Storm Bringer777 It doesn't really help that Frontier's Lucemon had the data of a good 99.9% of the Digital World, as well as two Royal Knights in it's system.
I laugh at those people who say Frontier Lucemon was the strongest one just because he absorbed the digital world's data. Lucemon put an end to the war between Animal and Human Digimon by himself and ten AncientDigimon were required to beat him down, with only two of them surviving. Zero data absorbed.
I think it still stands, consider that when they fought Frontier Lucemon he had amassed all the data in the digital world and manhandled both Emperorgreymon and Magnagarurumon at once with little effort, and it took Susanomon to beat him. I doubt Shakkoumon's interference would have had any effect on Frontier Lucemon, but it was enough to give Shoutmon X4B the edge he needed against Xros Wars Lucemon.
Even those this fight power level make sense. People just forgetting there multiple version thing exist and how it abit disrespecting the strongest demon get beating by something that is not a god.
@@Aibadenshi in some cases digimon media has stated that evolution level is not the end all for power, in dawn and dusk we are introduced baby digimons that can square up against ultimate levels. Adults beating perfects and keeping up against ultimates with amps, etc. At this point levels are secondary. I mean simbaangramon has the most legit Ws against perfect levels out of the ghost game casts as an adult. digimon
@@CVargas202 I mean canon lucemon differs, plus if we go by that it could be argued that this shoutmon X4b is equal to lucemon since beelzebumon is stated numerous times to be able to square up against lucemon (though beating him is an alltogether different matter) as he's basically at the upper tiers around the 7 sins digimons. so in a way because xros fusion is stated to be like a potara fusion, beelzebumon being part of X4b would mean that at worst he can square up against lucemon.
I'd also consider Omnimon X, who can reset the Digital World with his 'All Delete' move. Also Huanlongmon, who is the leader of the Sovereigns, so most likely even more powerful than them.
Initially Xross Wars didn´t used Evolution Lv, but now that XW Digimons have official Lv, this match up does less sense coz both are Perfect Lv but Lucemon FM is still stronger than Ultimate Lv
Xros wars lore works a bit different because of that. Like you said, in xros wars evolution levels don't exists, that's part of the lore of that universe. That means even the most powerful mega level digimon in xros wars may even be weaker than your average perfect level digimon.
Xros War didn't make use of the Level System, and so therefore the strength of some digimon are different from their other iterations. In some ways, this was a poor choice, as it has resulted in some incredibly powerful Digimon like Lucemon here get clowned on, as their strength is set to "Monster of the Week" rather than "Final Boss". Meanwhile, in other ways, it also meant that the show could actually USE Digimon like Lucemon without the constraints of Lucemon's strength in previous lore. It also meant that certain matchups weren't already immediately set in stone, since any fight that's with a Digimon at a level higher than what the protagonists are capable of at that time is just a fight that we know the winner of already. TLDR, Xros Wars doesn't really follow the level system and thats a decision with it's ups and downs.
Bro Lucemon literally fight under Lilithmon and Xros Wars,meanwhile actually Lucemon is most superior between all 7 Demon Lord including Lilithmon..seem Xros has it own rules
@@sabarbudiman5595 So what the data was only needed to break the seal that trapped it in the dark zone. Back before its first defeat did it take 10 super powerful Mega Digimon from which 8 died in the process to take it down and seal it.
@@ilhamardanta4737yeah. In Xros Wars, the Digimon lost their ability to evolve because the humans lost their drive to improve. Because of this, many Digimon are born with their current form, meaning that a Greymon was born as a Greymon and didn't evolve from an Agumon, meaning that is probable that is a Greymon weaker that a normal one because it is young. The most similar thing to "evolution" is when a Digimon manage to obtain a new form though training and a lot of time. Meaning that it is more like maturing and growing than a straight evolution. The Super Evolution Taiki and others use to make their Digimon stronger (For example, OmegaShoutmon and Arresterdramon) is actually a leap into their future, more mature forms.
I love Watching people argument in the comments meanwhile there’s me who has only ever watched digimon fusion (it was my childhood and at the time I had no clue there were other digimon anime)
This series just doesn't make sense. Lucemon is the servant of Lilithmon the weakest demon lord, and Fanglongmon is Dorickmon's servant, and Leviamon is good...
This Lucemon is weaker than the regular Lucemon, so is a servant of another demon lord to become stronger. fanglongmon part is stupid, yes. and Leviamon is not good, is a spirit, you summon him, and he attacks, that's it.
I wouldn't say that, Shoutmon X4b had Beelzemon who is also a great demon lord, then again in this one Lilithmon was stronger than Lucemon chaos mode who is suppose to be the strongest demon lord digimon and i think lilithmon is suppose to be the weakest
Lilithmon it's literally an ophanimon, one of the holiest Digimon which ended up in the dark area resulting in it being turned into Lilithmon, may not be the strongest among the Demon Lords but it is certainly a force to be reckoned with
I believe the only type of digimon that could rival Susanoomon's power is Galantmon crimsin mode. That is because he has the power to fight and rival even what the four sovoreign fear.
@@MASTERSOT I don't know much about Alphamon, but I don't think any of the Royal Knight can fight 1v1 against someone that one shot Lucemon with digital world worth of data inside them.
Well there's too many megas introduced in Xros Wars, and fusion of digimon also produces mega-like digimon so everybody appears to be a little normal in the series, because most battles are basically megas vs megas
Aqui demuestran que un Digimon que solo es la fusión de 4 vencío a un Digimon que dependió de fusionar los 10 guerreros legendarios literalmente nos muestran que aquí todos están nerfeados y el sistema de digivolve no funciona por qué si hubiera sido el lucemon de frontier ni X7 superior mode hubiera servido ya que x7 contra susanoomon usando todo su poder si vimos que susanoomon tiene el poder para vence varios Royal Knights en modo X significa que este lucemon es un chiste si lo comparamos con el verdadero
And I dunno about you, but I don't see Shoutmon X4B being on Susanomon's level, who in the manga has the power to delete and rewrite the Digital World, and is the fusion of all the Legendary Warriors. Maybe Adventure Omnimon level, but doubtfully Susanomon level.
No one will acknowledge that the angel Digimon were right all along? That there’s a reason they had such an iron grip in such a sacred holy region? To prevent this very exact kind of collapse???? Lucemon used “peace and love” to manipulate the angels and had them vote against law and order. And y’all got what y’all deserved.
Éste es uno débil. El de Frontier era el Demon Lord, por eso tan fuerte. Aunque de por sí, el Lucemon base rivaliza con digimon Perfeccionados y algunos Definitivos. Obviamente ganan porque es una versión más débil del mismo, pero también tienen el poder de Beelzebumon, que sería una versión mejorada del original.
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The power level here is just…. Nonexistent
If this was Lucemon from Digimon Frontier then Shoutmon would've instantly lost.
Storm Bringer777 It doesn't really help that Frontier's Lucemon had the data of a good 99.9% of the Digital World, as well as two Royal Knights in it's system.
Yeah. At that point he was powerful enough to casually bust multiple moons.
Storm Bringer777 Well shoutmon fused with beelzemon, one of seven demon lords too you know
+Storm Bringer777 Not the same one :D
***** Lol I know. XD
I laugh at those people who say Frontier Lucemon was the strongest one just because he absorbed the digital world's data. Lucemon put an end to the war between Animal and Human Digimon by himself and ten AncientDigimon were required to beat him down, with only two of them surviving. Zero data absorbed.
AD3adly Assass1n Lol, Susanoomon is the fusion of all twenty Spirits of the Legendary Warriors. Try again
AD3adly Assass1n Susanoomon as its name says is a Digimon LOL
The Lucemon of Frontier is a Demon Lord; this one is only a weaker version of Lucemon FM.
+Gaara del Desierto Gaara, , do you speak Spanish? It's only a question.
Obviously Lucemon was way weaker here because he is introduced as Lillithmon henchmen which is stupid... 😂
There's something charming about it ngl
I know this battle dont make very senses (I mean its a f*cking Demon Lord) but I totally love it
Technically it was a Demon Lord Vs a Digimon with the potential of a Royal Knight in it's data x Another Demon Lord x three really strong Digimon
The music in the background is called "x4b the guardian" singing by kouji wada!
I find it kinda funny that he know takes orders from fucking Lilithmon
I think it still stands, consider that when they fought Frontier Lucemon he had amassed all the data in the digital world and manhandled both Emperorgreymon and Magnagarurumon at once with little effort, and it took Susanomon to beat him. I doubt Shakkoumon's interference would have had any effect on Frontier Lucemon, but it was enough to give Shoutmon X4B the edge he needed against Xros Wars Lucemon.
Kaisergreymon :P
Even those this fight power level make sense.
People just forgetting there multiple version thing exist and how it abit disrespecting the strongest demon get beating by something that is not a god.
@@Aibadenshi in some cases digimon media has stated that evolution level is not the end all for power, in dawn and dusk we are introduced baby digimons that can square up against ultimate levels. Adults beating perfects and keeping up against ultimates with amps, etc. At this point levels are secondary. I mean simbaangramon has the most legit Ws against perfect levels out of the ghost game casts as an adult. digimon
@@nekoluxuria7721 i mean if we go by canon lucemon rookie mode should had been enough to beat Shoutmon X4b
@@CVargas202 I mean canon lucemon differs, plus if we go by that it could be argued that this shoutmon X4b is equal to lucemon since beelzebumon is stated numerous times to be able to square up against lucemon (though beating him is an alltogether different matter) as he's basically at the upper tiers around the 7 sins digimons. so in a way because xros fusion is stated to be like a potara fusion, beelzebumon being part of X4b would mean that at worst he can square up against lucemon.
I'd also consider Omnimon X, who can reset the Digital World with his 'All Delete' move. Also Huanlongmon, who is the leader of the Sovereigns, so most likely even more powerful than them.
Initially Xross Wars didn´t used Evolution Lv, but now that XW Digimons have official Lv, this match up does less sense coz both are Perfect Lv but Lucemon FM is still stronger than Ultimate Lv
I mean the question is why is shoutmon x4b perfect level when one of it's components, beelzebumon BM is ultimate level.
@@nekoluxuria7721 and adding Sparrowmon the Child lv makes it Ultimate
Xros wars lore works a bit different because of that. Like you said, in xros wars evolution levels don't exists, that's part of the lore of that universe. That means even the most powerful mega level digimon in xros wars may even be weaker than your average perfect level digimon.
Xross wars follow the formula of the original digimon adventuree where it more strategy to beat the opponent
@@EPGamer22the original Digimon adventure is the show where 1 perfect level was shit stomping all other digimon until metal greymon pop up
This is literally, Satan vs a fucking megazord
WTF? Shoutmon can block Dead or Alive? Even Susanomon can't block it with anything.
Jerry Tang This isnt the same one in frontier or the great demon lord in digimon lore. Its a much more weaker version.
The signs are obvious.
I feel like Susanomon just want to tank it instead of can't block it.
Original Beelzemon from tamer was one of the seven demon Lord's correct? And this beelzemon is a holy version?
How can digimon frontier final villain been defeated so easily by shoutmon x4b not even shoutmon x7 or x6b!
Xros War didn't make use of the Level System, and so therefore the strength of some digimon are different from their other iterations. In some ways, this was a poor choice, as it has resulted in some incredibly powerful Digimon like Lucemon here get clowned on, as their strength is set to "Monster of the Week" rather than "Final Boss". Meanwhile, in other ways, it also meant that the show could actually USE Digimon like Lucemon without the constraints of Lucemon's strength in previous lore. It also meant that certain matchups weren't already immediately set in stone, since any fight that's with a Digimon at a level higher than what the protagonists are capable of at that time is just a fight that we know the winner of already.
TLDR, Xros Wars doesn't really follow the level system and thats a decision with it's ups and downs.
On Digimon Frontier, Lucemon already absorb Digital World and Digital Moon, that why he's really strong and need Susanoomon to defeat him..
Bro Lucemon literally fight under Lilithmon and Xros Wars,meanwhile actually Lucemon is most superior between all 7 Demon Lord including Lilithmon..seem Xros has it own rules
@@sabarbudiman5595
So what the data was only needed to break the seal that trapped it in the dark zone.
Back before its first defeat did it take 10 super powerful Mega Digimon from which 8 died in the process to take it down and seal it.
@@ilhamardanta4737yeah. In Xros Wars, the Digimon lost their ability to evolve because the humans lost their drive to improve. Because of this, many Digimon are born with their current form, meaning that a Greymon was born as a Greymon and didn't evolve from an Agumon, meaning that is probable that is a Greymon weaker that a normal one because it is young.
The most similar thing to "evolution" is when a Digimon manage to obtain a new form though training and a lot of time. Meaning that it is more like maturing and growing than a straight evolution.
The Super Evolution Taiki and others use to make their Digimon stronger (For example, OmegaShoutmon and Arresterdramon) is actually a leap into their future, more mature forms.
THE MUSIC!!!! nough said
lucemon still don't die on that fight
60% talking about Lucemon (Frontier and Xros Wars)
30% Hating Xros Wars (?)
9% Idk
1% me ;-;
I love Watching people argument in the comments meanwhile there’s me who has only ever watched digimon fusion (it was my childhood and at the time I had no clue there were other digimon anime)
Whats the music in the background called
X4B The Guardian :)
Lucemon (xros wars) is weak because he no is the real demon lord
Weak like your command in English
It's demon lord vs demon lord with added parts
i dont know what lucemon is better. before, he got stronger thanks to digital world's digicode, but now he can shoot many dead or alive
Well I can't argue about the shakkoumon part
Agumon from Adventure VS Agumon from Savers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This series just doesn't make sense. Lucemon is the servant of Lilithmon the weakest demon lord, and Fanglongmon is Dorickmon's servant, and Leviamon is good...
+Ultraman Taro Alternate continuity and lore, my friend
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They are not the Demon Lords versions, my friend.
This Lucemon is weaker than the regular Lucemon, so is a servant of another demon lord to become stronger.
fanglongmon part is stupid, yes.
and Leviamon is not good, is a spirit, you summon him, and he attacks, that's it.
@@zeoxdragon Leviamon in cross wars is in a group of heros who fought Bagramon in past
Frontier Lucemon would like a word woth Xros wars Lucemon
They nerf him and didn't include his badass skill like on the frontier
I wouldn't say that, Shoutmon X4b had Beelzemon who is also a great demon lord, then again in this one Lilithmon was stronger than Lucemon chaos mode who is suppose to be the strongest demon lord digimon and i think lilithmon is suppose to be the weakest
Lilithmon it's literally an ophanimon, one of the holiest Digimon which ended up in the dark area resulting in it being turned into Lilithmon, may not be the strongest among the Demon Lords but it is certainly a force to be reckoned with
There can be multiple version of the same Digimon with fluctuate power, I don't see that much of an issues.
People just keep forgetting this exist.
@@MASTERSOT
Shakomon push back 2 Lucemon FM easily, while Shoutmon X4 have hard time with 1. He should just defeat Lucemon FM by himself.
i dont understand,digimon frontier took him out so badly but xros wars just took him out in 1 minute plus
Shoutmon, Agumons, Veemon, Guilmon, Agunimon! Digi Xros!
I believe the only type of digimon that could rival Susanoomon's power is Galantmon crimsin mode. That is because he has the power to fight and rival even what the four sovoreign fear.
There is many Digimon who could rival Susanoomon power, almost every top Royal Knights and some other Digimon
@@MASTERSOT I don't know much about Alphamon, but I don't think any of the Royal Knight can fight 1v1 against someone that one shot Lucemon with digital world worth of data inside them.
1:22... why did i heard crayon shin chan ..
X4b is more powerful than Susanoomon? :O
fun fact, The Tactimon sword (at least in Manga) was made from Susanoomon data
Not really. Consider the Frontier Universe a separate Universe than the Xross Wars one.
....until Digimon Hunters ruined it wheeze
Well there's too many megas introduced in Xros Wars, and fusion of digimon also produces mega-like digimon so everybody appears to be a little normal in the series, because most battles are basically megas vs megas
El día que shakkoumon se reindivico
Lucemon really should’ve Ora Ora suplexed Shoutmon instead of Frieza death ball.
Beezelbubxroswars is the strong prefallversion
Cual es el nombre de la canción?
Good point.
Aqui demuestran que un Digimon que solo es la fusión de 4 vencío a un Digimon que dependió de fusionar los 10 guerreros legendarios literalmente nos muestran que aquí todos están nerfeados y el sistema de digivolve no funciona por qué si hubiera sido el lucemon de frontier ni X7 superior mode hubiera servido ya que x7 contra susanoomon usando todo su poder si vimos que susanoomon tiene el poder para vence varios Royal Knights en modo X significa que este lucemon es un chiste si lo comparamos con el verdadero
Robot vs. Satan lol
shakkoumon repeliendo un ataque de lucemon fm? ._.
And I dunno about you, but I don't see Shoutmon X4B being on Susanomon's level, who in the manga has the power to delete and rewrite the Digital World, and is the fusion of all the Legendary Warriors. Maybe Adventure Omnimon level, but doubtfully Susanomon level.
Man yall can't just watch a cool fight without complaining about powerlevels or some toher crap
16 and u get lucemon DAMN
どうでもいいけど、絶対x4よりベルゼブモン単体の方が強いと思う
Xros Wars Lucemon was much weaker than Frontier Lucemon...
No one will acknowledge that the angel Digimon were right all along? That there’s a reason they had such an iron grip in such a sacred holy region? To prevent this very exact kind of collapse???? Lucemon used “peace and love” to manipulate the angels and had them vote against law and order. And y’all got what y’all deserved.
That wasn't even dead or alive
Cómo se llama la canción de fondo? (Muerte por decapitación al que diga Darude-Sandstorm, ese momo ya pasó de moda >:v)
BlackJoker se llama
He guardián th-cam.com/video/xpt3H2qiqqE/w-d-xo.html
The guardián *
No mames.... lucemon es mucho mas fuerte que eso -.-
Ese no es el original, además ten en cuenta que el lucemon de frontier había absorbido a 2 royal knights.
+anthony abisai alfonso prieto es un lucemon diferente al que se vio en frontier
No todos los lucemon son iguales, ambos son de universos distintos y ten encuenta que el lucemon de frontier absorbió la data del digimundo
Éste es uno débil. El de Frontier era el Demon Lord, por eso tan fuerte. Aunque de por sí, el Lucemon base rivaliza con digimon Perfeccionados y algunos Definitivos.
Obviamente ganan porque es una versión más débil del mismo, pero también tienen el poder de Beelzebumon, que sería una versión mejorada del original.
¿Como que no es el original? xD
Episode 16.
is it me or lucemon just got weaker by alot
the most powerful demon lord digimon lose shoutmon x4b what the fuck is this shit!!!?
You are talking about Frontier! Lucemon, Xros Wars! Lucemon is just a lowly spy of the Bagra Army.
@@johnhyland2683 for the longest time I didn't like the series because of their confusing use of megas
Alguien me puede explicar como un digixrox con un Demon lord nivel mega es más débil que uno con el avionsito pedorro de sparrowmon???
Solo con decir fusion con beelzemon nivel mega es suficiente?
x4b best
問題のシーン
this lucemon is weaker than frontier lucemon
:my brain processing 4b is stronger then susanomon 😕 😡 🤔
Man, this series just loved constantly disrespecting Digimon.
que merda estão acabando com Digimon assim como acabaram com Pokémon