Kyles defense Purdy was number 4 on the depth chart rookie year and they cut Sudfield after guaranteeing him a few million. He saw something in Purdy to keep him around
Doesnt matter. Shanahan is gonna make cmc run all day. No mason. Campbell is gonna start on defense. Sorenson sucks on defensive cosching. Shanahan is still stubborn.
Hold on now, He is clearly better than Jimmy. However what more has he done then Jimmy? They both lost a Super Bowl and both made 2: NFC championship games.
I think our problem is we compare Brock to Jimmy. So through that lense of course Brock is worth 60+ cause he is that much better than Jimmy. If we compare him to the best QB's in the NFL who are gonna be around for the next 5-7 yrs minimal then if we as 49ers fans want to win the Super Bowl we need to draft or find someone else cause we are not winning with Brock. And for all of us please please stop with Brock is young and will get better narrative. He was a 4 yr college player (Essentially polished product) This is why he was able to come in and operate business as usual. But he is what he is which is mid and last I have now heard Grant - Ryan- Jessie - Coach who I all respect say Brock struggles to throw in the conditions which tells us all we need to know.
@@FrancescoMiceli-de6eiit is always an excuse for Brock! His fan club say loser mentality justifications with such pride! "He left the field with the lead" in the sb like that is the same thing as winning the sb! Smh
You guys acting like Brock is super injury prone like Jimmy G. or something,. He's had a couple injuries in what 3 years now? I know a bunch of Franchise QB's that have missed way more time with injuries in the last 3 years. I don't think he's got some reoccurring shoulder injury, I think it was just a one off injury, that occurred when he dove for the end zone, on that TD run vs Tampa, and probably landed on it hard.
@ for not being realistic about his talent and the teams success with his terrible play. He was being carried by the best running game in the league and 6 all pros. Now you see the real version losing games and throwing picks. People were more of a Brock fan than Niners..
hes got an arem, come on! hes done enough to show he is the man. shanahan is holding him back. look at the vikings. darnold was purdys back up last yr darnold is top 10 QBs this season.. Go figure.. i betcha anything hes allowed to call audibles just like every NFL QB.. u know whos QBs are NOT allowed to call audibles at the line? take a guess. ive been knowing this for several yrs.. its shanny version of an audible. hot route !😂😂 just gives him a different receiver option does not actually change the play.. fuck shanahan
@realjeezyjack ??? We're you good with trading 3 firsts for a QB from division 2 with like 26 starts and then Kyle saying "We don't develop QB's" you some kind of dummy or what?
Grant you have to ask two part open ended questions. First, what extent is Brock’s injury affecting his throwing? Second, if he does start, what’s limitations does he have?
The Niners do need to beef up their offensive line. If I was Brock I would be happy with a deal that involved a beefed up OL with a more moderate deal for him. Maybe Brock wouldn’t have these injuries if KS would prioritize his protection and he didn’t have to scramble so much to keep the offense on the field!
Also, to get deeper answers you have to team up with another journalist for a four part question. Two from you and two follow up from them. That’s how we get answers
Jimmy G lead THIRTEEN 4th quarter comebacks.... many in big games. Those wins are PURELY Jimmy adlibbing, because KYLE cannot adjust in game. Jimmy WAS the true Leader of the team from 2017-2022 (until injury). JIMMY was the player that the team believed let them play '49ers Football' as Juice exclaimed upon Jimmy's return to thew line up. Jimmy is also the player that Kyle disempowered, and spent years trying to replace. In 2017 they were LOSERS....until Jimmy stepped on the field. In 2019, they were picked to be the WORST team in the Division.... The BONDING that the team did in emerging from a dark place in Franchise History is something that KYLE SHANAHAN cannot understand. It has no bearing on his offensive system. Kyle is not a leader of men, nor will he ever be.... he is a child of privilege and an intellectual egoist
GC!! I have opinion, from being part of teams, multiple sports, in hs, and one season college, then military, my experience tells me that sometimes, the team/side with better players + play calling “expertise” will win. Mostly. But like in KS highest stakes games, he reached each one, from having better team, to carry out his stubborn ego driven plan, but when adversity hits, and everyone is looking to the leader, to LEAD, by example, team crumbles when “leader” is in over his head, or he becomes rattled. He prefers to be face of 49er Franchise it seems, but words fall on deaf ears. Maybe Jimmy G was the closest thjng to team having someone to rally around, but ks cut his nuts off, & ruined whatever confidence he had. Purdy has been to young and new to take that role. And again, nut cuts. Shanahan seems to stubborn, and petty. Remember how important it was 2019 vs Washington? Niners barely won. Although was down pour. He seems checked out=so does team… coasting along. Harbaugh/Chargers will win super bowl before KS…. No surprise McVey beat him to it. Rather than win, by putting best players, whoever has “hot hand”, or momentum, etc…. He rather force square into a circle. Harbaugh, has self confidence, to allow his team to grow, become tight nit, look out for each other…. So when shit hits fan, adversity hits Chargers, remember all BS Michigan overcome last year? Thennnnnnnn check out 2024 SF 49ers, may be older, with many injuries, but still have won and know how to win, but instead, one of the “captains “ was on sideline choking a teammate! “Do as I say, not as I do” Seems to be the overall feeling of this years team. Looks like, Have a lot of guys that have collected big $$$, and now on cruise control, and without having the coach/player to look to for example, in hard times, we just see bunch of very good/talented players, and not seeing a “ride or die” team. Woul not be surprised, to see Niners get smoked at least 3 more times before season ending
Why all the talk about the weather and Purdy. Do people forget he played college in Iowa.... You know where it rains, gets cold, snows & sometimes does all three in the same game. If he plays, he's not going to be affected any more or less then Allen who played at Wyoming in college. These TH-cam personalities that somehow have press credentials have no idea (and neither do I) what it's like to play at the NCAA or the NFL level in "bad" weather.
Have fun rooting for .500 team the next 10 years. Payed a bunch of overrated old guys big time contracts to run it back one more year, imploded, meanwhile the other teams just got better. Overrated players are and have been the prob the whole time, not Kyle.
They have the mobile qb on the roster Joshua dobbs idiot shananot won’t use him!!! They paying him $2.5mils to sit!! Plus idiot Kyle season grade is an F+
First 20 minutes I disagree with just about everything. Purdy needs an oline he has under two seconds to throw the ball. He has been the only reason why we have ANY wins this season. His injuries were off awful protection too
Kyle shannahan is to blame for abandoning his running backs by overusing cmc shen hes still not 100 percent, ...is also to blame for depending on brendel who has been atrocious as a blocker instead of the other guy who's better, ...is also to blame for depending on deebo who is already washed although he's still good as a punt returner,..... Shannahan is to blame for not using and also abandoning players who are very good and not using them.... I've had enough of this arrogant blind stubborn pos!
This year they have just had to many injuries at multiple positions. Inconsistent lineups, inconsistent play. Team is tired is visibly showing in play. Some years things just don’t go your way, that’s this year. Add in 2nd toughest schedule and least amount of rest in league. Just not the year.
Probably not ready yet but they have the third string still but maybe have him ready for the following week or sign NY Giants ex QB or grab Aaron Rodgers why not or just wait until for a rookie next coming draft.
You don’t play Dobbs at QB bec the dude is 3-11 as a starter. So I don’t want to hear Dobbs over Allen. He’s a 3rd string QB . Allen reads field better than Dobbs, if your looking at more consistent player
@ ok as I see Brock lover the last game he was fine we seen bosa go out what play did Brock get hurt on and didn’t go to the tent to get checked out please tell me the play
First of all ryan Hensley isn't even in the top 5 best niner podcasters, second you aren't getting any credit for being down on Kyle first. You have been saying fire Kyle for years while they were winning a bunch of games. Just cause they are struggling now doesn't mean you need to pat yourself on the back.
Theirs not a lot of "Talent" on this team that's stupid too say theirs a lot of old "has been names" and yes u can age over night in the NFL especially when you've had the kinda deep playoff runs this teams had quit acting stupid Grant this team has zero speed in the arsenall
I don’t know if you’ve heard but the Niners picked up this guy a few years back named Jordan Mason. He doesn’t get much TV time so I understand the confusion.
@@brandonpankratz1200 YOU’RE right Brandon, don’t play the leagues 5th leading rusher for more than a snap a game. Can you remind me of the fatigue you mention regarding JM following the bye? I don’t have any recollection.
Lmao miss me with all this emotional player BS this core had their chances now their old and its time too rebuild pretty simple concept been around forever all this over emotional theories too make Kyle look bad is pathetic wouldn't expect anything less from Grant tho
Lmao miss me with all this emotional player BS this core had their chances now their old and its time too rebuild pretty simple concept been around forever all this over emotional theories too make Kyle look bad is pathetic wouldn't expect anything less from Grant tho
The REAL problem is that NO one holds Jed & Kyle & Lynch accountable especially Jed therefore they are faithful to insanity SMDH
Lynch does everything Kyle wants him to do. He got hired cause of kyle
Or purdy. He having a bad a year
@@MistaAmazin We will extend PURDY and Kyle Shanahan will stay.
We are not going to be competing for a bit.
@@FrancescoMiceli-de6einope you sure won’t be 😂
@@DeeGorb Half our fanbase is extremely sensitive,
I want a "Stud QB"
The first QB I watched was Steve Young and that's my standard.
Gentlemen, thank you for being voices of reason.
As long as they have a crappy oline and outdated protection scheme EVERY Qb will be risking injury.
So it’s on Jed to push for oline if they want their qb to succeed here.
It's not on Jed to push for Oline directly, but it's on him to get rid of the guys in charge of making the picks and hire guys that care about oline.
@ it’s sort of is, he’s the guy writing the checks…and Brock about to get the biggest check on the team.
Grant we should have both Mason and CMC on the field together. Put CMC out in the slot, he is one of our best receivers and Mason in RB position. We will have 2 of our best offensive weapons on the field at the same time. Not every play but mix them both in like this.
The goat G HENS!
Looking forward to your new channel G!
To Kyles defense Purdy was number 4 on the depth chart rookie year and they cut Sudfield after guaranteeing him a few million. He saw something in Purdy to keep him around
Crazy that Kyle tried to bury Mason all this time but still might lose him in free agency.
Just keeping him healthy for his next team, how considerate from Lyle.
Love your Lake Chabot golf hat Grant, its where I learned how to play golf back in 1973.
Love the show y’all are great 🔥
If you faded every pick ryan g made on the ravens.... You rich
Good shit guys 🍻
Brocks not the problem guys...look at how this teams playing..you can't blame him for our defense and special teams...keep it 100%
That’s ur opinion
YES and buckle up boyz I got us winning this one! 💵💵💵🤯⚡💥💥🏈🦬
Doesnt matter. Shanahan is gonna make cmc run all day. No mason. Campbell is gonna start on defense. Sorenson sucks on defensive cosching. Shanahan is still stubborn.
Yep no adjustments are coming.
I would take cousins in a heart beat. Waaay better than Brock or any options we have… but a young qb in ❤draft is nice too
Hold on now,
He is clearly better than Jimmy.
However what more has he done then Jimmy?
They both lost a Super Bowl and both made 2: NFC championship games.
I think our problem is we compare Brock to Jimmy.
So through that lense of course Brock is worth 60+ cause he is that much better than Jimmy.
If we compare him to the best QB's in the NFL who are gonna be around for the next 5-7 yrs minimal then if we as 49ers fans want to win the Super Bowl we need to draft or find someone else cause we are not winning with Brock.
And for all of us please please stop with Brock is young and will get better narrative.
He was a 4 yr college player (Essentially polished product)
This is why he was able to come in and operate business as usual.
But he is what he is which is mid and last I have now heard Grant - Ryan- Jessie - Coach who I all respect say Brock struggles to throw in the conditions which tells us all we need to know.
@@FrancescoMiceli-de6eiit’s always refreshing to see unbiased niner fans, your opinion will not go unnoticed
@@FrancescoMiceli-de6eiit is always an excuse for Brock! His fan club say loser mentality justifications with such pride! "He left the field with the lead" in the sb like that is the same thing as winning the sb! Smh
@@rldebrothe whole niners team are losers! Can’t keep a lead to save their life
I been saying Purdy fans are losers 😂
Need Brock for sure if we have any chance
I agree with Ryan, this team seems out of it. The team sucks, no way around it!
Doesn’t matter the season is done.
You guys acting like Brock is super injury prone like Jimmy G. or something,. He's had a couple injuries in what 3 years now? I know a bunch of Franchise QB's that have missed way more time with injuries in the last 3 years. I don't think he's got some reoccurring shoulder injury, I think it was just a one off injury, that occurred when he dove for the end zone, on that TD run vs Tampa, and probably landed on it hard.
He's done bro
You Brock fans disgust me. Smh get over it. Yall were never Niner fans. We were right you were wrong lol 😂
@@NOMIDSCREWwtf? Never niner fans? For rooting and cheering for a qb’s success? 🧐
@ for not being realistic about his talent and the teams success with his terrible play. He was being carried by the best running game in the league and 6 all pros. Now you see the real version losing games and throwing picks. People were more of a Brock fan than Niners..
Brock cooked Debo cooked Cmac cooked Trent cooked Kyle cooked Defense cooked
The Ravens game last Christmas confirmed he's not the guy
We need to tank for Arch.
hes got an arem, come on! hes done enough to show he is the man. shanahan is holding him back. look at the vikings. darnold was purdys back up last yr darnold is top 10 QBs this season.. Go figure.. i betcha anything hes allowed to call audibles just like every NFL QB.. u know whos QBs are NOT allowed to call audibles at the line? take a guess. ive been knowing this for several yrs.. its shanny version of an audible. hot route !😂😂 just gives him a different receiver option does not actually change the play.. fuck shanahan
Lmao what a slow fan. The greatest of qbs have thrown 4 picks in a game plenty of times. I think y’all just salty trey lance was buns
@realjeezyjack ???
We're you good with trading 3 firsts for a QB from division 2 with like 26 starts and then Kyle saying "We don't develop QB's" you some kind of dummy or what?
@@FrancescoMiceli-de6ei arch won’t help this franchise anyway
Fuck Brock purdy he’s not my qb
Grant you have to ask two part open ended questions. First, what extent is Brock’s injury affecting his throwing? Second, if he does start, what’s limitations does he have?
The Niners do need to beef up their offensive line. If I was Brock I would be happy with a deal that involved a beefed up OL with a more moderate deal for him.
Maybe Brock wouldn’t have these injuries if KS would prioritize his protection and he didn’t have to scramble so much to keep the offense on the field!
Also, to get deeper answers you have to team up with another journalist for a four part question. Two from you and two follow up from them. That’s how we get answers
Jimmy G lead THIRTEEN 4th quarter comebacks.... many in big games. Those wins are PURELY Jimmy adlibbing, because KYLE cannot adjust in game. Jimmy WAS the true Leader of the team from 2017-2022 (until injury). JIMMY was the player that the team believed let them play '49ers Football' as Juice exclaimed upon Jimmy's return to thew line up. Jimmy is also the player that Kyle disempowered, and spent years trying to replace. In 2017 they were LOSERS....until Jimmy stepped on the field. In 2019, they were picked to be the WORST team in the Division....
The BONDING that the team did in emerging from a dark place in Franchise History is something that KYLE SHANAHAN cannot understand. It has no bearing on his offensive system. Kyle is not a leader of men, nor will he ever be.... he is a child of privilege and an intellectual egoist
This has to be middy g
GC!! I have opinion, from being part of teams, multiple sports, in hs, and one season college, then military, my experience tells me that sometimes, the team/side with better players + play calling “expertise” will win. Mostly. But like in KS highest stakes games, he reached each one, from having better team, to carry out his stubborn ego driven plan, but when adversity hits, and everyone is looking to the leader, to LEAD, by example, team crumbles when “leader” is in over his head, or he becomes rattled. He prefers to be face of 49er Franchise it seems, but words fall on deaf ears. Maybe Jimmy G was the closest thjng to team having someone to rally around, but ks cut his nuts off, & ruined whatever confidence he had. Purdy has been to young and new to take that role. And again, nut cuts. Shanahan seems to stubborn, and petty. Remember how important it was 2019 vs Washington? Niners barely won. Although was down pour. He seems checked out=so does team… coasting along.
Harbaugh/Chargers will win super bowl before KS….
No surprise McVey beat him to it. Rather than win, by putting best players, whoever has “hot hand”, or momentum, etc…. He rather force square into a circle.
Harbaugh, has self confidence, to allow his team to grow, become tight nit, look out for each other….
So when shit hits fan, adversity hits Chargers, remember all BS Michigan overcome last year?
Thennnnnnnn check out 2024 SF 49ers, may be older, with many injuries, but still have won and know how to win, but instead, one of the “captains “ was on sideline choking a teammate!
“Do as I say, not as I do”
Seems to be the overall feeling of this years team.
Looks like, Have a lot of guys that have collected big $$$, and now on cruise control, and without having the coach/player to look to for example, in hard times, we just see bunch of very good/talented players, and not seeing a “ride or die” team.
Woul not be surprised, to see Niners get smoked at least 3 more times before season ending
Cohn rules
If you draft a QB, Kyle won’t play him until year 2 or 3 at best.
He's been injured less than your favorite quarterback
Rest Dre lets look for next year
Why all the talk about the weather and Purdy. Do people forget he played college in Iowa.... You know where it rains, gets cold, snows & sometimes does all three in the same game. If he plays, he's not going to be affected any more or less then Allen who played at Wyoming in college. These TH-cam personalities that somehow have press credentials have no idea (and neither do I) what it's like to play at the NCAA or the NFL level in "bad" weather.
As long as Kyle is there, the 49ers will NEVER prioritize Oline!!
Have fun rooting for .500 team the next 10 years. Payed a bunch of overrated old guys big time contracts to run it back one more year, imploded, meanwhile the other teams just got better. Overrated players are and have been the prob the whole time, not Kyle.
We should be 8-3 even with the hurt players…..
If Purdy hurt is ok , Knowing the Niners he may get $80 millions a year lol 😂
It’s time to get a first round OL. And, a second round QB for depth. Brock’s health is an issue going forward.
time to replace the coach and the mortgage guy, they've been here more than a year..
As long as Kyle is an HC, I can't believe that any QB would like to play for him,
It's as clear as day CMC is not the same player. But Kyle just keeps looking the other way ignoring it.
They have the mobile qb on the roster Joshua dobbs idiot shananot won’t use him!!! They paying him $2.5mils to sit!! Plus idiot Kyle season grade is an F+
Gotta pay Brock $$$...Nothing out there better than him...Gotta pay a qb anyway...Duhh...
He’s absolutely 🗑️ you Brock fans have about 2 more months of this BS till we cut em!!
Chiefs have 3 games in like 10 days coming up and had a week 6 bye and still don’t complain half as much as the niners do about their schedule….
Brock got small hands. He's not playing in that weather
First 20 minutes I disagree with just about everything. Purdy needs an oline he has under two seconds to throw the ball. He has been the only reason why we have ANY wins this season. His injuries were off awful protection too
Pay The Man
At this point who cares. Brimmy Purdoppolo will be a backup somewhere after Kyle is fired for giving him 60 million next season to go 6-11.
Get this kid and offensive line...no QB can succeed with this O line...
Ryan literally misses every pick for MNF!😂😂😂
Kyle shannahan is to blame for abandoning his running backs by overusing cmc shen hes still not 100 percent, ...is also to blame for depending on brendel who has been atrocious as a blocker instead of the other guy who's better, ...is also to blame for depending on deebo who is already washed although he's still good as a punt returner,..... Shannahan is to blame for not using and also abandoning players who are very good and not using them.... I've had enough of this arrogant blind stubborn pos!
Fire Shanihan
Fire Kyle
This year they have just had to many injuries at multiple positions. Inconsistent lineups, inconsistent play. Team is tired is visibly showing in play. Some years things just don’t go your way, that’s this year. Add in 2nd toughest schedule and least amount of rest in league. Just not the year.
Probably not ready yet but they have the third string still but maybe have him ready for the following week or sign NY Giants ex QB or grab Aaron Rodgers why not or just wait until for a rookie next coming draft.
You don’t play Dobbs at QB bec the dude is 3-11 as a starter. So I don’t want to hear Dobbs over Allen. He’s a 3rd string QB . Allen reads field better than Dobbs, if your looking at more consistent player
I'm not asking for Sorensen to be fired, but he should be demoted.
Lombardi is hilarious. I unfollowed his stupid gaslighting.
Lombardi is the biggest moron
He stays injured!!!!! Are you guys serious!!! Its called the line Stinks!!!!!
He will start week 13
Just lose the rest of the games and try to get a nice draft pick. Trade a couple pieces, have Brock sign for 35 mill a year and then go on another run
Why does Kyle refuse to play the best players available on the team? #Self-destructive
I think tanner mordecai might be better than brock long term
Omg look at Goffs Oline...
I been saying Brock’s trash af.
Real 49er fans have blocked you and subscribed to you 😂
Nah this ain't the best show is with Lowell
Offensive line sucks so put any qb in their not gonna win!
PURDY hurt why??? O-line been trash for past 3yrs
He will not that's a hot team that beat mahomes nope
Ur sitting on the couch telling people what an nfl players injury is, not knowing what you’re talking about
@ ok as I see Brock lover the last game he was fine we seen bosa go out what play did Brock get hurt on and didn’t go to the tent to get checked out please tell me the play
@ idk maybe one of the plays where he got sacked FIVE times 🤣 y’all expect a QB to stay healthy behind this crappy o line
@realjeezyjack really he played the whole game he not hurt he would have gotten out just like bosa smh
@ so then wouldn’t that make bosa the soft one? Lmao you’re just finding any way to hate on the dude
Porky Deebo is washed!
First of all ryan Hensley isn't even in the top 5 best niner podcasters, second you aren't getting any credit for being down on Kyle first. You have been saying fire Kyle for years while they were winning a bunch of games. Just cause they are struggling now doesn't mean you need to pat yourself on the back.
Shut up Lombardi
“You were right but I’m mad about it so it doesn’t count!!!!!”
Lombardi troll
Nice try woman.
Top is grant and Ryan. Not guy, krueg, coach or any other creator is must watch like grant and Cohn these two keep it the realist
Ryan h hensley is a guy high on coke, real goofball
Hensley is a 🤡
Theirs not a lot of "Talent" on this team that's stupid too say theirs a lot of old "has been names" and yes u can age over night in the NFL especially when you've had the kinda deep playoff runs this teams had quit acting stupid Grant this team has zero speed in the arsenall
I don’t know if you’ve heard but the Niners picked up this guy a few years back named Jordan Mason. He doesn’t get much TV time so I understand the confusion.
@itsjustjosh6514 yeah and he wore out after 7 weeks and now CMC is back amd he's not getting used thats not why your 5-6 but it's a cute thought
@@brandonpankratz1200 YOU’RE right Brandon, don’t play the leagues 5th leading rusher for more than a snap a game. Can you remind me of the fatigue you mention regarding JM following the bye? I don’t have any recollection.
Lmao miss me with all this emotional player BS this core had their chances now their old and its time too rebuild pretty simple concept been around forever all this over emotional theories too make Kyle look bad is pathetic wouldn't expect anything less from Grant tho
Lmao miss me with all this emotional player BS this core had their chances now their old and its time too rebuild pretty simple concept been around forever all this over emotional theories too make Kyle look bad is pathetic wouldn't expect anything less from Grant tho