Over 250 and below 400 requires certification, RID, and a waiver if you’re doing ops over people or moving vehicles. Using the non plus battery as DJI reportedly says is required, supposedly doesn’t activate the RID. If that’s true then standard battery and prop guards is over 250 and requires RID and registration just to fly so you would then need to add an RID module BUT since the aircraft is equipped with RID and the pilot is not allowed to disable it in an over 250 drone, there is quite a mess to deal with.
@@barrybegley5379 yeah it does put over limit. I have my 107 so it does not matter to me. Weight Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams Plus battery - 121 grams Scan Disk - 0.26 grams Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams. 171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) = Take off weight - 376.93 grams / 0.831 lbs
I was kind of reluctant at first. But I was extremely impressed with the DJI MINI 4 Pro and how it performed with them on it. I can see a lot of different applications where I can use them. I did not test on a very windy day, but I will definitely do another test when I have a chance and when we have some good winds. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@StrivingMen to me it’s really close to the same. It’s actually really good! The mini for Pro camera is a little better the Avata 2 uses the Dji Action 4 camera but same size sensor as the M4 Pro.
I bought a bough a year and half ago, it’s a pain fitting, however during strong wind One set of prop got damaged by rubbing at guards , be careful. 2ndly mini 4 pro detect prop fitted and obstacles avoidance sensors go off it self.
@@nardesh127 yeah I have not used other than my test. But i am going to be testing this on stronger winds and so see how it goes. Yep on the AO being off when they are on. Thanks for commenting
When I ordered my mini 4 pro, I got some guards. Have not tried them yet, but seeing your video, I might put them on and learn to fly my drone inside or shooting under trees canopies. Good vid bud.
With the plus battery the system is over 250 grams (0.55#) and requires registration to fly and a waiver to fly over people. With the standard battery and prop guards it is over 250 grams and requires registration and a waiver. ANY of the DJI mini series with prop guards requires registration and for ops over people, a waiver. I’m part 107 as well as manned (part 61) pilot.
Back in the days, with the release of the mavic mini, first mini, in the fly more combo, we found the same guard propelers ! I will see if i can put it on my mini 4 pro. From France 🇨🇵
I was impressed with the M4P and how it preformed with these on it. It was not a super windy day but Ill test that later when I have a chance. Thanks for watching commenting.
since your only using them in a confined area (like a house) and moving pretty slow for your recordings... maybe you could strategically remove some of the guard braces to reduce the weight without losing too much strength of the cage? still accomplishes the goal cat 1, and gain a little more flight time.
I wish the prop guards werent necessary for a 107 flying over people. you're flying a good distance on top of people anyway, if your drone fails or flips over, the props would shut down regardless
One thing is not clear to me. They said that one of the features of this drone is that it has 360 degree protection from all sides. So why do we need the prop guard?
Rule of the FAA flying over people when you have a drone with exposed rotating parts. The Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Operations Over People rule, which went into effect on April 21, 2021, allows drone pilots to fly over people and moving vehicles under certain conditions. The rule's ability to fly over people depends on the level of risk the drone poses to people on the ground. The rule also allows night operations under certain conditions if pilots complete training or pass knowledge tests. Here are some of the requirements for flying a drone over people under the FAA's Operations Over People rule: Category 1 Drones can fly over groups of people outdoors if they weigh 0.55 pounds or less, including everything attached to the drone, and don't have exposed rotating parts that could cause lacerations. Category 1 drones must also be Remote ID compliant.
Another great idea for adding an obvious extra safety feature to the drone, rendered entirely not worth doing because it takes weight over 250g. See also 'Nav lights' ! They need to fix that law so that small additions over the limit that are evidently adding safety features are permitted. Of course they won't, but it seems like an obvious and sensible thing to do if drone laws are actually about safety, as they continue to claim.
Well DJI M4P with Plus battery and prop guard weight is at 250g. So when I learned that I was very happy. You still need a wavier and I was going to test that but they want you to do it in 90 days before event. I thought that was ridiculous so I will definitely have to test that waiver when I have an event that far out that I know. I feel once you have your 107 and your drone is registered like mine has always been and you list what it has and the current weight. I don’t understand once you’re in the system. Why can’t they just do the waiver like they do with ALOF. I did receive the following from ALOF and it looks very promising if you’re an enterprise. I skimmed over but I need to read it more in detail and test this waiver process. But it looks like they have streamed line this process if this is true, this will be awesome. www.aloft.ai/blog/aloft-introduces-automated-sgi-waivers-in-aloft-air-control-streamlining-access-to-restricted-airspaces/
@@JandE-TEX-DRONES That' can't be right. There is no way on earth that prop guard weighs les than a gram ! Even the the text on the DJI listing for the item warns it takes the M4P overweight, and we know plus batteries do too, so I don't know why you are thinking that any drone with both could possibly be only 250g !
@@Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay your right that was totally wrong. I am not sure where I got those numbers so here are the numbers break down. Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams Plus battery - 121 grams Scan Disk - 0.26 grams Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams. 171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) = 376.93 grams = 0.831 pound Take off weight - 376.93
Thanks for the demonstration, John. I need to order a set, as I have a request from a fellow classmate to fly my drone over our 60-year HS reunion picnic. So this way, I'll be legal and not have to worry about flying over people and injuring anyone if I happen to get too close. And yes, I'm sure they will be easier to put on the second time. I remember my frustration installing the prop guards on my Mavic Mini the first time. Good video, John.
Thank you sir! Yes I do like them alot. This is also why I wanted them is to fly over people. I also researched to see the weight of myDJI M4P with a plus battery and the prop guards. Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams Plus battery - 121 grams Scan Disk - 0.26 grams Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams. 171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) = 376.93 grams = 0.831 pound Take off weight - 376.93 With that said I believe I still have to get a wavier but the FAA wanted 90 days before event. But I just received an email from ALOFT to streamline the waiver process. I have not gone through this process yet or tested it. That’s something. I definitely want to test here is the link that you can read about it. Aloft Webinar Replay: SGI Waivers in Air Control. Here is link. mailchi.mp/a36310b6d40e/aloft-webinar-streamline-sgi-waivers-in-air-control-1678403?e=665f553807
@@JandE-TEX-DRONES I have my 107 as well. And if you’re over 250 grams part 107 prohibits operations over people and moving vehicles. Both can be waived but if you’re over 250 you need a waiver. I was going to buy the mini 4 and waiver it with the standard battery, guards, and anti collision light which is what brought me here. However, I just found out they’ve disabled RID with the standard battery installed (and haven’t seen that that has changed) so it would then also need an RID module and I’m just not going to do that. But yeah, I’m positive the 107 alone doesn’t allow OOP if you’re over 250. You need a waiver.
Yes it does. Weight Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams Plus battery - 121 grams Scan Disk - 0.26 grams Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams. 171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) = Take off weight - 376.93 grams / 0.831 lbs
Bought a set then weighed drone and it’s close to 350 grams requiring registration as category 2.
Over 250 and below 400 requires certification, RID, and a waiver if you’re doing ops over people or moving vehicles.
Using the non plus battery as DJI reportedly says is required, supposedly doesn’t activate the RID.
If that’s true then standard battery and prop guards is over 250 and requires RID and registration just to fly so you would then need to add an RID module BUT since the aircraft is equipped with RID and the pilot is not allowed to disable it in an over 250 drone, there is quite a mess to deal with.
For those Pilots without as U.S. part-107 license or in Canada a Basic Certificate utilizing the
@@barrybegley5379 yeah it does put over limit. I have my 107 so it does not matter to me.
Weight
Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams
Plus battery - 121 grams
Scan Disk - 0.26 grams
Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams.
171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) =
Take off weight - 376.93 grams / 0.831 lbs
exactly what I was thinking
Very much appreciated video. I need to get a set of Prop Guards for my Mini 4 Pro in the event I need to use them. 🙏
I was kind of reluctant at first. But I was extremely impressed with the DJI MINI 4 Pro and how it performed with them on it. I can see a lot of different applications where I can use them. I did not test on a very windy day, but I will definitely do another test when I have a chance and when we have some good winds. Thanks for commenting and watching!
Thank you again for this information. I really will be getting propeller guards now! And thanks especially for the tip about the battery!
@@VonnieGemini your welcome! Thanks for commenting and watching!
I think tha the Avatar comes with the prop guards already install. Is much smaller and the camera is probably the same.
Yes I so agree. I have the Avata 2 and when I saw it I knew its a lot better for indoors.
@ is the cámara of the avata 2 better , worse or the same as the one in the Mini 4 ?
@StrivingMen to me it’s really close to the same. It’s actually really good!
The mini for Pro camera is a little better the Avata 2 uses the Dji Action 4 camera but same size sensor as the M4 Pro.
Thanks for clarifying. I just ordered the drone and the guards.
Glad I could help
I also have a set of these also but I’ve never even tried em on. But at least I do have em .
Yes ever since I got the Avata 2 I dont use them.
Could you try with wind, to see the performance??!?
Yes it is on my list to do.
I bought a bough a year and half ago, it’s a pain fitting, however during strong wind One set of prop got damaged by rubbing at guards , be careful. 2ndly mini 4 pro detect prop fitted and obstacles avoidance sensors go off it self.
@@nardesh127 yeah I have not used other than my test. But i am going to be testing this on stronger winds and so see how it goes. Yep on the AO being off when they are on. Thanks for commenting
When I ordered my mini 4 pro, I got some guards. Have not tried them yet, but seeing your video, I might put them on and learn to fly my drone inside or shooting under trees canopies.
Good vid bud.
Thank you! Put them on and fly around even outside. They do work great! Thank for watching and commenting!
Be advised though, installing prop guards disables obstacle avoidance.
@gama45 yep! I said this in video and showed this as I went against my truck. Also when you put them on its on screen on the RC 2 controller.
With the plus battery the system is over 250 grams (0.55#) and requires registration to fly and a waiver to fly over people.
With the standard battery and prop guards it is over 250 grams and requires registration and a waiver.
ANY of the DJI mini series with prop guards requires registration and for ops over people, a waiver.
I’m part 107 as well as manned (part 61) pilot.
Back in the days, with the release of the mavic mini, first mini, in the fly more combo, we found the same guard propelers !
I will see if i can put it on my mini 4 pro.
From France 🇨🇵
I was impressed with the M4P and how it preformed with these on it. It was not a super windy day but Ill test that later when I have a chance. Thanks for watching commenting.
super!! Question did this guards work with the optical avoidance on?
No, when you have the guards on optical avoidance automatically shuts off.
Thank You for your answer
since your only using them in a confined area (like a house) and moving pretty slow for your recordings... maybe you could strategically remove some of the guard braces to reduce the weight without losing too much strength of the cage? still accomplishes the goal cat 1, and gain a little more flight time.
You know I did wonder about this but I did not want to mess them up and throw the weight and balance off. Thanks for commenting and watching!
Nice video thanks
Thank you!
is that compatible with DJI mini 3?
No they are not.
I wish the prop guards werent necessary for a 107 flying over people. you're flying a good distance on top of people anyway, if your drone fails or flips over, the props would shut down regardless
does anyone notice when you use the guards do you still have the sensors on the mini 4 dji?
@@great7939 no when you put the guards on it, disables automatically the optical avoidance.
Thank you sooooo much for answering. I thought it was me. It was not picking anymore when i put the guards. I am one of the very new.😊😊😊😊
You’re welcome!!
One thing is not clear to me. They said that one of the features of this drone is that it has 360 degree protection from all sides. So why do we need the prop guard?
Rule of the FAA flying over people when you have a drone with exposed rotating parts.
The Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Operations Over People rule, which went into effect on April 21, 2021, allows drone pilots to fly over people and moving vehicles under certain conditions. The rule's ability to fly over people depends on the level of risk the drone poses to people on the ground. The rule also allows night operations under certain conditions if pilots complete training or pass knowledge tests.
Here are some of the requirements for flying a drone over people under the FAA's Operations Over People rule:
Category 1
Drones can fly over groups of people outdoors if they weigh 0.55 pounds or less, including everything attached to the drone, and don't have exposed rotating parts that could cause lacerations. Category 1 drones must also be Remote ID compliant.
Another thing is dont fully rely on the obstacle avoidance especially when you are flying near the trees that has small branches
@@MohdAzrulBinMazlan-o1s agree when you put the prop guards on it automatically turns OA off on the drone.
@@JandE-TEX-DRONESwith the guards you’re over .55 and require a WAIVER for OOP
@ no need I have my 107.
Another great idea for adding an obvious extra safety feature to the drone, rendered entirely not worth doing because it takes weight over 250g. See also 'Nav lights' ! They need to fix that law so that small additions over the limit that are evidently adding safety features are permitted. Of course they won't, but it seems like an obvious and sensible thing to do if drone laws are actually about safety, as they continue to claim.
Well DJI M4P with Plus battery and prop guard weight is at 250g. So when I learned that I was very happy. You still need a wavier and I was going to test that but they want you to do it in 90 days before event. I thought that was ridiculous so I will definitely have to test that waiver when I have an event that far out that I know. I feel once you have your 107 and your drone is registered like mine has always been and you list what it has and the current weight. I don’t understand once you’re in the system. Why can’t they just do the waiver like they do with ALOF. I did receive the following from ALOF and it looks very promising if you’re an enterprise. I skimmed over but I need to read it more in detail and test this waiver process. But it looks like they have streamed line this process if this is true, this will be awesome.
www.aloft.ai/blog/aloft-introduces-automated-sgi-waivers-in-aloft-air-control-streamlining-access-to-restricted-airspaces/
@@JandE-TEX-DRONES That' can't be right. There is no way on earth that prop guard weighs les than a gram ! Even the the text on the DJI listing for the item warns it takes the M4P overweight, and we know plus batteries do too, so I don't know why you are thinking that any drone with both could possibly be only 250g !
@@Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay your right that was totally wrong. I am not sure where I got those numbers so here are the numbers break down.
Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams
Plus battery - 121 grams
Scan Disk - 0.26 grams
Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams.
171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) =
376.93 grams = 0.831 pound
Take off weight - 376.93
there is actually an instruction how to apply the prop guards correctly and it was pointless to wrestle with them for half an hour.
I dont think it was half an hr. The video was only 20:56 min 🙄🙄
Useful piece of information, thanks for that!
Glad it was helpful!
i need gimbal guard more than propeller guards lol
Lol!
Can’t be used with PLUS batteries? 16:45 Damn, I only have plus batteries 😱
Well its not recommended or guaranteed. But everything you saw was with my plus batteries.
Too heave with plus battery
@ yep, I noticed that. Bought a pair of standard batteries to fly with it indoor.
Thanks for the demonstration, John. I need to order a set, as I have a request from a fellow classmate to fly my drone over our 60-year HS reunion picnic. So this way, I'll be legal and not have to worry about flying over people and injuring anyone if I happen to get too close. And yes, I'm sure they will be easier to put on the second time. I remember my frustration installing the prop guards on my Mavic Mini the first time. Good video, John.
Thank you sir! Yes I do like them alot. This is also why I wanted them is to fly over people. I also researched to see the weight of myDJI M4P with a plus battery and the prop guards.
Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams
Plus battery - 121 grams
Scan Disk - 0.26 grams
Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams.
171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) =
376.93 grams = 0.831 pound
Take off weight - 376.93
With that said I believe I still have to get a wavier but the FAA wanted 90 days before event. But I just received an email from ALOFT to streamline the waiver process. I have not gone through this process yet or tested it. That’s something. I definitely want to test here is the link that you can read about it.
Aloft Webinar Replay:
SGI Waivers in Air Control. Here is link.
mailchi.mp/a36310b6d40e/aloft-webinar-streamline-sgi-waivers-in-air-control-1678403?e=665f553807
@@JandE-TEX-DRONES Thanks John!
Over 250 grams requires a WAIVER for ops over people and with prop guards your over 250.
I have my 107 no need for Waiver.
@@JandE-TEX-DRONES I have my 107 as well. And if you’re over 250 grams part 107 prohibits operations over people and moving vehicles. Both can be waived but if you’re over 250 you need a waiver.
I was going to buy the mini 4 and waiver it with the standard battery, guards, and anti collision light which is what brought me here.
However, I just found out they’ve disabled RID with the standard battery installed (and haven’t seen that that has changed) so it would then also need an RID module and I’m just not going to do that.
But yeah, I’m positive the 107 alone doesn’t allow OOP if you’re over 250. You need a waiver.
that must take it over the weight of 249g so cant fly in UK with a 0 grade surly
Yes it does.
Weight
Drone DJI MINI 4 Pro - 171.67 grams
Plus battery - 121 grams
Scan Disk - 0.26 grams
Prop guards - 42 grams each side with a total it 84 grams.
171.67 grams) + (121 grams) + (0.26 grams) + (84 grams) =
Take off weight - 376.93 grams / 0.831 lbs
I'll never use it in sport's mode NEVER then you say let's try sport's mode 😂
Yeah I just had to try it . Lol