BASIC WIRING: TRYING TO BE TO CODE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- We attempt to install and wire up the vent fan and light for our toilet room this week.
We would love any feedback about the wiring job we are doing. We are not code enforced but would still like to make sure we are doing everything correct. If you see anything that needs to be changed please leave us a comment. We spent a lot of time researching this and Jay has some basic experience with it, but we might have missed some small details.
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We are NOT electrical experts. Do not use this video as advice. If anything we are looking for advice from experts if anyone sees anything we've done wrong. Thank you for watching and have a great day.
You’re almost right on mixed wire size. The overall ampacity from the circuits home run dictates wire sizes feeding the branch circuit and devices.
Simple rule is wire can be larger than individual circuits breaker but not smaller. In your case, mixing 14ga and 12ga your overcurrent circuit protection for that circuit and branch circuits would not be more 15 amp breaker.
Today’s NEC code requires Arc fault or GFCI protection on nearly every circuit. Obviously any circuit within 5’ of a water source GFCI and remaining would be Arc fault. The sad thing with the code over the years; we went from a very reliable and stable current system to specialized current controlled system that is prone to nuisance trips. I always just us dual functioning breakers for every circuit in panel as a result.
The cabin is Looking great though!
@@Volusia1 Thank you for the explanation. Good to have some experts looking out for us. Can I bug you then with a few questions? The breaker that will be used for this run is only going to power that switch box, then 3 more switches in the bathroom (2 lights and another fan). Since there are no outlets on that run does the arc fault requirement come into play? The outlets that will be for the bathroom and our gas-powered in-line water heater will be on a separate breaker with a GFI outlet. 15 amp breaker for the lights/fans and 20 amp for the outlets all with 12 ga. That's correct? I was trying to keep lights and outlets on separate breakers because we won't have a lot of power in the cabin, so we have plenty of available space in the breaker box and I hate when the GFI trips and lights go out.
@@AlaskanFreedom current code after 2014 (2020 NEC) says NEC's definition, a hardwired lighting circuit still needs an AFCI breaker because it supplies electrical current to light fixtures and is therefore considered an “outlet.”
(The NEC® requirement includes installation of AFCIs in all new home construction including bedrooms, living rooms, dining rooms, sunrooms, othering gathering places and in kitchen and laundry areas.)
Yes I think it’s silly for lighting circuits but I don’t write the code. I believe Alaska uses 2017 code but don’t quote me on that.
@@Volusia1 good to know. There are no code enforcement or inspections in our area, but I still want to stick to them with the electrical just to be safe. Thanks again
@@AlaskanFreedom any outlet that you believe that will be a higher draw then wire with 12ga for 20amp. I typically in residential wire laundry, kitchen and bathroom with arc/gfi protected 20amp. Bedroom and living quarters 15amp arc.
With that said these dual function breakers are expensive in comparison to a normal breaker but I found them very stable. Important note; make sure all connections either by wire nut, screw, or in panel are tight!!! Nuisance trips are normal a “neutral” connection loose somewhere in the circuit. Since these breakers relay on the neutral to operate.
It works ...I knew it would. Enjoy !!
Very nice cabin
I do,like the bathroom light, good choice. 😊
Thank you. Wish it looked as good on camera as it does in person. We love it.
Great video!
Very nice light
You are so patient with Elaine so she can be part of the video. You could get done so much faster by yourself but I’m sure she feels good to be able to say she helped build yalls cabin. Time together can be more important in a marriage than time.
We are in no hurry to finish. We love working together and building our life as a team.
@@AlaskanFreedom as well you should,
Nice work you two, you make a great team, and Jay is so kind & patient while teaching Eleinne, such a good husband!! Your Alaskan cabin is looking SWEET!! 🥰
@rougefox9233 thank you
Love the light!!! Great video guys!!!
We'll be coming to bug you soon and look at the solar set up. Thanks Sean, you've always been a big help and inspiration to us.
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Enjoying your channel, thaks
I love watching Eleinne learn new skills. She is very encouraging to those of us that hole back on doing new things.
Thank you for the kind words Nancy. She is a hard worker and loves to learn.
That looks mo betta 😊😊
Very nice light !!!
Elaine is becoming a Electrician 😊
Thanks for the content, been watching since you started. May want to research this…If the jbox is going to be permanently exposed, you’ll likely need to change the plastic switch plate to a Steel Metallic Square Cover, 1/2 in Raised, 2-Toggle to meet code. If there are finishes on the wall that make the jbox flush with the finish then the plastic cover is allowed. Keep up the content, great work you two!
Thank you so much for the comment. I was wondering if the plastic cover was a code issue. We will be finishing the walls soon and the box will then be mounted against the wall, exposed. Before I had time to even research about plastic coverings, Eleinne decided she wanted all matching metal decorative covers. No one locally carries them like we want so we'll have to order them. We very much appreciate the expert input.
Great job, you two. Home is coming together just fine.
Hi there😊
Looks great
Great job guys
Thank youl
The only thing I would do, and not because of code in some areas, is electrical tape over the wire nuts just to be safe.
@@themanonthestreet yeah couldn't hurt
I feel electric work very confusing 😢
It is a little at first. But we are enjoying learning new things.
Learn by doing or OJT 😂
Not really sure why you are using a surface mount metal box unless it's temporary. If you mix 12 gauge and 14 gauge wire in one circuit, you must use a 15amp breaker. So, it's fundamentally dumb to use more expensive 12 gauge wire and dangerous to use a 20amp breaker with any circuit that has 14 gauge wire. Don't do it.
@@DanaUdapp the entire cabin will be surface mount and exposed conduit. Was not aware i couldn't use 20 amp with 14 ga prior to this video. So happy to be learning from people taking time to comment and teach us. Thank you, it will save us from mistakes and costs as we continue.
@@AlaskanFreedom I'll try to explain the scenario: At some point in the future, you or someone else opens your breaker panel and sees 12 gauge wire on a 15amp breaker and thinks : "Oh I can put a bigger breaker (20 amp)" on this circuit. Then they plug in something that draws a lot more than 15 amps, the wire gets hot, the breaker doesn't trip and the next thing you know- your cabin burns down. No bueno.
@@DanaUdapp make sense, thank you for taking the time to explain that. This is helping us a lot.