Look if Nas wasnt so humble, he would be the talk. I think they do that because Nas doesnt be out here talking shit and all that. So many people are Jay D riders
Its insane Nas dropping Grammy award winning album and Grammy nominated album this year plus Magic.... you barely hear it from the hip hop media its disrespectful. Nas vs Jayz is a no brainer Nas hands down.... it's like 2001 all over again Jay was declared the winner and BANG Nas destroyed him
A bill and some change to 70ms ?🤔 14 numbers 1s to like 4?🤔 actual credibility in the street to a fuckin liar?🤔 and the TAKEOVER>ether?🤔 hmm.. idk buddy.. naz=LAAAAAAAAME
@@davidwilliams8822 To me there are 2 tracks, 1 each, that represent both these Hip Hop Monsters main audience; New York State of Mind and Empire State of Mind! Say what you wanna say, but it has always been clear to me that Jay-Z has always been geared towards Club/Radio hits, while NaS has always been about his Art/Culture when laying lyrics and creativity on Tracks, with the pressure from Record companies of having to produce something for the Club/Radio on every album.
"Biggie's Ready to Die album came out several months after Illmatic, and Biggie was crowned king of New York in the popular culture of Hip Hop heads, Ready to Die unfairly over-shadowed Illmatic, which is truly a classic album. Though they were quite distinct artists, they innovated in analogous ways. Biggie merged language that was high and low, vernacular and vocabulary words, in a way that sounded natural. He did this with a sophisticated understanding of the patterns of black language. When a different or unusual word or phrase could be introduced while still maintaining the aesthetics of black language, he inserted it. NaS, in contrast, merged concepts that were high and low, vernacular and metaphysical, in a manner that was whole rather than pieced together, thus presenting a complex that is unusual in any music outside of jazz. What Biggie started to do with language in 1994, NaS had already begun to do with ideas on Illmatic. He carries us through the "Righteous steps" of the cosmic, oceanic, and literal dimensions of his person. He transcends." - Imany Perry (Born To Use Mics)
People really act like Nas ain't got many classics smh... Illmatic & It Was Written are classics from start to finish. So these are about 23 classic tracks alone.
It is important to be objective. I am a huge Nas fan but I will never belittle Jay-Z s contribution to Hip-hop and those who love Jay-Z must stop belittling Nas contributions to Hip-hop. Let us give them their flowers while they are still alive.
To me there are 2 tracks, 1 each, that represent both these Hip Hop Monsters main audience; New York State of Mind and Empire State of Mind! Say what you wanna say, but it has always been clear to me that Jay-Z has always been geared towards Club/Radio hits, while NaS has always been about his Art/Culture when laying lyrics and creativity on Tracks, with the pressure from Record companies of having to produce something for the Club/Radio on every album.
BRUH! The disrespect is flagrant! Nas can play “Dead Presidents” against Jay in a Versuz!! I just think a lot of Jay’s stans are way too young to understand Nas’ impact on Jay!
Real Hov fans are huge Nas fans you can’t help it. Even when they bumped heads and you sided with Jay you still was bumping Stillmatic. I’m speaking from the experience😂🤣 it’s all truth. Peace to both of the Gods but even Hov makes it clear that he has a unique respect for Nas
I’m more of a Nas guy, but it seems in hip hop we have to decrease one of the two to increase the other. Both Nas and Jay are pillars of this thing of ours.
he did not start it, that shit had been out there for a while mainly because of albums such as I Am, Nastradamus and Street's Disciple. These are the only three albums you could point to sonically that did not fit well with Nas.
But JayZ gets a pass for trash ass albums like Magna Carter and Kingdom Come. Them beats were awful on them albums and people still give him a pass. Smh
To me there are 2 tracks, 1 each, that represent both these Hip Hop Monsters main audience; New York State of Mind and Empire State of Mind! Say what you wanna say, but it has always been clear to me that Jay-Z has always been geared towards Club/Radio hits, while NaS has always been about his Art/Culture when laying lyrics and creativity on Tracks, with the pressure from Record companies of having to produce something for the Club/Radio on every album.
You didn’t have to move 5 Million units to be a superstar back in 84 !! I have no idea how old you were when LL came out but he was already superstar status when RADIO dropped. KRUSH GROOVE, WILDCATS. By the time his 2nd dropped in 87, he was UNFUCKWITABLE. with that West Coast Heat.
Coop/Mike, this old vid popped up on my timeline so I wanted to add a comment. Mike D states that he thinks LL is the first hip hop Superstar. Coop disagrees and gives the nod to Snoop based on record sales and popularity. I'd just like to say that instead of judging based on total numbers in the 80's we should judge by percentage of THE ACTUAL HIP HOP LISTENING AUDIENCE. Once gangster rap became prominent in the 90's outside consumers made 5 million sales possible. These where nontraditional whites, females etc. In the 80's many females thought rap was aiight but wasn't buying it in droves unless it appealed to them directly. (Salt n Pepper, LL, Kane) They were more RnB oriented. Older blacks actually HATED hip hop. The caucasian audience was extremely limited and only bought into crossover acts like PE, NWA, BEASTIE BOYS, TONE LOC etc. So although LL never went 4-5 times platinum he did manage to outsale better rappers like Rakim. He got 100% of the interest from his core audience which was generally minority males between the ages of 13-25 or 30 and some of the young girls. This only equalled 1xplatinum because that's all that was feasible. That's how we end up with so many bonafide classics that just went gold like STRICTLY BUSINESS, WE CAN'T BE STOPPED, BACK IN BLACK, ALL FOR ONE, ILLMATIC, OBFCL etc. Now for instance look at Eminem's sales... they're through the roof consistently because he has the backing of the white audience AND some of the minorities. In short LL was a superstar to US even if the rest of the world wasn't paying attention. The rest of the world didn't matter then.
Nahhh... yall tripping. The media are actually doing a great job by not trying to pair them in verzus not to wake shit up again. The respect they got for each other after moment is cool
Jay z ain't no hip hop overlord . You got 90ies artist that can match him in A vZ Scarface icecube snoop Nas Rakim G rap all can match him in a vZ people look at his net worth not his mediocre catalog . Eminem Dmx dead can still rival him and Tupac would smoke him out dead
Can Jay make songs like One Mic If I Ruled The World New York State Of Mind I Can Black Girl Lost Heaven Street Dreams Remix Your Da Man and also most of the songs on Stillmatic? And not to mention, most of the songs on God Son were extremely well done, and Jay can’t even come close to those type of songs either. Also, Life Is Good is an extremely slept on album by Nas too. I thought he did an extremely good job with being innovative with the beats selection on that album, and his lyricism is also on point.
He murdered him once and he'll finish him this time around. It won't happen though. NAS too humble now. He just putting out fire albums one after another tonprove his point.
Nas 20 pact for verzuz: If I ruled the world Hate me now Made you look The world is yours It ain't hard to tell Halftime One love New York State of mind Life's a b**** Street dreams I can It's mine with mobb deep Hot boyz remix verse with Missy Phone tap Verbal intercourse with ghost & Rae Nas is like Live from the BBQ One mic Got yourself a gun Oochie Wally Honorable mentions: the message, rewind, represent, memory lane, blaze a 50, no ideas original, poison.you're da man, death Row east. Affirmative action.eye for an eye,fast life love is all we need, kissing, spicy, funk flex freestyle,DJ clue freestyle
Jay said himself he doesn't look at big pimpin the same way he did in '99 & while he got heavily praised for hard knock life he doesn't think it's in his personal top ten best songs he's ever made you rarely hear Nas says he regrets records he made besides Dr knockboots I've been arguing all week to people who think Nas doesn't have enough hits I'm like he has radio club records street records and introspective records that were hits on the radio what is everyone talking about lol SMH people keep mentioning ether I'm like Nas doesn't have to play ether his catalog alone away from ether is good enough to go against Jay
Jadakiss, Styles & Sheek proved that Verzus is about lyrics, hip hop culture, stage presence, both NaS and Jay-Z have it. I'll give the stage presence edge to Jay-Z, but NaS has the edge in Hip-Hop street game culture, his tracks are made for battles while Jay-Z tracks are made for Clubs and Radio.
People keep saying Busta will just kill anyone in a verses but people are not factoring in the nostalgic factor and aura when it comes to Mr. Nasir Jones. When Nas says a single word that NY crowd is going to go crazy whether its against Jay Z , Busta or who ever. Nas has the overall respect advantage
Nas is hip hop in its purist form. Them commercial hits Jay has can’t fuck with Nas. When it comes to timeless music that matter. Anybody can grab a Timbaland or Pharrell Williams and get them to manufacture a hit. Jay grabs the hottest producers who’s known for making hits for others.
When BIG and Pac got killed the industry got shook and wanted to move away from "Gangsta" rap. That's when they started pushing this radio/club oriented Hip Hop. In reality radio had really just started playing Hip Hop outside the mix show format and usually only on the weekend. When Takeover came out, here in Buffalo, the only "Hip Hop and RnB" station we have played jay -Z entire album while also running Def Jam promotions and give aways. Jay had the entire fall to himself with no response from Nas. In December of that year, Ether dropped and that same radio station was playing Ether like a single but only during mix shows. They still don't play Nas records. The industry chose sides when Nas accused them of Payola which he was right about. Kevin Lyles writes in his book about how Def Jam street teams would tell DJ's and later program directors that if they didn't play there artist so many spends they not getting those exclusive releases and instead they would use the competition. But if they did play those records Def Jam would spend money on ads, artist signings, and promotional concerts.
The reason why the media is trying to overlook *NaS* battling with J is due to the fact that _NaS_ already *ETHERED* him! Therefore, not even J, in his own lines, wants it with NaS! _Y'all see how I flipped the pun on that?_
@@LOAFEMB You obviously don't know rap history. It was annouced on Hot 97 by Angie Martinez with Jay-Z at the studio that he lost and NaS won the Battle with Ether. You need to learn Hip Hop history if you're going to comment what's fact from opinion. Also, Nas's entire Stillmatic album is 5-MICS. You just said another lie because you don't know hip hop history! God forbid if you're so called black and saying this crap!
@@JEDIAL9 I generally do not reply to foolish comments. 1) Don’t question my ethnicity over a song. Makes you sound ignorant. 2) Don’t question my hip hop knowledge because I do not think “Ether” killed Jay-Z. I don’t follow the masses. Now stay blessed and have great life.
@@LOAFEMB That's where you lack wisdom. You're entitled to your opinion. However, the Hip Hop facts made a sound judgment on the matter. Therefore, in the Hip Hop Museum's history, *ETHER* destroyed Jigga. And it was announced across the world. Prime example, on any history class test, you can say whatever you want to say about it, but unless you write the easy question correctly, you're opinionated answer will be marked wrong! That's the facts of life. Nobody cares about a man's feminine qualities of a girl, men don't get emotional like that. We say, *IT IS WHAT IT IS.* That means, your opinion doesn't matter because history recorded it as NaS being the victor and J being the *LOOSER!*
In Verzuz Classics is what matters not necessary hits. Unfortunately JAYZ hit are not really classics. Most of the hits he has, he had help. Even Lauryn Hill can beat JayZ in Verzuz, L Boogie can bring Fugees stuff and MisEducation of Lauryn Hill. The reason why I feel there are plenty of rapper's that are better than JayZ, is if u take Hov best work against Lauryn, Nas, Ye best work. Jay ain't all that.
p.s respectfully he also creates hip hop's 1st love song, without "i need love" there is no "song cry", "21 questions" .....maybe no Ja Rule, or even drake...lol
to coop, resoectfully mike is absolutely right about LL he is hip hop's 1st (solo) superstar, don't let the #s fool you, cool j is a "g2" 2nd generation rapper, he's 16yrs old when his 1st song (i need a beat) is released, with his debut album (radio) following months later in (1985) rap is not then what it is now or even what if became in the 90s there was far less mainstream radio airplay, out here in n,y, we had the awsome two, mr magic, and video music box, that's all, and that 16yr old kid managed to sell 2million copies of a debut album, off of an upstart label with very little exposure, that would easily be comparable to the 5mil that snoop sold, LL only had rick rubin, no dr dre (of NWA fame) no benefit of radio stations dedicated primarily to hip hop as 8well as no mtv airplay etc, even dj clark kent has said it, simply put "LL is the 1st nigga who had everything", looks charisma, high lyrical ability as well as creativity listen to radio put it in it's proper perspective, considering the era as well as his age, he is UNDOUBTEDLY hip hop's 1st solo superstar.
I'm a big Nas fan but I'm a hov fan too but even I can admit in a verses situation hov would be a very tough out for Nas... performance and crowd control goes to hov and that's a big part in a battle.
Simply put. Because he's not as rich as Jay and doesn't have as many commercial hits. Not to mention geniuses just now actually started understanding Nas. Lol
2pac Nas KRS1 Jayz JCOLE music is all SUBJECTIVE! NAS is my favorite word spitter!so again speaking of VERSUS,it's who PERFORMS better that night. Nas and Jay-z said they will not do a VERSUS!
@Aaron9 way better then Magic. We all just knee jerk reactionists and we're happy for Nas but in reality this sounds more like a Nas mixtape then one of his albums
Once u have money people cherish you like you're a God, people do exactly that with Nas and Jay z. Nas is the greatest but people act like Nas is not a match and act like Nas didn't ether Jay z.
Peace Kings... You know why bcuz they think Hov has more radio play and Hits! And they will all be heart broken and sad! It'll literally be like Dipset VERZUZ The Lox... On paper it looks like Jay will win but VERZUZ is so complex that Jay-Z is going to have to bring out everyone to even come close
Drake, Ye and Em would wash Jay in a Versus, simply because it's a Popularity Contest. Nas would have Hip Hop Heads, but how big of a Community is that?
Nas can beat JayZ in a Verzuz! Even Busta Rhymes, Enimem as well. Come outside JayZ- when you think you too big… can always be defeated! Jay Z is boring on stage….. Nas has street anthems…. Nas come out in camouflage gear with the bridge behind.
"Verzuz" started as a "thing" for the everyday radio listeners... It had an old-school flavor to it! The days when listening to the radio was much bigger. So, it is really about your catalog[radio hits]... I consider myself a Hip-hop head! Mike D and Coop sounds like Hip- hop heads... We can have this battle all day! who's better Jay or Nas? I would choose Jay, they would choose Nas... Now, Verzuz has turned into who performs better on stage, who has street hits, etc. Back to the "Catalog" ... It is not even a discussion, Nas numbers is nowhere close to JayZ's Numbers... Again, if I'm sitting in the Barbershop talking Hip-hop. Then we can talk Jay or Nas respectfully, but if I'm listening to the radio in my car, back in the '90s or early 2000s. He is not touching Jay! this is comical...
Fuck hits!! Lyrics are more important,think of how many rappers have come along over the years and sold a lot of records really quick who are not around anymore,then think of rappers who have been around for 30 years and still putting out music on a mainstream level while not catering towards the mainstream
ANYBODY THAT GO AGAINST JAY IN A VS WILL BE EMBARRASSED !! ANYBODY !! JAY IS JAY FOR A REASON HOMIE 🤣...nas got some bangers but he in sided ....jay hit the whole spectrum. Nas know he can't fuck with jay legacy....stop it
Lamont Hill has proven to me that he is a seller and I don't mess with him. The same respect that you show the white community when you're talking to them is the same respect you have to show the black community when you're talking to them. Every since he said to a black guest what are you smoking I lost respect for him it never seen that dude talk to a white guest that way or about white people that way to me he has proven to be a class clown.
If you stick to the understanding of "Versuz" and don't deviate from it, It's about RADIO HITS. Not hood hits, general consensus hits or any other types of hits. In that regards Nas doesn't fit the bill after a certain point. He don't have 20 radio hits to match Hovs. I think if they change the Versuz standard, all the competitions would be different.
If it's 20 songs, than NaS has 8 almost unbeatable tracks on Illmatic alone, than you add IWW, I Am, Stillmatic, God's Son, The Lost Tapes, Street Disciples, HHID, Untitled, Distant Relatives, Life Is Good, KD1&2, Magic, and countless unreleased tracks like Talk of NY, Stillmatic Freestyle, also his verse on Verbal Intercourse, Live at the BBQ, Outlook from Carter IV, etc.
You have to be a lyricist to even comment on skills I'm tired. Of everybody is now a hip hop analyst and have of these people were against hip hop in the beginning the graffiti the break dancing and all it's not just a rap song it's our life!!!!!!!!!!!
Nas did a real life Verzuz already….
@Chubbs Escobar yeah, and he didn't need 20 songs to do it, lol
Look if Nas wasnt so humble, he would be the talk. I think they do that because Nas doesnt be out here talking shit and all that. So many people are Jay D riders
Its insane Nas dropping Grammy award winning album and Grammy nominated album this year plus Magic.... you barely hear it from the hip hop media its disrespectful. Nas vs Jayz is a no brainer Nas hands down.... it's like 2001 all over again Jay was declared the winner and BANG Nas destroyed him
A bill and some change to 70ms ?🤔
14 numbers 1s to like 4?🤔 actual credibility in the street to a fuckin liar?🤔 and the TAKEOVER>ether?🤔 hmm.. idk buddy.. naz=LAAAAAAAAME
@@davidwilliams8822
To me there are 2 tracks, 1 each, that represent both these Hip Hop Monsters main audience; New York State of Mind and Empire State of Mind! Say what you wanna say, but it has always been clear to me that Jay-Z has always been geared towards Club/Radio hits, while NaS has always been about his Art/Culture when laying lyrics and creativity on Tracks, with the pressure from Record companies of having to produce something for the Club/Radio on every album.
"Biggie's Ready to Die album came out several months after Illmatic, and Biggie was crowned king of New York in the popular culture of Hip Hop heads, Ready to Die unfairly over-shadowed Illmatic, which is truly a classic album. Though they were quite distinct artists, they innovated in analogous ways. Biggie merged language that was high and low, vernacular and vocabulary words, in a way that sounded natural. He did this with a sophisticated understanding of the patterns of black language. When a different or unusual word or phrase could be introduced while still maintaining the aesthetics of black language, he inserted it.
NaS, in contrast, merged concepts that were high and low, vernacular and metaphysical, in a manner that was whole rather than pieced together, thus presenting a complex that is unusual in any music outside of jazz. What Biggie started to do with language in 1994, NaS had already begun to do with ideas on Illmatic. He carries us through the "Righteous steps" of the cosmic, oceanic, and literal dimensions of his person. He transcends." - Imany Perry (Born To Use Mics)
Y’all woke me up. Lol. I think NAS is the GOAT
He is.
People really act like Nas ain't got many classics smh... Illmatic & It Was Written are classics from start to finish. So these are about 23 classic tracks alone.
It is important to be objective. I am a huge Nas fan but I will never belittle Jay-Z s contribution to Hip-hop and those who love Jay-Z must stop belittling Nas contributions to Hip-hop. Let us give them their flowers while they are still alive.
To me there are 2 tracks, 1 each, that represent both these Hip Hop Monsters main audience; New York State of Mind and Empire State of Mind! Say what you wanna say, but it has always been clear to me that Jay-Z has always been geared towards Club/Radio hits, while NaS has always been about his Art/Culture when laying lyrics and creativity on Tracks, with the pressure from Record companies of having to produce something for the Club/Radio on every album.
BRUH! The disrespect is flagrant! Nas can play “Dead Presidents” against Jay in a Versuz!! I just think a lot of Jay’s stans are way too young to understand Nas’ impact on Jay!
Real Hov fans are huge Nas fans you can’t help it. Even when they bumped heads and you sided with Jay you still was bumping Stillmatic. I’m speaking from the experience😂🤣 it’s all truth. Peace to both of the Gods but even Hov makes it clear that he has a unique respect for Nas
Because they want Nas feel a way. Bad. But he already won.
They can't forgive him for beating Jay.
No one can stop Nas
People worship Jay Z for his business and money...And they say anything
They really love his 💰
I’m more of a Nas guy, but it seems in hip hop we have to decrease one of the two to increase the other. Both Nas and Jay are pillars of this thing of ours.
Also I blame Vladtv for starting the bs about nas not having good beats.
He a vulture his opinion don’t really count
he did not start it, that shit had been out there for a while mainly because of albums such as I Am, Nastradamus and Street's Disciple.
These are the only three albums you could point to sonically that did not fit well with Nas.
@@johnnyboy7538 those albums beats were good
But JayZ gets a pass for trash ass albums like Magna Carter and Kingdom Come. Them beats were awful on them albums and people still give him a pass. Smh
@@mookdavillan78 bro they are kids influenced by celebrities like Jay Z and Beyonce and they think that they competitive to talk about rap
What's sad about this whole thing is that when you're monied people tend to fake respect you. The media knows J got ethered and Esco is the 🐐 period
Nas wins Respectfully
Good point made at the intro, NAS wins on pure hip hop. I think Jay has more club bangers.
To me there are 2 tracks, 1 each, that represent both these Hip Hop Monsters main audience; New York State of Mind and Empire State of Mind! Say what you wanna say, but it has always been clear to me that Jay-Z has always been geared towards Club/Radio hits, while NaS has always been about his Art/Culture when laying lyrics and creativity on Tracks, with the pressure from Record companies of having to produce something for the Club/Radio on every album.
Nas 🔥🔥🔥 They don’t want another Ether !!!!!
The thing that would piss me off is if Nas and Jay did a verzus they wouldn't do ether or takeover 😒
They don't want him losing twice
I don’t think there is a such thing as the goat because every great artist can do something no other artist can do.
Here we talk about rap artist not about Drake and dance hall and pop shit
Factz they all are inspired by each other there is no top person on earth we all are just people
You didn’t have to move 5 Million units to be a superstar back in 84 !! I have no idea how old you were when LL came out but he was already superstar status when RADIO dropped. KRUSH GROOVE, WILDCATS. By the time his 2nd dropped in 87, he was UNFUCKWITABLE. with that West Coast Heat.
L L COOL J CAN TAKE JAY-Z IN A VERSUS
Doppppe...LL was the man
Mike d and coop. Nas is the goat and to correct coop ,Nas has 15 classic albums
The hate for Esco is real
More like the fear is real
Real hip hop enthusiasts know who Nasiru Oludara, the GOAT is...
Magic is lyrically on the same level as it was written was when it hit us...
Magic is a great album....Wu for the Children is a classic
Nas all day!!!!
Smh. Nas is the greatest of all time. Not even close. Nas is the best emcee ever.
Coop/Mike, this old vid popped up on my timeline so I wanted to add a comment. Mike D states that he thinks LL is the first hip hop Superstar. Coop disagrees and gives the nod to Snoop based on record sales and popularity. I'd just like to say that instead of judging based on total numbers in the 80's we should judge by percentage of THE ACTUAL HIP HOP LISTENING AUDIENCE. Once gangster rap became prominent in the 90's outside consumers made 5 million sales possible. These where nontraditional whites, females etc. In the 80's many females thought rap was aiight but wasn't buying it in droves unless it appealed to them directly. (Salt n Pepper, LL, Kane) They were more RnB oriented. Older blacks actually HATED hip hop. The caucasian audience was extremely limited and only bought into crossover acts like PE, NWA, BEASTIE BOYS, TONE LOC etc. So although LL never went 4-5 times platinum he did manage to outsale better rappers like Rakim. He got 100% of the interest from his core audience which was generally minority males between the ages of 13-25 or 30 and some of the young girls. This only equalled 1xplatinum because that's all that was feasible. That's how we end up with so many bonafide classics that just went gold like STRICTLY BUSINESS, WE CAN'T BE STOPPED, BACK IN BLACK, ALL FOR ONE, ILLMATIC, OBFCL etc. Now for instance look at Eminem's sales... they're through the roof consistently because he has the backing of the white audience AND some of the minorities. In short LL was a superstar to US even if the rest of the world wasn't paying attention. The rest of the world didn't matter then.
Run DMC and JAM MASTER JAY were HIP HOPS 1st SUPER STARS ✨
@Supreme Sun, indeed (group) and LL is hip hop's 1st solo superstar.
Damn I forgot about Kurtis Blow….
He was the Man prior to Run Dmc
Nahhh... yall tripping. The media are actually doing a great job by not trying to pair them in verzus not to wake shit up again. The respect they got for each other after moment is cool
Jay z ain't no hip hop overlord . You got 90ies artist that can match him in A vZ Scarface icecube snoop Nas Rakim G rap all can match him in a vZ people look at his net worth not his mediocre catalog . Eminem Dmx dead can still rival him and Tupac would smoke him out dead
Roc nation has alot of artist ...
for real brutha
Can Jay make songs like
One Mic
If I Ruled The World
New York State Of Mind
I Can
Black Girl Lost
Heaven
Street Dreams Remix
Your Da Man and also most of the songs on Stillmatic?
And not to mention, most of the songs on God Son were extremely well done, and Jay can’t even come close to those type of songs either. Also, Life Is Good is an extremely slept on album by Nas too. I thought he did an extremely good job with being innovative with the beats selection on that album, and his lyricism is also on point.
He murdered him once and he'll finish him this time around. It won't happen though. NAS too humble now. He just putting out fire albums one after another tonprove his point.
Nas 20 pact for verzuz:
If I ruled the world
Hate me now
Made you look
The world is yours
It ain't hard to tell
Halftime
One love
New York State of mind
Life's a b****
Street dreams
I can
It's mine with mobb deep
Hot boyz remix verse with Missy
Phone tap
Verbal intercourse with ghost & Rae
Nas is like
Live from the BBQ
One mic
Got yourself a gun
Oochie Wally
Honorable mentions: the message, rewind, represent, memory lane, blaze a 50, no ideas original, poison.you're da man, death Row east. Affirmative action.eye for an eye,fast life love is all we need, kissing, spicy, funk flex freestyle,DJ clue freestyle
Not to mention Rule, thief’s theme, ultra black,Rewind, undying love. & If he really wanted to just end it early he’d play ether lol
not ochie wally 😅
Hov! will smoke that Nas 20 pact
@@mrapril4th234 what would be your 20 for hov?
@@mphenomenal be around chicks when that song comes on you'll see why I put that lol
Jay said himself he doesn't look at big pimpin the same way he did in '99 & while he got heavily praised for hard knock life he doesn't think it's in his personal top ten best songs he's ever made you rarely hear Nas says he regrets records he made besides Dr knockboots I've been arguing all week to people who think Nas doesn't have enough hits I'm like he has radio club records street records and introspective records that were hits on the radio what is everyone talking about lol SMH people keep mentioning ether I'm like Nas doesn't have to play ether his catalog alone away from ether is good enough to go against Jay
Lil Nas x should be regretted the same hour it was recorded
Versus is not about hit but about moments. Jadakiss can stand Jay
Jadakiss, Styles & Sheek proved that Verzus is about lyrics, hip hop culture, stage presence, both NaS and Jay-Z have it. I'll give the stage presence edge to Jay-Z, but NaS has the edge in Hip-Hop street game culture, his tracks are made for battles while Jay-Z tracks are made for Clubs and Radio.
People keep saying Busta will just kill anyone in a verses but people are not factoring in the nostalgic factor and aura when it comes to Mr. Nasir Jones. When Nas says a single word that NY crowd is going to go crazy whether its against Jay Z , Busta or who ever. Nas has the overall respect advantage
Nas has more love from the hood. Most view Jay as a crossover artist.
Nas undying love will kill Jay backwards with Rewind as a gun who gave him a power
🔥🔥🔥
Nas is hip hop in its purist form. Them commercial hits Jay has can’t fuck with Nas. When it comes to timeless music that matter. Anybody can grab a Timbaland or Pharrell Williams and get them to manufacture a hit. Jay grabs the hottest producers who’s known for making hits for others.
When BIG and Pac got killed the industry got shook and wanted to move away from "Gangsta" rap. That's when they started pushing this radio/club oriented Hip Hop. In reality radio had really just started playing Hip Hop outside the mix show format and usually only on the weekend. When Takeover came out, here in Buffalo, the only "Hip Hop and RnB" station we have played jay -Z entire album while also running Def Jam promotions and give aways. Jay had the entire fall to himself with no response from Nas. In December of that year, Ether dropped and that same radio station was playing Ether like a single but only during mix shows. They still don't play Nas records. The industry chose sides when Nas accused them of Payola which he was right about. Kevin Lyles writes in his book about how Def Jam street teams would tell DJ's and later program directors that if they didn't play there artist so many spends they not getting those exclusive releases and instead they would use the competition. But if they did play those records Def Jam would spend money on ads, artist signings, and promotional concerts.
@Tranz4m yeah, that part.
Play ‘Ether’ so there’s no more to talk about💪
LL and Nas will mop Jay.
True indeed
I don't know if the hosts will see this comparing Nas and Jay-Z, is the equivalent of putting Kenny G next to John Coltrane. I will leave it there.
Mike!!! Mike!!!! Mike!!!!! But Mike!!!!!!
The reason why the media is trying to overlook *NaS* battling with J is due to the fact that _NaS_ already *ETHERED* him! Therefore, not even J, in his own lines, wants it with NaS! _Y'all see how I flipped the pun on that?_
It’s 1 Song in 20 and imho Ether didn’t win but to each his own
@@LOAFEMB You obviously don't know rap history. It was annouced on Hot 97 by Angie Martinez with Jay-Z at the studio that he lost and NaS won the Battle with Ether. You need to learn Hip Hop history if you're going to comment what's fact from opinion. Also, Nas's entire Stillmatic album is 5-MICS. You just said another lie because you don't know hip hop history! God forbid if you're so called black and saying this crap!
@@JEDIAL9 I generally do not reply to foolish comments.
1) Don’t question my ethnicity over a song. Makes you sound ignorant.
2) Don’t question my hip hop knowledge because I do not think “Ether” killed Jay-Z. I don’t follow the masses.
Now stay blessed and have great life.
@@LOAFEMB That's where you lack wisdom. You're entitled to your opinion. However, the Hip Hop facts made a sound judgment on the matter. Therefore, in the Hip Hop Museum's history, *ETHER* destroyed Jigga. And it was announced across the world.
Prime example, on any history class test, you can say whatever you want to say about it, but unless you write the easy question correctly, you're opinionated answer will be marked wrong! That's the facts of life. Nobody cares about a man's feminine qualities of a girl, men don't get emotional like that. We say, *IT IS WHAT IT IS.* That means, your opinion doesn't matter because history recorded it as NaS being the victor and J being the *LOOSER!*
In Verzuz Classics is what matters not necessary hits. Unfortunately JAYZ hit are not really classics. Most of the hits he has, he had help. Even Lauryn Hill can beat JayZ in Verzuz, L Boogie can bring Fugees stuff and MisEducation of Lauryn Hill. The reason why I feel there are plenty of rapper's that are better than JayZ, is if u take Hov best work against Lauryn, Nas, Ye best work. Jay ain't all that.
Jay has b-side concert 1 and b-side concert 2. Thats four hours of b-sides that the audience lost their minds to smh
p.s respectfully he also creates hip hop's 1st love song, without "i need love" there is no "song cry", "21 questions" .....maybe no Ja Rule, or even drake...lol
to coop, resoectfully mike is absolutely right about LL he is hip hop's 1st (solo) superstar, don't let the #s fool you, cool j is a "g2" 2nd generation rapper, he's 16yrs old when his 1st song (i need a beat) is released, with his debut album (radio) following months later in (1985) rap is not then what it is now or even what if became in the 90s there was far less mainstream radio airplay, out here in n,y, we had the awsome two, mr magic, and video music box, that's all, and that 16yr old kid managed to sell 2million copies of a debut album, off of an upstart label with very little exposure, that would easily be comparable to the 5mil that snoop sold, LL only had rick rubin, no dr dre (of NWA fame) no benefit of radio stations dedicated primarily to hip hop as 8well as no mtv airplay etc, even dj clark kent has said it, simply put "LL is the 1st nigga who had everything", looks charisma, high lyrical ability as well as creativity listen to radio put it in it's proper perspective, considering the era as well as his age, he is UNDOUBTEDLY hip hop's 1st solo superstar.
His run really
I'm a big Nas fan but I'm a hov fan too but even I can admit in a verses situation hov would be a very tough out for Nas... performance and crowd control goes to hov and that's a big part in a battle.
If its in New York I dont see why you think Jay would automatically have crowd control
Nasty will made Em look
Jay could play all his club tracks he gon need em cause he gone be fearing ether and the crowd will lose their shit for it no doubt.
What r we talking about here?? Let me make this CLEAR... no one can beat JAY in a VERSUS!
Simply put. Because he's not as rich as Jay and doesn't have as many commercial hits. Not to mention geniuses just now actually started understanding Nas. Lol
They never heard Ether.
Most media are either try hards or trend hoppers who have no genuine connection to the music.
I love both Nas & Jay but I think Jay will win as the better performer. People excluding Nas as a worthy contender is why he released Magic.
Oh hell yeah Vlad really pushed the narrative where you got fans tht didn't even listen to a Nas album judging it by beats
Jay’s stage presence is cheeks, all he does is stand there rapp’n and run back stage to change outfits 😂
@@VANGUARDIANTV100 hate and lies are ugly
Why do yall think Jay is the better performer, especially in a nonarena setting smaller setting?
Why do u keep bringing up Death Row East? Lol it's a dope record but it's not going to go in a Verzuz battle
He's been using it to imply Jay Z is afraid of Suge Knight. Why idk
They just scared that Nas going blaze off the either that's all .
Now sit back watch it come up and somebody take credit for it. Lol
One mic
Destroy and rebuild
I gave you power
REWIND
Shoot outs
Live n.... rap
My state of mind 1/2
It ain't hard to tell
Poison
Etc
Jay has them in his pocket. Money and power talks. Why is this even a question. It is the oldest game in the book.
If Nas spit ether the battle over
That's what I'M sayin.
It's just because Nas don't have as many crossover hits than Jay Z.
We need to stop running from Jay vs Em. Lol
Ether. Period!
All I'm saying is Jay bet not call Nas out.
Leave Nas alone that's ball I'm saying.
2pac Nas KRS1 Jayz JCOLE music is all SUBJECTIVE! NAS is my favorite word spitter!so again speaking of VERSUS,it's who PERFORMS better that night. Nas and Jay-z said they will not do a VERSUS!
Because they heard albums like Life Is Good and there like this, Magic was what you consider better? Really...
@Aaron9 way better then Magic. We all just knee jerk reactionists and we're happy for Nas but in reality this sounds more like a Nas mixtape then one of his albums
4:44 is 5 years old
Why do people sleep on Life is Good?
Once u have money people cherish you like you're a God, people do exactly that with Nas and Jay z. Nas is the greatest but people act like Nas is not a match and act like Nas didn't ether Jay z.
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Idc about radio hits , the radio don’t represent the culture it actually does the opposite if u 40 and u ain’t falling for radio hits
And I’ll Add Jay Z can pop all that slick talk and It sounds good..however Nas has the most Righteous bars and that’s a different level
Nas out here dropping back to back albums Jay Z haven't dropped a album since 4:44🤷🏿♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Peace Kings... You know why bcuz they think Hov has more radio play and Hits! And they will all be heart broken and sad! It'll literally be like Dipset VERZUZ The Lox... On paper it looks like Jay will win but VERZUZ is so complex that Jay-Z is going to have to bring out everyone to even come close
Grammy family freestyle wtf is that? Lol
I hope he doesn’t play that type of freestyle
Drake, Ye and Em would wash Jay in a Versus, simply because it's a Popularity Contest.
Nas would have Hip Hop Heads, but how big of a Community is that?
You know mostly hip hop heads showing up to a Nas n Jay verzuz not pop fans
Nas can beat JayZ in a Verzuz! Even Busta Rhymes, Enimem as well. Come outside JayZ- when you think you too big… can always be defeated! Jay Z is boring on stage….. Nas has street anthems…. Nas come out in camouflage gear with the bridge behind.
Nas and Jay would be competitive. I think it would come down to performance in that format. Busta would kill both on stage.
Ether part 2
Yall hating...Kanye wasn't Kanye till Hov got on his shyt.
Like they forgot wat happen before lol
"Verzuz" started as a "thing" for the everyday radio listeners... It had an old-school flavor to it! The days when listening to the radio was much bigger. So, it is really about your catalog[radio hits]... I consider myself a Hip-hop head! Mike D and Coop sounds like Hip- hop heads... We can have this battle all day! who's better Jay or Nas? I would choose Jay, they would choose Nas... Now, Verzuz has turned into who performs better on stage, who has street hits, etc. Back to the "Catalog" ... It is not even a discussion, Nas numbers is nowhere close to JayZ's Numbers... Again, if I'm sitting in the Barbershop talking Hip-hop. Then we can talk Jay or Nas respectfully, but if I'm listening to the radio in my car, back in the '90s or early 2000s. He is not touching Jay! this is comical...
Jay z had to become an entire billionaire in order to be compared to Nas...
Just start playing Ether
If Nas beat Jay z it will destroy his whole gangster all over again. Nas is Hip Hop. Put that nigga alone no mr west no Beyoncé and see what happens.
Nas would reck that shit he has a huge fan base and of course in the end they will do it they just letting y’all build it up
Fuck hits!! Lyrics are more important,think of how many rappers have come along over the years and sold a lot of records really quick who are not around anymore,then think of rappers who have been around for 30 years and still putting out music on a mainstream level while not catering towards the mainstream
I'm a huge NaS fan and I'm not sure if he could pull it off. With that said he's the only on that stands a chance. And it needs to happen !!!
ANYBODY THAT GO AGAINST JAY IN A VS WILL BE EMBARRASSED !! ANYBODY !! JAY IS JAY FOR A REASON HOMIE 🤣...nas got some bangers but he in sided ....jay hit the whole spectrum. Nas know he can't fuck with jay legacy....stop it
Pink shirt isn’t the best conversationalist. Alot of interruptions.
Jay-Z is the ONE greatest mc you will EVER HEAR
just bars nas and em would be good. yall keep disrespecting em is a shame
Lamont Hill has proven to me that he is a seller and I don't mess with him. The same respect that you show the white community when you're talking to them is the same respect you have to show the black community when you're talking to them. Every since he said to a black guest what are you smoking I lost respect for him it never seen that dude talk to a white guest that way or about white people that way to me he has proven to be a class clown.
If you stick to the understanding of "Versuz" and don't deviate from it, It's about RADIO HITS. Not hood hits, general consensus hits or any other types of hits. In that regards Nas doesn't fit the bill after a certain point. He don't have 20 radio hits to match Hovs. I think if they change the Versuz standard, all the competitions would be different.
Lol smh 🤦♂️
U haven't seen what the lox did to .. nevermind
@@bridgethegappodcast5552 lol, yeah i seen that. THAT was a 1 off. It had to be done.
The LOX murdered all swag radio hits Dipset on verzus with straight up lyricism.
If it's 20 songs, than NaS has 8 almost unbeatable tracks on Illmatic alone, than you add IWW, I Am, Stillmatic, God's Son, The Lost Tapes, Street Disciples, HHID, Untitled, Distant Relatives, Life Is Good, KD1&2, Magic, and countless unreleased tracks like Talk of NY, Stillmatic Freestyle, also his verse on Verbal Intercourse, Live at the BBQ, Outlook from Carter IV, etc.
And Jay Z is not pure hip hop 🤔
Jay lost with just the internet votes already..sheeesh
Because hes no wtf?? LOLOL Aside from maybe Em no one can touch Jay in a Verzuz get real..
Nas have 15 or 16 classic album stop bruhs
Cuz these dorks in the media made it where jay z is untouchable and nas is way better then jay imo
You have to be a lyricist to even comment on skills I'm tired. Of everybody is now a hip hop analyst and have of these people were against hip hop in the beginning the graffiti the break dancing and all it's not just a rap song it's our life!!!!!!!!!!!
Half of these people
Coop u don’t have to be a Jay Z hater to like Nas. That’s how u come across. And stop over talking your cohost.