You all joke but I've been living in this nightmare for years now and here in Barcelona I wish I had 15 minutes - everything is maximum 5 minutes max and I can't go any further than that. I do have a plan of escape. There are things called "buses" around me and even two staircases going underground for something called "the metro". Rumor has it that they can take me to a different place so I just need to figure out how they work. I pray for you all that you'll never have to live trough thin nightmare. Great episode, by the way 😄
LOL. Barcelona and Paris are the most 15-minute cities. They are advantaged by their very high density, sure, but both have really capitalized on it and furher developed & implemented the concept. The super illas in Barna, the new transit and "cinema" neighborhoods in Paris.... It's brilliant.
@@KyrilPG Well, they may be very 15 minute, but for work or study you end up travelling a lot ! I met students from Paris and they spent many hours per day commuting to Uni in other parts of the city. (It was too expensive to rent a room near the uni, as you would do in smaller cities, more distant ..). It would be interesting what the 200km (!) expansion (doubling) Grand Paris Express of the Paris metro will mean to those travel times... Actually smaller cities like 100-200k , are more '15 minute' , because a 200k city's diametre would be like 7 km ( in Netherlands). So the entire city can be traversed by bike. In larger cities one needs transit, because distances get too long to do everything by bike. (that is why in NL the highest bike modes are not in cities like The Hague, Rotterdam or Amsterdam , but in smaller 100-200k cities like Zwolle, groningen and Utrecht.
@@lws7394 Yeah but a smaller city of like 100-200k inhabitants is quite limited on what it can offer, forcing many students to go study in different cities. Just like it is limited in the jobs, culture and amenities it can offer. A much larger city can evolve to offer reduced distances to a much much much larger part of the population in all aspects of their lives : jobs, leisure, sports, culture, shopping, education, health, etc. The Netherlands isn't really a good example here (it's great, but the example in this point isn't applicable in many countries like France), because pretty much the entire Southern half of the Netherlands, the Randstad, is like a conurbation. Cities are quite close to each other. Also, the infrastructure costs of a city per capita or household is inversely proportional to its population and density. 2 cities of 200k inhabitants will cost more in infrastructure than a 400k population city. Things like the water piping and treatment, sewers, utility networks, etc. One example : a 200k city needs back-up water treatment installations, while in a city of 10 million inhabitants the residual capacity of each treatment plant combined exceed the required back-up capacity and the network is much more resilient. And in a 5 million people city if it's not enough, a single back-up plan with the combined residual capacity of other plants will surely be enough. Same for electricity networks, the multiplicity of sources and transformation plants offer the more resilience at the lower cost per capita the larger the city is. Sure, many people have to travel long distances and times in Greater Paris because they can't find housing near to where they are studying or working. A megapolis doesn't change overnight, but there are already new student housing projects that were built and inaugurated recently. New or renewed neighborhoods, including the MANY housing projects linked to or part of the Grand Paris project * , are being conceived with certain proportions of offices, and free market, semi-social, social and student housing, to drastically reduce the distances that people need to travel. * the "Grand Paris" project is a "framework" project that includes a transit project, the Grand Paris Express, and many urban renewal, development, and reorganization projects to transform the agglomeration into a massively multicentric megapolis. In the beginning, the multicenterization project wasn't even linked to the 15-minute city concept. But it will continue to become part of it as it's aimed for the same goal. Several housing and multicenterization projects are "physically" linked to the transit project, with certain tenders being awarded jointly for stations and housing, offices, shops, etc. Some even with simultaneous construction. One example, out of many : the new interchange station of Villejuif Gustave Roussy (due to open in December this year) where M14's very recent Southern extension and M15 South section (opening in December 2025) cross each other perpendicularly. The huge station serves a major existing oncology excellence center, and will be surrounded by numerous research centers, and a new "ZAC" (a concerted development zone) where there'll be lots of housing, offices and shops, all environmentally friendly. Plus student housing that is aimed for medical, medtech, and research students. The housing is intended to be priced, dimensioned, and tailored as much as possible to serve the people working in the area, and also offering them all the services they need daily and might need occasionally (like a general medical practice, etc.). No one can force people to live near to where they work, some don't want to because they want a clear separation between their "worlds". But you can incentivize them as much as possible by offering what they'd want, and possibly with preferential conditions, etc. Or revive the "company housing" (like there are company cars) that was more common decades ago. The Grand Paris project articulates hundreds of developments to either create new, or develop existing centers all around the stations of the Grand Paris Express project. To no longer have dormitory suburbs, and at the same time reduce the massive overcrowding in the main existing centers. There's also a project to further develop around Val de Fontenay, which is a mini La Défense business district in the East, and around Saint-Denis Pleyel (GPE's mega hub), another mini La Défense business district in the North. While also improving housing around La Défense (the real one in the West), so that a smaller proportion of the business district's workers don't have to travel far. Anyway, another aspect of the Region's plans is to severely limit sprawl (already happening) and to densify the inner and mid rings of suburbs, while substantially increasing transit speed and capacity without increasing distances. This should allow a large part of the population to work in the vicinity of their home, while offering much faster and better transit to others that will find everything else they need nearby their home or their work. Same for their children that will have kindergartens, schools, sports and entertainment venues nearby. In the core city, the car is already reduced to the 4th mode of transportation, well behind walking, transit and cycling. More people move in the core city cycling than by driving, with some of the bike lanes having sky high traffic numbers. The core city is only 105km², or about a 12 by 10 kilometer area and hosts about 2.5 millions people by night, and some days up to 6 millions during the day. Those who live in the core city have much shorter distances on average to go to work. And they have literally everything they need close by. A little over a decade ago that was my case, I used to live less than 15 minutes away from my work via metro or very energetic bike ride. 15-minute is a goal, but there's a realistical aspect to it, as you can only shape the evolution of a city to make that goal attainable for a larger portion of the population. Some will have it all, and some will have everything they need but their work or university. Having everything but the main occupation location is already quite a progress. And for some it will be 15-minute for all their needs and a reduction of their daily commute to much shorter durations. The recently opened line 14's extension to Orlyv(Paris second international airport, like Gatwick or Newark) greatly reduced travel times for many people working at the airport or the giant fresh produce gross market of Rungis. Some from 45 minutes to 10, 15 or 20 minutes.
@@lws7394 The number of inhabitants is irrelevant, it's the density and transit that's important. Paris is a very dense city (denser than Barcelona), and similar to the "suburb" of Barcelona L'Hospitalet de Llobregat) but the city of Paris is just ~ 100 km2 and if you go to study out of the city it can be a long ride, although the new Grand Paris Express aims to change that. In Barcelona there are plenty of university in the city, all are easily accessed by public transit. Even out of the city universities, like Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona (in Vallés Occidental) is connected with the regional/suburban lines S2, R7 and R8. Rent is also not that hi as people here prefer a steady effortless income over more money. I live in the center and pay far less than the average as the owners that wanted to increase rent to the current norm decided that the prefer to get less for a renter they know that never bothered them with anything, does not cause problems and always pays on time. i have a direct bus to where i work but I prefer to walk as it's only 2 km away. One of the differences between the US and many cities in Europe is that people here prefer to walk and use public transit. They prefer to buy fresh products over processed food and small neighborhood shops over big chains. They still take their cart and go to the butcher. the fruit and vegetables store, the market (there are 39 of them all over the city) , Fish store, bakery etc. This is not unique to Barcelona or Europe in general, this is still the norm in many parts of the world.
Maybe the whole thing comes from these two totally different lifestyles… For many Europeans it's "ok, what's new about that?" and when you need a 15 minutes bike ride to the grocery store, then you are probably "in the middle of nowhere". And on the other end, for many Americans it's difficult to understand that you can feed yourself without 45 minutes of gridlock.
What I have never understood is that if 15 minute cities are so bad, why are they so expensive to live in??? Any area in big cities in the US that have sections like this are totally unaffordable for most people. If they are so bad...maybe they can move (worth a try) so the rest of us can afford to live there
Point 1: They are not bad ! They save a lot of time and money when you live in it, with many retail etc nearby. Suburbs are subsidized. If the city would tax enough for the utility, road and stormwater maintenance , the local tax for single family home streets would have to be a lot higher. Older , walkable area pay more tax and subsidize car dependency ( see Not Just Bikes about this and more on Strong Towns channel ). Usually walkable neighbourhoods are popular , but scarce because according zoning rules they are illegal to get build . They are hard to find .. If there would be more such neighbourhoods prices might ease down..
@@TransitTangents I lived in something close to a 15min city when I was in school, and it was great! I hardly ever had to drive. I would happily live in one now. Between antiquated zoning rules and NIMBYs it's just not cost effective enough yet.
I live in one of the 2 most 15-minute cities in the world, Paris (the other is Barcelona). Carlos Moreno is Paris' city hall adviser, and two neighborhoods were completely renewed and rebuilt following the best practices of the 15-minute city concept. The first neighborhood is Rosa Parks in the 19th district, right next to the fairly recent transit exchange station named Rosa Parks (RER E, tram T3b, and in the future T8, plus bus lines). It has a large UGC Ciné Cité cinema multiplex, restaurants, bars, kindergartens, schools, shops, doctor practices, dentists, a gym, parks, offices, a mall across the canal and loop road, the new justice ministry annex offices and lots of housing, private / market price, semi-social, and social. This area was pretty derelict before, it was filled with abandoned buildings and warehouses, empty lots, etc. The other neighborhood is in the 17th district near rue Mstislav Rostropovitch where there's an entry to the new station of line 14's 2020 extension. It's roughly located between stations Pont Cardinet and Porte de Clichy. There's also a cinema multiplex, conventional and organic supermarkets, offices, restaurants, eateries, bars, kindergartens, schools, doctors, dentists, a park, a gym, a public sports venue... The 3 types of housing, a mini mall, plus a lot of transit. Namely metro 14 and Transilien L on one sude, metro 13 and 14, RER C and tram T3b on another side... People living in these neighborhoods, especially the second one, are connected to major transportation hubs. The Rosa Parks neighborhood is minutes away (one-seat ride) from Gare du Nord, a high-speed train station and the busiest station outside Japan. The neighborhood in the 17th district is on 2 metro lines, 1 RER line (the regional express heavy metro) and the circular tram line. People living there can reach a major high-speed train station (Gare de Lyon), the mega transit hubs of Châtelet-les-Halles and Haussmann-Saint-Lazare, Paris second international airport Orly airport, all in a simple one-seat ride in under 40 minutes for the airport (which is the Southern end of the line). And if they go North a few stations on M14, they reach Saint-Denis Pleyel, the all-new mega transit hub of the Grand Paris Express, where they'll be able to change for the huge loop line (M15), a direct line to CDG airport (M17), an arch line (M16) crossing the Northeastern quadrant suburbs up to M15's tail terminus and RER A interchange, but also RER line D and Transilien line H that irrigate a wide part of the Northern suburbs. So the crazies claiming that people will be forced to stay in their district are pretty ridiculous. The people living in these neighborhoods have fabulous transit connectivity to anywhere they want. The social and semi-social housing in these neighborhoods see very high demand. Paris is already extremely well meshed with transit, but these neighborhoods push the transit capabilities and connectivity even one notch above. With all the lines serving the 2 stations of this neighborhood, there's a train of some sort stopping there every few seconds. It's brilliant! Some even complained that the new one-seat metro access to Orly airport via M14 kinda diminish the efforts to prioritize high-speed trains, because there's about 20 minutes between Gare de Lyon and the airport now. That's a transit-rich problem. 🤣 Barcelona is also a great 15-minute city, with the fabulous super illas measure (super blocks), the extensions of the metro network, including the great L9-L10, etc. Sure, both cities were already very "15-minute-y" in their structure and density, but they really are capitalizing on it and further developing and implementing the concept.
I think we built enough 45 min grid lock parking lot communities. Can someone explain what people are afraid of building some walkable communities like they have in the rest of the world outside the US and Canada?
Walkable communities is the pretty package they sell you to buy into the 15 Minute City model. Its the authoritarian undertones that that entails that's the problem
@@skurinski but even if that was true you could just live somewhere else. Aren’t the “authoritarians” just property developers who have no authority once the 15 min city is built?
You don't even have to be in an urban area to have a 15min city. We picked the area of the suburb we live in now is because we knew it would have a lot of places within biking distance. Just this week I made bike trips to HEB, the gym, summer camps to drop off kids, restaurants, and the park.
I'll add I did have to get prior permission from local authorities and show my ID at each sector crossing but it only added 45-60mins to my trip. Still faster than taking MOPAC into the city!
In San Diego we have an empty JC Penny converting to residential units. That’ll be fun for those living in the mall and all its amenities. 😃 And the Fashion Valley mall is connected to the light rail.
where I live here in France, it's "technically" a 15 minute city, many things are within walking distance, a grocery, many bakeries, a supercenter, a train station, even a really decent cinema, lots of restaurants though I wish we had more coffee shops, some of my medical doctors are close enough to walk to also, and if it's not within walking distance there are buses and trains to get to those places. But it's not perfect, we still have A LOT of traffic, even with all the transit in the area there are still a lot of cars and such, it's really annoying, and it makes biking slightly scary even with designated bike lanes (most are not on the street with the cars for some reason, so the bikes have to stop at every single intersection on some lanes), my particular section of town is a financial center so it feels a little too urban for me. There aren't that many "3rd places" or whatever that is. But I will give you this, it actually is nice being able to walk to the store instead of needing to drive though I still need grocery delivery sometimes because I don't have a car to do really big shopping with. And honestly, overall it still feels pretty safe here even with a major train station near by.
I think it's kind of sad that many people's first impulse to new ideas is fear. I guess it's understandable. We definitely have to focus on the benefits of a 15min city to combat this conspiracy theory.
One thing to note and that is quite a good argument in my opinion : For those who fear a loss of freedom, do you really think that France, where unrest brewing or erupting here and there is just another day ending in y, would even remotely consider the 15-minute city concept if it was what the crazies say it is? Let alone have the capital city be one of the spearheads of the concept, as it is now? If there were such restrictions that some like Joe R9gan claim will be, the Frenchies would be up in arms enacting an umpteenth revolution... 😂 Remember that they've done massive labor strikes and demonstrations, rioted, and burned a lot of things just because the government moved back the retirement age a couple years... so, movement restrictions ? Nah, even in a movie this would be too unrealistic and farfetched. Many are already fulminating because of a few temporary route restrictions due to the Olympics... Plus, why spending dozens of billions on massive public transit expansions if it's not to improve and facilitate mobility? If it was an open-air prison like some claim it will be, then the first thing to do would be to build barriers, not 200 kilometers of new escape routes called metro lines.... and new high-speed train lines...duh. 😂 It really is mind-boggling how some people can have such weird, yet definitive ideas while ignoring such major proofs that they are in the wrong. No government would build that much transportation infrastructure if they planned to limit mobility. (Sorry for the double comment, I only finished the video today).
yes they would, 15 minute cities were enforced during Covid lockdowns where you couldnt go to one side of the city without a report, it happened here in Porto, Portugal
@@skurinski But this had absolutely nothing to do with 15-minute cities, nothing! It was a public health lockdown measure. If you can't see the difference, it is worrying...
Nice video-avoid the stock footage (e.g. the tin foil hat guy). It’s unnecessary. You could easily have worn the tin foil hats yourselves in the intro-and it would have been cute. Also, I would have loved seeing you walking around a community talking rather than sitting in a sofa.
Not sure where you live, but were you ever actually forced to "lock down" even during COVID? I was still able to leave my city, state, etc.... Were there some new rules? Yes. But restriction of travel within our own country in the US never really happened.... -Louis
Any conversation on his podcast that has the tiniest thread linking it to the pandemic or lockdown derails the whole episode into how the United States is basically North Korea
@@kelseyhuse but seriously, during the lockdowns in Europe and progressive cities in the USA , you were restricted from travel or leaving your home. Urban planning general goal is to remove all private motorists from the streets and low density housing ownership. That is their stated goals.
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You all joke but I've been living in this nightmare for years now and here in Barcelona I wish I had 15 minutes - everything is maximum 5 minutes max and I can't go any further than that.
I do have a plan of escape. There are things called "buses" around me and even two staircases going underground for something called "the metro". Rumor has it that they can take me to a different place so I just need to figure out how they work.
I pray for you all that you'll never have to live trough thin nightmare.
Great episode, by the way 😄
LOL.
Barcelona and Paris are the most 15-minute cities. They are advantaged by their very high density, sure, but both have really capitalized on it and furher developed & implemented the concept.
The super illas in Barna, the new transit and "cinema" neighborhoods in Paris....
It's brilliant.
@@KyrilPG Well, they may be very 15 minute, but for work or study you end up travelling a lot ! I met students from Paris and they spent many hours per day commuting to Uni in other parts of the city. (It was too expensive to rent a room near the uni, as you would do in smaller cities, more distant ..). It would be interesting what the 200km (!) expansion (doubling) Grand Paris Express of the Paris metro will mean to those travel times...
Actually smaller cities like 100-200k , are more '15 minute' , because a 200k city's diametre would be like 7 km ( in Netherlands). So the entire city can be traversed by bike. In larger cities one needs transit, because distances get too long to do everything by bike. (that is why in NL the highest bike modes are not in cities like The Hague, Rotterdam or Amsterdam , but in smaller 100-200k cities like Zwolle, groningen and Utrecht.
@@lws7394 Yeah but a smaller city of like 100-200k inhabitants is quite limited on what it can offer, forcing many students to go study in different cities.
Just like it is limited in the jobs, culture and amenities it can offer.
A much larger city can evolve to offer reduced distances to a much much much larger part of the population in all aspects of their lives : jobs, leisure, sports, culture, shopping, education, health, etc.
The Netherlands isn't really a good example here (it's great, but the example in this point isn't applicable in many countries like France), because pretty much the entire Southern half of the Netherlands, the Randstad, is like a conurbation. Cities are quite close to each other.
Also, the infrastructure costs of a city per capita or household is inversely proportional to its population and density.
2 cities of 200k inhabitants will cost more in infrastructure than a 400k population city.
Things like the water piping and treatment, sewers, utility networks, etc.
One example : a 200k city needs back-up water treatment installations, while in a city of 10 million inhabitants the residual capacity of each treatment plant combined exceed the required back-up capacity and the network is much more resilient. And in a 5 million people city if it's not enough, a single back-up plan with the combined residual capacity of other plants will surely be enough.
Same for electricity networks, the multiplicity of sources and transformation plants offer the more resilience at the lower cost per capita the larger the city is.
Sure, many people have to travel long distances and times in Greater Paris because they can't find housing near to where they are studying or working.
A megapolis doesn't change overnight, but there are already new student housing projects that were built and inaugurated recently. New or renewed neighborhoods, including the MANY housing projects linked to or part of the Grand Paris project * , are being conceived with certain proportions of offices, and free market, semi-social, social and student housing, to drastically reduce the distances that people need to travel.
* the "Grand Paris" project is a "framework" project that includes a transit project, the Grand Paris Express, and many urban renewal, development, and reorganization projects to transform the agglomeration into a massively multicentric megapolis.
In the beginning, the multicenterization project wasn't even linked to the 15-minute city concept.
But it will continue to become part of it as it's aimed for the same goal.
Several housing and multicenterization projects are "physically" linked to the transit project, with certain tenders being awarded jointly for stations and housing, offices, shops, etc. Some even with simultaneous construction.
One example, out of many : the new interchange station of Villejuif Gustave Roussy (due to open in December this year) where M14's very recent Southern extension and M15 South section (opening in December 2025) cross each other perpendicularly.
The huge station serves a major existing oncology excellence center, and will be surrounded by numerous research centers, and a new "ZAC" (a concerted development zone) where there'll be lots of housing, offices and shops, all environmentally friendly.
Plus student housing that is aimed for medical, medtech, and research students.
The housing is intended to be priced, dimensioned, and tailored as much as possible to serve the people working in the area, and also offering them all the services they need daily and might need occasionally (like a general medical practice, etc.).
No one can force people to live near to where they work, some don't want to because they want a clear separation between their "worlds". But you can incentivize them as much as possible by offering what they'd want, and possibly with preferential conditions, etc. Or revive the "company housing" (like there are company cars) that was more common decades ago.
The Grand Paris project articulates hundreds of developments to either create new, or develop existing centers all around the stations of the Grand Paris Express project. To no longer have dormitory suburbs, and at the same time reduce the massive overcrowding in the main existing centers.
There's also a project to further develop around Val de Fontenay, which is a mini La Défense business district in the East, and around Saint-Denis Pleyel (GPE's mega hub), another mini La Défense business district in the North.
While also improving housing around La Défense (the real one in the West), so that a smaller proportion of the business district's workers don't have to travel far.
Anyway, another aspect of the Region's plans is to severely limit sprawl (already happening) and to densify the inner and mid rings of suburbs, while substantially increasing transit speed and capacity without increasing distances.
This should allow a large part of the population to work in the vicinity of their home, while offering much faster and better transit to others that will find everything else they need nearby their home or their work.
Same for their children that will have kindergartens, schools, sports and entertainment venues nearby.
In the core city, the car is already reduced to the 4th mode of transportation, well behind walking, transit and cycling. More people move in the core city cycling than by driving, with some of the bike lanes having sky high traffic numbers.
The core city is only 105km², or about a 12 by 10 kilometer area and hosts about 2.5 millions people by night, and some days up to 6 millions during the day.
Those who live in the core city have much shorter distances on average to go to work. And they have literally everything they need close by.
A little over a decade ago that was my case, I used to live less than 15 minutes away from my work via metro or very energetic bike ride.
15-minute is a goal, but there's a realistical aspect to it, as you can only shape the evolution of a city to make that goal attainable for a larger portion of the population.
Some will have it all, and some will have everything they need but their work or university. Having everything but the main occupation location is already quite a progress.
And for some it will be 15-minute for all their needs and a reduction of their daily commute to much shorter durations.
The recently opened line 14's extension to Orlyv(Paris second international airport, like Gatwick or Newark) greatly reduced travel times for many people working at the airport or the giant fresh produce gross market of Rungis.
Some from 45 minutes to 10, 15 or 20 minutes.
@@lws7394 The number of inhabitants is irrelevant, it's the density and transit that's important.
Paris is a very dense city (denser than Barcelona), and similar to the "suburb" of Barcelona L'Hospitalet de Llobregat) but the city of Paris is just ~ 100 km2 and if you go to study out of the city it can be a long ride, although the new Grand Paris Express aims to change that.
In Barcelona there are plenty of university in the city, all are easily accessed by public transit. Even out of the city universities, like Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona (in Vallés Occidental) is connected with the regional/suburban lines S2, R7 and R8.
Rent is also not that hi as people here prefer a steady effortless income over more money. I live in the center and pay far less than the average as the owners that wanted to increase rent to the current norm decided that the prefer to get less for a renter they know that never bothered them with anything, does not cause problems and always pays on time.
i have a direct bus to where i work but I prefer to walk as it's only 2 km away.
One of the differences between the US and many cities in Europe is that people here prefer to walk and use public transit. They prefer to buy fresh products over processed food and small neighborhood shops over big chains. They still take their cart and go to the butcher. the fruit and vegetables store, the market (there are 39 of them all over the city) , Fish store, bakery etc. This is not unique to Barcelona or Europe in general, this is still the norm in many parts of the world.
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Maybe the whole thing comes from these two totally different lifestyles… For many Europeans it's "ok, what's new about that?" and when you need a 15 minutes bike ride to the grocery store, then you are probably "in the middle of nowhere". And on the other end, for many Americans it's difficult to understand that you can feed yourself without 45 minutes of gridlock.
Totally agree! Thanks for the comment 🙌 -Louis
Loved this episode, you guys are awesome
Appreciate the kind words 🙌 Tell your friends! Haha.... Thanks. -Louis
What I have never understood is that if 15 minute cities are so bad, why are they so expensive to live in??? Any area in big cities in the US that have sections like this are totally unaffordable for most people. If they are so bad...maybe they can move (worth a try) so the rest of us can afford to live there
Point 1: They are not bad ! They save a lot of time and money when you live in it, with many retail etc nearby. Suburbs are subsidized. If the city would tax enough for the utility, road and stormwater maintenance , the local tax for single family home streets would have to be a lot higher. Older , walkable area pay more tax and subsidize car dependency ( see Not Just Bikes about this and more on Strong Towns channel ). Usually walkable neighbourhoods are popular , but scarce because according zoning rules they are illegal to get build . They are hard to find .. If there would be more such neighbourhoods prices might ease down..
Dude feel this, livable places should be accessible to poor middle class and beyond.
@@alfredogarbanzo2276 Agreed! We need to build more places like thiso for that to happen IMO -Louis
@@TransitTangents I lived in something close to a 15min city when I was in school, and it was great! I hardly ever had to drive. I would happily live in one now. Between antiquated zoning rules and NIMBYs it's just not cost effective enough yet.
I live in one of the 2 most 15-minute cities in the world, Paris (the other is Barcelona).
Carlos Moreno is Paris' city hall adviser, and two neighborhoods were completely renewed and rebuilt following the best practices of the 15-minute city concept.
The first neighborhood is Rosa Parks in the 19th district, right next to the fairly recent transit exchange station named Rosa Parks (RER E, tram T3b, and in the future T8, plus bus lines).
It has a large UGC Ciné Cité cinema multiplex, restaurants, bars, kindergartens, schools, shops, doctor practices, dentists, a gym, parks, offices, a mall across the canal and loop road, the new justice ministry annex offices and lots of housing, private / market price, semi-social, and social.
This area was pretty derelict before, it was filled with abandoned buildings and warehouses, empty lots, etc.
The other neighborhood is in the 17th district near rue Mstislav Rostropovitch where there's an entry to the new station of line 14's 2020 extension. It's roughly located between stations Pont Cardinet and Porte de Clichy.
There's also a cinema multiplex, conventional and organic supermarkets, offices, restaurants, eateries, bars, kindergartens, schools, doctors, dentists, a park, a gym, a public sports venue...
The 3 types of housing, a mini mall, plus a lot of transit.
Namely metro 14 and Transilien L on one sude, metro 13 and 14, RER C and tram T3b on another side...
People living in these neighborhoods, especially the second one, are connected to major transportation hubs.
The Rosa Parks neighborhood is minutes away (one-seat ride) from Gare du Nord, a high-speed train station and the busiest station outside Japan.
The neighborhood in the 17th district is on 2 metro lines, 1 RER line (the regional express heavy metro) and the circular tram line.
People living there can reach a major high-speed train station (Gare de Lyon), the mega transit hubs of Châtelet-les-Halles and Haussmann-Saint-Lazare, Paris second international airport Orly airport, all in a simple one-seat ride in under 40 minutes for the airport (which is the Southern end of the line).
And if they go North a few stations on M14, they reach Saint-Denis Pleyel, the all-new mega transit hub of the Grand Paris Express, where they'll be able to change for the huge loop line (M15), a direct line to CDG airport (M17), an arch line (M16) crossing the Northeastern quadrant suburbs up to M15's tail terminus and RER A interchange, but also RER line D and Transilien line H that irrigate a wide part of the Northern suburbs.
So the crazies claiming that people will be forced to stay in their district are pretty ridiculous.
The people living in these neighborhoods have fabulous transit connectivity to anywhere they want.
The social and semi-social housing in these neighborhoods see very high demand.
Paris is already extremely well meshed with transit, but these neighborhoods push the transit capabilities and connectivity even one notch above.
With all the lines serving the 2 stations of this neighborhood, there's a train of some sort stopping there every few seconds.
It's brilliant!
Some even complained that the new one-seat metro access to Orly airport via M14 kinda diminish the efforts to prioritize high-speed trains, because there's about 20 minutes between Gare de Lyon and the airport now.
That's a transit-rich problem. 🤣
Barcelona is also a great 15-minute city, with the fabulous super illas measure (super blocks), the extensions of the metro network, including the great L9-L10, etc.
Sure, both cities were already very "15-minute-y" in their structure and density, but they really are capitalizing on it and further developing and implementing the concept.
Thanks so much for the detailed comment! We'll have to dig more into this Paris examples! Appreciate you watching 🙌 -Louis
now all they need to do is tax the yellow jackets for breathing
I think we built enough 45 min grid lock parking lot communities. Can someone explain what people are afraid of building some walkable communities like they have in the rest of the world outside the US and Canada?
Exactly! Thanks for watching.
Walkable communities is the pretty package they sell you to buy into the 15 Minute City model. Its the authoritarian undertones that that entails that's the problem
@@skurinski but even if that was true you could just live somewhere else. Aren’t the “authoritarians” just property developers who have no authority once the 15 min city is built?
You don't even have to be in an urban area to have a 15min city. We picked the area of the suburb we live in now is because we knew it would have a lot of places within biking distance. Just this week I made bike trips to HEB, the gym, summer camps to drop off kids, restaurants, and the park.
I'll add I did have to get prior permission from local authorities and show my ID at each sector crossing but it only added 45-60mins to my trip. Still faster than taking MOPAC into the city!
In San Diego we have an empty JC Penny converting to residential units. That’ll be fun for those living in the mall and all its amenities. 😃 And the Fashion Valley mall is connected to the light rail.
Interesting! We'll have to check out that project. Thanks for sharing (and for watching!) -Louis
Big fan of the 15 min city concept, its why I'm moving to the Triangle, so my sports car can stay in a garage and I can take transit everywhere.
I live near the Triangle and the bike-ability and transit is some of the best in Austin! -Louis
where I live here in France, it's "technically" a 15 minute city, many things are within walking distance, a grocery, many bakeries, a supercenter, a train station, even a really decent cinema, lots of restaurants though I wish we had more coffee shops, some of my medical doctors are close enough to walk to also, and if it's not within walking distance there are buses and trains to get to those places. But it's not perfect, we still have A LOT of traffic, even with all the transit in the area there are still a lot of cars and such, it's really annoying, and it makes biking slightly scary even with designated bike lanes (most are not on the street with the cars for some reason, so the bikes have to stop at every single intersection on some lanes), my particular section of town is a financial center so it feels a little too urban for me. There aren't that many "3rd places" or whatever that is. But I will give you this, it actually is nice being able to walk to the store instead of needing to drive though I still need grocery delivery sometimes because I don't have a car to do really big shopping with. And honestly, overall it still feels pretty safe here even with a major train station near by.
I think many cities had this , where you could not buy single family or duplex homes, you needed to rent. It was called redlining .
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Further proof that Joe Rogan is full of something that you might spread on your garden after lengthy composting.
ive been living car free for two years in chicago. currently live in andersonville but my next place is a 3 minute walk to the L station.
I think it's kind of sad that many people's first impulse to new ideas is fear. I guess it's understandable. We definitely have to focus on the benefits of a 15min city to combat this conspiracy theory.
What's even is more sad........it isn't a new idea, it's how we lived for hundreds of years.
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One thing to note and that is quite a good argument in my opinion :
For those who fear a loss of freedom, do you really think that France, where unrest brewing or erupting here and there is just another day ending in y, would even remotely consider the 15-minute city concept if it was what the crazies say it is?
Let alone have the capital city be one of the spearheads of the concept, as it is now?
If there were such restrictions that some like Joe R9gan claim will be, the Frenchies would be up in arms enacting an umpteenth revolution... 😂
Remember that they've done massive labor strikes and demonstrations, rioted, and burned a lot of things just because the government moved back the retirement age a couple years... so, movement restrictions ? Nah, even in a movie this would be too unrealistic and farfetched.
Many are already fulminating because of a few temporary route restrictions due to the Olympics...
Plus, why spending dozens of billions on massive public transit expansions if it's not to improve and facilitate mobility?
If it was an open-air prison like some claim it will be, then the first thing to do would be to build barriers, not 200 kilometers of new escape routes called metro lines.... and new high-speed train lines...duh.
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It really is mind-boggling how some people can have such weird, yet definitive ideas while ignoring such major proofs that they are in the wrong.
No government would build that much transportation infrastructure if they planned to limit mobility.
(Sorry for the double comment, I only finished the video today).
yes they would, 15 minute cities were enforced during Covid lockdowns where you couldnt go to one side of the city without a report, it happened here in Porto, Portugal
@@skurinski But this had absolutely nothing to do with 15-minute cities, nothing! It was a public health lockdown measure. If you can't see the difference, it is worrying...
8:32 Top picture literally looks like a bomb went off and humanity is just starting to rebuild from the center outward.
711's DO NOT COUNT!
Nice video-avoid the stock footage (e.g. the tin foil hat guy). It’s unnecessary. You could easily have worn the tin foil hats yourselves in the intro-and it would have been cute. Also, I would have loved seeing you walking around a community talking rather than sitting in a sofa.
The problem with progressive policies is “not yet but eventually “ it’s like the lockdowns never happened.
Not sure where you live, but were you ever actually forced to "lock down" even during COVID? I was still able to leave my city, state, etc.... Were there some new rules? Yes. But restriction of travel within our own country in the US never really happened.... -Louis
It pisses me off so much listening to Joe Rogan
Any conversation on his podcast that has the tiniest thread linking it to the pandemic or lockdown derails the whole episode into how the United States is basically North Korea
same
@@kEaNeKlEiBeR and he would be right, you might forgot 2020/2021 but the rest of us havent
Chicken coop city, you get feed and protected and then all your production “eggs” is taken from you . What could go wrong?
where is that happening?
@@kelseyhuse metaphor
@@stanhry i know lol where is the metaphor happening?
@@kelseyhuse but seriously, during the lockdowns in Europe and progressive cities in the USA , you were restricted from travel or leaving your home. Urban planning general goal is to remove all private motorists from the streets and low density housing ownership. That is their stated goals.
@@stanhry LOL ok
2:39 don’t forget a ‘able to get everywhere I need by rail in 15 minutes’ city! 🚃👍