Per a reddit post, by Alive2007, DrPootytang is a match leaving smurf. "Meaning that of their recent losses, DrPootytang left the match 63% of the time before the first minute elapsed. This is a player who has a consistent history of leaving games to artificially lower their MMR" (they left 59 of their last 94 lossses within the first minute)
Yeah, like losing in 5 minutes is legit, but there isn't anything you can do in the first minute to beat your opponent. This guy looks like a high-level player trolling in the lower leagues. There are zero gold level players that would get to 90+ workers before the 25-minute mark. He is without a doubt a smurf.
Good point, it's the planetaries that are imbalanced. jk, Terran absolutely needs them; they are very annoying though, along with tanks, and libs, and mines, and BCs, and ghosts, and banshees, oh and scans, and mules. I hate Terran
This really seems like it was submitted by the Terran. The way the submission compliments him as being "extremely talented" and the ridiculous smurf strategy gives the impression that the Blue player just wants to make fun of this silver player for tapping out. Based on the replay, I'm not sure that Red has the game understanding to be claiming that anything is IMBA... and I don't know what would incentivize him to submit a report while also saying that it "wasn't their best game." IDK, just feel bad for them.
Someone dared complaning about a strategy that nobody uses because it sucks. P.S: I found something truly imbalance, it is how much I missed iodis. Please slightly more iodis 🙏
I have a request or i hope you at least think about it. Your video titles are always easy to click on and interesting but in some cases it doesnt truly tell me what it is. Today i was hoping for an IMBA episode and saw this and found another video to watch from some tuber Winter or something. After watching way too much starcraft for a day i saw this video again and thought maybe i will watch it for the commentary and what do i find? IMBA episode. Unfair, I have missed amazing content from you because the titles while being clickable don't always tell me what it is. I had a similar problem with rank roulette, i missed an episode or two and thought it was just taking some time. Might have been my stupidity. Something to think about. Also i still love these minimalistic titles they have "the captain" written all over them so dont go changing them too much because i am too lazy to click on videos.
The highlight is making Harstem keep saying "drpootytang" so much. I would send my replays to Harstem everytime I play against someone with a funky name, just to listen to Harstem say it 20 times.
Is he? As he said he probably usually dies to any kind of early-ish attack. Altho if the Zerg is Silver and the Terran is actually gold then maybe he is
Look at the early game. Terran managed to micro the reaper, kept doing his build order, was ahead in workers, and started early 3rd CC. I'm not saying he's good, but definitely not silver. Maybe plat-diamond.
lurch reminds me a lot of my cousin when I played against him a while back. He never plays or watches SC2, but got motivated for some games at some point. I did fairly random "builds" that I never do (not really playing anymore aside from that) and still won almost all games without much effort, because I had a basic, badly executed plan and he did not. Understandably he just didn't have a clue what he was doing.
It's kinda amazing that this was known even with starcraft1 before brood war. When starcraft1 first came out there was one player who always instant expand, and he probably would had been the best player if people just let him do it, but people learned very fast to check if there is exp, and if he did exp they just rush him. Somehow this knowledge isn't there anymore for this guy.
3 vipers and GG... Or just a 200 army of roaches. Or a couple broodlords. Or even ultra... The terran is not doing that strat properly but the opponent is just way worse !
you need something tanky like Roaches they are not perfect for counter but its better then Hydra and Lings and you can make burrow for healing (they are cheap also). Do not attack directly on Terran CC or on mass Ravens instead use fast Zerlings for counter attack and harass since Ravens are slow if there are Hydras in your composition deploy Nydus in the back when you near opponent base for safety retrite. Fast morph into Hive for Viper's parasitic bomb and make some Muta or Curruptors for attack on mass Ravens from the side where opponent does not deployd turrets in the perfection u should stack them by micos cast and yeah they are IMBA
Yes, you can beat GM with any unit, as Beastyqt already proved. Such a huge skill difference from the top ones to the bottom ones in GM. If you get trolled like this replay, you got smurfed.
I play Z as offrace and yes, but depends on whether if there are another units, how many ravens are there, how many mutas you have... and overall, I'd say if you see something like mass libs(actual hell to deal with in big numbers without casters), banshees, pretty much any non-heavy air en masse, I would go for vipers for parasitic bombs.
Lurch is definitely doing the old vibe build. Which works against players who are genuinely silver, because it's silver. His execution was not all that great, but I think expecting heavy econ and scouting at silver is..... unrealistic. DrPootytang would absolutely lose to anybody advanced enough to scout and react. But honestly imo at silver, you're better off just practicing a particular build with zero regard to what your opponent is doing, because you get more out of practicing not getting supply blocked than you do out of practicing scouting and reacting at that level. Furthermore, if other commenters are telling the truth, DrPootyTang is a smurf who is playing at an artificially-lower league, using only this build. So I don't disagree with any of what Harstem is saying, but I also think it's not going to be helpful to lurch at this level. I think the actual best advice for lurch here is: you win some, you lose some. Keep practicing, and when you reach the point where your MMR is stable, the next thing to add is scouting, and subsequently greedier econ. Just my 2 cents
Terran actually looked Gold 1 like he said. That's 700 mmr above silver 2 so probably just matched after a long search time. Although people who quit many games to stay at lower mmr is also a problem, even in plat and diamond
@@markpayton3895 Base count doesn't equal macro lol. He had 45 workers and was floating minerals & gas for most of the game before that.... horrible macro.
No, corruptors counter this easily once you gave a decent amount of them. Or you could use viper, but not on this level. You could even use mass hydra for that but you need an economy, not a non-stop allin.
true at this level, but only on the Terran's side of the map. a few corruptors and you stop all the Ravan Harassment, then mass expand and build the 'OP' zerg units, ultras, lurkers, broods (OP at this level)
@@abyrvalg_ flying your corruptor or muta blob into like 3 rocket turrrets and a couple of mines to shoot at ravens and run away every time they put at least 5 autoturrets will not win this game. You will trade resouces and health for energy way too poorly. You could only hope to win if you jump between bases with butas and the opponent can only F2.
Hard counters are drones & Queens... i.e. learning the absolute basics of Zerg & not having less than 40 drones at 6 minutes 😂Then you can beat clowns like DrPootytang with almost anything.
Per a reddit post, by Alive2007, DrPootytang is a match leaving smurf. "Meaning that of their recent losses, DrPootytang left the match 63% of the time before the first minute elapsed. This is a player who has a consistent history of leaving games to artificially lower their MMR" (they left 59 of their last 94 lossses within the first minute)
Is there a website to check match history or something?
@@quanghungtran3581 SC2 pulse nephest
He only uses this build, which is easy to beat with early aggression. I would not be surprised that he just gets beat fast.
@@jeffpayne9655 sure but not within the first minute 60% of the time
Yeah, like losing in 5 minutes is legit, but there isn't anything you can do in the first minute to beat your opponent. This guy looks like a high-level player trolling in the lower leagues. There are zero gold level players that would get to 90+ workers before the 25-minute mark. He is without a doubt a smurf.
"I keep throwing small numbers of units against planetaries. The Ravens are imbalanced"
Good point, it's the planetaries that are imbalanced. jk, Terran absolutely needs them; they are very annoying though, along with tanks, and libs, and mines, and BCs, and ghosts, and banshees, oh and scans, and mules. I hate Terran
"I've tried nothing and it didn't work!" basically. hilariously painful game to watch lmao
3:16 this is the weirdest Protoss build order that I have ever seen
This really seems like it was submitted by the Terran. The way the submission compliments him as being "extremely talented" and the ridiculous smurf strategy gives the impression that the Blue player just wants to make fun of this silver player for tapping out. Based on the replay, I'm not sure that Red has the game understanding to be claiming that anything is IMBA... and I don't know what would incentivize him to submit a report while also saying that it "wasn't their best game." IDK, just feel bad for them.
the " I normally get rush and loose" was the best comment I ver seen in a while... wholesomeness as it best
The 10:07 attack move on his own hydra is a classic move!
I'm not finished yet, but this really smells like a Dr Pootytang actually submitted the game-game
was thinking the same thing; the fact that anyone knows this movie exists is wild... lol
Cool! Happy to see IODIS back! Thank you Harstem! Would be great to see more, I wonder if there are any complaints after new patch ))
I have to say, both players were incredibly respectful this game. I have to resect that myself.
Someone dared complaning about a strategy that nobody uses because it sucks.
P.S: I found something truly imbalance, it is how much I missed iodis. Please slightly more iodis 🙏
He's silver league....
I have a request or i hope you at least think about it.
Your video titles are always easy to click on and interesting but in some cases it doesnt truly tell me what it is. Today i was hoping for an IMBA episode and saw this and found another video to watch from some tuber Winter or something. After watching way too much starcraft for a day i saw this video again and thought maybe i will watch it for the commentary and what do i find? IMBA episode. Unfair, I have missed amazing content from you because the titles while being clickable don't always tell me what it is.
I had a similar problem with rank roulette, i missed an episode or two and thought it was just taking some time. Might have been my stupidity.
Something to think about. Also i still love these minimalistic titles they have "the captain" written all over them so dont go changing them too much because i am too lazy to click on videos.
According to SC2 Pulse, DrPootyTang leaves a lot of matches in the first 0-1 minute, and his highest MMR as Terran is 3k.
Ahahahaha Harstem that boxing analogy had me laughing for 5 whole minutes
The highlight is making Harstem keep saying "drpootytang" so much. I would send my replays to Harstem everytime I play against someone with a funky name, just to listen to Harstem say it 20 times.
funday monday monobattles!
I miss that series so much
Terran is quite obviously smurfing. I feel sorry for the Z.
Is he? As he said he probably usually dies to any kind of early-ish attack. Altho if the Zerg is Silver and the Terran is actually gold then maybe he is
Look at the early game. Terran managed to micro the reaper, kept doing his build order, was ahead in workers, and started early 3rd CC.
I'm not saying he's good, but definitely not silver. Maybe plat-diamond.
@@8Nifon8 The terran did not keep up the build order, but I agree that it looks smurfy and another comment seems to confirm that.
lurch reminds me a lot of my cousin when I played against him a while back. He never plays or watches SC2, but got motivated for some games at some point. I did fairly random "builds" that I never do (not really playing anymore aside from that) and still won almost all games without much effort, because I had a basic, badly executed plan and he did not. Understandably he just didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Oh I get it now ! That's why the Hydra Dash is for : run away from Ravens turrets !
Oh man, marine raven with SM was the most fun build ever. Those were also the days of autoturrets that lasted forever.
I think the actually imba unit is the planetary
GGs to both players for the sporting chatter! Hopefully lurch will learn to play with air units, too.
3:25 build order protoss
It's kinda amazing that this was known even with starcraft1 before brood war. When starcraft1 first came out there was one player who always instant expand, and he probably would had been the best player if people just let him do it, but people learned very fast to check if there is exp, and if he did exp they just rush him. Somehow this knowledge isn't there anymore for this guy.
DrPootytang is 100% a huge ketroc fan.
Macro focus and he starts with just 2 hatches and a roach warren.
3 vipers and GG... Or just a 200 army of roaches. Or a couple broodlords. Or even ultra...
The terran is not doing that strat properly but the opponent is just way worse !
"To counter his haras i built spore crawlers"
I have seen 2 in the entire game!
in my experience, mass raven starts to fall off in low to mid diamond league, but that doesn’t mean you can’t beat diamond league players with it
I was expecting to see uThermal, not silver players haha. Kudos!
I feel like there is no way that Lurch watched this replay. Although, I do have to appreciate his good manners at the end.
at 15:04 when you have starfleet command on screen and he's building 14 ravens at a time, I absolutely lost it, holy shit, my ribs hurt 🤣🤣
"to counter this harras i build i build spre crawler on my bases"
does nobody notice that its a zvP on OCEANBORN between DIAMOND players?!?!
How did you open a replay from the last patch
50 Ravens in the game and yet the actual issue are Planetaries
Someone call Ketroc
you need something tanky like Roaches they are not perfect for counter but its better then Hydra and Lings and you can make burrow for healing (they are cheap also). Do not attack directly on Terran CC or on mass Ravens instead use fast Zerlings for counter attack and harass since Ravens are slow if there are Hydras in your composition deploy Nydus in the back when you near opponent base for safety retrite.
Fast morph into Hive for Viper's parasitic bomb and make some Muta or Curruptors for attack on mass Ravens from the side where opponent does not deployd turrets in the perfection u should stack them by micos cast and yeah they are IMBA
BTW can you energy overcharge a Raven in 2v2?
Mark (uthermal) beats grandmasters with just ravens, just saying.
Yes, you can beat GM with any unit, as Beastyqt already proved.
Such a huge skill difference from the top ones to the bottom ones in GM.
If you get trolled like this replay, you got smurfed.
Can you actually get Serrel to replay this game from replay? He plays the zerg and you play the terran.
I love this series so much
i dont play zerg but mutas seem like a counter to ravens?
I play Z as offrace and yes, but depends on whether if there are another units, how many ravens are there, how many mutas you have... and overall, I'd say if you see something like mass libs(actual hell to deal with in big numbers without casters), banshees, pretty much any non-heavy air en masse, I would go for vipers for parasitic bombs.
Uthermal smurfing again…. I kid I kid, I love uthrermal, he is in my top 4 streamers who are also Dutch.
Nice one. ❤
Lurch is definitely doing the old vibe build. Which works against players who are genuinely silver, because it's silver. His execution was not all that great, but I think expecting heavy econ and scouting at silver is..... unrealistic.
DrPootytang would absolutely lose to anybody advanced enough to scout and react. But honestly imo at silver, you're better off just practicing a particular build with zero regard to what your opponent is doing, because you get more out of practicing not getting supply blocked than you do out of practicing scouting and reacting at that level.
Furthermore, if other commenters are telling the truth, DrPootyTang is a smurf who is playing at an artificially-lower league, using only this build.
So I don't disagree with any of what Harstem is saying, but I also think it's not going to be helpful to lurch at this level. I think the actual best advice for lurch here is: you win some, you lose some. Keep practicing, and when you reach the point where your MMR is stable, the next thing to add is scouting, and subsequently greedier econ.
Just my 2 cents
Thermal game?
this challenge is a whole different thing lol
who dares to take my name?
Mass Ravens Mass Views
Finally!!! Iiiodis
"A north american silver player"
Ah well now you are spoiling it!
You are too kind in your analysis 😅
Can somebody explain what's the point of doing Smurf builds on 2k MMR? It doesn't even look fun.
Terran actually looked Gold 1 like he said. That's 700 mmr above silver 2 so probably just matched after a long search time.
Although people who quit many games to stay at lower mmr is also a problem, even in plat and diamond
@@kugeltmg A gold terran with 4 bases in 6 mins?? That's too good of a macro.
@@markpayton3895 dude would have died to 12 lings at 6 minutes in the game lmao
@@markpayton3895 Base count doesn't equal macro lol. He had 45 workers and was floating minerals & gas for most of the game before that.... horrible macro.
Bruised ego
this must be a troll send in come on he is horrible
Harstem when you gunna join Grubby in OnlyFangs. Would love to see you, my favourite SC2 player playing WoW, my favourite game 🙌
Declinced! Return of the greatest spelling error of the series!
Harstem: You are allowed to get a spire vs mass ravens.
Also Harstem: Critizies the terran for building random turrets.
1st
so true, ill take 2nd
Mutas and corruptors would just die to rocket turrets and mines though.
No, corruptors counter this easily once you gave a decent amount of them. Or you could use viper, but not on this level. You could even use mass hydra for that but you need an economy, not a non-stop allin.
Or you could use broodlords for that
true at this level, but only on the Terran's side of the map. a few corruptors and you stop all the Ravan Harassment, then mass expand and build the 'OP' zerg units, ultras, lurkers, broods (OP at this level)
@@abyrvalg_ flying your corruptor or muta blob into like 3 rocket turrrets and a couple of mines to shoot at ravens and run away every time they put at least 5 autoturrets will not win this game. You will trade resouces and health for energy way too poorly.
You could only hope to win if you jump between bases with butas and the opponent can only F2.
Hard counters are drones & Queens... i.e. learning the absolute basics of Zerg & not having less than 40 drones at 6 minutes 😂Then you can beat clowns like DrPootytang with almost anything.
uthermal