Cathy, I really appreciate you writing with the same ink in different nib sizes. By doing so, you provide viewers who use fountain pens with practical, useful information, rather than reviewers who use a paint brushes. Everything about your videos: informative, lovely camera work, clear sound quality and your soothing voice, make your videos very relaxing to watch. Thank you for your hard work and aesthetic eye.
So Aurora Black has been my go-to black for years. Then, I received a bottle of Take Sumi and the properties of the TS blew me away. Thanks for your thorough assessment of a fabulous ink.
Cathy, your comparison was thorough. I particularly appreciate comments re writing exper. After sampling other blacks from sample bottles and buying Noodler's black, I gave them away and bought take-sumi. Your description fits my experience. However, I didn't know it wouldn't wash away completely. I have another black which gives a velvety feel and is very permanent, Platinum's Carbon Black. It's pigmented. I've only used it in Preppy's where it is very wet and black and doesn't dry up on the pen due to cap and seal. I'll try it with a metro and see how it works.
Thank you, Lily. I enjoy writing with a Preppy because the black ink in the cartridges is so nice. Do you know if that ink is Carbon Black? It is so nice and well behaved. 😀
The ink which comes with the preppy isn't Carbon Black, but you can buy Carbon Black cartridges. I eyedroppered (?) two of my preppies with pigmented inks (CB and Seiboku). I haven’t had good luck with refilled cartridges in Preppies. It’s hard for me to get good fill and flow due to the built in collector. But one needs to be careful and know which preppy has a barrel full of ink as unscrewing an eyedropped pen with permanent ink … I do want to try using pigmented inks in more durable pens.
Cathy, you are very fortunate, Sailor only sells a standard Black ink in a rectangular bottle, and phased out Jentle Black in its unique bottle. Thanks for informing me about PI Take-sumi. My favorite is Noodler's Raven black, a Canadian exclusive, eternal, and in-between Big Black Moccasin (darkest,) and Dark Matter (shade lighter.) Sad to say, it is discontinued indefinitely as Wonder Pens have dropped Noodler's after the controversy in the FP world.
I wonder if Raven Black is similar to one of the multitude of other black inks from Noodler's. I really liked X-Feather, but just for fine nibs because it's a little watery. I like Noodler's Heart of Darkness in a wider variety of nibs. If I ever finish my bottle of Jentle Black, I'll probably go with Heart of Darkness.
Aurora Black has always been my favorite, and I see the same sheen on paper as you saw with the Take Sumi. I especially love Aurora Black in my Pilot fine nibs.
Another great look at ink performance. You do such a thorough job. The only black ink i think does a better job is Platinum Carbon Black. I even love the bit of shine on the ink after it dries.
My favourite black ink on Tomoe River and broad nib (Diplomat Aero). Not as dark as J. Herbin Perle Noire but from a normal reading distance the two are very similar. The Take-sumi however produces much cleaner lines. The Perle Noire is more sensitive to oils and needs paper that is pristine. That's probably why it doesn't look as crisp. The Take-sumi though is probably the worst performing black ink I have with regular paper.
Hi Cathy. Thank you for this ink review! How do you like your Sailor Pro Gear Slim? I have a black regular size Sailor Pro Gear. I just bought it. I've never owned a Sailor. It has that famous feedback. I'm not accustomed to it yet. Ive only owned Pilots. Pilot VP has a glassy feel!
Hi R! I like my Pro Gear Slim, but I only use Sailor fine nibs with dark, saturated inks like these black inks and Diamine Oxford Blue, so it doesn't get a whole lot of use. I prefer my Pro Gear Slim Mini that has a medium fine nib and my 1911 that has a medium nib. What size nib did you get?
hi, lovely video! I recently purchased Take Sumi ink and put it in my Lamy Safari F nib pen, it has started to skip a bit, earlier I was using Waterman black ink and there was no issue whatsoever. Is it because Take Sumi is a thicker ink? If you could provide any tips to solve the issue would be helpful. I also have a Pilot Metropolitan F pen, should I try this ink in that pen and not in Lamy?
Thank you! In my experience, most Iroshizuku inks perform extremely well, but when they don't it's usually because the pen is too dry. If the only other ink you've used in your Lamy is the Waterman ink, maybe it has a dry writing nib. Waterman inks are some of the best performing inks in pens that have limited ink flow or that tend to dry out.
If I had to pick a favorite it would be Noodler's Heart of Darkness, but I already have a bottle of Sailor Jentle Black. It's not as water resistant as Heart of Darkness, but just as enjoyable to write with. 😀
Thanks Cathy, I was looking for a nice gusher of a black ink. I have samples of Diamine Onyx Black/Noodlers Brevity black /Noodlers black Moccasin/Noodlers Borealis black. I have not yet tried them.@@gadgetstop321
I haven't tried any of the document inks, but even the regular DeAtramentis inks that I've tried have a water resistant component that is very legible, even after being submerged in water. 😀
I find some of Pilot’s iroshizuku inks write a bit too wet for my taste so have not tried take sumi yet but do have Aurora black, Pelikan 4001 black, Sailor jentle black and Platinum carbon black all of which write well(the carbon black puts down a slightly broader line than the others); so glad you’re liking your Platinum 3776 F with this ink best - most reviewers seem to prefer Pilot and Sailor whereas my favourite writer has been my lovely Platinum 3776 EF in Chartres blue w rhodium trim which I’ve had inked up w J Herbin éclat de saphir for so long I’m nearly finished the whole bottle of ink!(like my Sailor pro gear EF w GvFC cobalt blue and my Pilot ch 912 EF w Montblanc ultramarine too, but it’s always my 3776 that I reach for first - it makes me feel so much better that you like it too!(maybe it’s just a maths teacher thing!:)
I've always used black inks in my Pro Gear Slim with a fine nib, mostly because I don't like a bold line when writing with a black ink. And, the fine nib on my Pro Gear Slim is kind of dry, so a nice saturated ink with good lubrication is necessary to have a pleasant writing experience. However, the Platinum fine nib is a joy to write with. I've never tried a Platinum 14k EF...maybe I should. 😀
@@gadgetstop321 would definitely encourage you to get a Platinum 3776 EF: mine writes beautifully and it’s always been a favourite for journaling; Platinum’s finest nib is their UEF which puts down a line of similar width to Sailor and Pilot’s EF, Platinum’s EF is marginally broader:)
Cathy, I really appreciate you writing with the same ink in different nib sizes. By doing so, you provide viewers who use fountain pens with practical, useful information, rather than reviewers who use a paint brushes. Everything about your videos: informative, lovely camera work, clear sound quality and your soothing voice, make your videos very relaxing to watch. Thank you for your hard work and aesthetic eye.
Thank you, Icecream! I enjoy making these videos. 😀
Take Sumi is a favorite of mine. It’s always very reliable for me in my pens and I like the slightly lighter shade of black/charcoal that it is.
Great comparison vid. Thankyou
You're welcome! 😀
So Aurora Black has been my go-to black for years. Then, I received a bottle of Take Sumi and the properties of the TS blew me away. Thanks for your thorough assessment of a fabulous ink.
You're welcome! 😀
what a fun pen collection, thanks for sharing
You're welcome! 😀
Cathy, your comparison was thorough. I particularly appreciate comments re writing exper. After sampling other blacks from sample bottles and buying Noodler's black, I gave them away and bought take-sumi. Your description fits my experience. However, I didn't know it wouldn't wash away completely. I have another black which gives a velvety feel and is very permanent, Platinum's Carbon Black. It's pigmented. I've only used it in Preppy's where it is very wet and black and doesn't dry up on the pen due to cap and seal. I'll try it with a metro and see how it works.
Thank you, Lily. I enjoy writing with a Preppy because the black ink in the cartridges is so nice. Do you know if that ink is Carbon Black? It is so nice and well behaved. 😀
The ink which comes with the preppy isn't Carbon Black, but you can buy Carbon Black cartridges. I eyedroppered (?) two of my preppies with pigmented inks (CB and Seiboku). I haven’t had good luck with refilled cartridges in Preppies. It’s hard for me to get good fill and flow due to the built in collector. But one needs to be careful and know which preppy has a barrel full of ink as unscrewing an eyedropped pen with permanent ink …
I do want to try using pigmented inks in more durable pens.
@@lilyplants6266 I have an irrational fear of eyedropping pens. 😂
Cathy, you are very fortunate, Sailor only sells a standard Black ink in a rectangular bottle, and phased out Jentle Black in its unique bottle. Thanks for informing me about PI Take-sumi. My favorite is Noodler's Raven black, a Canadian exclusive, eternal, and in-between Big Black Moccasin (darkest,) and Dark Matter (shade lighter.) Sad to say, it is discontinued indefinitely as Wonder Pens have dropped Noodler's after the controversy in the FP world.
I wonder if Raven Black is similar to one of the multitude of other black inks from Noodler's. I really liked X-Feather, but just for fine nibs because it's a little watery. I like Noodler's Heart of Darkness in a wider variety of nibs. If I ever finish my bottle of Jentle Black, I'll probably go with Heart of Darkness.
Aurora Black has always been my favorite, and I see the same sheen on paper as you saw with the Take Sumi. I especially love Aurora Black in my Pilot fine nibs.
You just can't go wrong with a dark saturated ink in a Pilot fine nib. I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas, Susan!
подробное и полезное видео!
Thank you! 😀
Another great look at ink performance. You do such a thorough job. The only black ink i think does a better job is Platinum Carbon Black. I even love the bit of shine on the ink after it dries.
Thank you! I've never tried Carbon black, unless it's the ink that's in platinum ink cartridges.
My favourite black ink on Tomoe River and broad nib (Diplomat Aero). Not as dark as J. Herbin Perle Noire but from a normal reading distance the two are very similar. The Take-sumi however produces much cleaner lines. The Perle Noire is more sensitive to oils and needs paper that is pristine. That's probably why it doesn't look as crisp.
The Take-sumi though is probably the worst performing black ink I have with regular paper.
Hi Cathy. Thank you for this ink review! How do you like your Sailor Pro Gear Slim? I have a black regular size Sailor Pro Gear. I just bought it. I've never owned a Sailor. It has that famous feedback. I'm not accustomed to it yet. Ive only owned Pilots. Pilot VP has a glassy feel!
Hi R! I like my Pro Gear Slim, but I only use Sailor fine nibs with dark, saturated inks like these black inks and Diamine Oxford Blue, so it doesn't get a whole lot of use. I prefer my Pro Gear Slim Mini that has a medium fine nib and my 1911 that has a medium nib. What size nib did you get?
@@gadgetstop321Medium!
hi, lovely video! I recently purchased Take Sumi ink and put it in my Lamy Safari F nib pen, it has started to skip a bit, earlier I was using Waterman black ink and there was no issue whatsoever. Is it because Take Sumi is a thicker ink? If you could provide any tips to solve the issue would be helpful. I also have a Pilot Metropolitan F pen, should I try this ink in that pen and not in Lamy?
Thank you! In my experience, most Iroshizuku inks perform extremely well, but when they don't it's usually because the pen is too dry. If the only other ink you've used in your Lamy is the Waterman ink, maybe it has a dry writing nib. Waterman inks are some of the best performing inks in pens that have limited ink flow or that tend to dry out.
Hi cathy, could you compare the nibs between the 3776 fine and the sailor 14k fine?
Looking in specific about how their feedback differs
Here's a link to the video I made a few years ago comparing those:
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What is your favorite black color and brand?
If I had to pick a favorite it would be Noodler's Heart of Darkness, but I already have a bottle of Sailor Jentle Black. It's not as water resistant as Heart of Darkness, but just as enjoyable to write with. 😀
Thanks Cathy, I was looking for a nice gusher of a black ink. I have samples of Diamine Onyx Black/Noodlers Brevity black /Noodlers black Moccasin/Noodlers Borealis black. I have not yet tried them.@@gadgetstop321
Thank! Have you tried de atramentis doc black?
I haven't tried any of the document inks, but even the regular DeAtramentis inks that I've tried have a water resistant component that is very legible, even after being submerged in water. 😀
I find some of Pilot’s iroshizuku inks write a bit too wet for my taste so have not tried take sumi yet but do have Aurora black, Pelikan 4001 black, Sailor jentle black and Platinum carbon black all of which write well(the carbon black puts down a slightly broader line than the others); so glad you’re liking your Platinum 3776 F with this ink best - most reviewers seem to prefer Pilot and Sailor whereas my favourite writer has been my lovely Platinum 3776 EF in Chartres blue w rhodium trim which I’ve had inked up w J Herbin éclat de saphir for so long I’m nearly finished the whole bottle of ink!(like my Sailor pro gear EF w GvFC cobalt blue and my Pilot ch 912 EF w Montblanc ultramarine too, but it’s always my 3776 that I reach for first - it makes me feel so much better that you like it too!(maybe it’s just a maths teacher thing!:)
I've always used black inks in my Pro Gear Slim with a fine nib, mostly because I don't like a bold line when writing with a black ink. And, the fine nib on my Pro Gear Slim is kind of dry, so a nice saturated ink with good lubrication is necessary to have a pleasant writing experience. However, the Platinum fine nib is a joy to write with. I've never tried a Platinum 14k EF...maybe I should. 😀
@@gadgetstop321 would definitely encourage you to get a Platinum 3776 EF: mine writes beautifully and it’s always been a favourite for journaling; Platinum’s finest nib is their UEF which puts down a line of similar width to Sailor and Pilot’s EF, Platinum’s EF is marginally broader:)