I can see what you are saying on the third video, however I am with the referee on that one. I would've caution the player by looking at the VAR cameras. If you look at the play again, the player in the darker jersey gets pushed into the opponent, and for that reason I would've make the decision of a caution rather than a send off
Fernando, I appreciate you watching the video and commenting. Having a dialogue is the best way to learn. My response to your post is this, FIFA has stated that this challenge is a red card. This is not my opinion, but FIFA stating that this needs to be punished with a red card. I understand the law allows referees to use our judgement in making decisions, but FIFA has put this clip out as a red card challenge, so that is what we as officials need to do.
I can see it both ways but I suppose at the end of the day the player 'being pushed' could have moved his weight off of the leg that hit the other player. Talking through the '6 things to look at' is the main thing hear so appreciate the videos to watch!
I would like to say that, I am lucky to have those videos of considerations. Thank very much for making those stuffs. But in those video I do have one question to be clear with. I believe that the most determine factors for the challenge considerations are force and the recklessness, carelessness or the forceful behavior of the players. How does the other three affects the level of punishment. For instance the stud, point of contact and mode of contact. I need more clarity in those three considerations. Thanks very much
Thank you for posting these training videos. As a new referee, I feel like challenges are the most difficult part for me. I feel like I can do ok when I am watching a Premier League game with replays. However, on the pitch without replays is MUCH harder. I wonder if you could comment on the whole "I got ball" excuse from players, coaches, and parents. I have not found anything in the laws that mention that a challenge that makes contact with the ball allows any other associated contact legal. In other words, there can be fouls where the defender makes contact with the ball but still fouls the opponent. Also, clarification on contact with a keeper would be helpful. I have seen some pretty reckless contact that was initiated by the KEEPER without a foul being called because it is the keeper (sometimes the foul is actually called on the attacking player). Thanks!!
Nate, Thank you for the comment. We can put out another challenge video just to help your thought process more. I love the EPL as well, but it is very dangerous as an official to watch those matches. Their application of the laws is very different then what we would ask of you in grassroots soccer in Idaho. I will email you about the "I got ball" question. US Soccer put out a specific position paper a few years ago that addresses this exact question. In short for anyone who reads this, a player is responsible for their body, contact and force no matter if the ball is gotten. That is taken into consideration when judging the challenge, but it is not a get out of jail free card.
Thank you, I would love you read that paper. What aspect of the application of the laws is different at the grassroots level vs Premier League (or other professional leagues)? Thanks!
I can see what you are saying on the third video, however I am with the referee on that one. I would've caution the player by looking at the VAR cameras. If you look at the play again, the player in the darker jersey gets pushed into the opponent, and for that reason I would've make the decision of a caution rather than a send off
Fernando, I appreciate you watching the video and commenting. Having a dialogue is the best way to learn. My response to your post is this, FIFA has stated that this challenge is a red card. This is not my opinion, but FIFA stating that this needs to be punished with a red card. I understand the law allows referees to use our judgement in making decisions, but FIFA has put this clip out as a red card challenge, so that is what we as officials need to do.
I can see it both ways but I suppose at the end of the day the player 'being pushed' could have moved his weight off of the leg that hit the other player.
Talking through the '6 things to look at' is the main thing hear so appreciate the videos to watch!
I would like to say that, I am lucky to have those videos of considerations. Thank very much for making those stuffs. But in those video I do have one question to be clear with. I believe that the most determine factors for the challenge considerations are force and the recklessness, carelessness or the forceful behavior of the players. How does the other three affects the level of punishment. For instance the stud, point of contact and mode of contact. I need more clarity in those three considerations. Thanks very much
Thank you for posting these training videos. As a new referee, I feel like challenges are the most difficult part for me. I feel like I can do ok when I am watching a Premier League game with replays. However, on the pitch without replays is MUCH harder. I wonder if you could comment on the whole "I got ball" excuse from players, coaches, and parents. I have not found anything in the laws that mention that a challenge that makes contact with the ball allows any other associated contact legal. In other words, there can be fouls where the defender makes contact with the ball but still fouls the opponent. Also, clarification on contact with a keeper would be helpful. I have seen some pretty reckless contact that was initiated by the KEEPER without a foul being called because it is the keeper (sometimes the foul is actually called on the attacking player). Thanks!!
Nate, Thank you for the comment. We can put out another challenge video just to help your thought process more. I love the EPL as well, but it is very dangerous as an official to watch those matches. Their application of the laws is very different then what we would ask of you in grassroots soccer in Idaho. I will email you about the "I got ball" question. US Soccer put out a specific position paper a few years ago that addresses this exact question. In short for anyone who reads this, a player is responsible for their body, contact and force no matter if the ball is gotten. That is taken into consideration when judging the challenge, but it is not a get out of jail free card.
Thank you, I would love you read that paper. What aspect of the application of the laws is different at the grassroots level vs Premier League (or other professional leagues)? Thanks!