B-30 and B-30U AK handguards: review, how to install
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- B-30 and B-30U handguards are designed for AK and rifles based on AK (Saiga, WASR10, Arsenal SLR 104,106,107, Tantal). Will tell about their differences, compatibility, weight, will install on rifle and discuss questions of reliability.
Products can be ordered here or in partner stores:
B-30: en.zenitco.ru/...
B-30U: en.zenitco.ru/...
B-31: en.zenitco.ru/...
B-31S: en.zenitco.ru/...
B-31N: en.zenitco.ru/...
Video about Basis accessories: • Accessories for Zenitc...
Video with handguards tests: • How NOT to destroy AK-...
Disclaimer: this video demonstrates only lighting devices and rails. Shooting is conducted on training targets by professionals. The materiel is educational (for military, security professionals, shooting sports enthusiasts). Do not repeat that yourself! All work on firearms should be carried out by licenced individuals. We will not be held liable for any injury to yourself or damage to your firearms resulting from attempting shown anything in our videos. We are NOT a gun shop and DO NOT sell firearms.
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AK, the only gun that requires a hammer to install accessories, what a tough platform.
And a sickle
@@ORIGINZZ__brooooooooo
I almost started grinding away at the b30's cup for the retainer plate. Then I got lazy and hammered it in with a chopstick haha glad I got lazy, turned out to be the right way.
I have the B-30 on my AK103 clone. It is rather light for its size. Only complaint is that it is sharp so I would recommend adding a handgurard cover to protect your hand. It is a fantastic piece of kit. I waited 3 years to get both the upper and lower handguards as they aren't the easiest thing to get in the US. It easily holds a tactical light and forward grip and is not hot after shooting two full 30 round magazines. Side note: these are a little difficult to install but can be put on with a rubber mallet to tap it into the receiver. Also loctite is your friend.
Zenitco furniture on an AK is sexy as hell
I've been laughing so much how differend installing parts is.
On your AR: Screw the thing and use bolts.
On AK in russia: Hammer this hammer that doesnt fit? Hammer it harder. Fits? Double check it with hammer. Seems like engine repairment of Jeremy Clarkson :D
Anastasia, can you do video on your muzzle devices? And maybe one of you covering the PKP upgrades 😍
Yes, surely. Muzzle brakes video is a great idea. And the one with PKP and PKM upgrades is in nearest plans 🙂
@@ZenitcoinEnglish Sposibo bolshoe
@@ZenitcoinEnglish I just ordered b-30U and b-31s handguards,should I use locktite on the 4 screws that connects the two parts together?
Amazing Video! Very helpful!! Anastasia is very knowledgeable-
Dear Anastasia! I have an AK47 with a milled holster. I want to put a B30 handguard on it. How can I solve it? Which handguard can be converted to fit my AK47 with a milled holster?
Thanks Mikhael
Can you do a video showing how to put a B-21M handguard on a Vityaz. I'm trying to do it but have a lot of trouble with the handguard retainer lever.
Ok, we will do a video. The most common reason for the lever not to close is that the handguard is not hit in enough. It is needed to be hammered in a bit more.
I just received my B21U and am having the same issue. However I also don’t want to damage the receiver by pounding the hand guard in any more than I have.. it seems to be snagging on just the corners of the receiver. I have a KP9 should I just keep smacking it?
I purchased both the lower and upper hand guards for my Saiga 7.61x39. The lower handguard did not fit into the receiver AT ALL (in your video you chose an AK that shows it fitting perfectly into the receiver). I had to hammer the handguard into the receiver. It did not go in perfectly straight as I found out later. I also had trouble with the handguard retainer clip going in...... overall, the handguards do look great, but I can’t put any optics on them because they are not completely straight. I can zero them and shoot only at a that particular distance. For me they are only good for a flashlight, or a forward handle and obviously more real estate for my hand to work with. Plus they do look great. But.... can’t use optics on this rail system.........
Not everyone has straight hands. Its ok bud. Next time have an ak gunsmith handle that for you.
5:52. I love the quick pose lol.
I want a b-30 so bad, RK-6 foregrip and a rk-3 pistol grip, I'm gonna gamble some beans to order em from R/T, don't get me wrong I like the sport 1 kit I own it's slick, lightweight handguard, but I want my cleaning rod back
Order from akstuff. Pricey but he's in the states so the stuff passed customs
Great video, do you guys have any idea when Russian post might start shipping out to the US again? I'm waiting for my PT-1 stock and it's caught in the Russian Post.
i bought an RP1 in March and got it yesterday. your part is likely waiting on US approval to enter customs
@@robscott4346 Russian thunder told me last week that it was still in Russia, so I hope it will leave soon or has already left. Edit: shipping information updated today, it's in NY hooray I can't wait.
I order my in April now is November so far nothing.
@@leojiusurf Hmmmm, that's concerning since I ordered mine a few days.
@@vaunkillion262 good luck man
is this furniture compatible with Yugo firearms? (M70 zpap)
Not without heavy modification
Aztal what would be the modification. Asking for a friend
@@robscott4346 hey i dont have the exact firearm but i had to almost completely shave down part with an angle grinder... look at the difference between your current and go off of there... or take it to a gunsmith
Phantom Vlogs thanks, I was serious though when I said asking for a friend haha
@@robscott4346 well tell them good luck because thos this stuff is a pain to file down (but worth)
hopefully you can answer this question: I am having tons of trouble hammering my lower handguard in. The lower handguard retainer is a very tight fit, even without any handguard in - and also, the trunion seems to be interfering with where the handguard goes into the receiver. Is this typical? my ak is a riley defense RAK47. I am debating grinding away a bit of the handguard where its hitting the trunion. As for the lower handguard retainer, it being so tight is making it very difficult to hammer down with the handguard in place. I have seen other videos where it seems to just slip right down with no effort...
Hello Zenitco. I was wondering, Izhmash Saiga rifles, notably the MK family (i got an MK 103 myself) got a folding stock safety mechanism that prevents the weapon from firing when the stock is folded, apparently it's mandatory in Russia. Does said mechanism prevents the installation of one of your stock ? Thanks.
In Russia it is restricted for civilians to shoot with folded stock. We took that into account while designing our stocks. We have 5 types of adapters for stocks. One of them is for civilian saiga. It has a slot so this mechanism could work. Next video will be about stocks, so we will cover that topic! An adapter is in the kit, while making an order the user specifies which one is needed.
Anastasia your accent is so cute! Loved the video
Does anybody know if the available side rails like the B2 are picitinany or weaver? I've seen the same part numbers advertised both ways, but that's two different systems and I'd like to figure out before I order. Thanks.
Are you delivering to the US with current situations?
When will the Gen 2 b30 and Gen 2 b31 be available to purchase from your site?
When i install the rail, the front sight of my ak 105 pushes against the inside of the handguard making the entire rail unaligned by a few millimeters. Is this normal?
With the war never ending I can’t buy from website.. sad.
will there ever be furniture made for serbian/yugo AK pattern rifles like the zpap m70?
Do I need to have a handguard retainer for this to work??
Yes
FANTASTIC
Maybe someone here can answer a question for me. I have a B-30 rail already installed and I definitely got the rail hammered all the way in. I want to install a front sight gas block and I assume to do that the rail will have to be removed so the gas block can be replaced so I have two questions:
1) How difficult will it be to remove the B-30?
2) if I remove the rail will I able to reinstall it snugly?
1) It is not difficult. You open the lever on handguard retainer. And you hammer the handguard out. You may insert some sort of metal rod in an opening closer to the receiver and hammer it. You may place a spacer on the ledge on the end of the handguard and hammer it.
2) Yes, you’ll be able to do that on the same rifle (it may not on different rifle). It took the shape of your rifle, so it is perfect for it. It will be easier to install it the second time as it is already shaped for your receiver.
@@ZenitcoinEnglish awesome thanks for your reply that is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you
Another reason why I love AK platform, beat it in with a hammer lol
Is there enough room on the front section of the B-31S to fit a perst-4 behind the front sight of a ak105?
Can I get a b-31 for my ak that’s going to have a 13 inch barrel or do I have to get the b31-s?
B-31S is needed
So i have a Saiga AK-74 and it doesn't have a handguard retainer, will this work if I use a bolt on retainer or do i need to figure out how get a standard retainer on my rifle? Thank you, your gear looks great
Our handguards are designed for regular handguard retainer
@@ZenitcoinEnglish ok thank you for your response.
Will any handguard work with the Zastava Pap M85 NP
Is there possibility for cleaning rod storage with this handguard?
Yes
Is this handguard usable on the century arms bft47
My hand guard seems shifted to the right ever so slightly.. if I look down the irons, the rail on the b31s seems off to the right by 1mm. Could I have damaged the rail or receiver? I really had to hammer the sh*t out of it to get the b30u to fully seat. Especially the hand guard retainer.
Please send us photos.
Nice, now how do you remove the handguard?
Open the lock on the handguard retainer, hit the handguard out with a hammer. Do not hit directly, use a spacer.
You know it's russian when you need a fcking *HAMMER*...I'm in love with this thought
When you disassembly do the optics lose zero point?
Will this kit fit on Kr-103 from Kalashnikov USA
Yes
@@ZenitcoinEnglish thanks!!
Had a question can these handguard uninstalled from a old gun and reinstalled to a different gun ?
Yes and no. All rifles have slightly different sizes. When you install a handguard, you hammer it into the rifle. The handguard takes the shape of this exact rifle. If the mounting place of the new rifle is bigger than on the previous rifle - it will wobble. If it is the same or smaller - it will be ok. The only way to find out is to try.
Hi guys. Can i use B-30U rail without upper handguard? I mean with the basic AK upper grip and pipe.
That setup option is not recommended. It is possible, but as far as AK has regular slingmount, B-30U has a groove for it. The power contour is weakened here. It is absolutely ok to use short handguards without upper part. For longer ones we recommend to use them with upper handguards to strengthen this place. So you can use it on its own. But for better reliability use upper part.
Hi, I have a friend that is convinced a B-30 rail will fit on an AKS-74U, I believe that its not possible.
Could someone confirm or deny that a B-30 will/wont fit on an AKS-74U?
It will not fit on AKS-74U.
Will these Handguards work without the Handguard retainer
No
Hey there, it is possible that your company will bring a hand guard who fits to the SR-1 rifle?
Thanks in advance
No
@@ZenitcoinEnglish thank you
What handguards are compatible with Yugo pattern AKs?
Currently none of them. But we are working on design of compatible ones
What’s the difference between the B-30 and the Sport 4 kit?
1) Length: Sport-4 is longer than combination of B-30 and B-31.
2) Rails: Sport-4 has Basis rails on 3 sides and lowered Picatinny on top. B-30 has full-size Picatinny on 3 sides. And B-31 has full-size Picatinny on top. However, this option allows lowered Picatinny on top as well, is you use B-31N instead of B-31.
3) In case of Sport-4 lowered handguard consists of two pieces: handguard and front additional attachment. B-30 is a one-piece product.
How to order
what is that diagonale attachement connecting AK iron sights with the picatinny b30 Handguard ?
Do you mean the place where B-33 dust cover is connected to B-30 handguard? Our B-33 dust cover is installed on our handguards.
@@ZenitcoinEnglish exactly just saw it when watching the video suppose it enhancing zeroing on dustcover picatinny
I kinda wish they weren't so heavy. A 13 lb ak74. Or vepr. Is just unbearable. Can you guys make poylmer handguards or something lightweight metal more?
Their B-30U and similar handguards are actually really lightweight. Not much heavier than the RS Regulate handguard, which is ridiculously lightweight.
@@Howjadoo22 not as light weight as poylmer
@@woahdude3853 If you factor in your heat shield, and the fact that these are twice as long as normal polymer ones, these are great
@@Howjadoo22 I'd be curious to weigh mine and compare against zenitco ones. I'm running fab defense mlok handguards rn
@@Howjadoo22 I'm always open to new things
will the b30 fit on a sam7sf?
Is there any fitting issues with aks that have underfolder stocks?
No fitting issues
She should do videos with vlad onokoy from kalashnikov
What handguards would I use for a WASR-10?
B-10M, B-10U, B-10L, B-30, B-30U, Sport-1, Sport-4, Leader kit (coming soon)
@@ZenitcoinEnglish Спасибо
Do you have any hand guards that work with Zastava ZPAP M85??
No
What’s the longest upper hand guard that fits B-30u lower hand guard ?
B-31. Also B-32 rail - that is extra long both above the gas tube and receiver
@@ZenitcoinEnglish do you have a video explaining all the upper hand guards ? What’s the difference between B-31N , B-31L
Currently no video. There is explanation in our IG post, see English description under the photo: instagram.com/p/CLPAqs8Ljen/
Mama kalash anyone?
do you deliver in Romania?
Yes
@@ZenitcoinEnglish even nowadays??
Does hammering the handguard cap damage it?
Yes
Super!👍👏
Do any of these product fit VEPR rifles?..
From this video - no. But we have separate line of handguards for Vepr and RPK-based rifles. That are Sport-6 kit, B-20U handguard, B-20L handguard and B-19RPK upper handguard. See more in this video: th-cam.com/video/oFLlbunrBXI/w-d-xo.html
@@ZenitcoinEnglish Thank you
The best marketing slogan is by far "our kit is well built so it saved lives". Other companies should take notes.
Do they fit in the VSKA Century Arms Ak47
Yes
@@ZenitcoinEnglish do orders get verified before putting credit card information?
What are typical shipping times from partner stores in RU to US
It is difficult to say exactly right now because COVID lockdowns caused the increase of shipping time and of delivery services. May vary from couple of weeks to several months.
“AK Stuff” had these handguards in stock last I checked. It’s a Ukrainian guy who has a resale business in New Jersey.
I ordered July 13th and got my stuff today
@@antoniotinoco7328 45 days total shipping for me
Would these fit on a Sam7SF with the hammer method
As far as it is a milled AK, it is not compatible without mods
@@ZenitcoinEnglish After 1 hour and 45 minutes of metal filing by hand I managed to get the B-30 on my SAM7SF-84E
@@Iamkitkatbar Do you have any pics ?
Does it fit on tokyo marui ak 74n?
you would have to find out if your AK fits standard AK furniture
which one should I get for zastava m70
Our rails are not compatible with Zastava
@@ZenitcoinEnglish ever if you pile it?
We speak about out of the box compatibility. It is not designed for zastava. And filing is restricted as far as handguard should fit tight.
@@joseph4333 Zastava sells their own MLOK handguard you can buy online
Hey guys, I sent emails with a question about B-10M compatibility 2 weeks ago to info@zenitco.ru and zenit@zenitco.ru but unfortunately no reaction so far? Will B-10M fit chinese made SDM Type56? I think that´s formerly Norinco, but not sure. Thank you.
Hello. No, B-10M does not fit Chinese AK
Mmh, unfortunate :-( . But thanks for the answer
do you have anything that will fit a milled Chinese norinco
@@zakarisanchez999 No
Does this work on airsoft
No
do you have a kit for zastava m70ab2
No
5:20 (hammering sounds)
“I see a red door and I wanted painted black….. no colors anymore I want them to turn B L A C K.
Excellent information, thank you. I would love to do business with your company.
Alalominum..lol
That's a new element😳
Can you do a mud test?
Maybe someday. Winter now in Russia: no mud, just snow and ice 😬
@@ZenitcoinEnglish Thanks, I will wait for it.
What exactly is that tool called that you call a metal spacer? Lol
I used a drift punch. However, other things can be used as spacer, like pliers or an upper part of another hammer. That’s a question of creativity 🤔
I dodnt listen to a single word she said....still good video 😅
simp.
It is unfortunate we can't buy these quality items anymore. It is hard to believe we've got to be able to buy gun parts, bullets and even other weapons from Russia. And also, exchange training techniques, etc. Look at us now
6:17
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You are beautifull too
Can I use zenitco hand guards on the KUSA’s k-103
Will these work on a vepr 7.62x39 that's converted to fit AK handguards? It still has the thicker barrel and receiver... But it fits standard handguard/gas tube.
Doesn't interact with the barrel at all, so prooobably?
What do you mean by spacer?
A punch tool?
Yes. Or smth else depending on your creativity.
do you use locktite to install the screws
You may use loctite. However in that experiment in the end of the video we did not use it.