Mastering The INTP Unconscious Shadow Functions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- The INTP has beyond their conscious functions, many unconscious personality traits. These are personality traits they are less aware of or completely unaware of. The shadow functions are extroverted intuition, extroverted thinking, introverted feeling, and introverted sensing. They are also thinking judging, intuitive judging, feeling perceiving, and sensing perceiving. What inhibits our ability to engage in or deal with the unconscious is our need for conscious control. It is also our strong desire to understand. Most importantly, it is our fear of being vulnerable or of not knowing what we are doing. The INTP Scientist wants to understand so much that it can avoid real opportunities and possibilities. Often, after going into the auxiliary, we experience a moment of heightened vulnerability or fear of judgement. The unconscious, inspirational function can feel scary or vulnerable. The unconscious autopilot on the other hand, we tend to deny we have outright. We do a lot of things every day but because they feel mundane we do not think them through carefully. We get lazy about certain things, and so, we miss their importance. But if we don't know our unconscious, how can we ever know ourselves?
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Personally, I have lots of single-minded ambition regarding my chosen career. Unfortunately, I struggle terribly with applying myself and getting useful things done. I hate self-promotion, and networking. When it comes to practicalities like choosing repertoire or exactly what to say in a cover letter, my brain is then bombarded by the sheer number of possibilities and "what if?"s. It takes me forever to come to a decision.
yes, shit
As an INTP I would love to lunch people in the face but I don't. I do go on autopilot a lot. Things come so easy to me and people swear I'm trying when I'm not. I will finish tasks within an hour and then daydream the rest of the time at work. Then people will praise me like I did something major.
INTP power 💪🏽😇
I just quit my job because I would get pulled aside for being caught daydreaming while at work despite the fact that I had completed all my tasks efficiently and would go out of my way to do things for my coworkers as well. Still overheard gossip about me being a lazy airhead for not "looking busy".
Like the time when you complete your exams too early and with the least amount of paper that everyone thinks that you are dropping the exam...and later you bring an above average score.
gg autopilot
sounds more like an istp or infj why do you think youre an intp
If a task is logical you easily ace it. If I encounter a problem my Ne comes up with a solution to improve the workproces.
INTP dont like to do things nthat are unnecesary so we slim down the proces to only the necesary.
We ask ourselves. Why dobwe do things that way?
If we cant find a reason we eject it.
It is all about efficiency to get things out of the way.
For what purpose?
To have time to daydream. To get our mind into the free flow of things.
Damn, man you don't know how much of my life I spent being my own enemy, I simply couldn't stop being overly critical of my lack of "intelligence", and that held me back big time that can really make THE capital hell for an intp, mediocrity in every corner, terrible results, people becoming disappointed, a never findable answer as to what's happening, I tied my own hands, never being as good as I wanted, thanks to my own ignorance about an autopilot's "setting" lol.
Hello Erik. I enjoyed this video because it spoke directly to the INTP desire to develop unconscious functions and I have been looking for a video that addresses this topic directly. It would be good to have more examples, though, because that would make it easier to translate the ideas into concrete advice. I think the topic of INTP relation to ENTJ and how to access Te and Se is an incredibly interesting topic.
my favorite videos are by you! Very precise and on point! I've always tended to go against my laziness and tried to use the entj shadow, so ive beena ble to achieve a lot doing what you said.. so if you re an intp reading this, go for it! Figure out what is of the utmost importance to you and put in all the work needed and a bit extra more towars completing it, it cannot be more worth it ;)
I still tend to have to begin thinking about how to hink about thinking about what im going o do before i do it.. So I end up procrastinating for a week at the least to start doing what i want to do. Good thing is as soon as i start i dont stop at least.
How interesting! I remember I had to take a .mbti test and do it accordingly how I am healthy and at work and I got an ENTJ. But I'm most definitely an intp by nature. So it makes so much sense that my dream self is an ENTJ
You make really good,accurate, and inspiring videos. I appreciate the truth about us intp’s.
Great video my friend.. You helped me knowing who i am... I had hard time figuring i'm an INTP chained to "Guilt" that i'm stuck for long periods of time in my hero good naive brave subconscious..
Fellow INTPs dont get blackmailed by GUILT.. A combination of (GUILT+childich comfort zone) can turn you to the stupidest creature on earth... You will notice it and you will hate yourself for it cause you are smart.
Fellow young INTPs i'm 32 and i'm telling you this:
_Cherish only your family and close friends.. The others can always go to hell.
_Don't get too comfortable.. Learn skills cause It will kill you in your 30's if you're still attached to your World of warcraft account or your one-piece world.
_Don't get blackmailed by emotional guilt and self loathing (give affection only to your tiny beloved group.. People in general will use you and you will know it.. Crush them with intelligence.
_Keep time to read and to learn... It's our core... Even if you are a Mafia member... You are a nerd and you know it... Dont lose your hero Ti to please your stupid ENTJ girlfriend.
You are what you are.. People must take it or leave it (exept your family or what you consider family)
As an INTP I wanna ask if family is a choice for them? I kinda picked my mom and dad out of the picture, because they have been mental harassing me since I was a child. Is that okay? I don't feel bad about it, or miss loving them. They always make shit worse that it is, imagine all my problems getting x2ed because of my dad's stupid commitment of guilt tripping me. I don't think my dad love me either, yes he love me ofc like every parent does that, here's a gold medal for your opinion. But what's compared to love standards, he seems like he hate me. And my mom has been trying to use me like a pawn since little. I don't think that they deserve anything from me, as I'm better than them in any way possible, and I can't look up to people that im simply just faster, and on top of that my dad hates me and my mom think I'm a chess game
@@jakobfroberg6715 Hmm regardless of the familial/genetic ties, you can pick yourself a family. Not necessarily bloodrelated BC thatd be pointless if respect is going out the window. If ppl value you, respect you, appreciate the unique you, and any of the good stuff then go for it. Although it'd take a long time to find ppl like that, you get to keep them once found. Ah never mind. You might just have to figure it out yourself what works for you. Best of luck!
And now I'm pondering about luck 😆
As an intp this video its what I have been seeking and has helped alot
Have you ever heard of unrepresented thought? It’s a psychological l term for thinking without words or symbols. This would explain INTP traits we are aware of, so I am curious if this is something others have experienced. I believe we can concurrently be in UT while having a conscious awareness. But to your point, I’m often not actively thinking about the mundane tasks I am doing, mentally I’m somewhere else.
This is what I'm most interested and fascinated and digging-into lately, the shadow functions and how they apply and when and so on.
Great timing and video. I reaaally hope you do one of these for the INFJ as well, so I can get more perspectives and insights to build on it. Thank you Erik!
Since you ask, ofcourse I will! :)
Aren't you the best man on TH-cam? Yeees you are!
I appreciate this so much. I'm dating an ISFP and I think hearing this tells me why we work despite being opposite according to the stack.
The problem I've run into being an INTP seems to be that I've taken in an excess of outer world information by living and over analyzing. Then creating the mental picture (simulation), then becoming reclusive.
The "problem" I'm seeing that i'm trying to "solve" has to do a lot with the mind. So I took the time to read into neuroscience, but realized after doing some research that it was missing a spiritual aspect. The need to mix neuroscience with spiritual led me to meditation, but meditation lacks real world results, not so much as it doesn't produce it but that it's hard to talk people into sitting still for a period of time and doing nothing. Leading me to physics and the laws of the world, but midway through a physics book I did research on physicist and it didn't seem that they produced many things, but instead made discoveries (which is cool, but I want to create something). Leading me to the role of entrepreneurship that helped me find Elon and Peter Thiel, whom created many businesses that branched from computer science, which led me to creating the blockchain that i'm creating now. Blockchain opened me up to Symbolic Systems and my original background was having a background in basketball, interest in comedy, video games, having a little social anxiety, not really having a religion but being an avid reader of Stoicism and Marcus Aurelius and majoring in political communication.
I say that to say I see this vast array of subjects that intertwine in some way in my head (and many INTP's heads). My problem that I'm trying to solve has a lot to do with optimization, and like Tesla, I'm creating prototypes in my head that I'm not recording or putting out.
I have an affinity for flow states and meditation only because I see the common problem now is as a society we're delving deeper and deeper into depression and anxiety among the masses of kids my age, and true presence comes with feeling, developing and being yourself, not copying others you see online (not to sound all heady). I don't understand why and I don't want to solely blame technology on this issue because I believe in some way it can help. The "dry technical or academic work" (lmao) is primarily because while trying to develop a social life i'm realizing what i'm aiming for mixes physics and the laws of the land with something that can't be seen, almost akin to consciousness.
I want to build almost the LA Fitness of optimization. A company that leads in self-awareness. If I provide you with all the information you need on yourself and utilize computer science (technology), and mix in what you really imagine for yourself using meditation, neuroscience, psychological test, etc. I can provide you with who you truly want to be. It's more for people in general, but mainly my age in that confused 18-25 bracket that want to make an impact but dont know what to do.
A way to know yourself biologically and psychologically, while allowing yourself to create based on what you imagine. I almost want to delve into the world within your head and see how you allow yourself to live in there. Not necessarily your brain, but almost your consciousness. What are your desires and fears, and what can I help you create for yourself. Facebook, Tumblr, twitter, TH-cam, Linkedin, etc. are doing the same thing. They're providing you with platforms that allow you to create a world that you can broadcast to everyone else. You have the ability to customize these worlds in a manner that you see fit. Not only that but you can visit other profiles to draw inspiration to add to yours, in essence making YOUR world/page better. Not only for social consumption, but for personal gain/entertainment. Physics has an M-8 theory of universes, and it reminded me of what these platforms do. They give us full autonomy (with some rules and standards) to create a world that we want and how we see fit that is under our immediate control. They're just allowing you to broadcast your imagination (world) online in a way to gain whatever you want based on how you create it. Computer science, psych, physics, etc. I don't even know where to start. So the lack of objectivity is stemming from a need for a place to start.
Finding a way to display your imagination and share it with others, and vice versa.
I'm realizing I don't know what I want to do, because I don't know the label to what I want to do. Add on the fact that I'm over analytical, it feels almost by choice, and i produce DIATRIBES that don't fully grasp what I'm trying to say.
Thank you for this and explaining the need to not over stress and to allow yourself to develop an ethical system that allows you to follow on a path that brings you flow, and absolves you from overthinking.
Also, do you find that (healthy) INTP's are better off working for themselves or for someone else?
'meditation lacks real world results, not so much as it doesn't produce it but that it's hard to talk people into sitting still for a period of time and doing nothing.' This is not what meditating is or how you should go about it, you are expecting wrong results.
its not the purpose..but it's literally what you do in order to meditate. It's the reason it's hard to get meditation to scale the way it should based off how healthy it is for you. Most require you to not do anything and sit still, the lack of real world practicality is in the fact that its hard convincing people to do it consistently because it isn't the norm. But if I'm wrong please tell me where in mediation it doesn't require you, at some point, to sit still and do nothing physically?
I'd guess mediation works better for Ni types, as their Ni is given the oppertunity to do it's job while the person is not actively doing anything. They can increase the amoutn of processing Ni is doing. However, I do not think Ne types are helped that much by mediation, since the function does require something to work with, rather than a lack of a something as is the case with Ni.
As far as INTP's working for themselves > I think it works better for INTP's to work for themselves, or at least not for any kind of boss. INTP's are independant types. However, possibly someone to work with could help, because it could help you to get into action-mode a bit more and something/someone to respond to (so as perceiver do not have to initiate - which is more energy consuming for intps). However, working together should only be done with someone you feel good with.
As someone who has thought that exact chain of topics before lol, working for yourself is way better at the end of the day. Days get long when you work under direction of most people unless you actually feel that person actually does a better job then you but odds are that's not going to happen. But also business is not the easiest for us, depending on type of business I guess, but there are a lot of tasks that we are not good at that have to be done. If it's a bigger business or a business that needs that personable bullshit front man everyday find someone you trust to be partners with to do the business end of business. If you don't you will get too distracted and won't be able to have the thinking time to focus on whatever happens in your field of business.
Not sure if that will all make sense tried to generalize it for different types of business.
@@michaelmorningstar3662 no
I’m just going to try to be a richly turd like my ENTJ friend but I’m going to do it in a lazy way that actually works cuz im i n t p
I think I have struggled with not being ethical and making bad decisions that caused a lot of problems for me. It was hard asking those questions like what it is I want and believe, then deciding what I need to do to get it and then seeing it through. I wasn't asking the right questions and I didn't understand myself at all. I lost everything and ended up in some dark places, it wasn't until I got serious and started studying about psychology and MBTI that I made huge changes. I had bad habits, negative self talk, delusional thoughts and false beliefs that kept me suffering. I'm still struggling with focus and my beliefs but I'm a lot closer to where I need to be. Thanks for sharing, I think you go over the really deep issues that personality types struggle with and make it easier to understand. These topics are not easy to talk about and I'm glad we have someone intelligent like you to break it down for us. Keep up the good work. 😊👍
Intp not being ambitious? I am the most ambitious person I know. I want to be the best at everything. If that is not being ambitious then I don't know what it is. And I'm sure that might be common for INTPs.
Yes it's a major trait for INTP to seek for self improvement But as we tend to consider ourself as the only reliable judge (people are to soft...) we get stuck in a race against ourself. Ambition is turn on the outside and ambitious don't needs to be the best but only been judge as the best and I'm sure this is not what you look after...
it’s interesting. i do have these bouts of going into isfp mode typically when i’m depressed or i’m upset at myself for not making the most rational decisions. and it’s not a natural state. i feel tethered and trapped in emotions. it all feels so abstract. however, i do appreciate when these bouts of isfp come out with creativity. it feels nice and novel and interesting. i become obsessed with capturing moments because life seem so fleeting.
Wow bro thank you so much for this. Seriously
Thank you very much, Eric! You are helping me figuring out my struggles. I really appreciate your videos!
Awesome video, Erik. Thank you very much for this.
Thank you, I just figured out I was on autopilot my whole life and now it is weird that I actually have to make a decision in life. What happened to my constant autopilot meditation? 😭 I have to start talking to my ENTJ friend again because I idolized them too much and became critical when they were not perfect and had major logical fallacies. I didn’t know that I was INTP or that ITNPs we’re actually good at logic. I just thought everyone was logical but willingly denied truth and perverted truth for self-motivated malicious reasons. 😭😭😭
My INTP brothers will really mis out if they don't follow this profound advice.
This is true, sometimes I wish to be for work an ENTJ.
Great video, thank you. Very insightful and helpful for self-reflection and self-awareness.
My traits have been so much confusing me that, whenever I had been taking the test, (over a certain interval of time) I was either an INFJ, INFP, ENFP or INTJ. After a lot of understanding and self learning, I discovered, I'm actually INTP, The Philosopher to be exact. And after reading some of Jung's work on shadow integration, I was understanding a few aspects of me but I wasn't clear. So, much thanks to you Eric, it's being a bit more easier for me to understand and integrate my shadow. Thank you!
It could be difficult for us to find our type because we tend to confuse what we understand with how we understand. Like an eye blind to himself we seek our image in the knowledge of things and it could takes time to realise that we are not the view but the sight. An older INTP philosopher brother.
@@lvonh9388 thank you. After some research and understanding, I've confirmed I'm purely INTP, it surely was hard to understand. But now I understand a lot of my cognitive function and why I do certain things the way i do. I'm in a bit of a deeper journey now. Since you are an older INTP philosopher, would you like to give me some tips or some advice that might help me? It would be really helpful. :)
@@somrajsaha3215 Don't get stuck with logic and Ti like a lot of bitter intps. It's your strength and it's not going anyway. But it's just a tool. The only thing you can learn at staring at your own mind is what you already know. Interaction with the world and other is the key and the shortcut. Compassion is the great teacher and extravert intuition is the way to grow, feed it with new experience. Get physical the more you can, seek for inconfort and don't let the fear hold you back. Always push yourself and open up. This journey gone be hard and it never ends but it's the only one so learn to love it. Stay honest, curious and confident your mind will always find is way. All the best.
@@lvonh9388 Thank you. 😊
Amazing stuff, thank you
Super helpful, thanks.
Thank you.
In my teen years I was a ESFP
When I watched this, my eyes opened real big like @_@ and then I felt like I was in a different mindset :o
If I understand correctly, we (INTPs) have the ENTJ as our "dream personality", because that's our shadow (Te-Ni-Se-Fi). It also means that ENTJs have the INTP functions as their shadow. So does an ENTJ also secretly want to become an INTP? Or is this more an INTP --> ENTJ (unidirectional) thing? :)
Erik reminds me of that animated show Timon and Pumba...thanks for this video.
lol loved that show, hakuna matata!
Today I saw a 2 of your videos and you are saying everything I know everything I know I need to do with mysel I forget what is your name than I will call you a human :D I have a problem with me I know who I am I know literally everything about me as an INTP and the world but I dont know even I know but it makes a more and more questions and here we are to the point that I really dont know why I dont want to work on myself to be happy and enjoy the life ..I really dont know why I dont want a motivation I feel like I am dying and wondering why I am still alive
Hehe. I think our idealization of the ENTJ probably explains why I was infatuated with a certain ENTJ girl years. This was of course unrequited since they’re typically only attracted to men even more domineering than they are
Believe me, friend, you'll be much more peacefull this way, as their domineering Nature can vê absolutelly exausting and oppressive. You are actually Lucky...
this is so wrong
@@rogerbee1234567 so wrong
This is relatable
Great advice bro. I am new to your content, but I am really liking what I see. I have INTJ or ENTJ friends that I have given in depth ideas to when in my "inspiration mode" or "moments of clarity mode" as I call them that they embrace and run with only for me to later be not interested (as I have moved onto another subject) and thus they also become uninterested because I just stop talking about it or don't respond to there intuition about it (perhaps I had the initial control over it). Your advice seems to be that I should force myself to still engage in these ideas despite being disinterested because doing so will bring me a better future? I must ask, do you not also see the devalue in forcing yourself to be interested in something you are no longer interested in? Does your level of intuition not tank at that point as an INTP? Man, I really sound like an INTP lol
Well, I think everyone has a level that is "What they already know and have realized about themselves" and then "What they don't know and have yet to realize about themselves." I am saying focus on turning things that scare you, things that are hard for you, into things you can do. So do things you love, and also do things that you love, but are afraid to try out. Go outside your comfort zone but stay in your flow zone. So you don't need to do things you dislike, but you should do things that occassionaly bring you stress or anxiety. Does that make sense?
Thanks 😊 my daughter and husband never knew
I like taking screenshots of written information so I can go back later and read it if I deem the specifics important. It seldom ever is like 1/5000 (idk) and I usually can just remember what it was anyways and type it into a search engine. *mumble*
I don't feel my dream self is an ENTJ I only feel good when I let the ISFP drive me.
Maybe you're an ISFP then? 😊
@@ErikThor if only ;) music and get on stage have been a way to overcome Ti overload and Fe weakness for almost 20 years now I guess this is why... BTW thanks for all you done you have an amazing insight, sometimes it's like seeing some transcendent tru flowing thru your mouth and I'm sure you're feeling this way.
You might replace the word "represents" with the word "corresponds" when applicable. Great video, thanks!
Extremely worthy, thank you so much!! By the way: where did you learn that, where do you have your information from? For example, that with the emotional meaning of the second and mental for the third function. And how do you 'compute' what type your admired and your autopilot is. Changing on the S-N- / P/J- axis? For every type? Is there a MBTI-bible or sth hahaha
As an INTP college student people get mad at me because I leverage me hosting them and having snacks readily available with them getting the door or handing me stuff 😂
hello, would you be able to make a questionnaire form to answer to fill out the unconscious part?
Are you in the Netherlands mate? I see an NS intercity in the background 🤣
Well, I am really struggling on classify my personality as an INFP or INTP. I had friends I admired and followed just because of their brainer deeds but I feel myself a fraud because I have never finished coding studies, playing in a band, e-marketing, translation jobs and ended up being a teacher of English. Always felt myself incomplete jumping ramdomly after a time.
Sounds like what you seek isn't to succeed in your goals, but to be competent and to have knowledge within the fields and environments you move in. If you're just looking for competence, you're already halfway there. True competence requires you to be able to translate your skills to goals though.
@@ErikThor Yep, that seems to be true, my broadest goal I'm planning for life joins all these competences, My english studies improve my music and my teaching, my coding and design, homestudio... currently I ve binded every competence into an TH-cam channel initiative teaching videos... I think this is practical, but in fact it isn't huh?
The rhythm of your voice is unusual... Where are you from? It's like listening to a melody (which is slightly distracting for me) but it's a cool trait nonetheless
He's swedish i believe.
Tbh I’m relatively ambitious aggressively so at times I just cba to do...well ....anything
Why do you speak the “just“ in the way you do? Is that a dialect?
Nice I just learned *haha* *thisissocool* *isthiswhypeopledothis*
I believe that anyone can be whatever they want at any time by struggling to retrain themselves. So what do I do with that? lmao
True! 😁😂
Shouldn't my unconscious remain so?
Why?
Why do you think you have over 12 times as many subscribers as me? Even though I have been around for years and have done multiple videos with Dr. Dario 'EEG' Nardi (INTJ), Katherine 'Tritype' Fauvre, Tom Condon, Dr. Victor 'Model G' Gulenko (INTP), and Dr. David Mark Keirsey (INTP). Are my videos just too in-depth? Too INTP?
If you want help I can teach you a bunch of tricks you can use to improve your videos, most of the time even if you make a good video, you never get picked up or people just miss you in the mass of all the online content out there, in part because you can improve SEO and titles and tags a lot, but you have a nice and curious personality, and intps can become very succesful on youtube (arguably, intps make some of the most interesting youtubers) so check out Game Theory, PewDiePie and Academy Of Ideas and others to learn about how. :)
Your scenario is too messed up and too all over the place. Try to be more organized, more to the point, and work on the visual aspect on the video, make sure you and your scenario looks good. Just my 2 cents.
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Are you INTP?
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INTP bigest problem is the data, absorb all the data of the enviroments all the time, try to make sense and Logic to all the huge data is fucking caos, you forget usefull things. if you dont use your strenght for good porpuse you are Wasting time
So true, TI-Si loop forever thinking and gathering data without doing anything