I just wonder, how many poor parents have to deal with kids who are attempting to become streamers and spend hours a day just screaming constantly. You'd sooner get them a drumkit
my friend’s little brother is like this!!! he was always one of those kids who liked to scream at people while playing online games. now he’s graduated high school and is trying to turn his pastime of yelling at video games into a career as a twitch streamer. it’s not going very well, he has like 10 subscribers on twitch and he’s been streaming for like 2 years. he spends several hours a day just screeching and making noise, im sure the neighbors love it!!! at least he has a day job though lmao
@@stinky59 i have a friend and his little brother is in the exact same situation. Trying to become a streamer, has a day job, playing minecraft or some shit.
@@Goozero1 The comment is saying that the only time he's making those kinds of sounds now is when he's enjoying going for a swim or some other activity paid for by the tons of money he made.
You know what I love most about this Kira Production? This guy was probably close to resurfacing, because a whole generation had passed, most people wouldn't have known whotf he was unless they were OG stream watchers. This vid just sent him back to the void for another 10yrs 👌🏻💕🤣🤣🤣 Thank you Kira, another top quality KiraTV production 👏🏻🥰
Because as lame as it is, it was funny back then. Why do you think people still emulate the "loud = funny" thing? Its because it worked. I enjoyed it. Then I grew up.
@@SokomPwnage exactly… I enjoyed it back then, but the creators who’ve also grown up and out of the “loud=funny” phase are the ones I still watch, JSE for example.
I’ve learned over my nearly 4 decades on this planet that for people like that, the money is never enough. The fact that he’s forced into obscurity will eat away at him for the rest of his life and he’ll never be satisfied. He wants the attention and he wants the high of making that fast cash. If he hasn’t blown all his money chasing that feeling, then at least he’ll be miserable knowing he’s a has-been.
I genuinely thought this guy had committed self-die a long time ago. I mean, i guess he committed career self-die, but i genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he does eventually because he CRAVES the spotlight and the attention. Nobody who puts on that kind of "persona" is content being a nobody. Look at that bald monkey looking guy who also streamed league of legends and was known for being the most toxic guy ever... that was his WHOLE persona (idk if he still streams but i never watched him to begin with). But he was exactly the same shtick as phantmlord... raging crying screaming being toxic as fuck and doing anything he could to be as awful as possible on stream... He got banned like 10 times but Riot still let him come back every time and twitch also because they care about money more than sending a message, then they wonder why their platform is full of screaming toxic asshole douchebags, or scantily clad whorish thots showing their tits or pussy "accidentally" on stream.
@@TriWaZe I havent heard anything from him since this lawsuit win. And nothing of the massive fees that were likely involved in a lawsuit that took 3 years how is it a victory? if you claim for 100M i thought that is factored into costs? theres a chance hes in a lot of trouble.
@@Seph0rz I heard he only won like 20k so most likely he may have won the case but still got financially screwed. Which I really hope is the case cause f this guy and anyone that supports em
I followed his snapchat at the time and vividly remember him filming at a big pool party throwing thousands of dollars in the pool and mocking those he stole from
I always feel like an alien when I visit twitch because the only thing people want to see are extroverted, loud, high energy people who scream and have mental breakdowns. Thats literally what makes people famous, these traits. I dont know why that attracts so many people. And its not just young people either.
"Loud content" can be funny sometimes, especially when you're actively engaging with the stream, but the majority of people (me included) keep the streams minimized/on the second monitor while doing something else. And I don't have to tell you how annoying they can be while you're trying to do something else, even if you love the streamer in question.
Rightt? I had streamed Goose Goose Duck for about a year on Twitch and only shied near 200 followers by the end of it. I don't understand the attraction to obnoxious streamers XD
There's plenty of streamers that aren't just all hyper and screaming, but that's just the popular content for teens and zoomers who make up the vast majority of viewers. And this applies not only to twitch, but TH-cam and other social media as well. It's just that those platforms are much better at serving you exactly what you want rather than just what's popular.
Nah, I disagree on half of that while at the same time I see and agree with half of it because I an alien to an extent and do not feel extroverted by anybody besides making my own choices to lurk into oblivion... Also what's wrong with it being young people??? Do yo wish it had all ages or just like old people more??? Or maybe is it a milf to dilf thing???
Notice, if you will, how everything they do in the game is what "we" should do or how it will affect "our" game. Builds a one-sided relationship with their viewers.
Yep, he’s got enough money and enough youth to do whatever he wants next as long as he stays away from social media (which shouldn’t be hard for a man with his means).
He lost his career but he'll be fine since he has millions upon millions to live comfortable. Everything he scammed out of those who liked him, he kept. Nothing I am just tired of all these scammers keeping their ill gotten money.
@@MagnetDzn It's upfront known that the casinos have odds in their favour. That's not kept a secret. While this guy didn't reveal that vital piece of info.
It's genuinely incredible that there are so many people in prison and this creep isn't one of them. Steal from a corner store and you go to jail. Steal millions of dollars via illegal RIGGED gambling and the worst that happens is your twitch account gets terminated. This society too corrupt to survive much longer.
Is this meant to be a success story? Cause he got away with it. All of it. Who cares if his reputation is beyond repair when he never has to work another day in his life and can do whatever he wants? At the end of the day he's not going to walk into a store and be recognized as "phantomlord" and told to leave.
He had lavish habits and lifestyle, I doubt his wealth would last for the rest of his life. I believe the idea behind the lawsuit was to secure more money and be comfortable.
yeah, there are a lot of streamers/ content creators who fade into obscurity without making that kind of money. all in all its really just a retirement. you cant do that kind of job forever anyway.
I'd like to throw out a little, inconsequential side story that happened about 10 years ago where Phantom was the catalyst. Phantom on one of his League streams, which I enjoyed watching back in the day, said he was looking for more people to volunteer (they were upfront that it was unpaid) with a Minecraft side project that was currently in the works. It was going to be a server for his fans/subscribers to explore, and you could find things like League codes for skins or whatever within notes in hidden chests. The team needed more builders, and I submitted essentially a Minecraft resume (I annoy my friends with this story every time I can). I got in and started volunteering under one of the more senior people. This map was HUGE. There were whole statues of League characters, secret areas everywhere, places from other games - you name it. My grand additions were a massive cathedral and the start of a "1 to 1" copy of the Water Temple from Ocarina of Time. Also, a particularly sinister one-way trap where skeleton heads would mock you (via the wooden signs) for falling in, and you had to suffocate yourself via a trapped chest + piston to get out. That was vetoed lol. I wasn't present, but when Phantom saw my dark cathedral in the swamp area when he came to check on progress, he loved it - at least that's what the others told me. It was a nice feeling. He even gave us some cash for our work. Nothing earth-shattering I think (I turned it down before they even told me an amount), but it was still a lovely gesture. But what I mostly remember was the community of builders. Great, level-headed people who just built things and kept the project going. Phantom, as far as I knew, left creative control almost entirely to us. it was pretty fun hanging out with the rest of the team in Skype, using WorldEdit to make gargantuan things. Unfortunately, the project sputtered and died out as I think Phantom's focus went elsewhere. Someone kept a copy of the map before the server shut down. I only remember one name from the team after this decade of time - iW00T. I hope you figured out how to script a copy of the player character to attack in that one Water Temple room. It's probably trivial to do nowadays, but it felt like you were really pushing the scripting boundaries then - at least to ignorant me. To the rest of the team - I hope you're all doing well.
@@AndreiGalan97bruh if you don't read the comment why even take the time to write out that you didn't read it. Sounds more like a waste of time in the end than reading the comment.
On one hand, definitely stupid. On the other hand, he probably has to never work a day in his life anymore. Not a bad deal for him personally I would say.
I appreciate these documentaries you make much more than a lot of others one would find on this site about the careers of online personas. I think a large part of that has to do with the fact that in your documentaries, these people have actually done things that deserve scorn, whereas I feel like many others seem to insult people for a change in priorities. Anyways, keep up the great work, I hope TH-cam's monetization team has been treating you more kindly.
I don't really agree with that. It depends on how that money comes. if you're a regular joe and you come into money, then I can see your statement as mostly true. However, If you are a streamer and over a period of 10 years let's say, then you are gradually changing who you are over that time just to get more and more money. Especially if you're young, I think they are literally being changed into something else. Once I get rich, I'll come back and let you know how it went.
A bit of a hyperbolic analogy here, but a serious ethical/philosophical point to explore: A man acquires a gun, and one day, in the heat of the moment, uses that gun to shoot someone in the head. He expresses remorse for his actions, stating that he never wanted to kill anyone, never meant for any of this to happen - that he's not that kind of guy, and he doesn't know how he got to that place. Would that man have been 'the kind of man that shoots someone in the head' if he had never acquired the gun? Would he have legitimately 'not been that guy', or, in fact, would he have been exactly that guy, only without the means to actually do it at that time? We know that there are plenty of things in a person that are latent. Addiction, for example - it is often said that an alcoholic is never not an alcoholic, even when they're sober. You're never *not* the kind of person you are, even when you lack the means to do the things that would imply. Most of us would prefer, I think, to believe, that we have an accurate self-image, that we understand the kind of person we are and what we would be inclined to do. Perhaps he really believed that, prior to the events of the scams, he was not the kind of person who would scam people; self-image is not something easy to change, and the brain is resistant to changing its own perspective on its own identity, especially when the newly implied identity is negative. "I am not a scammer, this isn't who I am" the brain thinks, and it will look for any possible excuse, no matter how implausible, to deny accepting that either they have changed, to avoid having to face the possibility that they'd been wrong about themselves for so long, or possibly even willfully deceiving themselves about such things. The brain will blame anything, and anyone else, and can become adamant, angry, and unpredictable when cornered. We'll probably never know for sure if they money changed him, or if it was a situation of a man suddenly gaining the ability to do something that, consciously or not, he already had the inclination to do. Perhaps, like many things, it is a little bit of both - a vulnerability of mind and character, worsened by opportunity and circumstance. None of this is to excuse the behaviour at all, and nor would I excuse it. But it is a strange feeling to wonder what kind of things might be lurking in our own minds to come forward under the wrong sort of opportunity, and how we might better prepare ourselves to be aware of, and handle such things.
@@tux_duhI'm sure he must be crying over it while swimming in his money vault like Scrooge. Let's face it, the guy won. He clearly has no conscience so he's not bothered by any of this. He's just enjoying his wealth now.
I remember seeing this guy's name around a lot back when I was playing league. I didn't watch streams back then and preferred to watch edited videos and such, but he was a name that was mentioned a lot by other creators. It's definitely a ride learning who that actually was beyond just a name.
How the hell did he hit that high a pitch in his voice on the regular without destroying his vocal cords? My throat hurts after just watching a short clip
Every time you played a clip of this guy, I had to turn down the volume by half and resist shutting off the video completely. How people can choose to watch streamers like this, especially on a regular basis, has to be a mental affliction.
9 out of 10 people you do essays on I’ve never heard of. I’m glad of that but happy to watch your essays like it’s a car crash. Greed always undoes these people.
In the UK when you make a lawsuit you are paying 5% of what you are hoping to claim thats just a court fee. There is a chance the guy has been royally messed up by the fees.
LMAO PhantomLord??? NO WAY!!! I thought this guy would stay humble. Used to love his LoL streams. I remember when he went to the Korea servers and would play AP Yi.
The worst part about the unregulated gambling stuff Valve created isn't that people lost money when gambling, it's that so many kids were set on a path to a life of gambling.
when he not being a league player it is the end of him. The stream become bored when he start CS:GO , not even playing the games, just gambling was the one of his stream viewer back in the days. His community totally destoryed from his hand.
I mean that all depends man if you find it funny or not unless it's actually hilarious and they're just literally breaking their stuff then that's a different issue. I mean I scream at games too sometimes.
PhantomLord was such a vibe back in the day, specially the Mexican PhantomLord that shit was FIRE, it's just so sad looking at this documentaries seeing people you followed for years just being a mere memory now.
Damn seeing all that CS footage makes me miss those days so much. Played since beta 0.6 but stopped after I had kids about 8 years ago. I can't tell you the intense nostalgia I got seeing that gameplay. awesome vid btw lol
Makes a shit-ton of money playing a video game he likes...and isn't happy enough with it. Sometimes wanting more more more is someone's real downfall, clearly.
Its somewhat fascinating how different people are when liking something, I cannot fathom anybody spending 30 seconds on a stream with a guy screaming outta his lungs and destroying my hearing in the process, but I'm sure I like many things others find boring LOOL
lol He ruined his life by stealing a bunch of money, getting away with it, and retiring to quiet luxury and never having to work again. Man, a real cautionary tale there.
He used to be a pro gamer and his passion was video games so that real type of fame he found was completely destroyed for him. I honestly think the video overestimates how much money he made in comparison to how he spends or how good he was.... i dont seem to recall him going big after the initial twich run he was just sort of there in the very early league days and suddenly he left CLG stopped streaming league and dissapeared onto CSGO. He was good at league in D1 but for only a small time i before the the higher tier ranked system and introduction of master/grandmaster after he could barely play in low gold. On stream he became an alcoholic got into various toxic relationships and was involved in multiple lawsuits. This guy probably had a multitude of problems that you and i are both happier without.
I don't know how people can watch someone who randomly screams & shreiks so loudly. Although i also don't understand the attraction of watching a stranger playing games online.
Excellent video. I love your content. It's not hyped, or dramatized unnecessarily. Well researched, and to the fact. I enjoy all the themes and topics you are doing, whether it's internet/gaming history, or political/global scandals that gets screwed by the algorithm. I can imagine some topics or themes can be challenging, especially when it's contra the narratives major countries are trying to do. You're doing great.
I don't think he destroyed his life, he pretty much got off scot-free. His rep is destroyed but only his online rep, he could pretty much build a new business under a new pseudonym with the amount of money he got.
I used to be a big fan. I watched his videos all the time. I guess the times were different at that time and kids really enjoyed such content. Now that I look at it, it’s absolutely unbearable lmao
Hello KiraTV, would you by any chance be willing to talk about MapleStory again? Recently a class was announced that it will be removed, and it's sent a good chunk of the playerbase in an uproar for multiple reasons, including how it sets a bad precedent for other class removals and Nexon's lack of communication on the matter.
This is crazy how I just avoid those scam people, that some people are following but I just feel that they are not a good person, something is not right about them and I just don't watch them, and later I see videos like that about them making some bad stuff.
really boggles my mind that this guys entire lifes work boils down to screaming at video games, opening csgo cases and scamming kids. truly a role model
It boggles my mind that actual legal action wasn't taken against him considering what he did was highly illegal and he made off with millions of dollars of people's money by rigging his own gambling website. He should have lost all of his money and also had a long prison sentence.
It was a technicality that let him get away with it. Because the wagers were made exclusively with in-game items that had no value or utility outside of the CSGO community there was technically no money involved in the transactions and gambling regulations were not worded in a way that accounted for people playing games of chance with them. The fact that the items would then be sold for real money outside of the gambling site created just enough of a distance between the games of chance and the profits from the scam that the regulators couldn't come after him. It's like how in Japan you'll often see pachinko places across the street from pawn shops: the players use the balls they win on the games to exchange for prizes of no real monetary value and then cross the road and get the money from the guy across the road who buys them for way more than they're worth before handing them back to the guys at the pachinko business. The website he ran took no money: it was selling the items after the fact that made it profitable. This meant that they could rig the whole thing without having any monetary transactions on their books (besides their operational costs) and therefore there wasn't any way to prosecute him for taking people's cash because nobody actually spent money to participate and the sales were made on a market place that wasn't under his control, rendering those transactions no more illegal than anything else being sold between CSGO players on the other platform. I believe that the issue was twofold: the laws regulating gambling made exceptions for things like trading cards, which would be the closest existing comparison to the type of goods being wagered, and the gaming industry was already taking advantage of players in similar ways through similar games of random chance within their online games and lobbied heavily to retain the ability to exploit their audience through gambling mechanics designed to induce compulsive spending. I believe that the regulations were subsequently tightened up in some parts of Europe to outlaw these systems and treat them as a form of gambling, however the best that regulation of online gambling can achieve is preventing people without a VPN from accessing them within their borders. On the internet there's nothing to stop someone registering a business like this in a country without regulations and blocking off incoming traffic from places where it is illegal (all the while knowing that people in those countries are participating too, except three VPN makes it appear that their IP addresses are from countries where it's not illegal.)
I've met with him in Berlin 2013, before all these shit show. He was a genuine guy. Dorky, average gamer . Who actually loves his job. Sadly money got better of him... I wish he would suffer the consequences of promoting his own gambling site and influencing thousands
not gonna lie.. ''throwing away'' his entire life (his internet persona?) for enough money to live like a king the rest of his life.. I don't think he lost anything at all...He won...
@@guardiansoulblade2673 especially if he’s the narcissistic type, being a “has-been” will drive him crazy over time, and I’d bet he’s chasing the feeling of the game,ing, the cash grabs, and the thrill of seeing all his numbers go up.
feels really bad being a long time fan of his during the time this all went down... id stopped watching cuz i was a league fan at the time and didnt care for skin cases or gambling. but then found out what he did over there and i remember all the good times watching him and its all sour now. its both sad and pathetic.
I remember watching him as a child in 2012 - 2014 before he went to shit together with league of legends itself. His taste of music introduced me to the metal genre which I love to this day and to one of my first and favorite metal bands "KoRn" when I once heard one of their songs on PhantomL0rd's stream which the title of is "Blame". After hearing that song I just fell in love with the sound and was desperate to find out the title which was not so easy back then for me since I barely knew english at all. After finally figuring out the title and listening to it in a good quality I begun to progressively listen to more and more metal songs and eventually before I've even noticed I was hooked on metal for life and I still am just as strong even 10 years later. The video from that stream is even still on TH-cam I believe. The video was titled "steak lord" or something in which he was playing aram and trying to order a steak online for himself while listening to the song in question. At least for that bit I'll always be grateful to him. Too bad he had to end up being such a sad person and ruin his career but oh well at least I've gained something positive from watching him back then together with good, lasting memories.
Same Same... He was the best once. KoRn, Bodom, In Flames, Soilwork, Trivium, Disturbed, BFMV, We Came As Romans, Breaking Benjamin, Threat Signal, Sybreed, Scar Symmetry, Kamelot, Dreamshade, Disarmonia Mundi, Pillar, TrustCompany, Metallica, etc etc... Just to Name a few :D Man so many Bands I know and Love cause of him. I'll treasure these my whole life. Sad he threw It all away, im sure He still would be a cool Streamer if He just kept playing other Games.
I was part of his following 10 years ago. And it was crazy shit. But one thing remained in my mind ever since Richard Lewis (at the time one of the biggest voices in e-sports, today someone that most of the industry doesn't want and that blocks you on twitter just because even if you don't interact with him) did that "investigation" and it was everyone was blaming PL and also TH-camrs like TMartin, which is totally understandable, but I always thought the same thing: How is it that Valve just escaped this unscathed. It will always be mind boggling to me that no one ever even mentioned Valve as the first culprit of this whole mess, creating a system where this could happen. Funnily enough, years and years later people and sometimes in EU legislation coming out against "Lootboxes", and yet CSGO and Valve, still no mention. According to Valve, if I recall correctly, they stated that skins "did not change in any shape, way or form the gameplay, and also they were just virtual items, thus not holding ANY REAL MONETARY VALUE". In addition, they stated that it was supposed to be "something for people to play like they were part of a black market of weapons" making a reference to the Steam market. I couldn't believe it, since to open a box, you needed 2.49 dollars per key of real money that you would put in into Steam. On one side, I am glad, it's the reason why we still had (had because cs2 is coming) csgo be alive today. But it was just fuckery. This video was great, it was a nice recap.
Oh boy i love watching a documentary about a person I've never heard or cared about til now!
how have you never heard of phantom?
OMG same! i had never heard of Adin Ross until other youtubers i like started making videos about him.
Seriously, love the fact of how informative watching a documentary is as well.
That's why I'm here too Alex
@@tomaszmosak no idea who he is
I just wonder, how many poor parents have to deal with kids who are attempting to become streamers and spend hours a day just screaming constantly. You'd sooner get them a drumkit
Remember the World of Warcraft kid who shoved the remote up his butt?
my friend’s little brother is like this!!! he was always one of those kids who liked to scream at people while playing online games. now he’s graduated high school and is trying to turn his pastime of yelling at video games into a career as a twitch streamer. it’s not going very well, he has like 10 subscribers on twitch and he’s been streaming for like 2 years. he spends several hours a day just screeching and making noise, im sure the neighbors love it!!! at least he has a day job though lmao
@@stinky59 i have a friend and his little brother is in the exact same situation. Trying to become a streamer, has a day job, playing minecraft or some shit.
I'd just take the computer away. That nonsense is ridiculous.
Fr 😂😂
Kind of absurd that he is not in jail
Kind of absurd that he is in jail
@@everythingpony what?
@@everythingpony what? Dont leave us hanging
He is a millionaire. Once you get there then you dont usually go to jail. Two tier justice system.
People are still doing the same stuff today. Just look at any crypto casino
A walk down memory lane. Good video chief.
Thanks, bud!
Haha, here I am a year later after writing a comment about how I remember your content on this saga! Both of you did a great job.
I'll never understand how someone screaming high pitched into a low quality mic can rack up so many viewers
Children
Take notes you'll get rich
Children and people with an underdeveloped maturity level that seem to think loud = entertaining.
@@unicornmilk6158 American audiences in a nutshell.
Tyler1
"Let's see why he was so popular."
*Proceeds to play audio from chimpanzees reenacting the Battle of Gettysburg with the gain turned up 96 decibels.
Most famous streamer are always people i never heard of.
Yep
I imagine its those people that cant even name the show or character 2 years later. Just deadheads watching garbage like they always have.
No idea who he is, I'm just here to feel better about my own mistakes lmao
What's a streamer ?
@@FlushGorgon People who go kayaking in heavy currents.
Oh my god I had completely forgotten about this guy. His laughs and shrieks will again haunt my dreams.
his laughs and shrieks are now from when he's in one of his swimming pools.
@@MrLondonGo what?
@@Goozero1 The comment is saying that the only time he's making those kinds of sounds now is when he's enjoying going for a swim or some other activity paid for by the tons of money he made.
You know what I love most about this Kira Production? This guy was probably close to resurfacing, because a whole generation had passed, most people wouldn't have known whotf he was unless they were OG stream watchers. This vid just sent him back to the void for another 10yrs 👌🏻💕🤣🤣🤣 Thank you Kira, another top quality KiraTV production 👏🏻🥰
How did people even tolerated him back then?i lost it every time he yelled like a shrew.
back then stuff like that hit well tbh :/
Children seem to enjoy high energy shouting.
Children... that's how
Because as lame as it is, it was funny back then. Why do you think people still emulate the "loud = funny" thing? Its because it worked.
I enjoyed it. Then I grew up.
@@SokomPwnage exactly… I enjoyed it back then, but the creators who’ve also grown up and out of the “loud=funny” phase are the ones I still watch, JSE for example.
I’ve learned over my nearly 4 decades on this planet that for people like that, the money is never enough. The fact that he’s forced into obscurity will eat away at him for the rest of his life and he’ll never be satisfied. He wants the attention and he wants the high of making that fast cash. If he hasn’t blown all his money chasing that feeling, then at least he’ll be miserable knowing he’s a has-been.
I genuinely thought this guy had committed self-die a long time ago. I mean, i guess he committed career self-die, but i genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he does eventually because he CRAVES the spotlight and the attention. Nobody who puts on that kind of "persona" is content being a nobody. Look at that bald monkey looking guy who also streamed league of legends and was known for being the most toxic guy ever... that was his WHOLE persona (idk if he still streams but i never watched him to begin with). But he was exactly the same shtick as phantmlord... raging crying screaming being toxic as fuck and doing anything he could to be as awful as possible on stream... He got banned like 10 times but Riot still let him come back every time and twitch also because they care about money more than sending a message, then they wonder why their platform is full of screaming toxic asshole douchebags, or scantily clad whorish thots showing their tits or pussy "accidentally" on stream.
i bet he's miserable crying in his mansion
It wouldn't surprise me if he's using all that money to just gamble IRL.
@@TriWaZe I havent heard anything from him since this lawsuit win. And nothing of the massive fees that were likely involved in a lawsuit that took 3 years how is it a victory? if you claim for 100M i thought that is factored into costs? theres a chance hes in a lot of trouble.
@@Seph0rz I heard he only won like 20k so most likely he may have won the case but still got financially screwed. Which I really hope is the case cause f this guy and anyone that supports em
I followed his snapchat at the time and vividly remember him filming at a big pool party throwing thousands of dollars in the pool and mocking those he stole from
I always feel like an alien when I visit twitch because the only thing people want to see are extroverted, loud, high energy people who scream and have mental breakdowns. Thats literally what makes people famous, these traits.
I dont know why that attracts so many people. And its not just young people either.
"Loud content" can be funny sometimes, especially when you're actively engaging with the stream, but the majority of people (me included) keep the streams minimized/on the second monitor while doing something else.
And I don't have to tell you how annoying they can be while you're trying to do something else, even if you love the streamer in question.
Rightt? I had streamed Goose Goose Duck for about a year on Twitch and only shied near 200 followers by the end of it. I don't understand the attraction to obnoxious streamers XD
There's plenty of streamers that aren't just all hyper and screaming, but that's just the popular content for teens and zoomers who make up the vast majority of viewers. And this applies not only to twitch, but TH-cam and other social media as well. It's just that those platforms are much better at serving you exactly what you want rather than just what's popular.
Nah, I disagree on half of that while at the same time I see and agree with half of it because I an alien to an extent and do not feel extroverted by anybody besides making my own choices to lurk into oblivion... Also what's wrong with it being young people??? Do yo wish it had all ages or just like old people more??? Or maybe is it a milf to dilf thing???
@@theRealSlimGordon I agree.
Never put your trust into entertainers. They will always be strangers and you will never know the whole picture.
agreed. I dont know how people send hundreds of dollars to these streamers. Its fuckin' weird.
@@Joyapp Parasocial relationships, they make them feel like they're their friends or lovers (spoiler: they aren't)
Notice, if you will, how everything they do in the game is what "we" should do or how it will affect "our" game. Builds a one-sided relationship with their viewers.
A league of legends player is not an entertainer.
@@Joyappnot that wierd since its literally the norm for these types of stream. These people have too much money
You and Summoning Salt both have the skill of making a video on a topic I don't usually care about, but will watch the whole thing
all things considered he really got no real consequences for his actions. he is still rich and free.
But there's this documentary profiting off of what he did! Surely that's punishment enough?! 😂😂
Yep, he’s got enough money and enough youth to do whatever he wants next as long as he stays away from social media (which shouldn’t be hard for a man with his means).
Yeah, he won. And won big. Many would love to be in his shoes. This guy should have had his assets seized.
He lost his career but he'll be fine since he has millions upon millions to live comfortable.
Everything he scammed out of those who liked him, he kept. Nothing I am just tired of all these scammers keeping their ill gotten money.
The fact that this slimey fuck litterally got away by scamming people's money pisses me off. Just shows how corrupt the law enforcement is nowadays.
Exactly. The only thing bad that came out of this for him is maybe feeling bad about what he did, besides that he’s set for life!
At the same time casinos do it everyday. It’s easier too be mad when you can see the person
@@MagnetDzn It's upfront known that the casinos have odds in their favour. That's not kept a secret. While this guy didn't reveal that vital piece of info.
Really lovley when I ca hear the words "gambling" and "kids" in one sentence. Such a delight.
Robbed his fans and got to keep it all. No way. This right here is why people think the system is rigged.
It's genuinely incredible that there are so many people in prison and this creep isn't one of them. Steal from a corner store and you go to jail. Steal millions of dollars via illegal RIGGED gambling and the worst that happens is your twitch account gets terminated. This society too corrupt to survive much longer.
Steal from everybody and you're a bank
Jesus christ get a grip.
Phantomlord? This is my first time ever hearing about this Twitch streamer.
Same but i remember that ther was a guy promote csgo gambling site that he own to his viewers. So it was he i'm guessing
@@peger was him*
@@peger Not necessarily. This happened to a few other influencers as well. e.g. TmarTn, from whom you have also seen a clip in this video.
Why do I enjoy deep dives into the actions of people I’ve never heard of so much?!?
Is this meant to be a success story? Cause he got away with it. All of it. Who cares if his reputation is beyond repair when he never has to work another day in his life and can do whatever he wants? At the end of the day he's not going to walk into a store and be recognized as "phantomlord" and told to leave.
He had lavish habits and lifestyle, I doubt his wealth would last for the rest of his life. I believe the idea behind the lawsuit was to secure more money and be comfortable.
He's in jail?
yeah, there are a lot of streamers/ content creators who fade into obscurity without making that kind of money. all in all its really just a retirement. you cant do that kind of job forever anyway.
I guarantee this dude is broke right now.
@@witchhoggle8704I hope so
I'd like to throw out a little, inconsequential side story that happened about 10 years ago where Phantom was the catalyst.
Phantom on one of his League streams, which I enjoyed watching back in the day, said he was looking for more people to volunteer (they were upfront that it was unpaid) with a Minecraft side project that was currently in the works. It was going to be a server for his fans/subscribers to explore, and you could find things like League codes for skins or whatever within notes in hidden chests.
The team needed more builders, and I submitted essentially a Minecraft resume (I annoy my friends with this story every time I can). I got in and started volunteering under one of the more senior people. This map was HUGE. There were whole statues of League characters, secret areas everywhere, places from other games - you name it. My grand additions were a massive cathedral and the start of a "1 to 1" copy of the Water Temple from Ocarina of Time. Also, a particularly sinister one-way trap where skeleton heads would mock you (via the wooden signs) for falling in, and you had to suffocate yourself via a trapped chest + piston to get out. That was vetoed lol. I wasn't present, but when Phantom saw my dark cathedral in the swamp area when he came to check on progress, he loved it - at least that's what the others told me. It was a nice feeling. He even gave us some cash for our work. Nothing earth-shattering I think (I turned it down before they even told me an amount), but it was still a lovely gesture.
But what I mostly remember was the community of builders. Great, level-headed people who just built things and kept the project going. Phantom, as far as I knew, left creative control almost entirely to us. it was pretty fun hanging out with the rest of the team in Skype, using WorldEdit to make gargantuan things. Unfortunately, the project sputtered and died out as I think Phantom's focus went elsewhere. Someone kept a copy of the map before the server shut down.
I only remember one name from the team after this decade of time - iW00T. I hope you figured out how to script a copy of the player character to attack in that one Water Temple room. It's probably trivial to do nowadays, but it felt like you were really pushing the scripting boundaries then - at least to ignorant me. To the rest of the team - I hope you're all doing well.
@@AndreiGalan97 me, i read it and it was a genuinely neat story
@@AndreiGalan97 Yes, it was lovely.
@@AndreiGalan97bruh if you don't read the comment why even take the time to write out that you didn't read it. Sounds more like a waste of time in the end than reading the comment.
@@Kikokiki_tt yesn't
Great story, I hope others who built with you find this 💓
Incredibly stupid… that explains a lot of the amazing people or organizations you cover. And I love it.
On one hand, definitely stupid. On the other hand, he probably has to never work a day in his life anymore. Not a bad deal for him personally I would say.
have the world in ur hands and they give it up by being stupid and try save it with all the same excuses we always hear
This a fascinating world I knew nothing about until I came across it on your channel.
I appreciate these documentaries you make much more than a lot of others one would find on this site about the careers of online personas. I think a large part of that has to do with the fact that in your documentaries, these people have actually done things that deserve scorn, whereas I feel like many others seem to insult people for a change in priorities.
Anyways, keep up the great work, I hope TH-cam's monetization team has been treating you more kindly.
Money doesn't "Change" you, it only magnifies who you really are.
Money does change people, it's not that hard
The love of, and desire for more, money changes people.
@@everythingpony it doesn't Change people. It's not that hard to understand.
I don't really agree with that. It depends on how that money comes. if you're a regular joe and you come into money, then I can see your statement as mostly true. However, If you are a streamer and over a period of 10 years let's say, then you are gradually changing who you are over that time just to get more and more money. Especially if you're young, I think they are literally being changed into something else. Once I get rich, I'll come back and let you know how it went.
A bit of a hyperbolic analogy here, but a serious ethical/philosophical point to explore:
A man acquires a gun, and one day, in the heat of the moment, uses that gun to shoot someone in the head. He expresses remorse for his actions, stating that he never wanted to kill anyone, never meant for any of this to happen - that he's not that kind of guy, and he doesn't know how he got to that place. Would that man have been 'the kind of man that shoots someone in the head' if he had never acquired the gun? Would he have legitimately 'not been that guy', or, in fact, would he have been exactly that guy, only without the means to actually do it at that time?
We know that there are plenty of things in a person that are latent. Addiction, for example - it is often said that an alcoholic is never not an alcoholic, even when they're sober. You're never *not* the kind of person you are, even when you lack the means to do the things that would imply.
Most of us would prefer, I think, to believe, that we have an accurate self-image, that we understand the kind of person we are and what we would be inclined to do. Perhaps he really believed that, prior to the events of the scams, he was not the kind of person who would scam people; self-image is not something easy to change, and the brain is resistant to changing its own perspective on its own identity, especially when the newly implied identity is negative. "I am not a scammer, this isn't who I am" the brain thinks, and it will look for any possible excuse, no matter how implausible, to deny accepting that either they have changed, to avoid having to face the possibility that they'd been wrong about themselves for so long, or possibly even willfully deceiving themselves about such things. The brain will blame anything, and anyone else, and can become adamant, angry, and unpredictable when cornered.
We'll probably never know for sure if they money changed him, or if it was a situation of a man suddenly gaining the ability to do something that, consciously or not, he already had the inclination to do. Perhaps, like many things, it is a little bit of both - a vulnerability of mind and character, worsened by opportunity and circumstance.
None of this is to excuse the behaviour at all, and nor would I excuse it. But it is a strange feeling to wonder what kind of things might be lurking in our own minds to come forward under the wrong sort of opportunity, and how we might better prepare ourselves to be aware of, and handle such things.
That is not a downfall! That is walking away with millions while not getting sued.
I mean it's a big downfall in retrospect. First HUGE twitch streamer that nobody remembers the name of
@@tux_duhI'm sure he must be crying over it while swimming in his money vault like Scrooge. Let's face it, the guy won. He clearly has no conscience so he's not bothered by any of this. He's just enjoying his wealth now.
I love a good fall after the rise story! Thanks Kira~
I remember him back then and watched him at points. Thanks for filling out the story Kira. Quality TV mate, well done.
I remember seeing this guy's name around a lot back when I was playing league. I didn't watch streams back then and preferred to watch edited videos and such, but he was a name that was mentioned a lot by other creators. It's definitely a ride learning who that actually was beyond just a name.
This kind of stuff deserve very long prison sentences
Dude was just ahead of the curve. He would have a multi-million dollar contract with Kik if he was around today.
How the hell did he hit that high a pitch in his voice on the regular without destroying his vocal cords? My throat hurts after just watching a short clip
Every time you played a clip of this guy, I had to turn down the volume by half and resist shutting off the video completely. How people can choose to watch streamers like this, especially on a regular basis, has to be a mental affliction.
“twitch’s most famous streamer” i’ve never heard of this dude in my life
Korath: "Who?"
He was on top back in the day.
My God zoomers have the attention span of a small rodent lmao
You were probably in nappies when he was at the top
U young then
the old saying, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
that guy is awful to listen to.
Thanks for doing these docs bro.
I watched PL league streams live back then but only knew the csgo scandel.
The ending had my shook. Awesome video!
Your work ethic is insane. I don’t know any other TH-camr that can match the quality to quantity ratio you have.
I Dont get tired of these video's and always watch them all the wat to the end. Keep it up buddy
9 minutes in and already want this guy to be sat in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
9 out of 10 people you do essays on I’ve never heard of. I’m glad of that but happy to watch your essays like it’s a car crash. Greed always undoes these people.
I love minecraft but saying "I am growing older... i am maturing" as you have a minecraft pickaxe on your wall in the background is kinda hilarious.
Oh matured people aren't doing any childish things like playing games. Sure.
He wished for money, but lost what gave his life meaning. An apt genie twist for his wish.
The consequences for committing fraud are… being rich forever.
In the UK when you make a lawsuit you are paying 5% of what you are hoping to claim thats just a court fee. There is a chance the guy has been royally messed up by the fees.
LMAO PhantomLord??? NO WAY!!! I thought this guy would stay humble. Used to love his LoL streams. I remember when he went to the Korea servers and would play AP Yi.
We must never forget and almost never forgive people like PhantomL0rd and TMartn...
The weirdest thing imo is that Tmartn litterally has fans and countinues to post to this day as if nothing happend.
Money can’t buy taste. Look at that freaking soul patch. YOIKES!
The worst part about the unregulated gambling stuff Valve created isn't that people lost money when gambling, it's that so many kids were set on a path to a life of gambling.
when he not being a league player it is the end of him. The stream become bored when he start CS:GO , not even playing the games, just gambling
was the one of his stream viewer back in the days. His community totally destoryed from his hand.
These streamers are so damn annoying. Who wants to watch a grown man scream at a video game? I don't get it...
If you think that's all streaming is then you're very ignorant but that is some streamers' gimmick. Which I agree is obnoxious.
same, very obnoxious. Well i'm guess time to die grandpa :D lol
@@Josie.770 he didn't say all streamers tho
I don't get it myself dude annoying asf
I mean that all depends man if you find it funny or not unless it's actually hilarious and they're just literally breaking their stuff then that's a different issue.
I mean I scream at games too sometimes.
PhantomLord was such a vibe back in the day, specially the Mexican PhantomLord that shit was FIRE, it's just so sad looking at this documentaries seeing people you followed for years just being a mere memory now.
you could have mentioned his scamming underage girlfriend also, Dinglederper who blackmailed people after lewd chats
I remember hearing about this gambling stuff years back and all the scams and shady shit going on.
Damn seeing all that CS footage makes me miss those days so much. Played since beta 0.6 but stopped after I had kids about 8 years ago. I can't tell you the intense nostalgia I got seeing that gameplay. awesome vid btw lol
Makes a shit-ton of money playing a video game he likes...and isn't happy enough with it. Sometimes wanting more more more is someone's real downfall, clearly.
I never heard of this guy...I guess I'm just not up on my twitch meta.
I've never seen him in my life.
We live in a time with too many famous people.
i guess it depends in which scenes you hang out, i knew him didnt like him back then either.
Same, He looks lame and boring though, I'd rather watch something else.
Same here. I don’t frequent twitch much but still, I thought I would’ve heard at least a whisper of him somewhere
He was popular 8-10 years ago. If you werent playing league or csgo back then, then you would've likely never heard of him.
Its somewhat fascinating how different people are when liking something, I cannot fathom anybody spending 30 seconds on a stream with a guy screaming outta his lungs and destroying my hearing in the process, but I'm sure I like many things others find boring LOOL
Bro, people who are 20 now, were 10 when this guy was famous. Nobody knows him know, except for people who were watching his streams back then.
Now*, and agreed
I completely forgot about this guy until now 😂 annoying streamer but his clips were all over TH-cam then
Do u think ppl disappear when they hit 30 or something LMFAOO
Man i had kira videos on auto play while i took a nap and the screams startled the heck out me 😭
lol He ruined his life by stealing a bunch of money, getting away with it, and retiring to quiet luxury and never having to work again. Man, a real cautionary tale there.
He used to be a pro gamer and his passion was video games so that real type of fame he found was completely destroyed for him. I honestly think the video overestimates how much money he made in comparison to how he spends or how good he was.... i dont seem to recall him going big after the initial twich run he was just sort of there in the very early league days and suddenly he left CLG stopped streaming league and dissapeared onto CSGO.
He was good at league in D1 but for only a small time i before the the higher tier ranked system and introduction of master/grandmaster after he could barely play in low gold. On stream he became an alcoholic got into various toxic relationships and was involved in multiple lawsuits.
This guy probably had a multitude of problems that you and i are both happier without.
I don't know how people can watch someone who randomly screams & shreiks so loudly. Although i also don't understand the attraction of watching a stranger playing games online.
Excellent video. I love your content. It's not hyped, or dramatized unnecessarily. Well researched, and to the fact. I enjoy all the themes and topics you are doing, whether it's internet/gaming history, or political/global scandals that gets screwed by the algorithm. I can imagine some topics or themes can be challenging, especially when it's contra the narratives major countries are trying to do. You're doing great.
I still do not understand how these loud and obnoxious characters garner this amount of success.
I don't think he destroyed his life, he pretty much got off scot-free. His rep is destroyed but only his online rep, he could pretty much build a new business under a new pseudonym with the amount of money he got.
Holy shit, phantomlord that guy had been buried in the depths of my mind. Didnt even know he went down like that.
Oh man this is a throwback. I used to watch this man play league all do the time
Power and money doesn't change you, it just reveals your shadow
I don't undersrand why anyone watches these streamers who just scream like children. It's beyond unbearable.
I used to be a big fan. I watched his videos all the time. I guess the times were different at that time and kids really enjoyed such content. Now that I look at it, it’s absolutely unbearable lmao
Fascinating. I also learnt that I prefer my cup of tea to not be screaming and freaking out.
Hello KiraTV, would you by any chance be willing to talk about MapleStory again? Recently a class was announced that it will be removed, and it's sent a good chunk of the playerbase in an uproar for multiple reasons, including how it sets a bad precedent for other class removals and Nexon's lack of communication on the matter.
No?
This is crazy how I just avoid those scam people, that some people are following but I just feel that they are not a good person, something is not right about them and I just don't watch them, and later I see videos like that about them making some bad stuff.
I always enjoy a good video related to games and gaming.
Good shit kira, i was hoping a video would be made on this guy.
Hope all is well!
You can't fake anything if you want a sustainable career. If you're not being yourself it's only a matter of time until it takes a toll.
really boggles my mind that this guys entire lifes work boils down to screaming at video games, opening csgo cases and scamming kids. truly a role model
That is the zoomer mindset.. Wasted generation
It boggles my mind that actual legal action wasn't taken against him considering what he did was highly illegal and he made off with millions of dollars of people's money by rigging his own gambling website. He should have lost all of his money and also had a long prison sentence.
It was a technicality that let him get away with it.
Because the wagers were made exclusively with in-game items that had no value or utility outside of the CSGO community there was technically no money involved in the transactions and gambling regulations were not worded in a way that accounted for people playing games of chance with them.
The fact that the items would then be sold for real money outside of the gambling site created just enough of a distance between the games of chance and the profits from the scam that the regulators couldn't come after him.
It's like how in Japan you'll often see pachinko places across the street from pawn shops: the players use the balls they win on the games to exchange for prizes of no real monetary value and then cross the road and get the money from the guy across the road who buys them for way more than they're worth before handing them back to the guys at the pachinko business.
The website he ran took no money: it was selling the items after the fact that made it profitable.
This meant that they could rig the whole thing without having any monetary transactions on their books (besides their operational costs) and therefore there wasn't any way to prosecute him for taking people's cash because nobody actually spent money to participate and the sales were made on a market place that wasn't under his control, rendering those transactions no more illegal than anything else being sold between CSGO players on the other platform.
I believe that the issue was twofold: the laws regulating gambling made exceptions for things like trading cards, which would be the closest existing comparison to the type of goods being wagered, and the gaming industry was already taking advantage of players in similar ways through similar games of random chance within their online games and lobbied heavily to retain the ability to exploit their audience through gambling mechanics designed to induce compulsive spending.
I believe that the regulations were subsequently tightened up in some parts of Europe to outlaw these systems and treat them as a form of gambling, however the best that regulation of online gambling can achieve is preventing people without a VPN from accessing them within their borders. On the internet there's nothing to stop someone registering a business like this in a country without regulations and blocking off incoming traffic from places where it is illegal (all the while knowing that people in those countries are participating too, except three VPN makes it appear that their IP addresses are from countries where it's not illegal.)
I've met with him in Berlin 2013, before all these shit show. He was a genuine guy. Dorky, average gamer . Who actually loves his job. Sadly money got better of him... I wish he would suffer the consequences of promoting his own gambling site and influencing thousands
Kira, good video as always. Keep it up! Will check out more soon!
not gonna lie.. ''throwing away'' his entire life (his internet persona?) for enough money to live like a king the rest of his life.. I don't think he lost anything at all...He won...
He lost his rep, which is important for a lot of online celebs.
@@guardiansoulblade2673 ????
@@guardiansoulblade2673 especially if he’s the narcissistic type, being a “has-been” will drive him crazy over time, and I’d bet he’s chasing the feeling of the game,ing, the cash grabs, and the thrill of seeing all his numbers go up.
That’s like saying DSP won because he making 100k a year, more than what the average American makes.
@@Robert_D_MercerYou dumb?
Love these
As a headphone user I woild appreciate some form of "idiot screaming like he jsut got stabbed" warning, if possible.
i am on an iPad and reaching for that volume button is clumsy so yes to that!
This is one of the few times where I actually know and watched the person the video is about.
Thanks for this, i always wondered the whole story. Used to love watching him play league.
Same. His league streams were fucking peak. Good old times
I miss PL so much, wish he still stream.
Wait, he did not go to jail? Got away scot-free?
It's so weird to think I used to watch this guy back when he played League of Legends on early twitchtv, and this is how he ended up.
Twitch is still early
ScamOG never forget
Crazy video. Great stuff Kira
So were there any legal repercussions for defrauding all those people?
lol guess
Nah he left with the money. He won
He's in jail
@@everythingpony source please
Hes hiding for now.
feels really bad being a long time fan of his during the time this all went down... id stopped watching cuz i was a league fan at the time and didnt care for skin cases or gambling. but then found out what he did over there and i remember all the good times watching him and its all sour now. its both sad and pathetic.
I remember watching him as a child in 2012 - 2014 before he went to shit together with league of legends itself.
His taste of music introduced me to the metal genre which I love to this day and to one of my first and favorite metal bands "KoRn" when I once heard one of their songs on PhantomL0rd's stream which the title of is "Blame".
After hearing that song I just fell in love with the sound and was desperate to find out the title which was not so easy back then for me since I barely knew english at all.
After finally figuring out the title and listening to it in a good quality I begun to progressively listen to more and more metal songs and eventually before I've even noticed I was hooked on metal for life and I still am just as strong even 10 years later.
The video from that stream is even still on TH-cam I believe. The video was titled "steak lord" or something in which he was playing aram and trying to order a steak online for himself while listening to the song in question.
At least for that bit I'll always be grateful to him.
Too bad he had to end up being such a sad person and ruin his career but oh well at least I've gained something positive from watching him back then together with good, lasting memories.
Same Same... He was the best once. KoRn, Bodom, In Flames, Soilwork, Trivium, Disturbed, BFMV, We Came As Romans, Breaking Benjamin, Threat Signal, Sybreed, Scar Symmetry, Kamelot, Dreamshade, Disarmonia Mundi, Pillar, TrustCompany, Metallica, etc etc... Just to Name a few :D Man so many Bands I know and Love cause of him. I'll treasure these my whole life. Sad he threw It all away, im sure He still would be a cool Streamer if He just kept playing other Games.
@@penneropa6999
High five.
No way you basically said he's okay in your book because he showed you a Korn song. You're a cornball
KoRn.... Metal?!?!
What?
@@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK
Don't even start buddy.
Nu *metal* is still metal.
Okay this is the third League streamer I used to watch that has popped up on Kira's channel now....
I love when Kira puts out a video about someone I've never heard of and they were apparently "famous" at some point lmfao
Just because you haven’t heard of them didn’t mean they weren’t famous lad.
This in a world with rampant hunger. It’s a strange place.
I am of the believed that money doesn't change the kind of person you are, but it only shows the true person that you are
And this is why to this day, I'm never giving a streamer any of my money.
I was part of his following 10 years ago. And it was crazy shit.
But one thing remained in my mind ever since Richard Lewis (at the time one of the biggest voices in e-sports, today someone that most of the industry doesn't want and that blocks you on twitter just because even if you don't interact with him) did that "investigation" and it was everyone was blaming PL and also TH-camrs like TMartin, which is totally understandable, but I always thought the same thing: How is it that Valve just escaped this unscathed.
It will always be mind boggling to me that no one ever even mentioned Valve as the first culprit of this whole mess, creating a system where this could happen. Funnily enough, years and years later people and sometimes in EU legislation coming out against "Lootboxes", and yet CSGO and Valve, still no mention.
According to Valve, if I recall correctly, they stated that skins "did not change in any shape, way or form the gameplay, and also they were just virtual items, thus not holding ANY REAL MONETARY VALUE". In addition, they stated that it was supposed to be "something for people to play like they were part of a black market of weapons" making a reference to the Steam market. I couldn't believe it, since to open a box, you needed 2.49 dollars per key of real money that you would put in into Steam.
On one side, I am glad, it's the reason why we still had (had because cs2 is coming) csgo be alive today. But it was just fuckery.
This video was great, it was a nice recap.
I can't believe people will participate in loot box games period...if it's a game they paid up front to play in the beginning...
I remember Phantomlord from his league days, a pity, he was very entertaining.