Fun fact! Dave also used this pedal in Foo Fighters! Also the “double track” setting on the polychorus is basically just slap back delay, so Kurt actually did use delay on Scentless Apprentice!
I think that the Polychorus' double-track effect was more widely used during the In Utero recordings than people realize. It's a very distinct sounding effect once you become familiar with its tonal characteristics. I swear that I can hear the double-track all over that record, sitting in the background of the mix on songs where there's more than one guitar part (basically the entire album.) With short delay times and relatively low feedback, it creates a distinct type of "room sound" - this is exactly the type of sound I can hear all over this record.
This’ll be interesting, I suspect it’ll piss some people off as well. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these historical videos, there isn’t a better source as far as I’m concerned
I've gotten comments on my DOD Grunge video like "Kurt never used a poser pedal like this", even though in the video I show both audio and video clips of him using AND the thumbnail is 2 pics of him literally using it. I fully expect to get similar comments here, even when the video itself shows clips of him using the DM-2 😂 Thank you so much for the kind words! 🙏
@@NirvanaGuitars Could you do some Buddy Holly videos and speaking of Buddy Holly if you really want to know that used flatwound strings by highly recommend Thomastik flatwound strings they're made like the vintage ones from the 50s pure nickel I play country rockabilly and bluegrass and blues and jazz also howdy from North Carolina
@@Ukraineaissance2014 because in one of his videos he showed a Buddy Holly tribute strat he made because the guy who runs Nirvanaguitars is also a fan of Buddy Holly
4:41 the sound there isn’t using a wah, I know it well. It’s what I call the “Graham Coxon flick”. You run the DM-2 by itself into full oscillation with the delay time + intensity maxed, and flick the time back to a lower speed. The pitch drops EXACTLY like the radio sound. You can hear the same effect in the intro to Blur’s ‘Cowboy Song’ (and a bunch of other songs, but “Cowboy” has it front and center in the mix). Brilliant video! I really appreciate seeing such a deep dive on that stuff.
Wow thank you so much for that insight and heads up!! My mind went straight to that shift being caused by a wah. When I was able to get close to those sounds using my wah, I kinda considered it "case shut" and then moved on. I really wish I had known about the flick you are describing so I could have presented that as well. I will find a way to present this in a follow up video of some sorts, and will credit you!
@@NirvanaGuitars Really glad you enjoy! I just got one of the DM-2Ws for my Graham Coxon ‘cosplay’ board (aka your Nirvana project for a different artist). The cool thing about the DM-2W is that if you plug in an expression pedal, you can do the flick hands-free by varying time with your foot.
Agreed on the DM2 rate affecting the sound, not the wah. But I actually think the post-delay wah “alien” sounds is pretty cool and something I hadn’t heard before! So I chalk it up as a Bob Ross “happy accident”.
For the sound At 4:32 Kurt is most likely on the ground turning the repeat time knob on the DM-2 to get the oscillating noises. As apposed to using the wah
When recording Radio Kaos in 1987, Kurt Cobain used a 70s Univox Super Fuzz and an original DM2 with a BBD or Bucket Brigade chip. This chip allows for self-oscillation (instability in pitch, etc., and feedback). Kurt simply moves the knob (or perhaps two knobs) so that the delay significantly distorts the pitch, as well as creates feedback. But I'm not sure about the presence of this chip in the new revisions from WAZA
Wow interesting! Is there any confirmation or source saying he still had the Super Fuzz at that time? What I’ve seen is that it was stolen shortly after Fecal Matter ended. I’ve always thought 87 KAOS’s overly bitty tone was his DS-1 with the tone knob cranked possibly all the way, but it would make more sense if the Super Fuzz was still in the picture at that time.
Wow, man. I’ve been a huge Kurt/Nirvana fan since the ‘90s, and a guitarist, and I just learned something new. I’ve also had a vintage DM-2 on my board for years cause it’s my favourite. This is going to be fun. Thank you.
Never in my wildest dreams I would have thought that Kurt owned a Delay-Pedal! All your videos are just so amazing. And I got to say: "all apologies" would have sounded cool with a bit of delay.
Wow, it's really cool to see these videos on the older "pre-Bleach" era of Nirvana, I have always heard this effect on If You Must but I had no idea what it was.. One thing I love about your videos is I almost always learn something new from them! I think it would have been really interesting to hear how else he could've used this pedal, he really had a creative mind with the feedback stuff.. it sounded really cool when you used the delay on the Big Cheese solo. These pedal history videos are really cool btw, funny seeing people try to argue with you about if he used the grunge pedal lol. i hope to see more!
Dang never been a fan of delay or delay pedals before but really dig the way Kurt used it. Also never knew Kurt owned one before as well as the wah pedal. Definitely will try these out with my multi-effects.
No, Thank you! I love hearing from another Nirvana gearhead🫶 I’m hoping for an IN BLOOM tone video. Keep it up man! I love watching the Nevermind tone videos🫶🫶
While we're on the subject of obscure KC pedals, I've always wanted to know how different he sounded using the univox superfuzz, big muff, rat, compared to his usual distortion pedals. Maybe that could be an idea for a new video. Great content as usual Eric.
He never used the superfuzz on any recordings, so I'm not sure we could ever get an idea of what his tone was like with that, but the rat and muff were used on Nevermind, so I wonder if there's a way to find the guitar tracks and see if the different pedals can be pinpointed?
We can moreorless confidentially guess that he used the superfuzz on the Fecal Matter tape. I don't like to make definitive statements without something concrete/verified to back it up, but everything we have available points to him using his superfuzz on that tape th-cam.com/video/EI_xtil3pW0/w-d-xo.html
Regarding the Polychorus alternative I recommend the sea machine by earthquaker devices, I can provide settings for HSB, RFUS, and Scentless apprentice on that pedal
@@NirvanaGuitarsYou can also replicate it closely with a boss flanger, small clone, and some kind of analog delay helps. There’s a video on YT of a guy doing that and I use that for my Nirvana tribute band.
Very excited for this, I’ve been curious about this pedal since I first found out he used it a while back, I know he used it on If You Must, I have a feeling it could’ve been used on Love Buzz and the Sifting instrumental demo maybe? I’ll find out tomorrow when the video drops!
In the "what if" something tells me the pedal would have been more likely used to get funky sounds during solo/noise sections than as an always on kinda thing in the same way the echoflanger and polychorus were
i love this channel so much, thank you so much for the content, i dont have money to even buy a acoustic but i love seeing your channel lol, please keep it up and dont stop doing this
8:00 I never put together that this show was the same day they recorded the demo. That's pretty wild, especially since they were Ted Ed Fred at that point. Thanks again for all you put into these videos!
I bought an Electro harmonix memory man years ago and I’ve not heard a better delay since. It’s a big one like the polychorus but you can get smaller versions now. Always wondered about those weird sounds in Love Buzz. Great work.
Hello! i love these types of deep dives on niche topics, i think what Kurt was using to make that feedback oscillation during that love buzz break is not a wah but just messing with the delay speed nob, it sounded exactly like what i do with my delay pedal, thanks for the great video!
I was thinking about buying this pedal for when I start electric guitar and then got recommended this video. That makes it, officially, one of the "Kurt Pedals." So yeah, I GOTTA GET IT.
I mean in the ‘93 mtv interview he said they used to use a lot more effects pedals and we’re more new wave sounding so it makes sense that there’s pedals we didn’t even know about!
I recently got an earthquaker devices rainbow machine and I was happy to find out that that can do that oscillating delay in if you must fairly well when I tried it!
Great video!! Really cool to see a rare relic of Nirvana history be looked into so deeply. You should definitely do covers of some more obscure Nirvana songs (Ain’t It a Shame, Mrs. Butterworth, unknown #3/Weirdo, They Hung Him on a Cross, etc.).
great thankyou for this detailed reproduction. I record nirvana covers and do NOT try to reproduce the studio sound as i record live into streaming software using filters, without any post productioin.
Always cool learning more about Kurt’s gear but I never knew he used a delay so that was also interesting, I could hear the wah on the studio version of Love Buzz and some kind of slapback-ish sound so cool hearing what it actually was. I also went down to my local guitar store on New Year’s Eve when they had their Boxing Week sale going on and actually had an old DM-2 on display and one of the employees said that it was from the late 1980s/early 90s, I had never seen one of those pedals before that so it was definitely awesome seeing one that was potentially from the same era as Kurt’s
Get a clean tube amp use the bridge pickup at least that's what I do but I use flatwound strings unlike Kurt who used roundwound strings but yeah the top part of my comment should help
@@MB.juno. I put the bass on 4 treble on 5 It depends on what speaker and tube amp you have I use a vintage Gibson tube amp that has 12au7 tubes that I put in cause I had the tubes in my amp I don't really play heavy guitar stuff
I just wanted to mention that another, much later, use of wah in a Nirvana song is the obscure demo from the In Utero era called E-Coli (fan-given name I think) and it adds well to the almost scary chaos of the whole song
On the last tours, his board was the biggest it'd ever been with the addition of polychorus. Would've been so cool to see what he would've done next pedal wise, I bet he would've gotten even more experimental
before I got to know your channel I had never explored its effects in depth, thank you for what you give. nirvana was the trigger for my real passion, practice and musical culture, which has grown since then, they have been on my path at the right time, it's been 40 years. thanks again.@@NirvanaGuitars
So, I'm pretty sure that Kurt didn't use a wah wah to get that sound. That sounds like he was throwing the intensity up all the way on the dm-2 to send it into feedback and then he adjusted the repeat time to control the pitch, it's an old analog delay trick. Jimmy Page basically did the same thing in the middle of Whole Lotta Love using a tape delay. That's probably what Kurt was trying to do, especially since they were covering Led Zeppelin songs around that time period.
as others have said he is using the knobs on the pedal to make the pedal oscillate and then also to control the oscillation (there is a similar effect on karma police i think, done with a boss dd-3). pretty sure this technique only works with analog delays, digital delays won’t oscillate like that. it does work with the dd-3 because the mixing/feedback stage is analog, only the delay signal itself is digital. fyi, that pedal in the pic could also be the boss dm-3. it looks exactly the same as dm-2 but is slightly darker colour.
I believe a very early use of the wah pedal was on his track "Reverb Experiment" off of his home demo tape montage of heck. A clear heavy, distorted guitar can be heard with a thick wah sound on.
Seed? In my over 20 years of Nirvana fandom, I've never heard that before. I know it as "Don't Want It All" from the WTLO box set. I've had that for 20 years now.
i thought i needed a delay, so i got one. honestly most of the time i just made noise with it by racking the time knob and shit, get that spaceship stuff going on. they are fun though... this is cool, i never really thought of what he was doing for those noise parts in love buzz or if you must....
Why ppl should be mad at him using certain pedals? I don’t know but it seems like TikTokers trying to make useless dilemas for hype. Great content man!
Helloo I love ur vids!! Just to know, can you please tell me what speakers do you have on your amp?? I really love your content you are one of my favorites content creator here on YT, keep it up!!
Wow, this is completely new to me and I was a huge Nirvana guitar nerd back in early 00's (I wrote tabs for ALL songs back then). On the KAOS radio Love Buzz "summoning aliens" part Kurt was probably adjusting the delay time to make the sound go up and down, not a wah?
I knew he had used a wah pretty early on and in the recording of Love Buzz. I didnt know what kind and after trying some i thought it was a broken wah that would oscilate itself. Had no idea he used a delay, which is a type of pedal id like to think i know alot about because i got like almost a dozen and i use them all them time. Its pretty surprising to say the least. I actually doubted you quite a bit when i first saw the thumbnail, but it makes alot of sense that hed make use of the self oscilliation and turn it into something. He did love some feedback.
On the noise part of Love Buzz, I think he's just turning the knobs on the delay pedal. I think he only uses the wah on the studio version. (On the lead guitar track)
I always thought he did use a delay pedal and a wah in the bleach performance of Love Buzz. Also I think he used a delay pedal in the I Hate Myself demo.
"If You Must" add this pedal to your board, you can get it here 😉 www.amazon.com/shop/nirvanaguitars
Fun fact! Dave also used this pedal in Foo Fighters! Also the “double track” setting on the polychorus is basically just slap back delay, so Kurt actually did use delay on Scentless Apprentice!
I think that the Polychorus' double-track effect was more widely used during the In Utero recordings than people realize. It's a very distinct sounding effect once you become familiar with its tonal characteristics. I swear that I can hear the double-track all over that record, sitting in the background of the mix on songs where there's more than one guitar part (basically the entire album.) With short delay times and relatively low feedback, it creates a distinct type of "room sound" - this is exactly the type of sound I can hear all over this record.
You can pretty easily turn a carbon copy or similar analog delay into the Scentless Apprentice slapback sound
@@TinkerToneworks I use a DD-3 for replicating the double track sound, and it does the job!
This’ll be interesting, I suspect it’ll piss some people off as well. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these historical videos, there isn’t a better source as far as I’m concerned
I've gotten comments on my DOD Grunge video like "Kurt never used a poser pedal like this", even though in the video I show both audio and video clips of him using AND the thumbnail is 2 pics of him literally using it. I fully expect to get similar comments here, even when the video itself shows clips of him using the DM-2 😂 Thank you so much for the kind words! 🙏
@@NirvanaGuitars
Could you do some Buddy Holly videos and speaking of Buddy Holly if you really want to know that used flatwound strings by highly recommend Thomastik flatwound strings they're made like the vintage ones from the 50s pure nickel I play country rockabilly and bluegrass and blues and jazz also howdy from North Carolina
@@NirvanaGuitars As it's said... Empty cans make the most noise. Maybe they should fill up, because their tank's empty.
Why the piss would he do buddy holly videos? @@southernpride2003
@@Ukraineaissance2014 because in one of his videos he showed a Buddy Holly tribute strat he made because the guy who runs Nirvanaguitars is also a fan of Buddy Holly
4:41 the sound there isn’t using a wah, I know it well. It’s what I call the “Graham Coxon flick”. You run the DM-2 by itself into full oscillation with the delay time + intensity maxed, and flick the time back to a lower speed. The pitch drops EXACTLY like the radio sound. You can hear the same effect in the intro to Blur’s ‘Cowboy Song’ (and a bunch of other songs, but “Cowboy” has it front and center in the mix). Brilliant video! I really appreciate seeing such a deep dive on that stuff.
1:52 you can see him flicking the time knob on stage.
Wow thank you so much for that insight and heads up!! My mind went straight to that shift being caused by a wah. When I was able to get close to those sounds using my wah, I kinda considered it "case shut" and then moved on. I really wish I had known about the flick you are describing so I could have presented that as well. I will find a way to present this in a follow up video of some sorts, and will credit you!
@@NirvanaGuitars Really glad you enjoy! I just got one of the DM-2Ws for my Graham Coxon ‘cosplay’ board (aka your Nirvana project for a different artist). The cool thing about the DM-2W is that if you plug in an expression pedal, you can do the flick hands-free by varying time with your foot.
@@NirvanaGuitarsyep adjust the knobs manually. I do this with my MXR Carbon Copy and it works with most analog delays.
Agreed on the DM2 rate affecting the sound, not the wah. But I actually think the post-delay wah “alien” sounds is pretty cool and something I hadn’t heard before! So I chalk it up as a Bob Ross “happy accident”.
HE NEVER MISSES!!! Also never knew he even HAD a delay nor wah, thank you very much for the information as always
Of course! Thank YOU for watching and for the support 🙂
For the sound At 4:32 Kurt is most likely on the ground turning the repeat time knob on the DM-2 to get the oscillating noises. As apposed to using the wah
I commented this too, manipulating the delay to get this effect is a very distinct sound. Definitely not a wah wah pedal
Im just amazed how you keep finding such interesting information about Kurts gear. Excellent work as allways.
Thank you very much! It’s always fun researching Nirvana gear, but the chase is even more thrilling when it’s obscure/more unknown pieces of gear
Im planning on starting a collection of Kurts guitars like yours and your videos are going to be great for guidance.
The fact you can find out what pedal KC used, just by the color on a low res picture from the 87 shows just how amazing boss's branding is
Yeah makes them really stand out, pretty smart on boss's end
Man I love your work your actually one of the reasons i started to play guitar
That's an honor 🙏 Thank you for the support!
@@NirvanaGuitarsYou’re basically the reason I’m into nirvana at all so thanks for the introduction to all Kurt’s interesting history
When recording Radio Kaos in 1987, Kurt Cobain used a 70s Univox Super Fuzz and an original DM2 with a BBD or Bucket Brigade chip. This chip allows for self-oscillation (instability in pitch, etc., and feedback). Kurt simply moves the knob (or perhaps two knobs) so that the delay significantly distorts the pitch, as well as creates feedback. But I'm not sure about the presence of this chip in the new revisions from WAZA
Wow interesting! Is there any confirmation or source saying he still had the Super Fuzz at that time? What I’ve seen is that it was stolen shortly after Fecal Matter ended. I’ve always thought 87 KAOS’s overly bitty tone was his DS-1 with the tone knob cranked possibly all the way, but it would make more sense if the Super Fuzz was still in the picture at that time.
Always fun to see other gear kurt used other than what is generally known. Loved the lat part!
imagine if 1988 kurt cobain had a strymon timeline or any other multi effect pedal. he’d go crazy lol
Wow, man. I’ve been a huge Kurt/Nirvana fan since the ‘90s, and a guitarist, and I just learned something new. I’ve also had a vintage DM-2 on my board for years cause it’s my favourite.
This is going to be fun. Thank you.
Never in my wildest dreams I would have thought that Kurt owned a Delay-Pedal! All your videos are just so amazing. And I got to say: "all apologies" would have sounded cool with a bit of delay.
Wow, it's really cool to see these videos on the older "pre-Bleach" era of Nirvana, I have always heard this effect on If You Must but I had no idea what it was.. One thing I love about your videos is I almost always learn something new from them!
I think it would have been really interesting to hear how else he could've used this pedal, he really had a creative mind with the feedback stuff.. it sounded really cool when you used the delay on the Big Cheese solo.
These pedal history videos are really cool btw, funny seeing people try to argue with you about if he used the grunge pedal lol. i hope to see more!
I think that possibly the reason why he stopped using the Dm2 could possibly be because it was broken or stolen or he preferred to stop using it.
Keep up the hard work Eric we appreciate it!
Dang never been a fan of delay or delay pedals before but really dig the way Kurt used it. Also never knew Kurt owned one before as well as the wah pedal. Definitely will try these out with my multi-effects.
Didn’t really nail the tone on Incesticide but you nailed how Kurt used the Boss DM-2 and Wah Wah, thank you
That tone is a work in progress haha threw that in there to see if anyone would offer feedback on it!
Love the videos keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for watching!
No, Thank you! I love hearing from another Nirvana gearhead🫶 I’m hoping for an IN BLOOM tone video. Keep it up man! I love watching the Nevermind tone videos🫶🫶
As always, great job! I am really looking forward to the pedal series.
While we're on the subject of obscure KC pedals, I've always wanted to know how different he sounded using the univox superfuzz, big muff, rat, compared to his usual distortion pedals. Maybe that could be an idea for a new video. Great content as usual Eric.
He never used the superfuzz on any recordings, so I'm not sure we could ever get an idea of what his tone was like with that, but the rat and muff were used on Nevermind, so I wonder if there's a way to find the guitar tracks and see if the different pedals can be pinpointed?
We can moreorless confidentially guess that he used the superfuzz on the Fecal Matter tape. I don't like to make definitive statements without something concrete/verified to back it up, but everything we have available points to him using his superfuzz on that tape th-cam.com/video/EI_xtil3pW0/w-d-xo.html
Regarding the Polychorus alternative I recommend the sea machine by earthquaker devices, I can provide settings for HSB, RFUS, and Scentless apprentice on that pedal
Will have to look that pedal up, thanks for the recommendation!
@@NirvanaGuitarsYou can also replicate it closely with a boss flanger, small clone, and some kind of analog delay helps. There’s a video on YT of a guy doing that and I use that for my Nirvana tribute band.
Very excited for this, I’ve been curious about this pedal since I first found out he used it a while back, I know he used it on If You Must, I have a feeling it could’ve been used on Love Buzz and the Sifting instrumental demo maybe? I’ll find out tomorrow when the video drops!
Most definitely used on that love buzz instrumental
In the "what if" something tells me the pedal would have been more likely used to get funky sounds during solo/noise sections than as an always on kinda thing in the same way the echoflanger and polychorus were
Great video! I'm loving these pedal history videos, keep up the good work!
I really appreciate the effort put into these videos, your one of the main sources to get real information on kurts gear and i thank you for that.
i love this channel so much, thank you so much for the content, i dont have money to even buy a acoustic but i love seeing your channel lol, please keep it up and dont stop doing this
8:00 I never put together that this show was the same day they recorded the demo. That's pretty wild, especially since they were Ted Ed Fred at that point. Thanks again for all you put into these videos!
Great new series!!
Thank you so much! I feel in a time machine back in 87'-88' cause of you! Great vidéo as usual! Cheers from France
I bought an Electro harmonix memory man years ago and I’ve not heard a better delay since. It’s a big one like the polychorus but you can get smaller versions now. Always wondered about those weird sounds in Love Buzz. Great work.
1:52 looks like he's playing with the rate knob, I'm not doubting the wah, but the KAOS Love Buzz sounds more like runaway analog delay
Did you see the EGC Kurt inspired guitars? They used the Polaroid photo mock up guitar Kurt made in his journal and made that guitar
Where was it posted? Is it possible to purchase it?
Hello! i love these types of deep dives on niche topics, i think what Kurt was using to make that feedback oscillation during that love buzz break is not a wah but just messing with the delay speed nob, it sounded exactly like what i do with my delay pedal, thanks for the great video!
I’m sure it’s that, I don’t own one but saw that’s how Radiohead did it for karma police
It's both in the studio version.
@@davidjameschamberlain yeah you can hear how it muffles and unmuffles
How do you play like Kurt? fingers and such?
Arms and hands
@@NirvanaGuitars I just got dumped hahah
@@LazinPoweredforem
Power cords
@@southernpride2003 i know
I love these videos you I about pedals! Please carry on, so excited to see this video 😊
Very exited I might get one for the sake of that tone!
I LOOOOOVVVVVEEEEEE these pedal videos!!!!
🥹🙏🏻
i bought this pedal for my birthday and i love the crazy sounds i can get with it
wtfff heart shaped box with the dm-2 is actually beautiful
please make a cover of it, it legit sounds beautiful
You can also hear him messing with the delay in Raunchola on the with the light out box set.
I was thinking about buying this pedal for when I start electric guitar and then got recommended this video. That makes it, officially, one of the "Kurt Pedals." So yeah, I GOTTA GET IT.
I mean in the ‘93 mtv interview he said they used to use a lot more effects pedals and we’re more new wave sounding so it makes sense that there’s pedals we didn’t even know about!
You should do a video on what you think Kurt would have used each decade if he was still alive.
I never knew he used one. But it makes sense
Definitely one of the most obscure Kurt pedals!
Yeah it's pretty interesting. And I thought I knew almost everything!
Is it true that Kurt used this pedal and some unknown wah-wah pedal on Love Buzz?
@@TheDisturbance-ez8mf you've got a point there
Please make that telecaster or a vid on it !! 0:01
I’m so exited!
I recently got an earthquaker devices rainbow machine and I was happy to find out that that can do that oscillating delay in if you must fairly well when I tried it!
That was pretty cool, I love if you must, but never imagined that section of it was made with a delay :-o
I love your videos man!!! oure tones are so accurate 🤘🤘🖤💛
Hell yea this is gonna blow lid off a lot of stuff. Been researching this for a while
I bought a vintage DM-2 years ago. It's a simple, but great pedal. I used to use it all the time, but haven't used it as much recently.
Great video!! Really cool to see a rare relic of Nirvana history be looked into so deeply. You should definitely do covers of some more obscure Nirvana songs (Ain’t It a Shame, Mrs. Butterworth, unknown #3/Weirdo, They Hung Him on a Cross, etc.).
Please do more videos of Kurt cobains more obscure pedals/gear!! They’re so interesting to learn about
i'm truly amaze with your research and dedication sir..
Great work as always. Thank you 👍🏼
That’s kind of cool, I have the same delay but it’s the Waza version, didn’t know he used this
The Delay/Wah sounded great
Getting close to 40k subscribers - yay!
great thankyou for this detailed reproduction. I record nirvana covers and do NOT try to reproduce the studio sound as i record live into streaming software using filters, without any post productioin.
Love this channel
Always cool learning more about Kurt’s gear but I never knew he used a delay so that was also interesting, I could hear the wah on the studio version of Love Buzz and some kind of slapback-ish sound so cool hearing what it actually was. I also went down to my local guitar store on New Year’s Eve when they had their Boxing Week sale going on and actually had an old DM-2 on display and one of the employees said that it was from the late 1980s/early 90s, I had never seen one of those pedals before that so it was definitely awesome seeing one that was potentially from the same era as Kurt’s
this video is so rad, I just bought a wah and delay
I have a question, do you know what the tone and amp settings for the "sappy (early demo)” be? Reddit sent me here.
Get a clean tube amp use the bridge pickup at least that's what I do but I use flatwound strings unlike Kurt who used roundwound strings but yeah the top part of my comment should help
@@southernpride2003 thank you, but are there any specific amp settings or tuning?
@@MB.juno. I put the bass on 4 treble on 5
It depends on what speaker and tube amp you have I use a vintage Gibson tube amp that has 12au7 tubes that I put in cause I had the tubes in my amp I don't really play heavy guitar stuff
I just wanted to mention that another, much later, use of wah in a Nirvana song is the obscure demo from the In Utero era called E-Coli (fan-given name I think) and it adds well to the almost scary chaos of the whole song
kurt has always said he likes sonic effects, and I think psychedelia too.
On the last tours, his board was the biggest it'd ever been with the addition of polychorus. Would've been so cool to see what he would've done next pedal wise, I bet he would've gotten even more experimental
before I got to know your channel I had never explored its effects in depth, thank you for what you give. nirvana was the trigger for my real passion, practice and musical culture, which has grown since then, they have been on my path at the right time, it's been 40 years. thanks again.@@NirvanaGuitars
So, I'm pretty sure that Kurt didn't use a wah wah to get that sound. That sounds like he was throwing the intensity up all the way on the dm-2 to send it into feedback and then he adjusted the repeat time to control the pitch, it's an old analog delay trick. Jimmy Page basically did the same thing in the middle of Whole Lotta Love using a tape delay. That's probably what Kurt was trying to do, especially since they were covering Led Zeppelin songs around that time period.
as others have said he is using the knobs on the pedal to make the pedal oscillate and then also to control the oscillation (there is a similar effect on karma police i think, done with a boss dd-3). pretty sure this technique only works with analog delays, digital delays won’t oscillate like that. it does work with the dd-3 because the mixing/feedback stage is analog, only the delay signal itself is digital.
fyi, that pedal in the pic could also be the boss dm-3. it looks exactly the same as dm-2 but is slightly darker colour.
Absolutely loving your pedal history series! Maybe one on the rat would be awesome, due to the many misconceptions about its use.
I believe a very early use of the wah pedal was on his track "Reverb Experiment" off of his home demo tape montage of heck. A clear heavy, distorted guitar can be heard with a thick wah sound on.
What exactly is the Gotoh Nashville style bridge model on your Skystang I?
It looks like I've found the answer to my question. It's Kluson USA Made Standard Nashville Tune-o-Matic Bridge Zinc Nickel With Hardware KLP-1200N.
Kurt also used the wah on some demo called "Reverb Experiment" it's pretty much just him playing with a wah
11:27 This is also 100% the Graham Coxon flick, with the intensity turned down. I’d know that note anywhere. You’re spot on with the DM-2 there.
Seed? In my over 20 years of Nirvana fandom, I've never heard that before. I know it as "Don't Want It All" from the WTLO box set. I've had that for 20 years now.
I learn more from you than in school😅
On love buzz I don’t think he is running the delay through the wah, to get that sound he just has the feedback up and it turning the delay time knob
I never knew he had one!
i thought i needed a delay, so i got one. honestly most of the time i just made noise with it by racking the time knob and shit, get that spaceship stuff going on. they are fun though... this is cool, i never really thought of what he was doing for those noise parts in love buzz or if you must....
I'm actually surprised that Kurt didn't used more delay later on his carreer since it's a very useful tool in the creation of noise textures.
Just got a DS-1W for Christmas. Now looking for a Small Clone.
Because of your influence, I'll start eying this as well! 😉
Why ppl should be mad at him using certain pedals? I don’t know but it seems like TikTokers trying to make useless dilemas for hype. Great content man!
You should check out Kurt Cobain’s MXR M104 Distortion Plus Pedal. He used at the Astoria Theatre, London, UK on December 3, 1989.
My kurt pedalboard only has a DS 1 and small clone. It is has to grow 😂
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hey, big fan of your channel! i had an idea of you making some nirvana song tutorials for some more obscure songs, it would be like a little series.
Wow, this is completely new to me and I was a huge Nirvana guitar nerd back in early 00's (I wrote tabs for ALL songs back then).
On the KAOS radio Love Buzz "summoning aliens" part Kurt was probably adjusting the delay time to make the sound go up and down, not a wah?
Would love to see a vid about the wah peda you mentioned that he used. Know he did during the solo part of Blew but would like to hear/learn more
Yo that delay sounded really cool on Lithium and About A Girl
Sounds awesome
I knew he had used a wah pretty early on and in the recording of Love Buzz. I didnt know what kind and after trying some i thought it was a broken wah that would oscilate itself. Had no idea he used a delay, which is a type of pedal id like to think i know alot about because i got like almost a dozen and i use them all them time. Its pretty surprising to say the least. I actually doubted you quite a bit when i first saw the thumbnail, but it makes alot of sense that hed make use of the self oscilliation and turn it into something. He did love some feedback.
Next deep dive: Big Long Now. That song sounds unlike any other Nirvana song.
12:53 Danm that sounds really cool that sounds like the 80s
On the noise part of Love Buzz, I think he's just turning the knobs on the delay pedal. I think he only uses the wah on the studio version. (On the lead guitar track)
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Saw this and thought the free play part of love buzz where he oscillates the hell out of the delay pedal and pairs it with the wah
excellent use of the waza D
The feedback reminds me that of the Something in the Way electric version he did Live at the BBC
He might have used it on smells like teen spirit if you listen to the butch vig mix with how long the last note on the solo is held out
I always thought he did use a delay pedal and a wah in the bleach performance of Love Buzz. Also I think he used a delay pedal in the I Hate Myself demo.