"Television has been wonderful in telling that story, and is probably the most important factor in the success of the Breeder´s Cup. NBC´s coverage spans 4 1/2 hours of prime Saturday afternoon time in the fall, bringing horse racing to millions of mainstream and casual sports fans" Bill Shoemaker (1931-2003) Jockey
1990 Distaff still hurts. No telling how good Go For Wand was. Not to take away from Bayakoa, she was a Superstar. But I had to fast forward as soon I saw you were going to replay her second consecutive Distaff. :'''(
McCarron said throughout his Career the 1989 Classic was the 1 Race that he felt that "he" Won the Race and "Stole" the Race with the Tactics he used aboard Sunday Silence...Agreed....Easy Goer "flew" past him right as they crossed the Wire...Amazing Race
sbdgrwnmrw she became the first filly ever to win the breeder's cup classic which boosted her race wins to 14 she went on to win 19 straight races she lost her last race which was the 2010 breeder's cup classic to blame who won by a nose
yes, you are correct about what you documented regarding her career and i was as heartbroken as you likely were to see her have to maneuver her way through traffic the way she did on a very cold evening at church hill downs to finally reach, literally, her only real competitor (blame) and lose - as you, and i, and everyone else witnessed - by just a nose to blame who could not have asked for a better ride from start to finish... but i'm not sure how that "changed everything"... ghostzapper, and skipaway are 2 of the fastest, if not the fastest, horses to ever compete in the breeders cup... and then there are a handful after them who have made incredible appearances; Frankel being one of them, and the 3 horses who ran one of the fastest and most competitive turf races in 2003 the world has ever seen when all 3 of them hit the wire together - just type in "2003 breed cup clssc turf race" and you'll see it pop up.... zen was without a doubt a one-of-a-kind horse, very special indeed and will always be one of the "classics" all time greats... but i guess i was wondering what she "changed"...?
Cigar was a beast. He was such a competitor, it seemed Baily spent the first half of every race choking him to death. (No criticism of Baily, he did ride him to 16 straight). Can't say he was underrated per se, but I'm not sure he gets the consideration he deserves when discussing all time greats.
+Mike Blast Cigar's losses to 3-year-old Skip Away and veteran Alphabet Soup in 1996 are one reason why he doesn't get the consideration. His desperate half-length win in Dubai over Soul of the Matter (a good but hardly great horse) took a lot out of him (Dubai does that), and he was beaten by Dare and Go in the Pacific Classic later that year (I was there; I've never heard a crowd go silent all of a sudden like that one did). His win in the 1995 Breeder's Cup was over so-so competition; there were no Zenyattas or Tiznows there. The fact that he turned out to be sterile was reduced to a joke.
Best Horse out of them all in my opinion was a Loss...1989 Classic...Easy Goer as The Heavy 1-2 favorite losing by a Neck...Pat Day never should have let the Winner get that far ahead of him in the stretch...Easy Goer came into the race sluggish and ran Sluggish in the race but Still Should have Won....Easy Goer was a Monster...Any Distance...Sunday Silence just had his Number for whatever reason...Although the head to head matchup was 3 to 1 it was a Nose/Neck from being 3 to 1 in Easy Goers favor...Pat day was very spoiled aboard Easy Goer
Good show and only one glaring mistake - in 1995, earlier on that soggy track, Inside Information blew away the Distaff field by something like 13 lengths, almost twice as many as Princess Rooney's 7. And, yes, it's time to update 'The Ten Best' list -it's 20 years later and time to expand the list to 20 (maybe) so that such BC greats as Tiznow, Zenyatta, Da Hoss, Ouija Board, Godikova, High Chapparal, Midnight Lute, Royal Delta, and Beholder can bask in the first ten's glory.
Sunday Silence was ridden brillantly - he did not win by a desperate neck he was flicked with the whip at the furlong pole and won with a bit in hand there is no doubt easy goer was given an over confident ride and day has always been guilty of riding that horse in a stop start sort of way..... the way mccarron rode sunday was brillant everything was done going forward where he never had to ease back one of the best rides in breeders cup history - so simple but clearly world class riding
it wasn't a desperate "neck"... more like a 1/3 or 1/2 body length - but it was desperate.... the first time goer pulled even to ss should have been the one and only time, but to pass ss and not to lose to him... ss was a gamer a "racer".... which horse was faster? easy goer was undoubtedly the faster horse... it did take a brilliant ride on a brilliant horse to beat the faster horse but as the saying goes: "it-is-what-it-is" and silence "silenced" goer 3 out of 4 times... imo the only 2 horses that had speed comparable to that of easy goer regarding the years of the bcc were ghostzapper and skip away...
"La televisión ha sido decisiva en contar esa historia, y es probablemente el factor más importane en el éxito de la Copa de Criadores. La cobertura de NBC pasa 4 horas y media en la tarde del primer Sábado de Otoño, trayendo las carreras de caballos a millones de aficionados permanentes y ocasionales del deporte" Bill Shoemaker (1931-2003) Jinete
+Gel B Twenty This was produced the best part of twenty years ago so surely the makers will do a remake with new champions such as St Nicholas Abbey, High Chaparral, Zenyatta and Goldikova.
+Alexis Braunreiter By almost double the distance! No, the producers included 1995 and just made a mistake. Including Manila and excluding Unbridled seems also a miss.
DanielSong39 fuck Arrogate. just because he's won 5 FUCKIGN RACES hes now the best in the fucking world. if i knew him irl, i would shoot his owner in the head, and pay for arrogate to be taken off the race track, so people would pay attrention to Chrome, the obviously best.
DanielSong39 Yes #Cigar The "Greatest" Named "The Racehorse of the 1990's Decade" His race history can not be dispelled There will never be another #Cigar
"The Breeder's Cup" is a great way to promote racing. I look forward to it every year. I wrote "Black Deuce" with one purpose in mind: I wanted to express to people, both on and off the racetrack, how much I love horses and the great sport of racing. www.amazon.com/Black-Deuce-Stan-D-Jensen-ebook/dp/B0721YVFXL/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
+Travis West Back for more of your endless nonsense. Hmmm what? Pat Day what? Pat Day ONLY rode bad when EG ran vs SS? What a bunch of nonsense. First of all, Pat Day called some of his own riding on EG as "absolute rider errors, I did not ride my best race, made errors, made mistakes, underestimated ss, thanked the connections for merely keeping him on the horse, his concerns were to ride him in a start stop way yet he did ride him that way anyway, etc." Second of all, despite Days riding record & success's (& failures), many racing experts, writers, trainers, fans, etc were highly critical of how Day rode MANY OTHER HORSES BEFORE & long BEFORE (and after) the 1989 races between EG & SS were run. Day was criticized a great deal by many trainers, fans, experts, writers, bettors, etc throughout his entire career on many different horses. The fact that Day was heavily criticized by many trainers, fans, experts, writers, bettors, etc throughout his entire career on numerous OTHER horses - many BEFORE & well BEFORE EG races - demonstrated that the immense criticism that Day received prior (and likely after as well) on numerous OTHER horses obviously had nothing at all to do with only EG. Pat Day rode bad and was heavily criticized when he rode Java Gold, Forty Niner, Seeking the Gold, Sky Classic, Easy Goer, Rampage, Menifee, Timber Country, Turkoman, Thunder Gulch, Alysheba, Heavenly Prize, Surfside, Banshee Breeze, and many more. And he did get taken off and replaced on many of these horses. Day also rode bad and made many mistakes in the Whitney & Woodward on EG - but of course when he ran against SS the mistakes would cost him more & be more damaging. Its a bit curious to me that the connections never took him off & tried another top jockey on EG. They were close to taking him off after the Preakness, but as the trainer said, " Easy Goer was a big, strong horse, and the jockey Pat Day helped him by not crucifying him in his races and brought me back something. He had soundness problems, but we stayed on top of it. EVERY time Pat Day rode him, he brought me back some horse." This was possibly one of the main reasons why. Some quotes and proof for you? Sure. Plenty. Many examples, and these are not my words. 1- Before the TC, May 3, 1989 Philadelphia Daily News article, "First victory would make Pats Day" : "Pat Day takes (took) more abuse than any jockey in the country." Why would Day receive more criticism than any other top rider BEFORE he rode EG in any race vs SS? Continued: "He rides slowly in a world where everybody, especially jockeys, is in a hurry. After a brutal, way-too-patient ride on Seeking the Gold in the 88 Travers, Day almost ran into the stands after some irate fans who were wondering what it was he was waiting for as his former mount Forty Niner got away from him at the top of the stretch. His ride on Java Gold in the 87 Jockey Club Gold Cup made it appear that the clock in his head was actually a sun dial. Day rides Easy Goer like he always rides - confidently, serenely, cautiously." 2- "With Pat Day, its always close. No rider in America cuts it any closer. Pat Day could outwait Job. Even when on the lead in races with Easy Goer & Sky Classic, Day waited until he could feel the breath of the other runners to make his move." 3- "Day, admittedly, would get caught by surprise after backing off and waiting (and not continuing forward momentum) when on the lead." 4 - "Day would often exercise the patience for which he is famous long past the point at which it was appropriate. Some horses needed a rider, not a passenger." 5- Joe Drapes Race for the Triple Crown book - "Lukas had replaced Day with Bailey, Stevens and perhaps most insulting of all, Donna Barton. What frustrated Lukas etc was Days very deliberate, passive, patient, sit-still riding style." 6- "Days deliberate riding style of waiting and waiting, then occasionally making a move, and waiting again, frustrated trainer D. Wayne Lukas, owners, bettors, many fans etc. He also drew criticism by riding tentatively, and stopping and starting with many of his mounts. Day was given various unflattering nicknames." 7- "His style was a detriment on Forty Niner and many others. A few of Days rides on Easy Goer were a lot like the ones he gave Forty Niner, Sky Classic, Java Gold and Seeking the Gold. Perhaps puzzled with what to do, Day stopped and started (or waited for others when he had a lead) with Forty Niner, Sky Classic, Java & Gold, and their surges in the stretch left them a neck or nose short at the wire. Days riding style has been a detriment to many horses." 8- "Lukas was more critical of jockey Pat Days rides, " Pat (Day) spent most of the race steering him instead of riding him" Lukas said. He was not nearly as aggressive as I instructed him to be." 9- "Day admitted he misjudged the very slow pace on Java Gold." 10- "Day admitted it was absolutely rider error, I take full responsibility, I got him beat, I didnt ride my best race", etc for a few races on Easy Goer & he was on the better horse. After the Belmont, Day thanked the owner & trainer solely & simply for permitting him to stay on the horse & keep riding him. "I know they had to come under some heavy guns." 11- "Pat Day, evidently believed too many of the press clippings heaped on Java Gold. Day was so overconfident that he transformed the 87 JC Gold Cup from a soft spot into an impossible task for Java Gold. He permitted Creme Fraiche to steal an uncontested early lead and go on to score." 12- "In the 88 Travers, Pat Day made the dubious decision to pull Seeking the Gold back off a slow pace before making a late charge." McCarron on Forty Niner said, "I thought Seeking The Gold would be right there with me, but I looked around and saw Dynaformer. That stunned me. I knew we must`ve been walking because Dynaformer likes to run from the clouds." 13- "Easy Goer & Seeking the Gold drew the rail (No. 1 post) and the inside No. 2 post in the 1988 Travers, 1989 BCC & 1989 Preakness races which, under most circumstances, dictate that they be sent being inside. But Pat Day rode them and Day would wait." 14- "In the 88 Travers when Forty Niner inched ahead of him running a slow pace, jockey Pat Day still refused to use Seeking The Golds abundant speed. He sat motionless, surrendered the lead and permitted his horse to drop a couple of lengths back. But having conceded Forty Niner the advantage, the big late run predictably fell short -- by a nose. It was the most preposterous misuse of a horses speed since Day blew the $1 million 87 Jockey Club Gold Cup by taking the only speed horse in the field, Java Gold, impossibly far behind a slow pace." 15- "Day had a reputation for being overly cautious. Day was most known for his patience and he was often criticized for many of his rides.Pat Wait All Day waited forever and a day when riding Menifee in 99 Derby." 16- "Days tentativeness and patience as a reinsman was at times unnerving and exasperating for owners, trainers, fans, bettors etc. As Pat Forde, of the Louisville Courier-Journal, penned in 1995, "He is so patient he could watch a faucet drip for days." 17- "Day was cautious and tentative in his day to day riding, but it was a shock to see him ride so pitifully in many races of great importance." 18. West coaster Bill Christine actually stated that Day was "PATIENT" (and his PATIENCE got OVERWHELMED) in this Preakness race in his June 5, 1989 LA Times article even starting with the Title: "It was a DIFFERENCE of STYLES in the (89) Preakness: Valenzuelas AGGRESSIVE Western Riding OVERWHELMED Days Eastern (Day rode mostly in MIDWEST) PATIENCE." He mentions PVal outriding Day. He mentions the tactics of PVals tight riding, rough riding, boxing into the rail, a classic example of the hell-for-leather style etc against the PATIENT, more RELAXED Eastern (Midwest was where Day mainly rode) manner. He said, Valenzuela MADE two moves to help him win; Day MADE three mistakes that might have cost him the victory. Day also allowed Valenzuela to outmaneuver him for the stretch drive etc." 19. Additionally, Ed Schuyler Jr also stated (June 11, 1989 Daily News) that Day rode EG OVERLY DEFENSIVELY (Protectively) in this Preakness. Stating, "Days LACK of Aggression, not continuing his forward momentum caught him by surprise, then led to him being trapped in tight on the rail, not taking an AGGRESSIVE posture entering the stretch, etc." 20. Additionally, Jerry Greene (Orlando Sentinel - June 10, 1989) stated, "Valenzuela is as aggressive as they come on a horses back. In track vernacular, hes known as the best gate boy in the business, meaning nobody gets his horse out of the gate and into winning position better. P Val is as different from Day as, well, night from day. Day is a patient, finesse rider, and many felt his unwillingness to drive Easy Goer when they had the lead at the top of the stretch may have cost them a victory in the Preakness." 21. Additionally, EGs trainer McGaughey said after the 89 Preakness & before and after the 89 Belmont, "In the Preakness, We had him beat and Day let SS back in the race only to get trapped down on the rail. I want (ed) Pat Day to be MORE AGGRESSIVE (LESS relaxed) in his riding, even in the longer distanced mile and a half Belmont. Day was MORE AGGRESSIVE in the Belmont than he was in the Preakness. " Once again, These are not my words and these are certainly not limited to one horse. Sources - LA Times, May 5, 1992, October 11, 1987 Washington Post, August 19, 1988 Philadelphia D. News, August 21, 1988 Sun Sentinel, August 22, 1988 Times , August 23, 1988 Wash. Post, BloodHorse April 23, 2014, etc etc.
+Travis West Your welcome for the info disproving another one of your endless nonsense statements. As you said before? As you said before in one of the many comments you DELETED, the rider ALSO has ALOT to do with everything!!
+Travis West You are very welcome for the info disproving another one of your endless nonsense comments. As you said before in one of the many comments that you DELETED: "the jockey has A LOT to do with it" as well. Yes, every horse was controlled and handled by flawed humans. Hall of Fame trainer D Wayne Lukas and Hall of Fame jockey Eddie Arcaro agree with you that the jockey has a lot to do with it also. D Wayne Lukas said: "More BIG RACES are lost through jockey errors than all the thousands of other races." The great Hall of Fame jockey Eddie Arcaro said: "In close races decided by small margins like a nose, head, neck etc, the percentage that the jockey plays goes up significantly."
+Travis West What are you stating "you're welcome too" for? Having more endless, nonsense statements disproved? Stating more endless, nonsense statements? Previously stating that the jockey plays a big part of it, then deleting it? Deleting many comments of yours?
Go For Wand... those 1:10 3/5 fractions she set, were obviously the death of her. Sad to see that. I knew that Bayakoa won 2 BC's, but until just now; did not realize the circumstances of her 2nd BC Distaff victory.
+MsVanorak Google it if you have the stomach--a horrible break. Her leg was dangling by a thread. She got up and tried to hobble to the finish on three legs. They had to get her down as fast as possible and kill her. The worst.
+MsVanorak I don't know what the answer is--horse racing is a magnificent sport but there are too many deaths. In the U.S. there is one big partial answer--they need to get off the drugs (Lasix etc.) and breed less fragile horses (too many bred for profit that run fast as 2-year-olds vs. bred for stronger bones and later starts). Lots of these top horses that have died (Ruffian, Barbaro, Eight Belles, Go For Wand) were either very large and front-end heavy for speed, too much so in proportion to their legs (legacy of far too much Native Dancer) or simply spindly/bred from other horses that broke down (both Ruffian's parents, e.g.).
+MsVanorak In the U.S. there are "legal" drugs. Almost all of the racers are given Lasix, whether they need it or not (it's for horses that have respiratory bleeding)--it gives some slight advantage so they use it for all horses--but it ups recovery time and thus the horse have to have longer recovery times between races. There is also too much breeding of horses that will run and win when young (quick payoffs); then a lot of these horses get injured and are retired early . . . then bred to repeat and intensify the cycle. Bad practices with not enough regulation.
Something tells me That easy Goer, DelMarCLub, and Pat Ron are all the same person. One will make a comment and if you don't agree the other 2 will comment defending their first comment. So sad. Also,Travis deleted his comments? You do know YT has an option to flag comments which is what I am sure you did.
Wrong! False, not true at all. Nice try though. Actually, I, Travis West, fully admit that I used numerous usernames and went from video to video deleting and erasing my comments. I am a truly Sad, pathetic troll that could not and cannot discuss and debate civilly and respectfully. I ERASED and DELETED thousands of my numerous username comments trolling. I, Travis West, am Travis West, aka way2goutwest, aka GameBred45, aka Easy Poky, aka Easy Goer, aka westbound, aka westboundkennels, etc etc. I actually stooped so pathetically low that I talked to MYSELF using numerous usernames - Travis West, aka Travis Bickle, aka westbound, aka westboundkennels, aka way2gooutwest, aka Easy Poky, aka Easy Goer, aka GameBred45, aka etc etc. On the 2012 Breeders Cup Classic video, I magically went from Travis West to Easy Goer to easy poky to GameBred45 in just one thread. I actually conversed with MYSELF on here and there between my numerous usernames, including way2gooutwest and GameBred45! How truly sad and pathetic a troll I truly am.
Yes its absolutely 100% true! Go look on the 2012 Breeders Cup Classic video uploaded by Breeders Cup World Championships, I magically went from Travis West to Easy Goer to easy poky to GameBred45 in just one thread. The thread was first commented by Lee SOG commenting, "Can you imagine what Frankel would have done to this field if he was entered?? That's a scary thought..." Scroll through the thread and you will see the absolute truth. I went from Travis West to easy goer to easy poky to GameBred45 in this one thread alone!
Alysheba overrated?? Lets see, won the Kentucky Derby in the most fouled, roughest stretch run in history, nearly going down and still gathered up, got blocked twice more and won the race. Then won the Preakness. Won the Breeders Cup and almost any big race you can name. Set the track record at the Meadowlands at 1:59 2/5 and is the ONLY horse in modern history to run 10 furlongs under 2:00 in one calender year. You better check his record Aguilera. There is a long period of Alysheba's life missing because he was bought and taken to Saudi Arabia which ended his career here. Was Sunday Silence great, yes he was. Was he greater then "Sheba"... that is and will always be debated. My money is on Alysheba.
which horse would you have preferred to have owned - Winning Colors or Personal Ensign - no contest Winning Colors she won the Derby and ran in the TC against the colts always gave her all despite cheapskate jockeys in the TC trying to take her out. Sorry for the rant but it pees me off that Pat Day on forty-niner ran her wide in the Preakness - for what purpose other than to stop her winning - no respect from me.
Does anybody that bet on horse think they actually care about the horses at all for their welfare when they get hurt or injured or sometime dies from racing I'll really think horse racing should be banned forever would stop cruelty and pain and suffering from dumb humans and heartless owners that don't give a fuck about the horses at all when they don't earn anymore money for them they send thoroughbreds and young horses too slaughter houses plus no life for horses plus their lives are stolen from them all the time plus poor excuse for owners plus sick in the head
Really bad organized. This is about races and one or two horses. Please take the time to do a better job. If talking about champions, be specific and provide some background to honor the label. I pass.
This is a recording from a televised event. Please vent your frustrations on the person who MADE this televised event, and NOT the person who shared it with you, at their own expense.
even Kentucky derby winners and breeders cup champions get sent to slaughter. FERDINAND. and EXCELLER sport of kings yourass. look em up on youtube videos. they earn millions and don't get to finish their retirements in a green pasture. awful.
0311RFLMN If such things bother you many other horses #Wildhorses and #Domestic horses go to slaughter too not just TB Racehorses Quarter Horses too as well as other equines Do something about it Don't blame the HORSES Never helps to complain about it Try to help them
Blame the damn breeders. They use them as money makers, and when they're no use for breeding, then it's dog food time. My wife gelded her mini stallion, but he's still shown and is a loved member of the family. He'll never be slaughtered.
"Television has been wonderful in telling that story, and is probably the most important factor in the success of the Breeder´s Cup. NBC´s coverage spans 4 1/2 hours of prime Saturday afternoon time in the fall, bringing horse racing to millions of mainstream and casual sports fans"
Bill Shoemaker (1931-2003) Jockey
!989, 2001, and 2015 Breeders Cups Classics are my favorites. There have been some great champions over the years.
1990 Distaff still hurts. No telling how good Go For Wand was. Not to take away from Bayakoa, she was a Superstar. But I had to fast forward as soon I saw you were going to replay her second consecutive Distaff. :'''(
McCarron said throughout his Career the 1989 Classic was the 1 Race that he felt that "he" Won the Race and "Stole" the Race with the Tactics he used aboard Sunday Silence...Agreed....Easy Goer "flew" past him right as they crossed the Wire...Amazing Race
Thanks for sharing, Nice to go back in Time.
Alysheba's Classic had to be one of the the most talented fields ever assembled!!!
Tom Durkin voice is the all time great...
Being Canadian i am a huge fan of the undefeated champion Dance Smartly 😊
This was produced in the B.Z. era: Before Zenyatta. Zenyatta changed everything.
+Debra Enderle how did zen change everything?
sbdgrwnmrw she became the first filly ever to win the breeder's cup classic which boosted her race wins to 14 she went on to win 19 straight races she lost her last race which was the 2010 breeder's cup classic to blame who won by a nose
yes, you are correct about what you documented regarding her career and i was as heartbroken as you likely were to see her have to maneuver her way through traffic the way she did on a very cold evening at church hill downs to finally reach, literally, her only real competitor (blame) and lose - as you, and i, and everyone else witnessed - by just a nose to blame who could not have asked for a better ride from start to finish... but i'm not sure how that "changed everything"... ghostzapper, and skipaway are 2 of the fastest, if not the fastest, horses to ever compete in the breeders cup... and then there are a handful after them who have made incredible appearances; Frankel being one of them, and the 3 horses who ran one of the fastest and most competitive turf races in 2003 the world has ever seen when all 3 of them hit the wire together - just type in "2003 breed cup clssc turf race" and you'll see it pop up.... zen was without a doubt a one-of-a-kind horse, very special indeed and will always be one of the "classics" all time greats... but i guess i was wondering what she "changed"...?
Go For Wand was an absolute tragedy.
I have to agree Easy Goer and Sunday Silence were both super horses, but heart belongs to Sunday Silence!
Cigar was a beast. He was such a competitor, it seemed Baily spent the first half of every race choking him to death. (No criticism of Baily, he did ride him to 16 straight). Can't say he was underrated per se, but I'm not sure he gets the consideration he deserves when discussing all time greats.
+Mike Blast Cigar's losses to 3-year-old Skip Away and veteran Alphabet Soup in 1996 are one reason why he doesn't get the consideration. His desperate half-length win in Dubai over Soul of the Matter (a good but hardly great horse) took a lot out of him (Dubai does that), and he was beaten by Dare and Go in the Pacific Classic later that year (I was there; I've never heard a crowd go silent all of a sudden like that one did). His win in the 1995 Breeder's Cup was over so-so competition; there were no Zenyattas or Tiznows there. The fact that he turned out to be sterile was reduced to a joke.
Mike Blast #Cigar was still named "The Racehorse of the 1990's Decade One of the Greatest ever!
Goldikova : 3 consecutive Breeder's Cup : 2008-2009-2010 !!
Of course, Cigar!
Da Hoss how could you omit DA HOSS!!! He is still alive aged 28 ad living in the Hall of Champions at the Kentucky Horse Park.
Best Horse out of them all in my opinion was a Loss...1989 Classic...Easy Goer as The Heavy 1-2 favorite losing by a Neck...Pat Day never should have let the Winner get that far ahead of him in the stretch...Easy Goer came into the race sluggish and ran Sluggish in the race but Still Should have Won....Easy Goer was a Monster...Any Distance...Sunday Silence just had his Number for whatever reason...Although the head to head matchup was 3 to 1 it was a Nose/Neck from being 3 to 1 in Easy Goers favor...Pat day was very spoiled aboard Easy Goer
Easy Goer and Sunday Silence were two super racehorses.
Enjoyed watching the horse races.
Good show and only one glaring mistake - in 1995, earlier on that soggy track, Inside Information blew away the Distaff field by something like 13 lengths, almost twice as many as Princess Rooney's 7.
And, yes, it's time to update 'The Ten Best' list -it's 20 years later and time to expand the list to 20 (maybe) so that such BC greats as Tiznow, Zenyatta, Da Hoss, Ouija Board, Godikova, High Chapparal, Midnight Lute, Royal Delta, and Beholder can bask in the first ten's glory.
89 classic my favourite , sunday silence was a super racehorse
Hey Captain!
@ Jim
My favorite as well. What a fantastic horse!
Psychosis now you know my first love the horses
One of the first races I ever bet on was at Del Mar on a mare named Wishing Well...Sunday Silence's mom
The film would fittingly conclude with Cigar's record-setting performance.
did anyone else see lady secrets lead change in her first race
I see horses change leads in race videos all the time. Left lead on turns; right lead on the straightaways.
Sunday Silence was ridden brillantly - he did not win by a desperate neck he was flicked with the whip at the furlong pole and won with a bit in hand
there is no doubt easy goer was given an over confident ride and day has always been guilty of riding that horse in a stop start sort of way.....
the way mccarron rode sunday was brillant everything was done going forward where he never had to ease back
one of the best rides in breeders cup history - so simple but clearly world class riding
***** thanks - i see some jockeys complicate rides - mccarron was one of the best - without a doubt
it wasn't a desperate "neck"... more like a 1/3 or 1/2 body length - but it was desperate.... the first time goer pulled even to ss should have been the one and only time, but to pass ss and not to lose to him... ss was a gamer a "racer".... which horse was faster? easy goer was undoubtedly the faster horse... it did take a brilliant ride on a brilliant horse to beat the faster horse but as the saying goes: "it-is-what-it-is" and silence "silenced" goer 3 out of 4 times... imo the only 2 horses that had speed comparable to that of easy goer regarding the years of the bcc were ghostzapper and skip away...
manila bay horse
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"La televisión ha sido decisiva en contar esa historia, y es probablemente el factor más importane en el éxito de la Copa de Criadores. La cobertura de NBC pasa 4 horas y media en la tarde del primer Sábado de Otoño, trayendo las carreras de caballos a millones de aficionados permanentes y ocasionales del deporte"
Bill Shoemaker (1931-2003) Jinete
American Pharoah will be added to this list soon.
+Gel B Twenty This was produced the best part of twenty years ago so surely the makers will do a remake with new champions such as St Nicholas Abbey, High Chaparral, Zenyatta and Goldikova.
Zenyatta is first
nah... zen cannot be first.. too many horse that were much faster than her... but she's worthy of being added to the list no doubt....
Gel B meh, his win, to me, was boring and plain
sbdgrwnmrw if there were faster horses to beat her in the BCC, why did she win?
This must've been broadcasted before Inside Information, because she beat the 7 length record.
+Alexis Braunreiter By almost double the distance! No, the producers included 1995 and just made a mistake. Including Manila and excluding Unbridled seems also a miss.
Zenyatta. Absolutely the best filly to ever race.
Would of been nice to see winx try her
Cigar, the greatest Breeder's Cup Champion of them all! Still the best, 20 years later!
+Negan Lannister Nippon
and now AP is after winning the grand slam
Look out for Arrogate!
DanielSong39 fuck Arrogate. just because he's won 5 FUCKIGN RACES hes now the best in the fucking world. if i knew him irl, i would shoot his owner in the head, and pay for arrogate to be taken off the race track, so people would pay attrention to Chrome, the obviously best.
DanielSong39 Yes #Cigar The "Greatest" Named "The Racehorse of the 1990's Decade" His race history can not be dispelled There will never be another #Cigar
Ladys secret had a big heart n great lungs
Running style just like her daddy.. Big strides for a little filly
MIESQUE!!! the one and only!
Yes, I imagine that many of these Europeans would have been more comfortable on turf rather than dirt
Lady secret was all heart
Zenyatta was the best breeders cup from last to champ, first female
To win the breeders cup! Zenyatta the queen!
TIZNOW
2000 - 2001
CLASSIC
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California bred
"The Breeder's Cup" is a great way to promote racing. I look forward to it every year. I wrote "Black Deuce" with one purpose in mind: I wanted to express to people, both on and off the racetrack, how much I love horses and the great sport of racing. www.amazon.com/Black-Deuce-Stan-D-Jensen-ebook/dp/B0721YVFXL/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
needs to be updated
No doubt at all that many of Pat Day's awful rides were Ron Franklin - esque!
+Travis West Back for more of your endless nonsense. Hmmm what? Pat Day what? Pat Day ONLY rode bad when EG ran vs SS? What a bunch of nonsense. First of all, Pat Day called some of his own riding on EG as "absolute rider errors, I did not ride my best race, made errors, made mistakes, underestimated ss, thanked the connections for merely keeping him on the horse, his concerns were to ride him in a start stop way yet he did ride him that way anyway, etc." Second of all, despite Days riding record & success's (& failures), many racing experts, writers, trainers, fans, etc were highly critical of how Day rode MANY OTHER HORSES BEFORE & long BEFORE (and after) the 1989 races between EG & SS were run. Day was criticized a great deal by many trainers, fans, experts, writers, bettors, etc throughout his entire career on many different horses. The fact that Day was heavily criticized by many trainers, fans, experts, writers, bettors, etc throughout his entire career on numerous OTHER horses - many BEFORE & well BEFORE EG races - demonstrated that the immense criticism that Day received prior (and likely after as well) on numerous OTHER horses obviously had nothing at all to do with only EG. Pat Day rode bad and was heavily criticized when he rode Java Gold, Forty Niner, Seeking the Gold, Sky Classic, Easy Goer, Rampage, Menifee, Timber Country, Turkoman, Thunder Gulch, Alysheba, Heavenly Prize, Surfside, Banshee Breeze, and many more. And he did get taken off and replaced on many of these horses. Day also rode bad and made many mistakes in the Whitney & Woodward on EG - but of course when he ran against SS the mistakes would cost him more & be more damaging. Its a bit curious to me that the connections never took him off & tried another top jockey on EG. They were close to taking him off after the Preakness, but as the trainer said, " Easy Goer was a big, strong horse, and the jockey Pat Day helped him by not crucifying him in his races and brought me back something. He had soundness problems, but we stayed on top of it. EVERY time Pat Day rode him, he brought me back some horse." This was possibly one of the main reasons why.
Some quotes and proof for you? Sure. Plenty. Many examples, and these are not my words. 1- Before the TC, May 3, 1989 Philadelphia Daily News article, "First victory would make Pats Day" : "Pat Day takes (took) more abuse than any jockey in the country." Why would Day receive more criticism than any other top rider BEFORE he rode EG in any race vs SS? Continued: "He rides slowly in a world where everybody, especially jockeys, is in a hurry. After a brutal, way-too-patient ride on Seeking the Gold in the 88 Travers, Day almost ran into the stands after some irate fans who were wondering what it was he was waiting for as his former mount Forty Niner got away from him at the top of the stretch. His ride on Java Gold in the 87 Jockey Club Gold Cup made it appear that the clock in his head was actually a sun dial. Day rides Easy Goer like he always rides - confidently, serenely, cautiously." 2- "With Pat Day, its always close. No rider in America cuts it any closer. Pat Day could outwait Job. Even when on the lead in races with Easy Goer & Sky Classic, Day waited until he could feel the breath of the other runners to make his move." 3- "Day, admittedly, would get caught by surprise after backing off and waiting (and not continuing forward momentum) when on the lead." 4 - "Day would often exercise the patience for which he is famous long past the point at which it was appropriate. Some horses needed a rider, not a passenger." 5- Joe Drapes Race for the Triple Crown book - "Lukas had replaced Day with Bailey, Stevens and perhaps most insulting of all, Donna Barton.
What frustrated Lukas etc was Days very deliberate, passive, patient,
sit-still riding style." 6- "Days deliberate riding style of waiting
and waiting, then occasionally making a move, and waiting again,
frustrated trainer D. Wayne Lukas, owners, bettors, many fans etc. He
also drew criticism by riding tentatively, and stopping and starting
with many of his mounts. Day was given various unflattering nicknames."
7- "His style was a detriment on Forty Niner and many others. A few of Days rides on Easy Goer were a lot like the ones he gave Forty Niner, Sky Classic, Java Gold and Seeking the Gold. Perhaps puzzled with what to do, Day
stopped and started (or waited for others when he had a lead) with Forty
Niner, Sky Classic, Java & Gold, and their surges in the stretch
left them a neck or nose short at the wire. Days riding style has been a
detriment to many horses." 8- "Lukas was more critical of jockey Pat
Days rides, " Pat (Day) spent most of the race steering him instead of
riding him" Lukas said. He was not nearly as aggressive as I
instructed him to be." 9- "Day admitted he misjudged the very slow pace
on Java Gold." 10- "Day admitted it was absolutely rider error, I
take full responsibility, I got him beat, I didnt ride my best
race", etc for a few races on Easy Goer & he was on the better
horse. After the Belmont, Day thanked the owner & trainer solely
& simply for permitting him to stay on the horse & keep riding
him. "I know they had to come under some heavy guns." 11- "Pat Day,
evidently believed too many of the press clippings heaped on Java Gold.
Day was so overconfident that he transformed the 87 JC Gold Cup from a
soft spot into an impossible task for Java Gold. He permitted Creme
Fraiche to steal an uncontested early lead and go on to score." 12- "In
the 88 Travers, Pat Day made the dubious decision to pull Seeking the
Gold back off a slow pace before making a late charge." McCarron on
Forty Niner said, "I thought Seeking The Gold would be right there with
me, but I looked around and saw Dynaformer. That stunned me. I knew we
must`ve been walking because Dynaformer likes to run from the clouds."
13- "Easy Goer & Seeking the Gold drew the rail (No. 1 post) and the
inside No. 2 post in the 1988 Travers, 1989 BCC & 1989 Preakness races
which, under most circumstances, dictate that they be sent being inside.
But Pat Day rode them and Day would wait." 14- "In the 88 Travers
when Forty Niner inched ahead of him running a slow pace, jockey Pat Day
still refused to use Seeking The Golds abundant speed. He sat
motionless, surrendered the lead and permitted his horse to drop a
couple of lengths back. But having conceded Forty Niner the advantage,
the big late run predictably fell short -- by a nose. It was the most
preposterous misuse of a horses speed since Day blew the $1 million 87
Jockey Club Gold Cup by taking the only speed horse in the field, Java
Gold, impossibly far behind a slow pace." 15- "Day had a reputation for
being overly cautious. Day was most known for his patience and he was
often criticized for many of his rides.Pat Wait All Day waited
forever and a day when riding Menifee in 99 Derby." 16- "Days
tentativeness and patience as a reinsman was at times unnerving and
exasperating for owners, trainers, fans, bettors etc. As Pat Forde, of
the Louisville Courier-Journal, penned in 1995, "He is so patient he
could watch a faucet drip for days." 17- "Day was cautious and
tentative in his day to day riding, but it was a shock to see him ride
so pitifully in many races of great importance." 18. West coaster Bill Christine actually stated that Day was "PATIENT" (and his PATIENCE got OVERWHELMED) in this Preakness race in his June 5, 1989 LA Times article even starting with the Title: "It was a DIFFERENCE of STYLES in the (89) Preakness: Valenzuelas AGGRESSIVE Western Riding OVERWHELMED Days Eastern (Day rode mostly in MIDWEST) PATIENCE." He mentions PVal outriding Day. He mentions the tactics of PVals tight riding, rough riding, boxing into the rail, a classic example of the hell-for-leather style etc against the PATIENT, more RELAXED Eastern (Midwest was where Day mainly rode) manner. He said, Valenzuela MADE two moves to help him win; Day MADE three mistakes
that might have cost him the victory. Day also allowed Valenzuela to
outmaneuver him for the stretch drive etc." 19. Additionally, Ed
Schuyler Jr also stated (June 11, 1989 Daily News) that Day rode EG OVERLY DEFENSIVELY (Protectively) in this Preakness. Stating, "Days
LACK of Aggression, not continuing his forward momentum caught him by
surprise, then led to him being trapped in tight on the rail, not taking
an AGGRESSIVE posture entering the stretch, etc." 20. Additionally,
Jerry Greene (Orlando Sentinel - June 10, 1989) stated, "Valenzuela is
as aggressive as they come on a horses back. In track vernacular, hes
known as the best gate boy in the business, meaning nobody gets his
horse out of the gate and into winning position better. P Val is as
different from Day as, well, night from day. Day is a patient, finesse
rider, and many felt his unwillingness to drive Easy Goer when they had
the lead at the top of the stretch may have cost them a victory in the
Preakness." 21. Additionally, EGs trainer McGaughey said after the 89
Preakness & before and after the 89 Belmont, "In the Preakness, We
had him beat and Day let SS back in the race only to get trapped down
on the rail. I want (ed) Pat Day to be MORE AGGRESSIVE (LESS relaxed) in
his riding, even in the longer distanced mile and a half Belmont. Day
was MORE AGGRESSIVE in the Belmont than he was in the Preakness. " Once again, These are not my words and these are certainly not limited to one horse. Sources - LA Times, May 5, 1992, October 11, 1987 Washington Post, August 19, 1988 Philadelphia D. News, August 21, 1988 Sun Sentinel,
August 22, 1988 Times , August 23, 1988 Wash. Post, BloodHorse April 23,
2014, etc etc.
+Travis West Your welcome for the info disproving another one of your endless nonsense statements. As you said before? As you said before in one of the many comments you DELETED, the rider ALSO has ALOT to do with everything!!
+Travis West You are very welcome for the info disproving another one of your endless nonsense comments. As you said before in one of the many comments that you DELETED: "the jockey has A LOT to do with it" as well. Yes, every horse was controlled and handled by flawed humans. Hall of Fame trainer D Wayne Lukas and Hall of Fame jockey Eddie Arcaro agree with you that the jockey has a lot to do with it also. D Wayne Lukas said: "More BIG RACES are lost through jockey errors than all the thousands of other races." The great Hall of Fame jockey Eddie Arcaro said: "In close races decided by small margins like a nose, head, neck etc, the percentage that the jockey plays goes up significantly."
+Travis West What are you stating "you're welcome too" for? Having more endless, nonsense statements disproved? Stating more endless, nonsense statements? Previously stating that the jockey plays a big part of it, then deleting it? Deleting many comments of yours?
+Travis West Ok that hasnt been your style at all. Tt didnt sound like you were trying to be friendly, but Ill take your word for it.
Cigar was loved and he knew that and when a horse knows he is loved that horse will run to parts unknown for that love.
Capo Capo, Dancing Brave had a really hard season,he went to the well too often.
Dancing Brave suffered an eye injury during the race. He didn't run out of gas.
My favourite jockeys Jerry Bailey and Gary Stevens
Go For Wand... those 1:10 3/5 fractions she set, were obviously the death of her. Sad to see that. I knew that Bayakoa won 2 BC's, but until just now; did not realize the circumstances of her 2nd BC Distaff victory.
1st Breeders Cup at what is now the site of the new stadium in Los Angeles...
How can it be that Arazi's juvenile win be omitted??
Major, major bias towards US horses
Wow that's the entire reason I wanted to watch . thanks for the heads up.
Dang shame he was sterile. :( He was less then $200 from being a $10,000,000 winner.
Why, why show Go for Wand? The worst horror in a top Breeder's Cup race, and they act as though it were a sideshow.
+MsVanorak Google it if you have the stomach--a horrible break. Her leg was dangling by a thread. She got up and tried to hobble to the finish on three legs. They had to get her down as fast as possible and kill her. The worst.
+MsVanorak I don't know what the answer is--horse racing is a magnificent sport but there are too many deaths. In the U.S. there is one big partial answer--they need to get off the drugs (Lasix etc.) and breed less fragile horses (too many bred for profit that run fast as 2-year-olds vs. bred for stronger bones and later starts). Lots of these top horses that have died (Ruffian, Barbaro, Eight Belles, Go For Wand) were either very large and front-end heavy for speed, too much so in proportion to their legs (legacy of far too much Native Dancer) or simply spindly/bred from other horses that broke down (both Ruffian's parents, e.g.).
+MsVanorak In the U.S. there are "legal" drugs. Almost all of the racers are given Lasix, whether they need it or not (it's for horses that have respiratory bleeding)--it gives some slight advantage so they use it for all horses--but it ups recovery time and thus the horse have to have longer recovery times between races. There is also too much breeding of horses that will run and win when young (quick payoffs); then a lot of these horses get injured and are retired early . . . then bred to repeat and intensify the cycle. Bad practices with not enough regulation.
Agreed, that moment broke my heart, I loved that filly.
No reason to
my horse is related to lady's Secret
+Kaitlyn Kotan You have a good horse.
You're lucky, you have the blood of Secretariat
Lady's secret was related to Secretariat right?
Is Manila from the Philippines?
Yes owed by cojuanco
Owned by Cojuanco
Okai, thanks
cigar is the best i have seen.
The thriller from Manila
Something tells me That easy Goer, DelMarCLub, and Pat Ron are all the same person. One will make a comment and if you don't agree the other 2 will comment defending their first comment. So sad. Also,Travis deleted his comments? You do know YT has an option to flag comments which is what I am sure you did.
Wrong! False, not true at all. Nice try though. Actually, I, Travis West, fully admit that I used numerous usernames and went from video to video deleting and erasing my comments. I am a truly Sad, pathetic troll that could not and cannot discuss and debate civilly and respectfully. I ERASED and DELETED thousands of my numerous username comments trolling. I, Travis West, am Travis West, aka way2goutwest, aka GameBred45, aka Easy Poky, aka Easy Goer, aka westbound, aka westboundkennels, etc etc. I actually stooped so pathetically low that I talked to MYSELF using numerous usernames - Travis West, aka Travis Bickle, aka westbound, aka westboundkennels, aka way2gooutwest, aka Easy Poky, aka Easy Goer, aka GameBred45, aka etc etc. On the 2012 Breeders Cup Classic video, I magically went from Travis West to Easy Goer to easy poky to GameBred45 in just one thread. I actually conversed with MYSELF on here and there between my numerous usernames, including way2gooutwest and GameBred45! How truly sad and pathetic a troll I truly am.
Travis West 😂Ok.....if you say so...
Yes its absolutely 100% true! Go look on the 2012 Breeders Cup Classic video uploaded by Breeders Cup World Championships, I magically went from Travis West to Easy Goer to easy poky to GameBred45 in just one thread. The thread was first commented by Lee SOG commenting, "Can you imagine what Frankel would have done to this field if he was entered?? That's a scary thought..." Scroll through the thread and you will see the absolute truth. I went from Travis West to easy goer to easy poky to GameBred45 in this one thread alone!
Go for Wand WWWHHHYYY ?
She clipped her own heels.
Ferdinand!
Alyshiba was over-rated. Sunday Silence was the real deal then and after.
Alysheba overrated?? Lets see, won the Kentucky Derby in the most fouled, roughest stretch run in history, nearly going down and still gathered up, got blocked twice more and won the race. Then won the Preakness. Won the Breeders Cup and almost any big race you can name. Set the track record at the Meadowlands at 1:59 2/5 and is the ONLY horse in modern history to run 10 furlongs under 2:00 in one calender year. You better check his record Aguilera. There is a long period of Alysheba's life missing because he was bought and taken to Saudi Arabia which ended his career here. Was Sunday Silence great, yes he was. Was he greater then "Sheba"... that is and will always be debated. My money is on Alysheba.
hated those saddle cloth colors
which horse would you have preferred to have owned - Winning Colors or Personal Ensign - no contest Winning Colors she won the Derby and ran in the TC against the colts always gave her all despite cheapskate jockeys in the TC trying to take her out. Sorry for the rant but it pees me off that Pat Day on forty-niner ran her wide in the Preakness - for what purpose other than to stop her winning - no respect from me.
World's richest horse race? Nonsense. The Dubai races were richer by over two million dollars, three of them. Typical self aggrandisement.
Does anybody that bet on horse think they actually care about the horses at all for their welfare when they get hurt or injured or sometime dies from racing I'll really think horse racing should be banned forever would stop cruelty and pain and suffering from dumb humans and heartless owners that don't give a fuck about the horses at all when they don't earn anymore money for them they send thoroughbreds and young horses too slaughter houses plus no life for horses plus their lives are stolen from them all the time plus poor excuse for owners plus sick in the head
Really bad organized. This is about races and one or two horses. Please take the time to do a better job. If talking about champions, be specific and provide some background to honor the label. I pass.
This is a recording from a televised event. Please vent your frustrations on the person who MADE this televised event, and NOT the person who shared it with you, at their own expense.
ArchDandy1134
Pat Day ruined Easy Goer.
Totally agree... He was a potential Man o War... Just bad riding
even Kentucky derby winners and breeders cup champions get sent to slaughter. FERDINAND. and EXCELLER sport of kings yourass. look em up on youtube videos. they earn millions and don't get to finish their retirements in a green pasture. awful.
0311RFLMN If such things bother you many other horses #Wildhorses and #Domestic horses go to slaughter too not just TB Racehorses Quarter Horses too as well as other equines Do something about it Don't blame the HORSES Never helps to complain about it Try to help them
Blame the damn breeders. They use them as money makers, and when they're no use for breeding, then it's dog food time. My wife gelded her mini stallion, but he's still shown and is a loved member of the family. He'll never be slaughtered.
such a sad excuse for entertainment.