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The worst thing that happened to me when I went to see Black Panther is when I said “you too” after the lady at the register told me to enjoy my movie. I will think about this for the rest of my life.
_"They are rated mature but there isn't anything stopping kids from playing them."_ - Yes there is. It's called parents. If you have kids, you have a responsibility to monitor what content your kids see and play. It's really that simple. I don't get why people like this want the government (or society in general) to raise their kids for them. That's not how it works.
Cim Stores also just flat out won't sell M rated games to kids. I was in my 20's before Gamestop stopped asking for my ID whenever I bought a damn game.
We have to warn Philly!! He got the facts about Logans suicide wrong and attacked him in videos. Logan faked the suicide i watched proof in 'Matty Love 2 debunks'
Blaming video games for the shooting is absolute bullshit. I sometimes play Goat Simulator and I'm still not raging goat just like I'm still not a surgeon for playing surgeon simulator.
i disagree partially about rap music. rap was a way to exalted your every day pain and suffering on paper. just like most music, if you take apart the love love ah love part.But nowadays , it's cool to deal drug. it's cool to be part of a gang. to be a bad boy. it's not the case everywhere for everyone but you would get the idea. In the end of the day , we still can look at one clear fact: thoses politicians are just scape goating. the glass is guilty not because half empty or half full but because there is a glass on the table.
Well, I DID want to become a farmer after playing Stardew Valley. However, the claim that videogame violence leads to real life violence have been debunked time and time again, and it always saddens me when people use it to try and further some agenda.
I whole-heartedly agree with you that video games are not to blame for the shooting but I also don’t think just because it doesn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to anybody. By that same logic, if you don’t kill someone with guns doesn’t mean other people won’t kill with guns. I realized my mindset could be wrong, so I’m open to discussion.
Gracilda T I know I exaggerated, I'm just pissed of that politicians still won't aknowledge that guns are the problem, not video games. I think the reason people think that games and music are the problem is that those psychopaths tend to play/listen to those, but they definitely don't cause a completely normal person to go havoc. It might trigger an already 'insane' person, but won't turn someone normal into a mass murderer.
The kid shouldn't of ever been able to get a gun. He had the police come to his house 39 times in 7 years. He posted on Instagram about how he was going to kill people with his AR-15. He was cutting his wrists, he had violent outbursts and he was diagnosed with autism. He had the FBI on his ass and they failed to act. Three students, including Nicolas girlfriend went to the school administration saying they thought he was going to shoot up the school, and they failed to act. How did none of this information come up when he tried to buy a gun? This is ridiculous.
Because the anti-gun criminals in the system want these thugs to do the school shootings so the anti-gun movement can use them to push for eventual gun bans in the name of "public safety". Anyone with logic can see the obvious...
Damon Morales No, no. There are a select few of us who despise Phil, so we come here to fight him with facts. Phil is so biased it’s not even funny. Lol
Christopher, if you did not know there's an anti-gun movement in this country who will do things to further push their agenda, I'm sorry you're so gullible and clueless. To each their own... And if the FBI is genuinely THAT incompetent to not catch this shooter after seeing all of those signs beforehand, then you should really start praying right now. We're doomed if this is how the "top" law enforcement agency conducts its business today. I don't think they're that genuinely incompetent though. There's another reason why they let it go. Wake up.
Yeah GTA was a big issue in the mongol empire. Ghangis used to play like 30 hours a week, then he'd go off and behead an entire town. video games are disgusting. Did you know that Alexander the Great invented the first video game before marching his armies across Europe? That's why kids should play less violent things. Like Football, or Hockey. Good clean wholesome games. No violence involved!
Azathoth43 That comment is so incredibly tone deaf. Nobody is saying that having a gun makes you a violent person. Nobody EVER said that. But having a violent person be able to just go to a store and buy an automatic rifle basically without any hurdles is ridiculous.
+Don Korb yah, its so ridiculus its actually illegal and has been for over 20 years. its almost like you have no idea what you're talking about or something.
How is playing a video game the same thing as a solider going to war? To me that is a slap in the face to veterans and downplaying the horrible shit they have gone through.
alright i need an explanation. How can guns not be the problem if it is the weapon of choice for these types of attacks? I get that other weapons such as knives and stuff can do similar but it can't deal nearly as much havoc as a gun could. Whether the person is mental or not shouldn't be the scapegoat for guns being a-ok. And since we can't fix the mental people holding the gun why not just make it harder for the mental people to get the gun in the first place? It would be a compromise for the responsible gun owners at least rather than banning them altogether which we know is impossible at this stage. There's also the issue of the black market but no matter what we do we can't really deal with that type of stuff immediately. We should at least change something because blaming gun massacres on people isn't really doing much at all except stalling until the next shooting
nintendowonder the boston bombing no guns were involved same in the Oklahoma bombing. The deaths in 9/11 were cause by a plane. I know plenty of people who own guns and have never shot anyone. There are also tons of people behind bars for killing mass amonts of people without a gun. Clearly it is a mental issue and not a weapon issue
Any politician that blames video games, music, movies, or other media for violence despite the mountains of evidence showing them that they are wrong needs to be fired and barred from ever taking and form of politics for life.
Many parents these days are still children themselves, in mind if not in body, and rely upon the state to support them and their kids. Gone is the day of the stable and balanced nuclear family. It is now the day of state dependency, glorification of mental instability and toting your lack of personal responsibility for your own actions about like it's some kind of twisted virtue to be 'oppressed' giving you free license to oppress others. Then someone gets shot and everyone is in a tizzy to pass the blame onto anything it'll stick to meanwhile the shooter gets 3 hots and a cot on the public's dime for years and all the media attention they could ever want.
Humans have always been surrounded by death in the things they watch. Romans had Gladiator fights, other times in history executions were public events that people watched for fun. Honestly watching fake deaths in movies and games sounds like an improvement.
Sides it's not like playing war games automatically make you good at shooting. I remember this one guy saying Watch Dogs teaching kids to be hacker. Yea, sure, pushing controller buttons in a bad game makes you an expert in IT apparently.
Playing video games actually make me NOT ever want to kill anyone in real life. I can see the consequences of such fatal actions, and playing video games just strengthens that stance.
Most adults are also able to separate reality from function. Unfortunately, the people making these calls are insane and immature, as they all seem to agree that they can't separst the difference between fiction and real life, and that they have no self control.
Yes blame video games, it is not like people in every other modern country also play them but somehow they don't seem to have school shootings or anything like that.
Former Navy. I have seen violence and death. You are not DEsensitized by killing but given a great gift called PTSD. I have spent several years in therapy so far. I still wake up kicking and screaming. Seeing death is not desensitizing the kids, It is a good outlet for feelings. Just like music.
Thank you, the problem us the people arguing against the games have most likely never spent more than a minute playing or watching a game, and most likely never killed. As someone who plays games I can say i still cringe at gore in movies, so I can't even begin to imagine the real thing.
Thank you for your service, Kait. And I feel the same as Khalid. I'm desensitized because violence has been glorified in the media so much lately, like reality tv. Got a gun? Be famous for two weeks... more if you're a good shot or have lots of ammo. It's disgusting.
I was the only white guy in the theatre on opening day when I saw black panther (in Canada) and nobody said anything, not a problem unless you make it one. Stop being racist because a movie is told from a black point of view. I also might add I love the movie and thought it was very well executed and made you think.
Jambr0 damn that’s amazing. My friend and I were among one of the only black people watching the movie when we went. It was in Canada but It wasn’t opening day tho.
The whole "No White ppl should see the movie" seems like something that was severely exaggerated and mostly spread through bs stories like Phil mentioned. I live in a mostly Black neighborhood, nobody cares if White people see a movie or not.
I'd wager that the black community would prefer white people support a black director making a film that largely revolves around a black dominated cast vs assault them for supporting it...
My problems with Laura's counter-argument: 1) It attacks her opponent instead of dissecting his argument. Even if she were right about LeBron as a person, what he said would still stand, because she didn't confront it. 2) It assumes that people from a certain background (in this case educational, professional and maybe financial) are ignorant/ incapable of critical thinking, which is objectively false. 3) Even if she COULD prove LeBron's ignorance, her argument assumes that a person's ignorance automatically renders anything they say false, which is illogical. What if he said something she agreed with? Would that make both of them wrong? No, even ignorant people can be right sometimes, and their ignorance (which in this case hasn't even been proven) doesn't excuse her from examining their argument.
Good Fellow if she kept her know-it-all mouth shut she wouldn't have shown her ignorance on live television and neither would she embarrass herself as much as she did. I'm glad she got all the backlash, though. Deserved it.
If you are on tv as a person from a newschannel discrediting somebody's arguments, you DO have to back it up with facts. It's a news channel not the view. They are not on MTV, they are not a gossip channel. If they do not dissect the arguments, why do they exist? If the only thing you need to do is look at somebody's point of view and say "shut up i dont agree with you so you should stick with whatever it is you do" then they should just shut down because everyone can do the same without this channel.
Good Fellow To your first point: I agree. His argument does, in my opinion, have its flaws, which have been highlighted before. My problem comes from the fact that she did not point this out, choosing instead to comment on LeBron himself. And since, as you said, it has been dissected numerous times, it should have been easy for her to debunk what he said. To your second point: what you said is true, but we cannot dismiss a person's argument until his inability to think critically has been proven, as opposed to merely assumed. To your third point: If there was no argument worth dissecting, then what was the point of commenting at all? Was she simply there to assault his character? If so, then that's kind of a jerk move, and beneath her as a reporter. If LeBron was wrong, I think she should have proved him wrong instead of telling him to shut up. Because I can get behind logically pointing out the flaws in an argument, but I can't get behind someone being told to shut up.
back in the 50's and 60's it was comics that was blamed for all the violence and youth crimes, in the 70's it was rock and roll that got the blamed. in the 80's it was horror flicks, video games and rock music, every decade they pick a scape goat
The two sportsmen who that dumb woman reported as being ungrammatical and barely intelligible were perfectly understood by me, a white guy sitting k England. Was she merely stupid or misleading the public with fake news?
The big question is- why should I listen to someone in the media who won't let someone else have a voice? I would never have heard that whole spiel had you not showed it, I would have turned the channel after hearing the first hint of shut-down. I don't care which side of politics people take, when they start disputing people's right to share their opinion instead of the facts/content, they lose me.
The answer is simple, Basketball players are rarely know for their intelligence or argumentative skills, News anchors are sometimes known for their intelligence and usually their argumentative talents. Lebron can puff himself up all he wan't but at the end of the day he is just another overpaid idiot celebrity that thinks we should care about what they think.
Really, How she is trying to silence him? He spoke first, she reacted to his speech. And any person with basic education knows that "Shut up and do ..." translates to "I don't want to hear you, go and do your job.". We can discuss if she has been hypocritical here, but you need to recognize the problem here. We are giving the microphone to celebrities using emotions to influence the people and not to the people who spend time researching and studding the problems. This is pure form of propaganda and manipulation. People, stop falling victim of 'Argument from authority' logical fallacy. "Don't be useful idiot."
Did I "kidnapped" you "at gunpoint and forced" you to read what I wrote? And yet you find your self 'compelled'' to 'educate' me. He (LeBron) has an opinion, she has an opinion about his opinion. I have an opinion about their opinions and you have an opinion about my opinion. As long she (Laura) has no power of preventing him (LaBron) from speaking, her statement "Shut up..." translates to 'I don't want to hear it." and certainly it is her right not to listen and to announce her refusal to listen. (It might not be smart, but this is different subject entirely.)
I'm a 43 year old female streamer/gamer, I play many games, including shoot um ups and not once have I ever thought of getting a real gun and shooting it off at anyone or anything in all my years of gaming.
Exactly, it also does the very opposite effect to me. I find games to be stress relievers (unless im grinding for that one event in a rhythm game) I've played horror games, first person shooter games, rhythm games, and like four GTAs (i think we all know what gta is about lol) and a lot of other stuff I don't remember. And never have I ever wanted to legit bring a gun and shoot people because of these games.
Is that really such a bad thing? These days, people around that age grew up with videogames. Some have been playing games since they were 10/15 years old and are in their 40s now. Do you plan to stop gaming once you hit, say 25, because after that you're too old? Nahhh :) if you enjoy gaming, you'll keep gaming until you can't game anymore XD age has no restriction on this.
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As a combat veteran that grew up on all the controversial violent video games (Doom, Mortal Kombat, CoD, etc..), trust me, they don't help you pull the trigger. When you're staring at the possibility of losing your humanity and actually killing another human being that might have been a good friend in another life, they don't help or influence real world violence.
Haha, basketball players can't have political opinions. What could they possibly contribute, as a citizen living in the same country as you? It's not like the politics of their country affects them or anything.
Pretty sure the media does more to encourage violence than video games. As for Laura, I don't think she was being racist, but she was certainly being dismissive to pander to her fans and conservatives.
Ryan Hancock But it's a serious accusation to make. Racist? Because she also voiced her opinion? It shuts down debate. Personally, I have more respect for Laura because of her experience and knowledge as opposed to two athletes who make a hell of a lot of money playing a sport I have no interest in...and are comparing our country to a basketball team. Their only comparison is from basketball? Try reading a book once in awhile. Otherwise, I have no interest in listening to those two cursing and insulting the president.
J R I fully understand your point, and agree. I don't think anyone should ever get their politics from celebs/sportsmins, but didn't go deep on the subject, just the surface issue.
I forget who said it but theres a quote that goes something like "after sandyhook when no laws were enacted I knew nothing would ever change. If a school full of 6 year olds can get gunned down and nothing happens than there is no line"
Sandy Hook happened with stolen guns. If they changed the gun laws after Sandy Hook, it'd be like putting a band-aid on your arm to fix your broken leg.
EMAN00619 I say the same thing the only way thing could chanhe is if toodles dies and not anybody toddles, toddles with rich and powerful parents. It's sad and I hope this never....
Dan Hodges, a British journalist, "In retrospect, Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over."
Actually violet crime peaked in the '70s and '80s when video games first became a universally accessible activity, it then plummeted as it began to really proliferate in the 90s, 00s, and '10s. These are the same group of people whose factions have called D&D, Pokemon, and Harry Potter "Satanic."
jatocato I could add that these same games and movies are also available all over the world and they do not have the same problems in those countries even where guns are just as available.
I tried to go see Black Panther yesterday but this big black man was standing outside the theaters and he said "no White people allowed here, I have the high ground" and then he used a light saber to cut off all four of my limbs. Unbelievable!
People telling Lebron James and Kevin Durant to "shut up and dribble" and express their opinions off the court need to understand that they took their opinions off the court. They didn't just stop a game, grab some microphones and say all of this. They said it during a PODCAST, that was where their opinions are welcomed to keep the conversation going. They have the right to express their thoughts they're not just basketball players, they're people with feelings and opinions. Just like the Fox News lady. Man, Fox is one of the most hypocritical things I've ever seen. Edit: didn't know this comment got so many likes so I just wanted to fix some *_UngRaMmATical_* errors
She doesn't literally mean to "shut up" as in assuming he has no literal right to speak. Please get some intellectual honesty here. When someone says "Oh shut up!" in a debate, they're not telling the person that they have no literal right to speak. They're basically saying "You're so clueless on this topic, please, for your sake and my sanity, go somewhere else and stop talking?" It's a jab back at LeBron for saying Trump talking is laughable. Huge difference in context here.
shut up (or shut someone up) phrasal verb of shut 1. informal stop (or cause someone to stop) talking. "just shut up and listen" synonyms: be quiet, keep/stay quiet, be/keep/stay silent, hold one's tongue, keep one's lips sealed; Your basically saying what the other person is saying makes no intellectual sense because you cant fathom or dont want to attempt to fathom what they are talking about. While its not explicitly saying you have no right to speak, the term shut up is an ad hominem attack which makes you both unintelligent, and a snowflake. It also makes her completely unprofessional since she styles herself as being a journalist. Also Chuck Norris was never on Fox. Chuck Norris is multidimensional. Fox just happened to be in the same spacetime continuum as he wasXD
Liberty and Justice Who in a debate would ever say 'Oh shut up' though? It's just so immature, no? I think that would immediately disqualify anything you have to say after that. It's rude to the other person who has expressed their opinion in an open, respectful way to 'debate' you. That's exactly what she did disqualified, she herself and looked like a fool. Especially when she took an uninformed shot at his education when he did in fact complete highschool.
"or express their opinions on off court need to understand the latter is exactly what they did" - The dumbest thing I've ever heard. First off, the PODCAST that you talk about is ON the ESPN. You know... the network which has the court and the people and makes these guys famous?!?! I don't see how you think that's "off court" when it's on ESPN with a Podcast. Also when she was referring to his "high school" he has his GED. He left school early.
I've seen John Wick, I play video games. I could never hurt anyone and if I saw a dead body in real life I'd probably cry. Blaming violent media for real life violence comes from ignorance from people who don't engage with these forms of media and don't understand it. At first this annoyed me because it attacked hobbies of mine and many others that I didn't think deserved to be vilified. It annoys me now because despite the majority of studies showing that violent media has no correlation with real world violence, people would still blame a form of entertainment instead of addressing the real problem. People died. Fix your fucking gun laws.
That's what im saying man ive seen just about every classic action movie and ive played games from resident evil to skyrim all my life and I almost puked just watching that logan paul video with the forest
Ok you want to use the mentally unstable excuse but to actually fix it you need better healthcare which no one wants to touch. at least gun control is a step in a direction TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE THIS FORM HAPPENING
You said that it annoys you that people attacked hobbies you enjoy, well how do you think the millions of gun owners who have never done anything wrong with their guns feel? None of my firearms have been pointed at another human while they have been in my possession (I can’t account for the old military surplus ones), but people find out I own guns and treat me as if I was the shooter of one of these tragedies. I’ve done nothing wrong, I’ve hurt nobody, but because of my choice of hobby I am demonized and dehumanized by some people. However just the same as not all gun owners use them against all people, I don’t think it is unreasonable to say that just because violent games and movies did not affect you, that a very very very small percentage of people may be affected to the point they hurt someone else.
I listen to rap music everyday and play video games, such as COD, GTA, and Fortnite, at least 3 times a week, yet I would never in my life consider taking the life of another human being.
Hmmmm...I wonder what games an music they were into back during the dark ages when people burned neighbors alive, tortured others in public or chopped off their head while cheering along side their children?! People have always been easily manipulated an controlled through dogma and propaganda.
I strongly agree that video games are causing violence, but this is a stupid comparison and only makes people on the other side have more fuel to call people who say video games are fine stupid.
Charles Campbell video games are fine. People who kill other people because of video games were most likely mentally unstable beforehand. His comment was also not meant to be taken seriously
I like my guns but i agree that it should be a whole hell of a lot harder to get them. I also don't think taking all of them away will help either, it is not hard to get an illegal firearm. It would just be like the alcohol ban in the 20's, it will lead to people selling the guns illegally. Laws do not "protect" you, it doesn't stop murder or any other crime why would it stop guns... But like i said before gun reform is needed badly. owo
Either way is a double edged blade. If you have strict gun laws or ban them outright,access to guns is less likely but black markets would benefit and civilians cant defend themselves. If you have loose gun laws,well,you saw what happened. Either way it wont make a difference.
I come from a family of hunters and sportsfolk. I learned to shoot a gun when I was young, and I've got "mine" in a cabinet waiting for me when I get licensed. So you can guess where I stand on guns. I think anyone who passes the test and has the money should be able to use a gun. Whether for self defense (the reason I'd want one- I'm severely disabled), hunting, or sport. However there are areas where people clearly slip through the cracks. It's why I'm all for the idea of a national database with mandatory reporting of crimes and that, so that both big sellers in metropolitan areas and mom and pop stores in the boonies can have the same access to information for background checks (which should include psych evals). It would mean longer waits and more hassle, but hey, it would stop all but the most determined criminals from getting a weapon to hurt people.
The AMV TOP 50 Gun laws do. Take Scotland for example: Dunblane Primary massacre in 1996 resulted in owning any gun to be illegal in the UK - with the exception of historical ones. Wanna guess how many school shootings the UK has experienced since then? None. Same with Australia: 1996 ban; no more mass shootings. In twenty-two years no child has suffered that same fate. Although America, well I think we all know exactly how American children are suffering. Your second amendment is killing people whether you want to admit that or not.
I had a psychology teacher who compared violent media to adverts. Basically, if you have no interest in getting a car, an advert for BMW will do nothing to you. But if you're thinking about getting a car, that same advert will make you think "oh yeah maybe I'll get *that* car." There might be an argument that exposing children to violent games can make them feel like violence doesn't have consequence, but then that's why we have the ratings to say "hey don't let a young kid play this game", and why parents need to address violent behaviour as soon as it occurs. Violent media doesn't create violence from nothing.
Theres a flaw in your logic, I've played video games my entire life and violent ones at that, I watched horror and war movies as a kid. I never once though to take the life of a human nor animal because I understand the value of life as a whole. A whole butt load of gamers will say the exact same thing. I learned to respect humans even if they bullied me and treated me wrongly. It's how you are raised and how you think that determines how you value life. Theres a reason why hunting has always been such a valuable tool for teaching respect of weapons and life. Schools also taught shooting classes for decades which also taught the same respect. Us as a nation no longer respects each other which explains why people are less inclined to value the life of other humans.
Did you actually read my comment? Because that's exactly my argument. Violence is something that will be in a person already, from nature or nurture or both, and violent media (or violent anything) just enables and rewards that violence, not causing it.
Even violent children can be changed, my husband had a violence issue as a child and was put directly into anger management, he understands the value of human life, he's also a grade A sociopath yet he's the nicest guy because his mother snatched him up quick and got him the help he needed. He ended up joining the Marines and faced actual violence yet I have no fear of him doing something irrational like these children are now. He's never laid a hand on me or anyone around him. Change is possible even with violent influences around.
Oh no of course not, I'm not arguing with you, the flaw was parents needing to address violent behaviors. Thats a laughing stock of a joke in this society. What parent even parents anymore without the loving hand of ipad/iphone and savior.
I’m black and yesterday I went to see black panther with friends it was amazing, I was actually sooooo happy to see so many other races in theater. Growing up I have never really been around other races so I’ll remember that feeling forever
...Why? It's just melanin. There's nothing important or significant about it. If everyone ignored race altogether, there would be no downsides. That's how you know that race is an imaginary problem, and the best way to stop it is to stop believing in it.
Chamelonred5 I think before we can move past race as society we need need to create more opportunities for us to be together and interact as peers so more people get it through their thick skulls that at our core we're really all the same. Sure it'd be nice if we could all just decide to ignore it, but simply just ignoring it yourself hardly has an impact on others who need more convincing. Plus there can be some minor differences between races in terms of experiences (like growing up in a white vs black vs asian household for example) so it's good to talk about these things so we all just have a better understanding of each other
I grew up in a pretty white area (at least for being in California). I went to a private high school and it was like 80% white. I use to kind of worry that I was in too much of a bubble. Now I'm in college and it actually makes me happy how diverse it is. My school's like 20something % white and idk I'm just satisfied knowing that I can still be comfortable in an environment where I'm not in the majority (or even the plurality in my case)
Chameleonred5 THANK you! I thought I was the only one who understood that 'race' isn't a real thing. When will people stop feeding this beast? It's just an old cultural construct and we need to outgrow it. NOBODY is WHITE except albinos. Most humans are genetically diverse with genes from around the globe mixed together. Race is bollocks, people need to stop believing it's a real thing. Homo Sapiens Sapiens - there ARE no further scientific divisions in the HUMAN RACE. *sigh*
I always love the "kids will play mature rated games anyway" argument, literally just straight up saying "we are such bad parents that we have no control over what our children do"
I have been playing video games for the past 28 years and I haven't gone out and killed people. I have watched lots of movies that included smoking, drinking and killing and I don't do any of those either.
Thomas Signer same man, but you know why I don’t do that either? Because my parents did there job and told me the dangerous effects of alcohol and more on my health. They also regulated how much time I played certain rated m games, and they played some of these games and know the violence like mortal kombat in the 90s and they know how it looks. We are like walking proof that all these things do not have solid effects on every kid that they claim. If anything parents are to blame for not teaching there kids
WhiskeyBrewer honestly exactly.. people forget our natural curiosity to violence and hurting people sometimes people just want to hurt other people to see how it feels or for the fun of it. Sometimes it’s just that simple. Even though we are typically civilized people sometimes people act on a natural curiosity
Jordan Ross well people do have a natural curiosity but that does not explain the discrepancy between the gun violence in the USA compared to other country's
People have their boundaries. There are people who are traumatized/scared when they use a gun. Then there are people who would do it again. A gun is easier than using a knife.
Destructicon Jenkins so does India 1.324 billion and Russia 144.3 million and the population of Europe 743.1 million double of the whole of the usa, China 1.379 billion, all of these don't feel like they need assault rifles for home defence and all have less gun crimes and also all have bloodier history than the USA,
+sethvimes sorry but in Russia they have a high crime rate to compare to the US Russia gun laws civilian can own AK47 and AR15 like the US but legally handgun extremly hard to get for civilian and most homicide in the US and Russia are the same it cause by HANDGUNS. I agree with background check and mentally health check for purchase gun in New Zealand and most of the countries in Europe civilian can own Handgun, AR15 and other semi-auto rifle with normal firearm license.
Scorch428 his argument is someone killing people in a movie with digitized blood is different than seeing someone's actual brains splattered next to you
Couldn't agree more. It doesn't matter how many times you watch a person's head get blown off in a game or movie it will never prepare you for it to happen in real life.
Phil, thank you for your commitment to an unbiased look at this and many other situations that you discuss in your videos. I write this comment with tears welling up in my eyes regarding the situation regarding gun violence in this nation. I'd like to preface anything I say further with this: I am a gun owner (of a single handheld pistol), I have grown up around firearms almost my entire life (nearly 29 years), and I am comfortable using them in situations appropriate to their usage. My statements come from a place of knowledge, not of ignorance. I absolutely think that more strict firearm regulation needs to be collaborated upon and passed. It is terrifying to me how easy it is to obtain a firearm, especially in some states, my own included. When I went to purchase my pistol I was asked to fill out a "background check" form which I did, then handed back to the salesman. He retrieved his supervisor who took the sheet, looked it over for no more than 30 seconds, then approved me to purchase. I was stunned. The closest thing a "background check" I received was checking a box on the form indicating that have not been convicted of any felonies or misdemeanors. A claim that was not verified by the store. As far as I can tell, anyone could have come in and requested to purchase a firearm and walked out with one simply by claiming they had no criminal record. This is unacceptable. Further, there is no possible way I could have been vetted for mental stability and intent. Though I have no intention to ever utilize my firearm for anything other than going to the shooting range and protecting my home (I don't even want a concealed carry permit), the store had no way to verify that. I could have been anyone coming in off the street to purchase a firearm. Again, this is unacceptable. I believe that I am an exception to the general rule of firearm owners, in that, from a very young age I was taught the danger that firearms pose, as well the proper way to handle them, the proper time to use them, and the respect and fear that they deserve. From what I can tell, that is rare. I'm so thankful for my upbringing and to my parents for raising me the way they did, but the fact is that many people don't receive that same upbringing. Without proper ways to vet firearm owners and prevent certain firearms from ever entering the market these horrible things will continue to occur. That is unacceptable, and it needs to change. We need to have real conversations about it that result in real action being taken, and it needs to start now.
Good comment. Would you hand in your gun in a buyback? Most folks seem to think that "I'm OK to own a gun, but not THEM". Seems to me the only answer is to just hand all the guns over. We did it here in Australia. Nobody believed it would work but it did. The illegal guns eventually dried up. Shootings of any kind are very rare here now.
That is something that I have not actually thought about so it's hard to say for sure. I'm leaning yes to that question, but it's something I will need to seriously ponder. I look at countries like Australia and some in Europe who have done this and where it worked and that's very encouraging. I also recognize that most of these countries have a lower poverty rate and have much better social programs for their citizens than the United States has, and that is a factor. We need to have these real conversations in the US about all these factors, but with our two-party system the conversation can never even start because the moment one side attempts to start it, the other side accuses them of wanting to destroy the country. A lot of our issues here stem from that, and we need to fix that issue so that we can begin fixing the rest of it.
Poverty, under-employment, and the very low minimum wage, all in a nation with minimal welfare safety nets - yes, you raise a salient point. Those kinds of pressures - I can barely imagine what it must be like to live with those undercurrents of stress. As inspiring and fascinating as the USA can be, if I woke up a US citizen tomorrow, and not an Aussie, I would cry and try to swim home! You are right, it isn't comparing apples to apples to say it worked in one first world country so it should work in another equally well. We also have a two party system here, but it's not so delineated and brutally partisan as the USA seems to be. There's a lot of middle ground shared by the two parties - one party is more for the workers and one is more for the bosses, and that's about where it ends. It is a real head scratcher trying to see a way for things to progress over there, however as an outsider it seems to me that Donald Trump is going to have an impact - his unpredictable stances are a good thing for surprising folks and breaking down that left / right divide, at least, that's how it looks to me! Cheers.
I suppose we'll see. I hope you are right. I can't say that I haven't looked into moving to another country due to the political climate here. Thanks for joining in the conversation with me! Appreciate seeing and discussing with others on this. :)
“There is nothing stopping our kids from playing these violent video games” Yes . There is. It’s called parenting You think a 12 year old can have 350 bucks to go down and buy a console And somehow have a fake Id to buy a mature rated game Yea it’s called monitor what your children are consuming
Wes Baugher Violent video games (VVG) do not make people who play them violent. Violent video games do not have lasting desensitization of the players. Violent video games do not cause school shootings or other real-world violence. Considering at least 85,000,000 copies of Grand Theft Auto 5 (a violent video game) have sold alone, not including every violent video game on the market, and almost 15,872 murders per year, and if we assumed every murderer was a gamer who played that specific violent video game, that's 0.01867294117647059% of those gamers who murder, or a little less than 19 in 100,000 people. That's nowhere near a strong enough correlation to say video games make people violent. And that's only for the audience of 1 particular game, and only if every murderer had purchased and played just that game, not the entirety of violent video games in existence that people play. Those are the highest (and inaccurate, because it's much higher than it would be if it was the entirety of gamers who play violent video games) odds you will get for violent video games causing violence. www.ign.com/articles/2017/11/07/gta-5-has-sold-in-85-million-copies www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm . There have been many studies showing there is no lasting desensitization on those who play violent video games and no connection between violent video games and real-world violent behavior. th-cam.com/video/NxKMNGPu0Mo/w-d-xo.html theconversation.com/its-time-to-end-the-debate-about-video-games-and-violence-91607 ideas.time.com/2011/12/07/video-games-dont-make-kids-violent/ www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/health/video-games-and-violence/index.html www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180116131317.htm wccftech.com/videogames-vvg-dont-increase-aggression/ . Violent video games are not only not harmful, but also useful. There are many ways video games can improve your brain, including hand-eye coordination, spatial awareness, focus, strategic thinking, and the Nintendo Wii and virtual reality have been used to help doctors practice performing surgeries. Concepts used in video games can be used to improve the education system. Because video games improve spatial awareness and focus, people who play first-person shooters, like Call of Duty (a violent war video game), are less likely to crash their vehicle when they take a driving test and they have to avoid obstacles. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1422600/ journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.1983.57.1.155 psycnet.apa.org/record/1987-23073-001 journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1068/a41250 www.news-medical.net/news/20130822/Video-games-help-brain-to-improve-strategic-thinking.aspx th-cam.com/video/FktsFcooIG8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/MuDLw1zIc94/w-d-xo.html www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/02/27/173076773/nintendo-wii-helped-budding-surgeons-move-to-head-of-the-class psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-11858-007 . Action video games have even helped dyslexic children read better. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982213000791 . Playing video games improves your ability to learn new tasks. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982212001303 . "As far back as 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that research did not find a clear connection between violent video games and aggressive behavior. Criminologists who study mass shootings specifically refer to those sorts of connections as a “myth.” " theconversation.com/its-time-to-end-the-debate-about-video-games-and-violence-91607 www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-1448.ZS.html . Again, video games (even violent games) are not only not harmful, but also useful/helpful in numerous ways in the real world.
Goose With Da Gibus Are we watching the same video? She clearly implied he isnt a politician hes an NBA player so he shouldnt be talking about politics.
Naruto The point still stands they are American citizens, they should be allowed to talk about politics especially on the show they were on (I've never seen it so I don't know what type of show it is) regardless of whether they were NBA players, actors, doctors or even pornstars, they should be aloud to talk on it and be criticized, but they should be criticized on they points they gave on that show, not their careers they chose to follow.
Cap'n exactly. I don’t get the argument that famous people should’´t voice their opinions about politics. They don’t influence people any more than some youtubers out there who pretend to know about politics because they « debate » SJW’s. Why re those people allowed to talk?
Good Fellow also if entertainers shouldn’t be allowed to talk about politics why was Donald Trump allowed to talk about politics and run for presidency?
thats not really the reason just the excuse. its a problem of "your opinion is different than mine so shut up i dont want to hear it. you must be stupid. lalalalallala i cant hear you"
So on the 21 for a pistol 18 for a rifle thing: 1- no, it is not just a few minutes and you walk out with a rifle, it’s a few minutes to sign the papers and giving your info and payment, and then up to 14 days till you get your rifle. 2- the reason it’s 21 till you can purchase a pistol is because of concealablilty and mobility.
Here's a thing in the UK technically you could have a shotgun at 3 years old, because you needed someone that knew you for 3 years to sign your licence. Not that I think it ever happened.
Im so tired of people trying to throw the blame for violence on video games or movies. I feel that it's about how a person is raised, their environment that they're raised in, and the circumstances of how they grew up. Like growing up in a rough neighborhood. They had to learn to defend themselves to survive. You have countries who have never even heard of Mario and they have shootings just like we do. I have played video games all of my life "well most of it" and I have never once thought about shooting, hurting, or or attacking anyone ever. If you're raised to love and care for others that should never cross your mind.
I get what you mean but the movies, video games etc can give a person who's on that breaking point an idea of what to do and what kind of weapon to use. You can simulate a good way to execute your mass murder in a game like gta. I agree that it shouldn't get all the blame but it can be a factor.
I think it comes down to parents. They refuse to admit they never raised their kid properly so they look for something to blame. I realise that makes me sound like an edgy teenager but most of the people i see screaming that video games are the root of all evil are parents that dont seem to understand their own kids.
"We never had school shootings back in my day" LIES. As long as angry people have existed there have always been shootings/beatings/stabbings in school, this isn't a new issue brought on by games. In 1927 a dude bashed into a school in Bath, michigan & bombed it, killing 36. In 1966 U of Texas had a shooting resulting in 17 deaths. A quick google search says the first school shooting was somehow in the 1700's. People forget we've never changed as people. Yes games are violent but it's a fallacy to place them as the cause for violence, the problem's always been us and how we cope with things.
Its not that they dont happen its rather the frequency. Wasnt that long ago you could buy a machine gun at the local gun shop....this problem did not exist. Please read Mass Shootings and the Media Contagion Effect Jennifer Johnston, Ph.D. and Andrew Joy, BS Western New Mexico University
I think part of it is also spread of information and the notoriety that shooters think they will achieve now. We have information coming at us 24/7 now, so stuff like this is happening more and is more talked about.
Catelyn: He said they didnt have school shootings, he did not say he was a Democrat, you know the group that had slaves in America, took America to civil war over it, same Democrats with Jim Crow laws and Segregation, same Democrats who would bring back Eugenics under the flag of abortion clinics, same Democrats who would turn a helping hand into a crushing welfare system in our post Agricultural phase.
Margie: ding ding ding a Winner!!!!! You are 100% correct, the science and associated research with stats does in fact point to "fame seeking" in these contagion shooting incidents. See the following article, it also describes why we wont deal with such a simple issue. Mass Shootings and the Media Contagion Effect Jennifer Johnston, Ph.D. and Andrew Joy, BS Western New Mexico University
Politicians also blamed the Columbine shooting on id Software and DOOM. It went to court. id Software won the case. The judge ruled that it was in no part the fault of the game or it's creators. Just in case anyone forgot.
Bullying was also blamed, but it turned out that no, they were the assholes, one of them was a sociopath and his lackey was depressed and a follower. I also remember that trench coats were banned as if the Trench Coat Mafia was a real thing.
they also blamed the tec-9 and banned it because it was a pistol that looked scary. the tec-9 was a pretty garbage pistol. They banned it and fixed nothing.
Damn, those comments about LeBron from that Fox news lady were a little underhanded. Doesn't matter if they weren't racist, it was straight up mean and very clearly personally biased.
"There are video games, that yes, are listed for mature audiences, but kids play them and everybody knows it. And there is nothing to prevent the child from playing it." How about the parents take a little responsibility. An M rating game can't be sold to someone under 17, but if the parents buy it for them, then perhaps the blame should fall on them. Not that it matters. Let's be honest, as pointed out in this video, video games aren't causing this.
I agree, but he does have a point that children get M-rated games all the time. My mother bought me God of War when I was young. Granted I am so utterly docile and unlikely to kill anyone that when my mother sent me off to college she said "Get out there and live a little." So a parent might think twice before giving a more unstable kid a game like that.
The problem is that the government stepped in and took a great deal of power away from parents and now kids think they can do as they please because if their parents so much as raise their voice, they can cry abuse and CPS steps in. I understand stopping real true abuse but that should not come in the way of actual discipline. We need to be able to tell kids no and ground them without it being labeled as abuse. Hell, I've had people try to buy a candy bar for my nephews after I tell them no they can't have any. But I digress... parents need to take some responsibility and not just buy things for their kids without looking at them first. Its not like its that hard to google a game or movie and see what its about BEFORE buying it for the kids. Its also not hard to take some time to explain to younger kids the difference between a game/movie and real life. Kids are smart, they will understand if you explain things to them calmly and seriously.
Nice that they have their priorities straight I mean let's just ignore mental health, poverty, violence with in our culture or the break down of the family unit it has to be a fucking video game
lakamokolaka he was receiving mental health. I'm not siding for the gunman whatsoever but don't stigmatize mental health people. I have a lot of mental health issues and a broken family but I'm not going to go do what the gunman did.
i got high and watching both John Wick and John Wick 2 now playing COD while listening to rap music....hmmm still not homicidal , not despondent, no feelings to create mass murder...i could murder some chips though i have some crazy munchies
Appealing to authority is the most rampant fallacy when it comes to countering opinions of athletes or other entertainers. You can see how Ingraham has no interest in actually commenting or even debating Lebron's points. As long as you have a hole in your resume that people can attack, roaches like Ingraham will take it and run a marathon with it. The unfortunate thing is that they get away with it simply because people in her base or of similar argumentative skills would bare their entire argument on that very exact fallacy. The best thing you can do is ignore them because they hardly will ever have any interest in actually caring about your opinion. They are trolls given a platform.
I kinda get where the accusation of racism was coming from w the "shut up and dribble" thing. Not because she said they shouldn't speak, but bc she was going after their intelligence so hard, attacking the way they spoke and making a broad statement about how NBA players, around 75% of whom are black, are uneducated and haven't even finished high school. I was honestly getting those vibes, but then again I don't know her personal history or if that's generally the way she talks about people or even if any of those claims are at all substantiated. I mean either way...it's FOX news. Would anyone be shocked if she did turn out to be racist?
I think that speaks more to your outlook than hers. "Shut up and dribble" does not carry any connotation of race whatsoever. I could see if he wasn't a basketball player, then you may have something, but he is a basketball player. The race card is the worst scapegoat anyone can use in an argument. I know you are not saying that and just making a statement of understanding, but this is where problems come from. Race is a tool of control used by those that don't want actual issues to be discussed. People are so afraid of the truth these days, that whenever faced with the possibility that their viewpoint isn't that, regardless of political position, class, race, etc, they degrade the discussion to these subjects. It is indicative of the crumbling character of society as a whole.
Ok 1. I literally said that I don't think the "shut up and dribble" thing in itself is racist. 2. I don't understand at all your reasoning that "If he wasn't a basketball player, I could see your point"....??? If he wasn't a basketball player, this wouldn't be a discussion. If her statement on the intelligence of NBA players wasn't contextualized by her talking about an NBA player...I wouldn't even know what to say to that. That would just be strange. 3. I understand, in the current political climate, how you and others like you may be "sick of hearing about the whole race thing" and be quick to dismiss it at this point, esp when there's stuff like "this gorilla's clothes is kinda similar to mine so I'm going to take it as a personal racist attack" floating around. But that doesn't invalid my argument. It's not a crazy leap to go from "black people are stupid" to "members of this organization, which is predominantly black, are uneducated". But EVEN THAT BEING SAID, I don't think 100% that it was meant to be racially coded. 4. I really wish ppl would drop this whole "if you say something's racist, you're racist" shit. It's inane. It's like listening to adults say "I know you are but what am I"
The "barely intelligible" part is what got me. He spoke very clearly and his grammar was perfectly fine for casual speech, no worse than mine at least. African Americans are always getting shit on for how they speak, if they're using slang or AAVE or just have a "black" accent. I don't know this lady's deal, but to me it came off like she saw a black guy on screen and her own assumptions completely distorted what she actually heard, because I honestly don't even get what she found so hard to understand. And what he said wasn't even that bad, I mean if someone had said that about Obama I'd disagree but I wouldn't be OUTRAGED
This is from my reply to you: "I know you are not saying that and just making a statement of understanding, but this is where problems come from." Therefore, your first point is irrelevant. To your second point this is a direct quote from you: "...making a broad statement about how NBA players, around 75% of whom are black, are uneducated and haven't even finished high school." The implication here is that because she said these things, about a group of people whose majority is black, that it was somehow "vibing" as racism. My response was that just because the majority of the group was black, doesn't mean that any sort of racism is implied from a generalization made about that group. It would have a stronger case of having racist connotation if she said that to them and they weren't basketball players because it could be seen as being a demeaning gesture towards people who belong to a group that are largely associated with basketball. It may not be a crazy leap to go from "black people are stupid" to "members of this organization, which is predominantly black, are uneducated," but that is what a lot of people do. They do it without thought, as a knee-jerk reaction. They use it to subvert actually valuable discourse.
There's SO much wrong with what Laura Ingraham said, but let's just end this ignorance by saying: no matter how rich or famous you are, you have the freedom of speech to criticize or critique whoever is in the government. Fox News talks about how Trump has given the silenced people of America a voice, but doesn't respect other people who give a voice to other silenced people. Hypocrisy at its finest.
James Burgess I'm curious to know if she ever actually critiques WHAT was said and backs it up or just HOW it was said. Focusing on someone's speech pattern with nothing to be said about the message of the speech makes for a poor debater.
James Burgess it doesn't matter who you are, you have a right to voice your opinion about your government because they are the asshats who govern your life.
You know something I find it funny that whenever there’s these shootings or someone who did something utterly reprehensible that instead of trying to research or discuss ways on how to prevent this from happening again the first thing that seem to come to mind is for these people is on who to blame. These people will point the finger at family life (relatives), culture (tv, video games, and music), and school environment (poor education, bullying) which always end with blamers trying to punish these “causes” by harassment, encouragement of censorship, or stricter rules for these subjects but yet with these people they would rather focus making these things scapegoats than to come up with a solution.
gunfighter That's because many of these people that we hear the most from because they have the largest platform, never really have anything at stake for themselves. for example large media outlets (CNN, Fox News, MSNBC) don't care about actually producing any results. And people who vote for a living (life long politicians on both sides) only care about votes. Both use big buzz words to try to illicit an emotional response to the largest audience and as fast as possible. All this without actually committing to anything. Those people live in a bubble and don't have to deal with day to day issues that the average citizen deal with but they always drawn out the voices of regular people to try to raise their stats. It's a number game to them.
Carl Erichsen they havent banned research, the cdc wont touch that subject. We have the second amendment SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Get over it and maybe instead of blaming the tool you blame the tool wielder.
EvyT hwnejejeke No he doesn’t have a point lol. If parents let the kids play then that is solely on the parents. That’s obvious as hell. They blame video games, movies, and music because they don’t want to take the time to actually look into the problem
When I was a wee lad parading around the mushroom kingdom stomping goombas, kicking turtle shells, grabbing some floating coins, and eating magic mushroom's making me super, all I could think about was how I was going to go out in the world stomp somebody's head, steal their money and buy some drug's. God damn you video games, god damn you...
"Hit 'me with that truth. They'll reject it but still you'll know you're in the right". That brought back the memory of my family and I getting into a huge fight about racism. I focused too much on the slavery thing but the reaction I got was terrible.
Shut up and teach you're just a teacher, Shut up and clean you're just a janitor, Shut up and paint you're just an artist. America is full of people with careers that are not based on politics and our options should always count.
StarGazer kawaii don't act like you have a professional opinion when you're not in a political career or aspiring to be in it. Is Lebron running for office or working as a civil servant? Is he going into the justice system? No. Yet he seems to take himself as if he is a current candidate
hector mesta If every American is allowed to vote, every American is allowed to voice their opinions on said candidates. He simply shared his opinions.
hector mesta Donald Trump had plenty of "professional opinions" before he ever decided to run for office or any position in the government. Your argument makes zero sense because by your logic, your opinion invalidates itself
hector mesta was that sarcasm? Because it was cute. Embarrassing opinion, but cute that you tried. Everyone has a right to speak on how they feel in public or in private. Good joke of yours though.
Telling public figures to "shut up and [blank]" is fucking ridiculous. They're PEOPLE, NOT inhuman machines that have one sole function and can't do anything else.
Grace Motley her point was he doesn't know shit about politics, and people listen to him like he knows what he's saying when he's just spreading ignorance with "Trump is racist" and "Trump is divisive and doesn't care about Americans"
MegaAbomb, as a democratic country every citizen has a right to voice their opinion, and the government is elected to represent the people. The people therefore have a right to criticize the governments actions.
Also what Lebron said was clear to understand. Attacking his grammer is just like a "spelling lame" attack in written comments. The meaning of the comment could not be attacked so something else was in an effort to distract.
Our society is actually filled with people who just dont give a damn. And its effecting everyone from all walks of life and it sucks to see that. And Phil is right other countries are doing the crazy mess that we are doing on a constant basis they are confused. I am living Italy right now and I talk to them about it and they are just surprised because they dont understand at all. Its crazy.
I am in the Army. I have always been very pro 2nd amendment. I own multiple Ar-15s, hunting rifles, shotguns, handguns, and even a few muzzleloaders. But the more and more these tragic events happen and we look for a solution it makes me really question my opinions on gun control. I do not know what the right answer is and obviously I want to keep my firearms. But God damn it we need to figure out a solution and we need to figure one out NOW. That was a very powerful and emotional speech and I pray that our politicians can come to an agreed upon and effective solution soon. I know that we will never find a perfect solution and *MONSTERS* will always find a way to take the lives of innocent people but I pray we can one day find a solution that puts a dent in the problem we currently face. I joined the Army because I was an angry patriot and want to do my part to protect my country and abolish terrorism around the world and it really hurts knowing that we have just as many issues within our borders as we do outside.
I think you shouldn't be able to buy a gun until 25 because that is when the brain is fully developed. And, for regular citizens, assault riffles should be illegal.
I do agree with you wholeheartedly and will never give up my guns I was just expressing the raw emotion that tragic events like these bring to the surface. I want there to be a logical middle ground that actually starts preventing these attacks.
Study after study has proven that video games and other like media do not make people violent/sexist/racist. This argument doesn't need to keep happening after every major incident. Art reflects society, and we can't keep blaming these events on it. Really it boils down to this either video games are art, and it is protected, or they aren't. If they aren't art then neither are movies, because games are just movies without interaction, right? And books can't be art because they're just movies without pictures. So that just means that drawings are the only true art out there, so long as they depict nice, pretty, non offensive ideas, or contain Jesus. (The last part is just a stab at the fact that most of the people who preach this are WASPs) Look my heart goes out to those affected by this psychopath, no person or family should ever have to endure what has happened to them. I sincerely hope they get the help they need.
TecnicStudios that's not the point I would have fixated on but sure, video games are like books you can see. Much like the great cinnamon toast crunch, it is the taste you can see.
I play all kinds of games Gta COD battlefield doom ect I'm not violent, most gamers are not violent. Get out of here. Also really Jesus? Your really bringing in religion ha. Lol. Have you ever ever heard of west Burrough or jones town, cults are deadly and I know a lot of religious people who are extremely sexiest and religious. Also I love how the right blames video games and the left blames guns lmao find another excuse
Wait- Hold on. Out of all the idiocy on Laura Ingraham's complaints: Unintelligible? Did she even watch them talking? Does she know what unintelligible means? It means: impossible to understand. How was anything that Lebron said, literally, impossible to understand? After being specifically upset with what he said? So she did understand what he said? So it wasn't unintelligible. The only way Lebron's comments were unintelligible is if you're suffering from a head injury. Or maybe she needs to take her own advice and go back to high school.
you forgot "ungrammatical" which, admittedly is recognized as a word SHOULDN'T be. seriously she's a "journalist" and should know what word sounds BEYOND stupid. I thought it was a made-up word when I first heard it because it sounded so awkward/dumb.
I like how she complains about LeBron being "unintelligible" and "ungrammatical" when Trump barely completed a single coherent sentence on the campaign trail.
Emma Gonzalez: Please run for office when you become eligible to do so. And bring your friends. We need you to protect schools and society as a whole!! Thank you for speaking out.
It's annoying that some people think that others have the mental capacity of a 3 year olds. They don't realize that most people have enough self restraint and maturity not to be influenced by media to the extent of violence; They can easily tell the difference between it and real life. They understand that killing someone in a video game is much different than real life. In my group of peers most, if not all, of us are against violence, yet all of us like media that contains violence. Now of course we don't enjoy the games, movies, or shows because of this, but we understand that it is there for a reason and we probably wouldn't enjoy it as much if it were to lack violence (i.e FPS games, Action movies, etc.).While this isn't a universal truth that all people enjoy media with violence, and that everyone can exhibit self control and differentiate between works of fiction and real life, it seems like overkill to outright ban media that contains violence; The same could be said about literature, music, or art containing anything deemed as unwanted.
In General it seems severe mental illness might affect people and video games/media might give them that poke they need to lash out. But saying that media/videogames itself causes these events is preposterous
what I meant is that, as a whole, videogames and media aren't gonna make people violent monsters. But yes for the severely mentally ill it might, but even then its mostly not the media/games' fault, its the mental illness' fault
Oh yeah, VIDEO GAMES are desensitising. Not the continuous mass shootings that the American government does nothing about. Because the government doing nothing is not at all giving the impression that they are fine if these shootings continue. Not like other countries have access to these games but America is the only one with mass school shootings. Blame the media not directly marketed to you. Most logical option. Tey just want to blame someone who isn't them.
Can’t help but laugh at that reporter criticising LeBron James for dropping out of high school to join the NBA, then mentions how he makes $100m a year. Like, that was clearly a good decision by LeBron
And on top of the $100m a year he gets to do what he loves the most instead of working a dead-end miserable job. Everyone would drop out of high school for that deal.
TheUnseenShadaw regardless of who you think is right in the debate, having a go at James for dropping out of high school is kind of pointless when he is as successful as he is (this coming from a guy from Liverpool, England who doesn’t follow basketball and only knows him because he has a share in our local football team)
Not sure if it's the case but I think you misunderstood me, I'm in agreement with you, I just wanted to say that on top of the great salary he gets to do what he loves, so it was a truly good decision by LeBron, I wasn't trying to have a go at James. Either you misunderstood my comment or I just misunderstood your reply just now, anyway have a good day.
TheUnseenShadaw I was also agreeing with you. Just wanted to point out how we as a society can disagree and have debate without things getting personal. Hope you have a great day as well
Whenever someone blames video games for murder and violence i usually respond with "sure, because jack the ripper was constantly playing grand theft auto"
That is not a good argument, to be fair. It doesn't logically follow. "If P then Q" does not imply "if not P then not Q". For example, McDonald's causes obesity, but people were getting obese long before the first McDonald's store went up.
except theres actually a corelation between obesity growing when fast food restaurants such as mcdonalds came arround, that you dont find in video games
"nothing to prevent the child from playing them..." I'm assuming the parents either bought the game for them, are paying the light bill, own the home the game is being played in or bought the television it's being played on.
Wait... Are you saying that parents should regulate the media their kids are consuming? That... That's so insane it might just work! Quickly! Alert the media about this crazy new idea you just came up with! It will revolutionize childcare!
Thor Rocks my children would need access to a computer or console for this. And they don't. Nor would they know how to go about doing this. Because I am their mother. I know where they are and what they are doing. If they have nothing to do then they can go outside. If its too cold or raining they can draw or practice cursive. Parents don't want to take an active role in their kids lives and they let them watch themselves and this is the cause of a lot of our problems.
Blueyes0787 I'd say kids who don't need active parents would benefit from passive ones, but it all depends on the mental state of the kids and the parental ability of the parents. Other than that you're right.
We need to bring the pillory back. Every time a politician says something erroneous and obviously not fact checked or researched they get placed in the pillory in their town centre. They are after all supposed to represent the people, by lying or being disingenuous they betray the confidence of the people and so a punishment is deserved. I am held accountable for my mistakes and I don't serve the people. Maybe then we will have fewer politicians whose only aim is to line their pockets.
And you think Hillary's goal wasn't to line her pockets? All politicians are just there to line their damn pockets. Trump was put there because he wasn't one of them. It's just fun watching the politicians try to keep doing their dance with Trump in charge. He runs the country as a business, and that's fascinating to watch. At least we don't have yet another politician who will just sit in office twiddling their thumbs for 8 years.
Honestly, I always thought video games would do the opposite. They give an outlet for people to take their unorthodox desires to. You like blowing stuff up and causing chaos? Don't do it in real life, do it in a video game! But hey, that's just me.
Games are the only thing that keep me from going out and hurting people, well that and when I would get high. Yes when I was in my early 20's. I would go to shady bars and places where I could fight because I was pissed off allot of the time. Luckily I never was arrested for starting fights.
Younes I have been playing violent video games and watching violent movies since I was a kid and I own several guns, haven’t murdered anyone and never will.
Hope you're having a great day! If you notice in the description I added time codes for stories/segments on stories. In the future, I may move those to the top comment or under the first section after you click "SHOW MORE" in the description. If you like that let me know, if you don't need it great, but I wanted to try it it out since I've seen some requests.
i got an AD for usconcealcarry*net at the start of your video.... why are gun advocates advertising on your channel?
Love the time codes! I don't care much for the first story and it made it easier to see the stories I clicked this for ^-^
i'd say great idea. last time i had to go back to one of your videos and it took some time to find what i needed. Have a great day too!!!
Philip DeFranco I saw a meme of one of the “went to see black panther... shot and killed” and it had a picture of a gta character on the ground
Philip DeFranco putting it in the comments would be helpful as the ones in the description doesn’t work on mobile
The worst thing that happened to me when I went to see Black Panther is when I said “you too” after the lady at the register told me to enjoy my movie. I will think about this for the rest of my life.
Clunt Westwood I hate when stuff like that happens
Man, I do that all the time. It doesn't even bother me anymore.
Clunt Westwood I do that alot to. Haunts me
fffffUCKKK 😂😂😂
I hate doing that so much.
_"They are rated mature but there isn't anything stopping kids from playing them."_ - Yes there is. It's called parents.
If you have kids, you have a responsibility to monitor what content your kids see and play. It's really that simple. I don't get why people like this want the government (or society in general) to raise their kids for them. That's not how it works.
Cim Stores also just flat out won't sell M rated games to kids. I was in my 20's before Gamestop stopped asking for my ID whenever I bought a damn game.
Exactly! If anything, that kid was a product of less family, more government.
Parents aren't parents anymore
They just turn around and say: "don't tell me how to raise my children!" Then continue to let technology/school/government babysit for them
Welcome back to 1999 where video games are responsible for everything evil happening in the world!
Bulgarian Ghost
Lol I remember when gta 3 cause a lot of controversy
An where we had an assault weapon ban. 1994-2004. When was Columbine again?
Marilyn Manson did columbine, remember that shit?
Fortnite doesn’t make me want to go to school and double pump some people and take their loot
We have to warn Philly!! He got the facts about Logans suicide wrong and attacked him in videos. Logan faked the suicide i watched proof in 'Matty Love 2 debunks'
Blaming video games for the shooting is absolute bullshit. I sometimes play Goat Simulator and I'm still not raging goat just like I'm still not a surgeon for playing surgeon simulator.
Kazuha159 don’t forget rap music the last suspect was listening to Migos when they where committing mass murder.
i disagree partially about rap music. rap was a way to exalted your every day pain and suffering on paper. just like most music, if you take apart the love love ah love part.But nowadays , it's cool to deal drug. it's cool to be part of a gang. to be a bad boy. it's not the case everywhere for everyone but you would get the idea. In the end of the day , we still can look at one clear fact: thoses politicians are just scape goating. the glass is guilty not because half empty or half full but because there is a glass on the table.
Well, I DID want to become a farmer after playing Stardew Valley. However, the claim that videogame violence leads to real life violence have been debunked time and time again, and it always saddens me when people use it to try and further some agenda.
I whole-heartedly agree with you that video games are not to blame for the shooting but I also don’t think just because it doesn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to anybody. By that same logic, if you don’t kill someone with guns doesn’t mean other people won’t kill with guns.
I realized my mindset could be wrong, so I’m open to discussion.
Gracilda T I know I exaggerated, I'm just pissed of that politicians still won't aknowledge that guns are the problem, not video games. I think the reason people think that games and music are the problem is that those psychopaths tend to play/listen to those, but they definitely don't cause a completely normal person to go havoc. It might trigger an already 'insane' person, but won't turn someone normal into a mass murderer.
The kid shouldn't of ever been able to get a gun. He had the police come to his house 39 times in 7 years. He posted on Instagram about how he was going to kill people with his AR-15. He was cutting his wrists, he had violent outbursts and he was diagnosed with autism. He had the FBI on his ass and they failed to act. Three students, including Nicolas girlfriend went to the school administration saying they thought he was going to shoot up the school, and they failed to act. How did none of this information come up when he tried to buy a gun? This is ridiculous.
Because of the FBI and the police, he was never listed as a danger. You'd think 39 times would land him in jail once, and listed.
Because the anti-gun criminals in the system want these thugs to do the school shootings so the anti-gun movement can use them to push for eventual gun bans in the name of "public safety". Anyone with logic can see the obvious...
Damon Morales
No, no. There are a select few of us who despise Phil, so we come here to fight him with facts.
Phil is so biased it’s not even funny. Lol
Liberty and Justice I honestly cannot tell if you’re joking or not. Please tell me you are...
Christopher, if you did not know there's an anti-gun movement in this country who will do things to further push their agenda, I'm sorry you're so gullible and clueless. To each their own...
And if the FBI is genuinely THAT incompetent to not catch this shooter after seeing all of those signs beforehand, then you should really start praying right now. We're doomed if this is how the "top" law enforcement agency conducts its business today. I don't think they're that genuinely incompetent though. There's another reason why they let it go. Wake up.
Yeah GTA was a big issue in the mongol empire. Ghangis used to play like 30 hours a week, then he'd go off and behead an entire town. video games are disgusting. Did you know that Alexander the Great invented the first video game before marching his armies across Europe? That's why kids should play less violent things. Like Football, or Hockey. Good clean wholesome games. No violence involved!
And none of those people had guns either.
@Azathoth43 thats why ww1/ww2 has such a high kill count in comparison
Ho Chi Minh actually invented Call of Duty, if you didn't know. But it was before he tortured and oppressed the Vietnamese people.
Azathoth43 That comment is so incredibly tone deaf. Nobody is saying that having a gun makes you a violent person. Nobody EVER said that. But having a violent person be able to just go to a store and buy an automatic rifle basically without any hurdles is ridiculous.
+Don Korb yah, its so ridiculus its actually illegal and has been for over 20 years.
its almost like you have no idea what you're talking about or something.
How is playing a video game the same thing as a solider going to war? To me that is a slap in the face to veterans and downplaying the horrible shit they have gone through.
Walnutter real war is boring; and halfway through, your girlfriend back home cheats on you...
+Blarghfyerjkhhh great
"It is a very odd sort of patriot that would destroy the First Amendment to protect the Second." www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/12/24
the gun control cycle
-tragedy strikes
-people talk about the topic
-nothing happens
I'd add 'People blame 1 thing depending on what party they are apart of' in there myself.
nintendowonder probs cause guns aren't to blame
alright i need an explanation. How can guns not be the problem if it is the weapon of choice for these types of attacks? I get that other weapons such as knives and stuff can do similar but it can't deal nearly as much havoc as a gun could. Whether the person is mental or not shouldn't be the scapegoat for guns being a-ok. And since we can't fix the mental people holding the gun why not just make it harder for the mental people to get the gun in the first place? It would be a compromise for the responsible gun owners at least rather than banning them altogether which we know is impossible at this stage. There's also the issue of the black market but no matter what we do we can't really deal with that type of stuff immediately. We should at least change something because blaming gun massacres on people isn't really doing much at all except stalling until the next shooting
nintendowonder the boston bombing no guns were involved same in the Oklahoma bombing. The deaths in 9/11 were cause by a plane. I know plenty of people who own guns and have never shot anyone. There are also tons of people behind bars for killing mass amonts of people without a gun. Clearly it is a mental issue and not a weapon issue
So how do we go about fixing the mental issue then?
Any politician that blames video games, music, movies, or other media for violence despite the mountains of evidence showing them that they are wrong needs to be fired and barred from ever taking and form of politics for life.
“There’s nothing stopping these kids from playing them”... what about their parents?
And how the ESRB rating system prevents violent games from being sold to children under 18, without parents permission.
Many parents these days are still children themselves, in mind if not in body, and rely upon the state to support them and their kids. Gone is the day of the stable and balanced nuclear family. It is now the day of state dependency, glorification of mental instability and toting your lack of personal responsibility for your own actions about like it's some kind of twisted virtue to be 'oppressed' giving you free license to oppress others. Then someone gets shot and everyone is in a tizzy to pass the blame onto anything it'll stick to meanwhile the shooter gets 3 hots and a cot on the public's dime for years and all the media attention they could ever want.
Most parents still let their kids have the games. Most kids these days act like adults themselves! Parents should be more aware.
If parents did their job we wouldn't have school shooters.
James Burgess Any kid with their hands on a credit card or one of those Visa gift cards can buy a game online.
Humans have always been surrounded by death in the things they watch. Romans had Gladiator fights, other times in history executions were public events that people watched for fun. Honestly watching fake deaths in movies and games sounds like an improvement.
Brynley Louise or in books there's death, but there's nobody complaining that books influenced this shooter.
Sides it's not like playing war games automatically make you good at shooting. I remember this one guy saying Watch Dogs teaching kids to be hacker. Yea, sure, pushing controller buttons in a bad game makes you an expert in IT apparently.
Cheyenne Hayden Yeah that's true
Never heard this point of view. Really cool way to look at it
No a very strong argument. Easily countered with , "you should strive for better".
Politicians that blame video games for people killing people should be forced to answer which video game caused world war 1 and 2.
John Smith Call of duty
Hearts of Iron 4
The debate of Which Person girl is Best Girl. That's what caused WW2 because Hitler only played Persona 2.
Playing video games actually make me NOT ever want to kill anyone in real life. I can see the consequences of such fatal actions, and playing video games just strengthens that stance.
Jo King i dunno, i played a round of mario and felt like taking to the streets and hit some people with a bat
Mr.Fuggetaboutit you, my friend, need to seek help urgently
Just watched an interesting theory about Logan by 'Matty Love 2 debunks'. He proves Logan faked the suicide with an actor using the police reports
Most adults are also able to separate reality from function. Unfortunately, the people making these calls are insane and immature, as they all seem to agree that they can't separst the difference between fiction and real life, and that they have no self control.
Suna Akuma its a joke chill out
Yes blame video games, it is not like people in every other modern country also play them but somehow they don't seem to have school shootings or anything like that.
Former Navy. I have seen violence and death. You are not DEsensitized by killing but given a great gift called PTSD. I have spent several years in therapy so far. I still wake up kicking and screaming. Seeing death is not desensitizing the kids, It is a good outlet for feelings. Just like music.
Thank you, the problem us the people arguing against the games have most likely never spent more than a minute playing or watching a game, and most likely never killed.
As someone who plays games I can say i still cringe at gore in movies, so I can't even begin to imagine the real thing.
Thank you for your service, Kait. And I feel the same as Khalid. I'm desensitized because violence has been glorified in the media so much lately, like reality tv. Got a gun? Be famous for two weeks... more if you're a good shot or have lots of ammo. It's disgusting.
I was the only white guy in the theatre on opening day when I saw black panther (in Canada) and nobody said anything, not a problem unless you make it one. Stop being racist because a movie is told from a black point of view. I also might add I love the movie and thought it was very well executed and made you think.
Jambr0 damn that’s amazing. My friend and I were among one of the only black people watching the movie when we went. It was in Canada but It wasn’t opening day tho.
The whole "No White ppl should see the movie" seems like something that was severely exaggerated and mostly spread through bs stories like Phil mentioned. I live in a mostly Black neighborhood, nobody cares if White people see a movie or not.
I'd wager that the black community would prefer white people support a black director making a film that largely revolves around a black dominated cast vs assault them for supporting it...
Made you think about what?
Yes no black person, as far as I can tell, cares if a white person see black panther
Ever since I started playing The Sims I can't stop stealing pool ladders from my local public pool
I know right? After playing the Sims I can stop pausing time and materializing walls out of the Ether.
I can't stop burning kitchens. ):
My problems with Laura's counter-argument:
1) It attacks her opponent instead of dissecting his argument. Even if she were right about LeBron as a person, what he said would still stand, because she didn't confront it.
2) It assumes that people from a certain background (in this case educational, professional and maybe financial) are ignorant/ incapable of critical thinking, which is objectively false.
3) Even if she COULD prove LeBron's ignorance, her argument assumes that a person's ignorance automatically renders anything they say false, which is illogical. What if he said something she agreed with? Would that make both of them wrong? No, even ignorant people can be right sometimes, and their ignorance (which in this case hasn't even been proven) doesn't excuse her from examining their argument.
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Thanks for wording it so well. She made me so angry!
Good Fellow if she kept her know-it-all mouth shut she wouldn't have shown her ignorance on live television and neither would she embarrass herself as much as she did. I'm glad she got all the backlash, though. Deserved it.
If you are on tv as a person from a newschannel discrediting somebody's arguments, you DO have to back it up with facts. It's a news channel not the view. They are not on MTV, they are not a gossip channel. If they do not dissect the arguments, why do they exist? If the only thing you need to do is look at somebody's point of view and say "shut up i dont agree with you so you should stick with whatever it is you do" then they should just shut down because everyone can do the same without this channel.
Good Fellow
To your first point: I agree. His argument does, in my opinion, have its flaws, which have been highlighted before. My problem comes from the fact that she did not point this out, choosing instead to comment on LeBron himself. And since, as you said, it has been dissected numerous times, it should have been easy for her to debunk what he said.
To your second point: what you said is true, but we cannot dismiss a person's argument until his inability to think critically has been proven, as opposed to merely assumed.
To your third point: If there was no argument worth dissecting, then what was the point of commenting at all? Was she simply there to assault his character? If so, then that's kind of a jerk move, and beneath her as a reporter. If LeBron was wrong, I think she should have proved him wrong instead of telling him to shut up. Because I can get behind logically pointing out the flaws in an argument, but I can't get behind someone being told to shut up.
back in the 50's and 60's it was comics that was blamed for all the violence and youth crimes, in the 70's it was rock and roll that got the blamed. in the 80's it was horror flicks, video games and rock music, every decade they pick a scape goat
As a wise person once said, “Shutup and read the teleprompter.”
Ben Cosmos lmao
Implying thats not exactly what she did....
Was she mega-edited or what? She teleported all over the place.
The two sportsmen who that dumb woman reported as being ungrammatical and barely intelligible were perfectly understood by me, a white guy sitting k England. Was she merely stupid or misleading the public with fake news?
Who said that?
The big question is- why should I listen to someone in the media who won't let someone else have a voice? I would never have heard that whole spiel had you not showed it, I would have turned the channel after hearing the first hint of shut-down. I don't care which side of politics people take, when they start disputing people's right to share their opinion instead of the facts/content, they lose me.
lemonadecupcakes THIS. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The answer is simple, Basketball players are rarely know for their intelligence or argumentative skills, News anchors are sometimes known for their intelligence and usually their argumentative talents. Lebron can puff himself up all he wan't but at the end of the day he is just another overpaid idiot celebrity that thinks we should care about what they think.
Really, How she is trying to silence him? He spoke first, she reacted to his speech. And any person with basic education knows that "Shut up and do ..." translates to "I don't want to hear you, go and do your job.". We can discuss if she has been hypocritical here, but you need to recognize the problem here. We are giving the microphone to celebrities using emotions to influence the people and not to the people who spend time researching and studding the problems. This is pure form of propaganda and manipulation.
People, stop falling victim of 'Argument from authority' logical fallacy. "Don't be useful idiot."
Did I "kidnapped" you "at gunpoint and forced" you to read what I wrote? And yet you find your self 'compelled'' to 'educate' me. He (LeBron) has an opinion, she has an opinion about his opinion. I have an opinion about their opinions and you have an opinion about my opinion. As long she (Laura) has no power of preventing him (LaBron) from speaking, her statement "Shut up..." translates to 'I don't want to hear it." and certainly it is her right not to listen and to announce her refusal to listen. (It might not be smart, but this is different subject entirely.)
Yes, Trump is quite skillful at that. Also he is very good at getting credit for job done by other people.
I'm a 43 year old female streamer/gamer, I play many games, including shoot um ups and not once have I ever thought of getting a real gun and shooting it off at anyone or anything in all my years of gaming.
Exactly, it also does the very opposite effect to me. I find games to be stress relievers (unless im grinding for that one event in a rhythm game)
I've played horror games, first person shooter games, rhythm games, and like four GTAs (i think we all know what gta is about lol) and a lot of other stuff I don't remember. And never have I ever wanted to legit bring a gun and shoot people because of these games.
Are you for real 43 old gamer?
Professional self plug right there.
Is that really such a bad thing? These days, people around that age grew up with videogames. Some have been playing games since they were 10/15 years old and are in their 40s now. Do you plan to stop gaming once you hit, say 25, because after that you're too old? Nahhh :) if you enjoy gaming, you'll keep gaming until you can't game anymore XD age has no restriction on this.
"It is a very odd sort of patriot that would destroy the First Amendment to protect the Second." photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dXBjSvG/0/2100x20000/i-dXBjSvG-2100x20000.jpg
As a combat veteran that grew up on all the controversial violent video games (Doom, Mortal Kombat, CoD, etc..), trust me, they don't help you pull the trigger. When you're staring at the possibility of losing your humanity and actually killing another human being that might have been a good friend in another life, they don't help or influence real world violence.
Haha, basketball players can't have political opinions. What could they possibly contribute, as a citizen living in the same country as you? It's not like the politics of their country affects them or anything.
Pretty sure the media does more to encourage violence than video games. As for Laura, I don't think she was being racist, but she was certainly being dismissive to pander to her fans and conservatives.
Ryan Hancock But it's a serious accusation to make. Racist? Because she also voiced her opinion? It shuts down debate. Personally, I have more respect for Laura because of her experience and knowledge as opposed to two athletes who make a hell of a lot of money playing a sport I have no interest in...and are comparing our country to a basketball team. Their only comparison is from basketball? Try reading a book once in awhile. Otherwise, I have no interest in listening to those two cursing and insulting the president.
J R I fully understand your point, and agree. I don't think anyone should ever get their politics from celebs/sportsmins, but didn't go deep on the subject, just the surface issue.
I forget who said it but theres a quote that goes something like "after sandyhook when no laws were enacted I knew nothing would ever change. If a school full of 6 year olds can get gunned down and nothing happens than there is no line"
No but sometimes people get so sick and tired and decide to draw the line themselves
Sandy Hook happened with stolen guns. If they changed the gun laws after Sandy Hook, it'd be like putting a band-aid on your arm to fix your broken leg.
Pretty much
Instead of bitching, why not up security at schools? That seems like the least controversial thing you could do in the meantime
EMAN00619 I say the same thing the only way thing could chanhe is if toodles dies and not anybody toddles, toddles with rich and powerful parents. It's sad and I hope this never....
Dan Hodges, a British journalist, "In retrospect, Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over."
Everytime I hear that video games are a cause of violence, I like to remind them that before video games violence was still a thing in the world.
Actually violet crime peaked in the '70s and '80s when video games first became a universally accessible activity, it then plummeted as it began to really proliferate in the 90s, 00s, and '10s. These are the same group of people whose factions have called D&D, Pokemon, and Harry Potter "Satanic."
jatocato I could add that these same games and movies are also available all over the world and they do not have the same problems in those countries even where guns are just as available.
And that was Religion?
The same people that also say that Books are the devil as well.
It was worse for the most part actually.
I tried to go see Black Panther yesterday but this big black man was standing outside the theaters and he said "no White people allowed here, I have the high ground" and then he used a light saber to cut off all four of my limbs. Unbelievable!
He underestimated your power
Honestly, Lebron was incredibly civil and handled himself way better than her.
People telling Lebron James and Kevin Durant to "shut up and dribble" and express their opinions off the court need to understand that they took their opinions off the court. They didn't just stop a game, grab some microphones and say all of this.
They said it during a PODCAST, that was where their opinions are welcomed to keep the conversation going. They have the right to express their thoughts they're not just basketball players, they're people with feelings and opinions. Just like the Fox News lady.
Man, Fox is one of the most hypocritical things I've ever seen.
Edit: didn't know this comment got so many likes so I just wanted to fix some *_UngRaMmATical_* errors
She doesn't literally mean to "shut up" as in assuming he has no literal right to speak. Please get some intellectual honesty here. When someone says "Oh shut up!" in a debate, they're not telling the person that they have no literal right to speak. They're basically saying "You're so clueless on this topic, please, for your sake and my sanity, go somewhere else and stop talking?"
It's a jab back at LeBron for saying Trump talking is laughable.
Huge difference in context here.
Viper 47 ^^^ THIS ^^^
shut up (or shut someone up)
phrasal verb of shut
1.
informal
stop (or cause someone to stop) talking.
"just shut up and listen"
synonyms: be quiet, keep/stay quiet, be/keep/stay silent, hold one's tongue, keep one's lips sealed;
Your basically saying what the other person is saying makes no intellectual sense because you cant fathom or dont want to attempt to fathom what they are talking about. While its not explicitly saying you have no right to speak, the term shut up is an ad hominem attack which makes you both unintelligent, and a snowflake. It also makes her completely unprofessional since she styles herself as being a journalist.
Also
Chuck Norris was never on Fox. Chuck Norris is multidimensional. Fox just happened to be in the same spacetime continuum as he wasXD
Liberty and Justice Who in a debate would ever say 'Oh shut up' though? It's just so immature, no? I think that would immediately disqualify anything you have to say after that. It's rude to the other person who has expressed their opinion in an open, respectful way to 'debate' you. That's exactly what she did disqualified, she herself and looked like a fool. Especially when she took an uninformed shot at his education when he did in fact complete highschool.
"or express their opinions on off court need to understand the latter is exactly what they did" - The dumbest thing I've ever heard. First off, the PODCAST that you talk about is ON the ESPN. You know... the network which has the court and the people and makes these guys famous?!?! I don't see how you think that's "off court" when it's on ESPN with a Podcast. Also when she was referring to his "high school" he has his GED. He left school early.
I've seen John Wick, I play video games. I could never hurt anyone and if I saw a dead body in real life I'd probably cry. Blaming violent media for real life violence comes from ignorance from people who don't engage with these forms of media and don't understand it. At first this annoyed me because it attacked hobbies of mine and many others that I didn't think deserved to be vilified. It annoys me now because despite the majority of studies showing that violent media has no correlation with real world violence, people would still blame a form of entertainment instead of addressing the real problem. People died. Fix your fucking gun laws.
You’re not mentally unstable.
That's what im saying man ive seen just about every classic action movie and ive played games from resident evil to skyrim all my life and I almost puked just watching that logan paul video with the forest
Ok you want to use the mentally unstable excuse but to actually fix it you need better healthcare which no one wants to touch. at least gun control is a step in a direction TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE THIS FORM HAPPENING
F Clarke many many people are mentally unstable, consume the same media and don't have a violent bone in their body.
You said that it annoys you that people attacked hobbies you enjoy, well how do you think the millions of gun owners who have never done anything wrong with their guns feel? None of my firearms have been pointed at another human while they have been in my possession (I can’t account for the old military surplus ones), but people find out I own guns and treat me as if I was the shooter of one of these tragedies. I’ve done nothing wrong, I’ve hurt nobody, but because of my choice of hobby I am demonized and dehumanized by some people.
However just the same as not all gun owners use them against all people, I don’t think it is unreasonable to say that just because violent games and movies did not affect you, that a very very very small percentage of people may be affected to the point they hurt someone else.
I listen to rap music everyday and play video games, such as COD, GTA, and Fortnite, at least 3 times a week, yet I would never in my life consider taking the life of another human being.
Jada Johnson you play OW?
I wonder what games Hitler played. 🤔
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Same here
Hmmmm...I wonder what games an music they were into back during the dark ages when people burned neighbors alive, tortured others in public or chopped off their head while cheering along side their children?! People have always been easily manipulated an controlled through dogma and propaganda.
Jinx Jasper probably played shovel knight and listened to country music
There are people, who actually think/believe that there were no murder, rape or any big crimes in our society in the past.
"People" You must mean Sheeple or the Mentally Retarded right? For a real Person can and should look up real history!
They where probably listening to northern soul - that always makes me want to cut someone's head off and fry it in battery acid.
Jinx Jasper People used to take their kids to public executions where they would try to get souvenirs from the executed such as their blood.
I played Sim City, I guess I can be Mayor, architect, Banker, policeman, God...what have you.
I strongly agree that video games are causing violence, but this is a stupid comparison and only makes people on the other side have more fuel to call people who say video games are fine stupid.
Charles Campbell video games are fine. People who kill other people because of video games were most likely mentally unstable beforehand. His comment was also not meant to be taken seriously
Charles Campbell he wasn't even being serious with his comment
Rishabh Kumar i play world of warcraft...fear me as i summon demonic minons and candy to incress my health :p
I'm a master chef since I play cooking mama. I obviously go out hurting animals since I play pokemon. (That's a joke)
The fact that Phil put timestamps right in the description makes me love him so much more. Suck it clickbait shamers!
I like my guns but i agree that it should be a whole hell of a lot harder to get them. I also don't think taking all of them away will help either, it is not hard to get an illegal firearm. It would just be like the alcohol ban in the 20's, it will lead to people selling the guns illegally. Laws do not "protect" you, it doesn't stop murder or any other crime why would it stop guns... But like i said before gun reform is needed badly. owo
Either way is a double edged blade. If you have strict gun laws or ban them outright,access to guns is less likely but black markets would benefit and civilians cant defend themselves. If you have loose gun laws,well,you saw what happened. Either way it wont make a difference.
I come from a family of hunters and sportsfolk. I learned to shoot a gun when I was young, and I've got "mine" in a cabinet waiting for me when I get licensed. So you can guess where I stand on guns. I think anyone who passes the test and has the money should be able to use a gun. Whether for self defense (the reason I'd want one- I'm severely disabled), hunting, or sport.
However there are areas where people clearly slip through the cracks. It's why I'm all for the idea of a national database with mandatory reporting of crimes and that, so that both big sellers in metropolitan areas and mom and pop stores in the boonies can have the same access to information for background checks (which should include psych evals). It would mean longer waits and more hassle, but hey, it would stop all but the most determined criminals from getting a weapon to hurt people.
I think everything should be at age 25, when the brain is done developing at least. This is getting ridiculous.
The AMV TOP 50 Gun laws do. Take Scotland for example: Dunblane Primary massacre in 1996 resulted in owning any gun to be illegal in the UK - with the exception of historical ones.
Wanna guess how many school shootings the UK has experienced since then? None. Same with Australia: 1996 ban; no more mass shootings. In twenty-two years no child has suffered that same fate. Although America, well I think we all know exactly how American children are suffering. Your second amendment is killing people whether you want to admit that or not.
DuckyDae X they were being sarcastic
"theres nothing to prevent the kids from playing them (M rated games)" How about... THERE PARENTS!!!!
Nah too easy.
yeah but that makes to much sense
Cody Mavick their*
Why don't they blame movies like Saw?
Cody Mavick I used to try not to sell M rated games to parents who I knew were buying it for their kids. No 50 year old mother is playing CoD lol
THAT SECOND PICTURE OF BLOODIED PEOPLE WAS JENSEN ACKLES IN MAKEUP FOR SUPERNATURAL IM LAUGHING
I can'T BREATHE
timestamp?
i didn't see it, looked everywhere
5:35
That is what I thought when it first popped up on the screen, "that dude looks like the supernatural guy"
I WAS SCREAMING
I had a psychology teacher who compared violent media to adverts.
Basically, if you have no interest in getting a car, an advert for BMW will do nothing to you. But if you're thinking about getting a car, that same advert will make you think "oh yeah maybe I'll get *that* car."
There might be an argument that exposing children to violent games can make them feel like violence doesn't have consequence, but then that's why we have the ratings to say "hey don't let a young kid play this game", and why parents need to address violent behaviour as soon as it occurs. Violent media doesn't create violence from nothing.
Theres a flaw in your logic, I've played video games my entire life and violent ones at that, I watched horror and war movies as a kid. I never once though to take the life of a human nor animal because I understand the value of life as a whole. A whole butt load of gamers will say the exact same thing. I learned to respect humans even if they bullied me and treated me wrongly. It's how you are raised and how you think that determines how you value life. Theres a reason why hunting has always been such a valuable tool for teaching respect of weapons and life. Schools also taught shooting classes for decades which also taught the same respect. Us as a nation no longer respects each other which explains why people are less inclined to value the life of other humans.
Did you actually read my comment? Because that's exactly my argument. Violence is something that will be in a person already, from nature or nurture or both, and violent media (or violent anything) just enables and rewards that violence, not causing it.
Even violent children can be changed, my husband had a violence issue as a child and was put directly into anger management, he understands the value of human life, he's also a grade A sociopath yet he's the nicest guy because his mother snatched him up quick and got him the help he needed. He ended up joining the Marines and faced actual violence yet I have no fear of him doing something irrational like these children are now. He's never laid a hand on me or anyone around him. Change is possible even with violent influences around.
Never said change wasn't possible, the topic was the ORIGIN of violence, and the origin is NOT violent media.
Oh no of course not, I'm not arguing with you, the flaw was parents needing to address violent behaviors. Thats a laughing stock of a joke in this society. What parent even parents anymore without the loving hand of ipad/iphone and savior.
I’m black and yesterday I went to see black panther with friends it was amazing, I was actually sooooo happy to see so many other races in theater. Growing up I have never really been around other races so I’ll remember that feeling forever
...Why? It's just melanin. There's nothing important or significant about it. If everyone ignored race altogether, there would be no downsides. That's how you know that race is an imaginary problem, and the best way to stop it is to stop believing in it.
Chamelonred5 I think before we can move past race as society we need need to create more opportunities for us to be together and interact as peers so more people get it through their thick skulls that at our core we're really all the same. Sure it'd be nice if we could all just decide to ignore it, but simply just ignoring it yourself hardly has an impact on others who need more convincing. Plus there can be some minor differences between races in terms of experiences (like growing up in a white vs black vs asian household for example) so it's good to talk about these things so we all just have a better understanding of each other
I grew up in a pretty white area (at least for being in California). I went to a private high school and it was like 80% white. I use to kind of worry that I was in too much of a bubble. Now I'm in college and it actually makes me happy how diverse it is. My school's like 20something % white and idk I'm just satisfied knowing that I can still be comfortable in an environment where I'm not in the majority (or even the plurality in my case)
Chameleonred5 THANK you! I thought I was the only one who understood that 'race' isn't a real thing. When will people stop feeding this beast? It's just an old cultural construct and we need to outgrow it. NOBODY is WHITE except albinos. Most humans are genetically diverse with genes from around the globe mixed together. Race is bollocks, people need to stop believing it's a real thing. Homo Sapiens Sapiens - there ARE no further scientific divisions in the HUMAN RACE. *sigh*
"They bloodied up my face"
*Shows picture of Dean Winchester*
omg i know i couldnt stop laughing
Faith Taylor Did a double take, wtf
I litterally was like "The fuck is that dean from supernatural?"
I saw that and thought it was a shitty meme at first lol
I always love the "kids will play mature rated games anyway" argument, literally just straight up saying "we are such bad parents that we have no control over what our children do"
did Hitler play call of duty, did Stalin watch John wick, did the Mongols play battlefield before war, no they fucking didn't.
Yeah but how many of *them* shot up schools? Checkmate, atheists.
FuriousGorge none. But they've killed almost a combined billion people. Checkmate Atheists
Maybe if Stalin had an outlet for his violence like COD he wouldn't have been as bad lol
Declan Copland your wrong!!! I'm still trying to break blocks with my head and I have had 32,000 concussions #blamesupermario
I enjoy the fact there's no counter argument to this, so people just post memes in the replies
I have been playing video games for the past 28 years and I haven't gone out and killed people. I have watched lots of movies that included smoking, drinking and killing and I don't do any of those either.
Thomas Signer same man, but you know why I don’t do that either? Because my parents did there job and told me the dangerous effects of alcohol and more on my health. They also regulated how much time I played certain rated m games, and they played some of these games and know the violence like mortal kombat in the 90s and they know how it looks. We are like walking proof that all these things do not have solid effects on every kid that they claim. If anything parents are to blame for not teaching there kids
Blaming everything but people
WhiskeyBrewer honestly exactly.. people forget our natural curiosity to violence and hurting people sometimes people just want to hurt other people to see how it feels or for the fun of it. Sometimes it’s just that simple. Even though we are typically civilized people sometimes people act on a natural curiosity
Jordan Ross well people do have a natural curiosity but that does not explain the discrepancy between the gun violence in the USA compared to other country's
People have their boundaries.
There are people who are traumatized/scared when they use a gun.
Then there are people who would do it again.
A gun is easier than using a knife.
Destructicon Jenkins so does India 1.324 billion and Russia 144.3 million and the population of Europe 743.1 million double of the whole of the usa, China 1.379 billion, all of these don't feel like they need assault rifles for home defence and all have less gun crimes and also all have bloodier history than the USA,
+sethvimes sorry but in Russia they have a high crime rate to compare to the US
Russia gun laws civilian can own AK47 and AR15 like the US but legally handgun extremly hard to get for civilian and most homicide in the US and Russia are the same it cause by HANDGUNS.
I agree with background check and mentally health check for purchase gun in New Zealand and most of the countries in Europe civilian can own Handgun, AR15 and other semi-auto rifle with normal firearm license.
i could watch john wick on repeat for a week straight. that will not desensitize me to someone actually getting their head blown off
also john wick's dope, don't take the treasure that is keanu reaves from me
So because John Wick did not desensitize YOU to violence, it will not desensitize ANYONE to violence.
Is that your argument?
Scorch428 you saying the same reply to every comment defending movies and videogames. Is that your ArGUm3nT ?!!
Scorch428 his argument is someone killing people in a movie with digitized blood is different than seeing someone's actual brains splattered next to you
Couldn't agree more. It doesn't matter how many times you watch a person's head get blown off in a game or movie it will never prepare you for it to happen in real life.
Lmao I think for that response, Laura should just "shut up and report."
Literally.
Good Fellow you don’t see the irony here?
Athletes should play.
Actors should act.
They couldn’t help Hillary win. And they will just help get Trump re-elected.
makes no sense seeing as how reporting involves talking.
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Phil, thank you for your commitment to an unbiased look at this and many other situations that you discuss in your videos. I write this comment with tears welling up in my eyes regarding the situation regarding gun violence in this nation.
I'd like to preface anything I say further with this: I am a gun owner (of a single handheld pistol), I have grown up around firearms almost my entire life (nearly 29 years), and I am comfortable using them in situations appropriate to their usage. My statements come from a place of knowledge, not of ignorance.
I absolutely think that more strict firearm regulation needs to be collaborated upon and passed. It is terrifying to me how easy it is to obtain a firearm, especially in some states, my own included. When I went to purchase my pistol I was asked to fill out a "background check" form which I did, then handed back to the salesman. He retrieved his supervisor who took the sheet, looked it over for no more than 30 seconds, then approved me to purchase. I was stunned. The closest thing a "background check" I received was checking a box on the form indicating that have not been convicted of any felonies or misdemeanors. A claim that was not verified by the store. As far as I can tell, anyone could have come in and requested to purchase a firearm and walked out with one simply by claiming they had no criminal record. This is unacceptable.
Further, there is no possible way I could have been vetted for mental stability and intent. Though I have no intention to ever utilize my firearm for anything other than going to the shooting range and protecting my home (I don't even want a concealed carry permit), the store had no way to verify that. I could have been anyone coming in off the street to purchase a firearm. Again, this is unacceptable.
I believe that I am an exception to the general rule of firearm owners, in that, from a very young age I was taught the danger that firearms pose, as well the proper way to handle them, the proper time to use them, and the respect and fear that they deserve. From what I can tell, that is rare.
I'm so thankful for my upbringing and to my parents for raising me the way they did, but the fact is that many people don't receive that same upbringing. Without proper ways to vet firearm owners and prevent certain firearms from ever entering the market these horrible things will continue to occur. That is unacceptable, and it needs to change. We need to have real conversations about it that result in real action being taken, and it needs to start now.
Good comment. Would you hand in your gun in a buyback? Most folks seem to think that "I'm OK to own a gun, but not THEM". Seems to me the only answer is to just hand all the guns over. We did it here in Australia. Nobody believed it would work but it did. The illegal guns eventually dried up. Shootings of any kind are very rare here now.
That is something that I have not actually thought about so it's hard to say for sure. I'm leaning yes to that question, but it's something I will need to seriously ponder.
I look at countries like Australia and some in Europe who have done this and where it worked and that's very encouraging. I also recognize that most of these countries have a lower poverty rate and have much better social programs for their citizens than the United States has, and that is a factor. We need to have these real conversations in the US about all these factors, but with our two-party system the conversation can never even start because the moment one side attempts to start it, the other side accuses them of wanting to destroy the country.
A lot of our issues here stem from that, and we need to fix that issue so that we can begin fixing the rest of it.
Poverty, under-employment, and the very low minimum wage, all in a nation with minimal welfare safety nets - yes, you raise a salient point. Those kinds of pressures - I can barely imagine what it must be like to live with those undercurrents of stress. As inspiring and fascinating as the USA can be, if I woke up a US citizen tomorrow, and not an Aussie, I would cry and try to swim home! You are right, it isn't comparing apples to apples to say it worked in one first world country so it should work in another equally well.
We also have a two party system here, but it's not so delineated and brutally partisan as the USA seems to be. There's a lot of middle ground shared by the two parties - one party is more for the workers and one is more for the bosses, and that's about where it ends. It is a real head scratcher trying to see a way for things to progress over there, however as an outsider it seems to me that Donald Trump is going to have an impact - his unpredictable stances are a good thing for surprising folks and breaking down that left / right divide, at least, that's how it looks to me! Cheers.
I suppose we'll see. I hope you are right. I can't say that I haven't looked into moving to another country due to the political climate here. Thanks for joining in the conversation with me! Appreciate seeing and discussing with others on this. :)
“There is nothing stopping our kids from playing these violent video games”
Yes .
There is.
It’s called parenting
You think a 12 year old can have 350 bucks to go down and buy a console
And somehow have a fake Id to buy a mature rated game
Yea it’s called monitor what your children are consuming
Wes Baugher thank u good sir
Wes Baugher
Violent video games (VVG) do not make people who play them violent. Violent video games do not have lasting desensitization of the players. Violent video games do not cause school shootings or other real-world violence.
Considering at least 85,000,000 copies of Grand Theft Auto 5 (a violent video game) have sold alone, not including every violent video game on the market, and almost 15,872 murders per year, and if we assumed every murderer was a gamer who played that specific violent video game, that's 0.01867294117647059% of those gamers who murder, or a little less than 19 in 100,000 people. That's nowhere near a strong enough correlation to say video games make people violent. And that's only for the audience of 1 particular game, and only if every murderer had purchased and played just that game, not the entirety of violent video games in existence that people play. Those are the highest (and inaccurate, because it's much higher than it would be if it was the entirety of gamers who play violent video games) odds you will get for violent video games causing violence.
www.ign.com/articles/2017/11/07/gta-5-has-sold-in-85-million-copies
www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
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There have been many studies showing there is no lasting desensitization on those who play violent video games and no connection between violent video games and real-world violent behavior.
th-cam.com/video/NxKMNGPu0Mo/w-d-xo.html
theconversation.com/its-time-to-end-the-debate-about-video-games-and-violence-91607
ideas.time.com/2011/12/07/video-games-dont-make-kids-violent/
www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/health/video-games-and-violence/index.html
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180116131317.htm
wccftech.com/videogames-vvg-dont-increase-aggression/
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Violent video games are not only not harmful, but also useful.
There are many ways video games can improve your brain, including hand-eye coordination, spatial awareness, focus, strategic thinking, and the Nintendo Wii and virtual reality have been used to help doctors practice performing surgeries. Concepts used in video games can be used to improve the education system.
Because video games improve spatial awareness and focus, people who play first-person shooters, like Call of Duty (a violent war video game), are less likely to crash their vehicle when they take a driving test and they have to avoid obstacles.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1422600/
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.1983.57.1.155
psycnet.apa.org/record/1987-23073-001
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1068/a41250
www.news-medical.net/news/20130822/Video-games-help-brain-to-improve-strategic-thinking.aspx
th-cam.com/video/FktsFcooIG8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/MuDLw1zIc94/w-d-xo.html
www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/02/27/173076773/nintendo-wii-helped-budding-surgeons-move-to-head-of-the-class
psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-11858-007
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Action video games have even helped dyslexic children read better.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982213000791
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Playing video games improves your ability to learn new tasks.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982212001303
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"As far back as 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that research did not find a clear connection between violent video games and aggressive behavior. Criminologists who study mass shootings specifically refer to those sorts of connections as a “myth.” "
theconversation.com/its-time-to-end-the-debate-about-video-games-and-violence-91607
www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-1448.ZS.html
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Again, video games (even violent games) are not only not harmful, but also useful/helpful in numerous ways in the real world.
Wes Baugher I was looking for this comment. Thank you.
oh. parenting? you're giving a lot of people too much credit, unfortunately
Real talk.
LeBron is an American citizen before a basketball player. He is allowed to criticize the government.
+collin ohlinger Yeah, but the counter argument used in this instance was total BS.
Goose With Da Gibus Are we watching the same video? She clearly implied he isnt a politician hes an NBA player so he shouldnt be talking about politics.
I would say lebron is lebron.
Naruto The point still stands they are American citizens, they should be allowed to talk about politics especially on the show they were on (I've never seen it so I don't know what type of show it is) regardless of whether they were NBA players, actors, doctors or even pornstars, they should be aloud to talk on it and be criticized, but they should be criticized on they points they gave on that show, not their careers they chose to follow.
+collin ohlinger "You're a filthy casual with no grammer skillz" What eloquence and great "counter-criticism". lol
The "Champions of Free Speech" are telling others to shut up because they don't like certain opinions. Bwahaha. The irony.
America: Tougher Gun laws don't work
Meanwhile in Australia
Ah yes, because being an athlete or celebrity immediately voids your status as an American who should be invested in their country's politics.
Cap'n exactly. I don’t get the argument that famous people should’´t voice their opinions about politics. They don’t influence people any more than some youtubers out there who pretend to know about politics because they « debate » SJW’s. Why re those people allowed to talk?
Good Fellow 😂
Good Fellow also if entertainers shouldn’t be allowed to talk about politics why was Donald Trump allowed to talk about politics and run for presidency?
thats not really the reason just the excuse. its a problem of "your opinion is different than mine so shut up i dont want to hear it. you must be stupid. lalalalallala i cant hear you"
So it's ok for entertainers to be the president... just not mention their political opinions unless they're running for president?
So on the 21 for a pistol 18 for a rifle thing:
1- no, it is not just a few minutes and you walk out with a rifle, it’s a few minutes to sign the papers and giving your info and payment, and then up to 14 days till you get your rifle.
2- the reason it’s 21 till you can purchase a pistol is because of concealablilty and mobility.
Here's a thing in the UK technically you could have a shotgun at 3 years old, because you needed someone that knew you for 3 years to sign your licence. Not that I think it ever happened.
Im so tired of people trying to throw the blame for violence on video games or movies. I feel that it's about how a person is raised, their environment that they're raised in, and the circumstances of how they grew up. Like growing up in a rough neighborhood. They had to learn to defend themselves to survive. You have countries who have never even heard of Mario and they have shootings just like we do. I have played video games all of my life "well most of it" and I have never once thought about shooting, hurting, or or attacking anyone ever. If you're raised to love and care for others that should never cross your mind.
I get what you mean but the movies, video games etc can give a person who's on that breaking point an idea of what to do and what kind of weapon to use. You can simulate a good way to execute your mass murder in a game like gta. I agree that it shouldn't get all the blame but it can be a factor.
Caring for others?
On the internet?
In 2018?
Preposterous!
Everytime I hear that video games are a cause of violence, I like to remind them that before video games violence was still a thing in the world.
I think it comes down to parents. They refuse to admit they never raised their kid properly so they look for something to blame. I realise that makes me sound like an edgy teenager but most of the people i see screaming that video games are the root of all evil are parents that dont seem to understand their own kids.
It’s been nearly two decades since the Columbine shooting and we’re still on this shit. Jesus.
"We never had school shootings back in my day" LIES. As long as angry people have existed there have always been shootings/beatings/stabbings in school, this isn't a new issue brought on by games. In 1927 a dude bashed into a school in Bath, michigan & bombed it, killing 36. In 1966 U of Texas had a shooting resulting in 17 deaths. A quick google search says the first school shooting was somehow in the 1700's. People forget we've never changed as people. Yes games are violent but it's a fallacy to place them as the cause for violence, the problem's always been us and how we cope with things.
Its not that they dont happen its rather the frequency. Wasnt that long ago you could buy a machine gun at the local gun shop....this problem did not exist. Please read
Mass Shootings and the Media Contagion Effect
Jennifer Johnston, Ph.D. and Andrew Joy, BS
Western New Mexico University
maybe they didn't have school shootings, more like black church burnings and kkk rallies out on the town square.
I think part of it is also spread of information and the notoriety that shooters think they will achieve now. We have information coming at us 24/7 now, so stuff like this is happening more and is more talked about.
Catelyn: He said they didnt have school shootings, he did not say he was a Democrat, you know the group that had slaves in America, took America to civil war over it, same Democrats with Jim Crow laws and Segregation, same Democrats who would bring back Eugenics under the flag of abortion clinics, same Democrats who would turn a helping hand into a crushing welfare system in our post Agricultural phase.
Margie: ding ding ding a Winner!!!!! You are 100% correct, the science and associated research with stats does in fact point to "fame seeking" in these contagion shooting incidents. See the following article, it also describes why we wont deal with such a simple issue.
Mass Shootings and the Media Contagion Effect
Jennifer Johnston, Ph.D. and Andrew Joy, BS
Western New Mexico University
Politicians also blamed the Columbine shooting on id Software and DOOM. It went to court. id Software won the case. The judge ruled that it was in no part the fault of the game or it's creators.
Just in case anyone forgot.
Gravuun Politicians also blamed Marilyn Manson for Columbine
If there wasn't any way I could fucking love id's work even more, goddamn did they find a way back in the past like that.
Bullying was also blamed, but it turned out that no, they were the assholes, one of them was a sociopath and his lackey was depressed and a follower. I also remember that trench coats were banned as if the Trench Coat Mafia was a real thing.
they also blamed the tec-9 and banned it because it was a pistol that looked scary. the tec-9 was a pretty garbage pistol. They banned it and fixed nothing.
Cheyenne Hayden they also tried to blame the band KMFDM because one of the shooters featured their song "Stray Bullet" on the website they made...
I wonder if has ever she said to Trump 'Shut up and run the country' (instead of blabbering on Twitter)
Damn, those comments about LeBron from that Fox news lady were a little underhanded. Doesn't matter if they weren't racist, it was straight up mean and very clearly personally biased.
If violent games make people violent, does Ace Attorney make me a lawyer? Or if I play Gran Turismo does that make me a race car driver?
"There are video games, that yes, are listed for mature audiences, but kids play them and everybody knows it. And there is nothing to prevent the child from playing it."
How about the parents take a little responsibility. An M rating game can't be sold to someone under 17, but if the parents buy it for them, then perhaps the blame should fall on them. Not that it matters. Let's be honest, as pointed out in this video, video games aren't causing this.
The amount of kids on GTA5 online alone is just sad...
THERE IS NOTHING TO PREVENT IT, NOTHING!!!!!!!!! lmfao
Honestly a lot of them are rated M just cause you can talk to other people and that leads to unintended vulgarness
I agree, but he does have a point that children get M-rated games all the time. My mother bought me God of War when I was young. Granted I am so utterly docile and unlikely to kill anyone that when my mother sent me off to college she said "Get out there and live a little." So a parent might think twice before giving a more unstable kid a game like that.
The problem is that the government stepped in and took a great deal of power away from parents and now kids think they can do as they please because if their parents so much as raise their voice, they can cry abuse and CPS steps in. I understand stopping real true abuse but that should not come in the way of actual discipline. We need to be able to tell kids no and ground them without it being labeled as abuse. Hell, I've had people try to buy a candy bar for my nephews after I tell them no they can't have any. But I digress... parents need to take some responsibility and not just buy things for their kids without looking at them first. Its not like its that hard to google a game or movie and see what its about BEFORE buying it for the kids. Its also not hard to take some time to explain to younger kids the difference between a game/movie and real life. Kids are smart, they will understand if you explain things to them calmly and seriously.
just been away for a week, wathcing all the weeks shows while cleaning - finaly timecodes per topc! thanks!
Nice that they have their priorities straight I mean let's just ignore mental health, poverty, violence with in our culture or the break down of the family unit it has to be a fucking video game
And guns
Pseudo Schnitzel they are actually trying to make stronger back round check
Kameron Jones I hope so
Pseudo Schnitzel look up trump want stronger back round check it should pull up some things
lakamokolaka he was receiving mental health. I'm not siding for the gunman whatsoever but don't stigmatize mental health people. I have a lot of mental health issues and a broken family but I'm not going to go do what the gunman did.
i got high and watching both John Wick and John Wick 2 now playing COD while listening to rap music....hmmm still not homicidal , not despondent, no feelings to create mass murder...i could murder some chips though i have some crazy munchies
Greg Keane dude, eat Pluto the dwarf planet, it tastes good cold. I think I'm on a wierd trip.
Charlie... you really know how to ruin a joke.
Greg Keane imma murder TF outta these nachos 🤤
Appealing to authority is the most rampant fallacy when it comes to countering opinions of athletes or other entertainers. You can see how Ingraham has no interest in actually commenting or even debating Lebron's points. As long as you have a hole in your resume that people can attack, roaches like Ingraham will take it and run a marathon with it. The unfortunate thing is that they get away with it simply because people in her base or of similar argumentative skills would bare their entire argument on that very exact fallacy.
The best thing you can do is ignore them because they hardly will ever have any interest in actually caring about your opinion. They are trolls given a platform.
I kinda get where the accusation of racism was coming from w the "shut up and dribble" thing. Not because she said they shouldn't speak, but bc she was going after their intelligence so hard, attacking the way they spoke and making a broad statement about how NBA players, around 75% of whom are black, are uneducated and haven't even finished high school. I was honestly getting those vibes, but then again I don't know her personal history or if that's generally the way she talks about people or even if any of those claims are at all substantiated. I mean either way...it's FOX news. Would anyone be shocked if she did turn out to be racist?
I think that speaks more to your outlook than hers. "Shut up and dribble" does not carry any connotation of race whatsoever. I could see if he wasn't a basketball player, then you may have something, but he is a basketball player. The race card is the worst scapegoat anyone can use in an argument. I know you are not saying that and just making a statement of understanding, but this is where problems come from. Race is a tool of control used by those that don't want actual issues to be discussed. People are so afraid of the truth these days, that whenever faced with the possibility that their viewpoint isn't that, regardless of political position, class, race, etc, they degrade the discussion to these subjects. It is indicative of the crumbling character of society as a whole.
Ok 1. I literally said that I don't think the "shut up and dribble" thing in itself is racist. 2. I don't understand at all your reasoning that "If he wasn't a basketball player, I could see your point"....??? If he wasn't a basketball player, this wouldn't be a discussion. If her statement on the intelligence of NBA players wasn't contextualized by her talking about an NBA player...I wouldn't even know what to say to that. That would just be strange. 3. I understand, in the current political climate, how you and others like you may be "sick of hearing about the whole race thing" and be quick to dismiss it at this point, esp when there's stuff like "this gorilla's clothes is kinda similar to mine so I'm going to take it as a personal racist attack" floating around. But that doesn't invalid my argument. It's not a crazy leap to go from "black people are stupid" to "members of this organization, which is predominantly black, are uneducated". But EVEN THAT BEING SAID, I don't think 100% that it was meant to be racially coded. 4. I really wish ppl would drop this whole "if you say something's racist, you're racist" shit. It's inane. It's like listening to adults say "I know you are but what am I"
The "barely intelligible" part is what got me. He spoke very clearly and his grammar was perfectly fine for casual speech, no worse than mine at least. African Americans are always getting shit on for how they speak, if they're using slang or AAVE or just have a "black" accent. I don't know this lady's deal, but to me it came off like she saw a black guy on screen and her own assumptions completely distorted what she actually heard, because I honestly don't even get what she found so hard to understand.
And what he said wasn't even that bad, I mean if someone had said that about Obama I'd disagree but I wouldn't be OUTRAGED
This is from my reply to you: "I know you are not saying that and just making a statement of understanding, but this is where problems come from." Therefore, your first point is irrelevant.
To your second point this is a direct quote from you: "...making a broad statement about how NBA players, around 75% of whom are black, are uneducated and haven't even finished high school." The implication here is that because she said these things, about a group of people whose majority is black, that it was somehow "vibing" as racism. My response was that just because the majority of the group was black, doesn't mean that any sort of racism is implied from a generalization made about that group. It would have a stronger case of having racist connotation if she said that to them and they weren't basketball players because it could be seen as being a demeaning gesture towards people who belong to a group that are largely associated with basketball.
It may not be a crazy leap to go from "black people are stupid" to "members of this organization, which is predominantly black, are uneducated," but that is what a lot of people do. They do it without thought, as a knee-jerk reaction. They use it to subvert actually valuable discourse.
You're named for David Bowie's cancer? :-/
There's SO much wrong with what Laura Ingraham said, but let's just end this ignorance by saying: no matter how rich or famous you are, you have the freedom of speech to criticize or critique whoever is in the government.
Fox News talks about how Trump has given the silenced people of America a voice, but doesn't respect other people who give a voice to other silenced people. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Oh so it seems this is your first time watching anything from Fox News. They are hypocrisy given form and they revel in it.
Fox news nearly always brings rich fake "experts".
If you believe a word of what ANY mainstream media outlet tells you at face value then you're nothing but sheep being led by wolves.
James Burgess I'm curious to know if she ever actually critiques WHAT was said and backs it up or just HOW it was said. Focusing on someone's speech pattern with nothing to be said about the message of the speech makes for a poor debater.
James Burgess it doesn't matter who you are, you have a right to voice your opinion about your government because they are the asshats who govern your life.
Yeah because video games are totally to blame for gun violence, that argument always works!
You know something I find it funny that whenever there’s these shootings or someone who did something utterly reprehensible that instead of trying to research or discuss ways on how to prevent this from happening again the first thing that seem to come to mind is for these people is on who to blame.
These people will point the finger at family life (relatives), culture (tv, video games, and music), and school environment (poor education, bullying) which always end with blamers trying to punish these “causes” by harassment, encouragement of censorship, or stricter rules for these subjects but yet with these people they would rather focus making these things scapegoats than to come up with a solution.
gunfighter The best way to solve a problem is by finding the cause
Tiger Festivals True but as I said before these type of people are more focus on finding scapegoats instead of finding a real solution.
gunfighter That's because many of these people that we hear the most from because they have the largest platform, never really have anything at stake for themselves. for example large media outlets (CNN, Fox News, MSNBC) don't care about actually producing any results. And people who vote for a living (life long politicians on both sides) only care about votes. Both use big buzz words to try to illicit an emotional response to the largest audience and as fast as possible. All this without actually committing to anything. Those people live in a bubble and don't have to deal with day to day issues that the average citizen deal with but they always drawn out the voices of regular people to try to raise their stats. It's a number game to them.
gunfighter the NRA/republicans have made banned any research towards guns with the CDC
Carl Erichsen they havent banned research, the cdc wont touch that subject.
We have the second amendment SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Get over it and maybe instead of blaming the tool you blame the tool wielder.
Lol, I can never take Fox News seriously anymore.
Alec Beans
Same. The bias is so obvious that it actually makes me laugh.
Video Games; don't kill people, people kill people
lakamokolaka and hurricanes
VeinerSchnoozle except for tropical storm Marco, nobody likes him
Or as a wise man once said: "stupid motherfuckers with guns kill people"
"there is nothing to prevent the kids from playing these games" ummm...what about the parents.
What about the parents?
Daddy works a long day
The parents give their child whatever they want, so maybe he has a point?
EvyT hwnejejeke No he doesn’t have a point lol. If parents let the kids play then that is solely on the parents. That’s obvious as hell. They blame video games, movies, and music because they don’t want to take the time to actually look into the problem
When I was a wee lad parading around the mushroom kingdom stomping goombas, kicking turtle shells, grabbing some floating coins, and eating magic mushroom's making me super, all I could think about was how I was going to go out in the world stomp somebody's head, steal their money and buy some drug's. God damn you video games, god damn you...
"Hit 'me with that truth. They'll reject it but still you'll know you're in the right". That brought back the memory of my family and I getting into a huge fight about racism. I focused too much on the slavery thing but the reaction I got was terrible.
Shut up and teach you're just a teacher,
Shut up and clean you're just a janitor,
Shut up and paint you're just an artist.
America is full of people with careers that are not based on politics and our options should always count.
I agree, but please fix your grammar. It's "you're", as is "you are".
StarGazer kawaii don't act like you have a professional opinion when you're not in a political career or aspiring to be in it. Is Lebron running for office or working as a civil servant? Is he going into the justice system? No. Yet he seems to take himself as if he is a current candidate
hector mesta If every American is allowed to vote, every American is allowed to voice their opinions on said candidates. He simply shared his opinions.
hector mesta Donald Trump had plenty of "professional opinions" before he ever decided to run for office or any position in the government. Your argument makes zero sense because by your logic, your opinion invalidates itself
hector mesta was that sarcasm? Because it was cute. Embarrassing opinion, but cute that you tried. Everyone has a right to speak on how they feel in public or in private. Good joke of yours though.
Telling public figures to "shut up and [blank]" is fucking ridiculous. They're PEOPLE, NOT inhuman machines that have one sole function and can't do anything else.
Grace Motley her point was he doesn't know shit about politics, and people listen to him like he knows what he's saying when he's just spreading ignorance with "Trump is racist" and "Trump is divisive and doesn't care about Americans"
MegaAbomb false
It was what they were appointed for, why should we care about their opinions?
its me lol really Trump is a racist? Please elaborate.
MegaAbomb, as a democratic country every citizen has a right to voice their opinion, and the government is elected to represent the people. The people therefore have a right to criticize the governments actions.
Lebron: *Openly shares personal opinions about the President*
Fox News: *Throws insults and cries*
Also what Lebron said was clear to understand. Attacking his grammer is just like a "spelling lame" attack in written comments. The meaning of the comment could not be attacked so something else was in an effort to distract.
Have you ever seen any other news outlet? Talking about crying.. rofl
Lolol like a baby throwing a tantrum.
Didn't Fox News support Trump with his entire "African shithole countries" statement like blind dogs?
9/11 Strawman
Yeah man, video games make me wanna double pump my entire 2nd period class and loot all their lunch money like it's Fortnite
"This is what happens when you drop out of school a year early" - 2 minutes later - "He makes 100 million a year"
A for effort
Lycho Wouffe lmaooooo so true
It's like she's implying he dropped out for no good reason.
Can we all just agree that video games do not cause violence.
JohnsAnimations most people do. These Republican crazies are beating a dead horse from decades ago.
Only if you have a brain
It seems like republicans are usually the enemy.
I blame society. Not video games. Epic fail.
Its actually mental health and society's apathy towards it. Its much easier to blame something else rather than taking responsibility as a society.
Catcher I can agree with that.
Our society is actually filled with people who just dont give a damn. And its effecting everyone from all walks of life and it sucks to see that. And Phil is right other countries are doing the crazy mess that we are doing on a constant basis they are confused. I am living Italy right now and I talk to them about it and they are just surprised because they dont understand at all. Its crazy.
I blame Obama. Thanks Obama.
9:47 "It's garbage. It's the same as pornography" I'm dead.
I am in the Army. I have always been very pro 2nd amendment. I own multiple Ar-15s, hunting rifles, shotguns, handguns, and even a few muzzleloaders. But the more and more these tragic events happen and we look for a solution it makes me really question my opinions on gun control. I do not know what the right answer is and obviously I want to keep my firearms. But God damn it we need to figure out a solution and we need to figure one out NOW. That was a very powerful and emotional speech and I pray that our politicians can come to an agreed upon and effective solution soon. I know that we will never find a perfect solution and *MONSTERS* will always find a way to take the lives of innocent people but I pray we can one day find a solution that puts a dent in the problem we currently face.
I joined the Army because I was an angry patriot and want to do my part to protect my country and abolish terrorism around the world and it really hurts knowing that we have just as many issues within our borders as we do outside.
DznByLimbo Being an angry patriot isn't the only reason you joined the army. 🤣🤣
I think you shouldn't be able to buy a gun until 25 because that is when the brain is fully developed. And, for regular citizens, assault riffles should be illegal.
2nd Amendment > Children's lives
DznByLimbo So what exactly do you need multiple AR-15s for if you don't mind me asking?
I do agree with you wholeheartedly and will never give up my guns I was just expressing the raw emotion that tragic events like these bring to the surface. I want there to be a logical middle ground that actually starts preventing these attacks.
Study after study has proven that video games and other like media do not make people violent/sexist/racist. This argument doesn't need to keep happening after every major incident. Art reflects society, and we can't keep blaming these events on it. Really it boils down to this either video games are art, and it is protected, or they aren't. If they aren't art then neither are movies, because games are just movies without interaction, right? And books can't be art because they're just movies without pictures. So that just means that drawings are the only true art out there, so long as they depict nice, pretty, non offensive ideas, or contain Jesus. (The last part is just a stab at the fact that most of the people who preach this are WASPs)
Look my heart goes out to those affected by this psychopath, no person or family should ever have to endure what has happened to them. I sincerely hope they get the help they need.
video games are just movies with* interaction
but no, video games are more like visual, interactive books
TecnicStudios that's not the point I would have fixated on but sure, video games are like books you can see. Much like the great cinnamon toast crunch, it is the taste you can see.
I play all kinds of games Gta COD battlefield doom ect I'm not violent, most gamers are not violent. Get out of here. Also really Jesus? Your really bringing in religion ha. Lol. Have you ever ever heard of west Burrough or jones town, cults are deadly and I know a lot of religious people who are extremely sexiest and religious. Also I love how the right blames video games and the left blames guns lmao find another excuse
Only thing I want to replicate is having all the money you can get in Payday 2.
Wait- Hold on.
Out of all the idiocy on Laura Ingraham's complaints: Unintelligible?
Did she even watch them talking? Does she know what unintelligible means? It means: impossible to understand. How was anything that Lebron said, literally, impossible to understand? After being specifically upset with what he said? So she did understand what he said? So it wasn't unintelligible.
The only way Lebron's comments were unintelligible is if you're suffering from a head injury. Or maybe she needs to take her own advice and go back to high school.
Nick Blomgren I agree✌🌻. I think she's self righteous&racist
you forgot "ungrammatical" which, admittedly is recognized as a word SHOULDN'T be. seriously she's a "journalist" and should know what word sounds BEYOND stupid. I thought it was a made-up word when I first heard it because it sounded so awkward/dumb.
Im Swedish, i understood every word he said, how could an American not?
I have a head injury and I'm still smarter than Laura.
I like how she complains about LeBron being "unintelligible" and "ungrammatical" when Trump barely completed a single coherent sentence on the campaign trail.
Emma Gonzalez: Please run for office when you become eligible to do so. And bring your friends. We need you to protect schools and society as a whole!! Thank you for speaking out.
It's annoying that some people think that others have the mental capacity of a 3 year olds. They don't realize that most people have enough self restraint and maturity not to be influenced by media to the extent of violence; They can easily tell the difference between it and real life. They understand that killing someone in a video game is much different than real life. In my group of peers most, if not all, of us are against violence, yet all of us like media that contains violence. Now of course we don't enjoy the games, movies, or shows because of this, but we understand that it is there for a reason and we probably wouldn't enjoy it as much if it were to lack violence (i.e FPS games, Action movies, etc.).While this isn't a universal truth that all people enjoy media with violence, and that everyone can exhibit self control and differentiate between works of fiction and real life, it seems like overkill to outright ban media that contains violence; The same could be said about literature, music, or art containing anything deemed as unwanted.
In General it seems severe mental illness might affect people and video games/media might give them that poke they need to lash out.
But saying that media/videogames itself causes these events is preposterous
Licky: Well you just said in the case of the mentally ill, video-games can trigger these events. You are contradicting yourself.
what I meant is that, as a whole, videogames and media aren't gonna make people violent monsters. But yes for the severely mentally ill it might, but even then its mostly not the media/games' fault, its the mental illness' fault
Oh yeah, VIDEO GAMES are desensitising. Not the continuous mass shootings that the American government does nothing about. Because the government doing nothing is not at all giving the impression that they are fine if these shootings continue. Not like other countries have access to these games but America is the only one with mass school shootings.
Blame the media not directly marketed to you. Most logical option.
Tey just want to blame someone who isn't them.
To the people making fake race baiting stories:
Congratulations, you've officially stooped to Joey Salads' levels, how does it feel?
*Salad crunching intensifies*
SBroproductions insecurity intensifies*
SBroproductions number 15 burger king foot lettuce
Joey salads? Weird name for an 11 year old Muslim girl
The Ace Of Spades I bet they won't feel nothing like the dead shit they are
Blaming games and movies for school shootings is like blaming the baby for the miscarriage
Can’t help but laugh at that reporter criticising LeBron James for dropping out of high school to join the NBA, then mentions how he makes $100m a year. Like, that was clearly a good decision by LeBron
And on top of the $100m a year he gets to do what he loves the most instead of working a dead-end miserable job. Everyone would drop out of high school for that deal.
TheUnseenShadaw regardless of who you think is right in the debate, having a go at James for dropping out of high school is kind of pointless when he is as successful as he is (this coming from a guy from Liverpool, England who doesn’t follow basketball and only knows him because he has a share in our local football team)
Not sure if it's the case but I think you misunderstood me, I'm in agreement with you, I just wanted to say that on top of the great salary he gets to do what he loves, so it was a truly good decision by LeBron, I wasn't trying to have a go at James. Either you misunderstood my comment or I just misunderstood your reply just now, anyway have a good day.
TheUnseenShadaw I was also agreeing with you. Just wanted to point out how we as a society can disagree and have debate without things getting personal. Hope you have a great day as well
John Williams He didn't drop out of highschool. He finished high school but didn't go to college.
Whenever someone blames video games for murder and violence i usually respond with "sure, because jack the ripper was constantly playing grand theft auto"
That is not a good argument, to be fair. It doesn't logically follow. "If P then Q" does not imply "if not P then not Q". For example, McDonald's causes obesity, but people were getting obese long before the first McDonald's store went up.
except theres actually a corelation between obesity growing when fast food restaurants such as mcdonalds came arround, that you dont find in video games
"nothing to prevent the child from playing them..." I'm assuming the parents either bought the game for them, are paying the light bill, own the home the game is being played in or bought the television it's being played on.
Wait... Are you saying that parents should regulate the media their kids are consuming? That... That's so insane it might just work! Quickly! Alert the media about this crazy new idea you just came up with! It will revolutionize childcare!
I really hope you realize people can pirate the game online, right?
Thor Rocks Still have to buy the computer capable of running the game and give them free access to the internet.
Thor Rocks my children would need access to a computer or console for this. And they don't. Nor would they know how to go about doing this. Because I am their mother. I know where they are and what they are doing. If they have nothing to do then they can go outside. If its too cold or raining they can draw or practice cursive. Parents don't want to take an active role in their kids lives and they let them watch themselves and this is the cause of a lot of our problems.
Blueyes0787 I'd say kids who don't need active parents would benefit from passive ones, but it all depends on the mental state of the kids and the parental ability of the parents. Other than that you're right.
All Americans have the right to speak freely...and to freely criticize those they disagree with.
We need to bring the pillory back. Every time a politician says something erroneous and obviously not fact checked or researched they get placed in the pillory in their town centre. They are after all supposed to represent the people, by lying or being disingenuous they betray the confidence of the people and so a punishment is deserved. I am held accountable for my mistakes and I don't serve the people. Maybe then we will have fewer politicians whose only aim is to line their pockets.
Jazznblues Yeah term limits would go a long way in helping too.
And you think Hillary's goal wasn't to line her pockets? All politicians are just there to line their damn pockets. Trump was put there because he wasn't one of them. It's just fun watching the politicians try to keep doing their dance with Trump in charge. He runs the country as a business, and that's fascinating to watch. At least we don't have yet another politician who will just sit in office twiddling their thumbs for 8 years.
So, every time someone says "Diversity is our strength" I can just point to black crime rates and lock them up? ;3
nah, he's not sitting in office. you're right about that. he's playing golf instead. your "president" is a disgrace.
therealpanse Could've been worse.
Honestly, I always thought video games would do the opposite. They give an outlet for people to take their unorthodox desires to. You like blowing stuff up and causing chaos? Don't do it in real life, do it in a video game! But hey, that's just me.
pretty sure that's what it does for most normal people
the coned one you are exactly right, games like gta have shown to make people more calm and other stuff like that in real life
Games are the only thing that keep me from going out and hurting people, well that and when I would get high. Yes when I was in my early 20's. I would go to shady bars and places where I could fight because I was pissed off allot of the time. Luckily I never was arrested for starting fights.
I’ve been playing first person shooter games for over 7-8 years now, and I have not touch or shoot a gun in real life. So thats just bs in my opinion.
Younes I have been playing violent video games and watching violent movies since I was a kid and I own several guns, haven’t murdered anyone and never will.
Video games effect people differently I’m not saying the shooting was cause video games but it could’ve been a small part
Hes got a GUN!!!! AGHHHHHHH WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!
j.meezy __ Just as movies, rap music and knitting could have been a small part of it
Younes yeah we have violent video games in Australia... am yet to see any mass killings that were inspired by video games
There was a shooting threat to Columbine last night over Snapchat. Security was heightened and a bunch of students didn't show up.