Finally -- a pitcher who realizes that a changeup only works well when it contrasts another pitch --typically the fastball. If you throw nothing but changeups, it's not a changeup any more.
Tell that to Kahnle. I was complaining the whole playoffs like the whole point of a changeup is that it’s a change of speed. But if you throw it every pitch it’s not contrasting anything. It’s not a knuckleball dude! Dodgers weren’t fooled whatsoever.
the main reason as to luke weavers better fastball was the grip, he used to have a "stupid 4 seam grip" which was offset and not correctly so they made it correct lol
Me too. I see him as having great potential for our closer but feel as though yanks need 2 guys like this: super dominant short relief to cover the last 6 to 8 outs of game and keep yanks leads. If I want it dream - I go mason miller and weaver. Not sure who would be closer - probably miller though with weaver as the set up in the 8th or part way into 7th and miller coming in almost exclusively in the absolute start of the 9th.
@@elev911 I envy you/Mets for having Edwin Diaz! He is great! Yanks had ottivino who I thought never lived up to his own self-promoting comment and I noticed was not even used by the Mets in their playoff run. Guess that he again was only ‘meh’.
It did confuse me how Weaver went from 4-seam, cutter, changeup to a two pitch 4-seam, changeup combo. It came to bite him in the ALCS Game 3 where it was already his third appearance. While the cutter wasn't as swing and miss as his other two pitches, it was a great pitch against lefties and righties for inducing weak contact
He also walks with God. In my opinion relievers can develop in their 30’s and still be dominant and dangerous for the next couple years. Plenty of relievers have done it. He has faith and just switched over to being a reliever from a starter. He’s in a good spot whether he’s in his 30’s or 20’s. Thanks for commenting
This is why I always say, Why don't pitchers just throw high heaters and low change up and learn to locate them? This is more proof that eventually, every single pitchers will only need two pitches in the future of baseball. A high heater and a breaking ball low and location of those pitches.
It seems like your major reasons behind comparing Weaver and Jansen are that both were converted position players who seemingly came out of nowhere, but that's not really an apt comparison. Weaver didn't play short at any level above high school, whereas Jansen was converted from catcher to reliever in the minor leagues. It's not exactly uncommon that your best athlete in high school is either your pitcher or shortstop, so that's not really drawing the comparison you think you're making. If you're drawing the "converted childhood shortstop to reliever" comparison, Weaver has much more in common with a guy like Trevor Rosenthal than he does with Jansen. Additionally, the whole coming out of nowhere thing isn't really apt either. Jansen was developed as a reliever and worked his way up the depth chart. He was stuck behind guys like Jonathan Broxton, Javy Guerra, and Brandon League while he was working his way up the depth chart, but he still had almost 100 innings of very effective work coming out of the pen. It's not like he came out of nowhere, he had a couple years of being a very effective reliever before he took over the closers job. Meanwhile, Weaver was just objectively bad and rebuilt his career with the Yankees. Those two paths are so extremely different from each other it's just not a good argument.
He pitches with a fire you don't see much these days.. he also doesn't have the build of a lights out closer... he's a relatively skinny guy which is prob part of the overall deception. The movement on his fastball in the last ~5-6ft looks like it has afterburners that take a waist high strike that ends up right under the batters neckline
Thank you for this video. You earned a subscriber. I did discover Weaver during the playoffs. Although not mentioned in this video, I believe his faith in God helped him a lot also.
If they can locate it well, then you can really on only fastball and changeup, but even then a breaking ball can still benefit any player to have in their arsenal.
He’s not super young but he definitely proved himself as the Yankee’s closer once he got the ball in the postseason. He pitched every game except one in the division series and only gave up 3 earned runs the whole time. That’s not shown in the regular season statistics. Unfortunately yankees fans had to suffer through cardiac clay Holmes most of the regular season cause Aaron Boone refused to remove him from the role till October was already knocking. Luke Weaver is the Yankees closer for now, even if the comparisons to Jansen and others of his caliber are too soon imo. Still fun to watch and one of my favorite stories from this year.
I’m not saying you’re wrong but here’s what I think, Randy Johnson didn’t win his first Cy Young award until he was 32, he didn’t start being dominant until he was 29. Jose Bautista was one of the best late bloomers in baseball and it didn’t start until 28 and lasted 6 years. Or another big time closer was Joe Nathan, who didn’t even become a closer full time until he was 29 then was dominant for the next decade. 31 is a bit later yes, but R.A. Dickey wasn’t even a known name until he went to the Mets at 33 years old. A lot of people like to make assumptions and call people one hit wonders, or they developed too late, but you just never know. I’d love to hear your thoughts though.
Liked the video and everything, but then you said something that is absurd. That Jansen was the one who showed that a closer could dominate with one pitch... May I please introduce you to Mariano Rivera and his cutter?
You’re right, Rivera is the greatest closer of all time, not JUST when it comes to having one pitch. He was just as a whole the best. In my opinion at least.
Alright so don’t watch the vid this is what happened to Luke he threw 93 not 94 and came over as a starter. After people recovered he had no choice but to be slotted as a reliever. He learned gerrits fastball grip and he taught him how to make it few, “automatic” he then with this new grip gained 4mph and is now throwing 97. So why is 4mph so good and effective? It’s not unless ur luke weaver with fine control. It’s the ability to locate his heater. That’s it. Don’t make vids if random people know the ACTUAL facts.
But you obviously don't know what happened,because you're saying it was all because he added some velocity. That's just part of it. He also completely altered the movement he gets from his pitches. So that four seam fastball not only got faster, but it also gained a few inches of rise. Maybe, had you watched the video instead of just being an asshole in the comment section, you would have known it wasn't just about velocity.
kenly jansen is a world series champion. clay holmes is not. and will not be with the yankees. players arent clones of other players and comparing them is dumb as fuck. its a team sport. doesnt matter individually. not everyone is ohtani
As me and my dad watched the world series, my dad kept asking "isn't this pitcher like 12?"
He got the nickname of Baby Faced Killer for a reason.
My dad asked "have his balls even dropped yet?" several times
Yup those genetics u guys got are ugly so I feel that!!!
Lol. I wish I knew he had that name when he said that😂
He was unjustly banned from Little League
Finally -- a pitcher who realizes that a changeup only works well when it contrasts another pitch --typically the fastball. If you throw nothing but changeups, it's not a changeup any more.
Tell that to Kahnle. I was complaining the whole playoffs like the whole point of a changeup is that it’s a change of speed. But if you throw it every pitch it’s not contrasting anything. It’s not a knuckleball dude! Dodgers weren’t fooled whatsoever.
yea 64 changeups in a row was disgusting lol but the pitching coach and boone mustve thought it was cute
@@LildreProds81 the pitching coach who has less experience than me and Boone who is the worst manager off a bullpen ever
@@blacjackdaniels200 Dear god I'm sure the pitching coach is trying to be as humble as you too
@@asimm03790 He has no credentials..zero business being in that spot. What role does being humble play here?
Great video, keep posting!
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Weaver was nothing but electric this year, such a likable pitcher. So happy the yanks r staying with him can’t wait to see him next year
the main reason as to luke weavers better fastball was the grip, he used to have a "stupid 4 seam grip" which was offset and not correctly so they made it correct lol
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Me too. I see him as having great potential for our closer but feel as though yanks need 2 guys like this: super dominant short relief to cover the last 6 to 8 outs of game and keep yanks leads. If I want it dream - I go mason miller and weaver. Not sure who would be closer - probably miller though with weaver as the set up in the 8th or part way into 7th and miller coming in almost exclusively in the absolute start of the 9th.
@@etamommy yea I think he going to have a great career but as a Mets fan I hope he doesn’t dominate the Mets
@@elev911 I envy you/Mets for having Edwin Diaz! He is great! Yanks had ottivino who I thought never lived up to his own self-promoting comment and I noticed was not even used by the Mets in their playoff run. Guess that he again was only ‘meh’.
It did confuse me how Weaver went from 4-seam, cutter, changeup to a two pitch 4-seam, changeup combo. It came to bite him in the ALCS Game 3 where it was already his third appearance. While the cutter wasn't as swing and miss as his other two pitches, it was a great pitch against lefties and righties for inducing weak contact
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Luke Weaver that's my reliever!
Yup weaver one of my fav pitchers in the yankees bullpen.
I’m looking forward to seeing how he plays next season with it being his first full season as a reliever.
Good video. Love Weavedog. But it's "seam shifted wake" not weight
great video
Thanks man 💯
Weaver is 31 guys
He also walks with God. In my opinion relievers can develop in their 30’s and still be dominant and dangerous for the next couple years. Plenty of relievers have done it. He has faith and just switched over to being a reliever from a starter. He’s in a good spot whether he’s in his 30’s or 20’s. Thanks for commenting
This is why I always say, Why don't pitchers just throw high heaters and low change up and learn to locate them? This is more proof that eventually, every single pitchers will only need two pitches in the future of baseball. A high heater and a breaking ball low and location of those pitches.
It seems like your major reasons behind comparing Weaver and Jansen are that both were converted position players who seemingly came out of nowhere, but that's not really an apt comparison. Weaver didn't play short at any level above high school, whereas Jansen was converted from catcher to reliever in the minor leagues. It's not exactly uncommon that your best athlete in high school is either your pitcher or shortstop, so that's not really drawing the comparison you think you're making. If you're drawing the "converted childhood shortstop to reliever" comparison, Weaver has much more in common with a guy like Trevor Rosenthal than he does with Jansen. Additionally, the whole coming out of nowhere thing isn't really apt either. Jansen was developed as a reliever and worked his way up the depth chart. He was stuck behind guys like Jonathan Broxton, Javy Guerra, and Brandon League while he was working his way up the depth chart, but he still had almost 100 innings of very effective work coming out of the pen. It's not like he came out of nowhere, he had a couple years of being a very effective reliever before he took over the closers job. Meanwhile, Weaver was just objectively bad and rebuilt his career with the Yankees. Those two paths are so extremely different from each other it's just not a good argument.
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Nice Video
Great Jimmy Page reference
He pitches with a fire you don't see much these days.. he also doesn't have the build of a lights out closer... he's a relatively skinny guy which is prob part of the overall deception. The movement on his fastball in the last ~5-6ft looks like it has afterburners that take a waist high strike that ends up right under the batters neckline
Thank you for this video. You earned a subscriber.
I did discover Weaver during the playoffs. Although not mentioned in this video, I believe his faith in God helped him a lot also.
Agreed, makes me respect him more
Devin Williams is another guy who dominates with just a changeup and a fastball. It’s all you need really
It's all you need if both pitches are elite lol, most pitchers are not going to be able to rely on only a fastball and changeup
If they can locate it well, then you can really on only fastball and changeup, but even then a breaking ball can still benefit any player to have in their arsenal.
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But he was 1st round pick so there was always talent I believe he can still be like Michael King be starting pitcher
Best young closer?
He is 31.
4 saves in 84 innings? is he even a closer?
He’s not super young but he definitely proved himself as the Yankee’s closer once he got the ball in the postseason. He pitched every game except one in the division series and only gave up 3 earned runs the whole time. That’s not shown in the regular season statistics. Unfortunately yankees fans had to suffer through cardiac clay Holmes most of the regular season cause Aaron Boone refused to remove him from the role till October was already knocking. Luke Weaver is the Yankees closer for now, even if the comparisons to Jansen and others of his caliber are too soon imo. Still fun to watch and one of my favorite stories from this year.
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@@jibbymarketnot for the first bunch of the season he wasnt
I’m not saying you’re wrong but here’s what I think, Randy Johnson didn’t win his first Cy Young award until he was 32, he didn’t start being dominant until he was 29. Jose Bautista was one of the best late bloomers in baseball and it didn’t start until 28 and lasted 6 years. Or another big time closer was Joe Nathan, who didn’t even become a closer full time until he was 29 then was dominant for the next decade. 31 is a bit later yes, but R.A. Dickey wasn’t even a known name until he went to the Mets at 33 years old. A lot of people like to make assumptions and call people one hit wonders, or they developed too late, but you just never know. I’d love to hear your thoughts though.
how did weaver do against the dodgers?
U mean Mariano is the 👑 of one pitch closers! Let’s get it right!
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Liked the video and everything, but then you said something that is absurd. That Jansen was the one who showed that a closer could dominate with one pitch... May I please introduce you to Mariano Rivera and his cutter?
You’re right, Rivera is the greatest closer of all time, not JUST when it comes to having one pitch. He was just as a whole the best. In my opinion at least.
The biggest blemish was Father Christmas
TLDW, what is the scary watch?
Two pitch pitchers get clobbered
Too bad he's starting a little late he could've hit a lot of milestones if he changed his style earlier
Agreed, but based on what he was able to do in the postseason he’ll still put up numbers if he’s consistent enough and stays healthy.
Yamamato wanna be ! I pretty sure he studied yamamoto, he's not kicking anymore! He can paint the strike zone like da Vinci now
Got that Gerritt Cole good good sticky goop
He uses Gerritt’s Creamy Goo for a better grip. He drinks it too.
Tinfoil hat energy
Well, it’s not a secret anymore big mouth..😂🤣😂
Alright so don’t watch the vid this is what happened to Luke he threw 93 not 94 and came over as a starter. After people recovered he had no choice but to be slotted as a reliever. He learned gerrits fastball grip and he taught him how to make it few, “automatic” he then with this new grip gained 4mph and is now throwing 97. So why is 4mph so good and effective? It’s not unless ur luke weaver with fine control. It’s the ability to locate his heater. That’s it. Don’t make vids if random people know the ACTUAL facts.
Thanks saved me 9 mins
But you obviously don't know what happened,because you're saying it was all because he added some velocity. That's just part of it. He also completely altered the movement he gets from his pitches. So that four seam fastball not only got faster, but it also gained a few inches of rise.
Maybe, had you watched the video instead of just being an asshole in the comment section, you would have known it wasn't just about velocity.
kenly jansen is a world series champion. clay holmes is not. and will not be with the yankees. players arent clones of other players and comparing them is dumb as fuck. its a team sport. doesnt matter individually. not everyone is ohtani
Both have blown a ton of saves
Your opinion is valid, but this video is about Luke Weaver… not Clay Holmes.
i doubt he keeps it up next year, hes a 1 hit wonder mark this and come back to me next year
Reply to this comment when it happens. I think he’ll continue to produce as a reliever… that’s just me though