the PROPER WAY to LOAD a CAT EARTH SCRAPER w/a BULLDOZER | RC ADVENTURES
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- The DEBATE IS ON! The Proper Way to Load a PUSH/PULL Road Scraper with a Dozer...
I thought I would try my hand at road construction. My equipment is quite heavy, and all hydraulic and electric. Everything is radio controlled, of course. Some of them are quite complicated. These are the kind of Toys I have always wanted in MY sandpit.. what about you?
What do you think of them?
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Convince me I'm Wrong...
Ok ok I held my comments from the last video but since you asked for it here ya go. First, the picture displayed at the beginning of the video is indeed a dozer pulled pan however it is just the pan not a complete scraper, and it is being pulled from a 4 way pintle hitch not being pulled from the ripper shank of the dozer. Second, My family and I have been in the large scale grading industry in California for years and I currently manage a fleet of cat 637g scrapers and two cat d9r dozers. So besides just telling you your wrong here’s the best way I can think of to convince you. In full scale on the job site if you look at the height that a for example D9R dozer can lift its ripper shank it’s 25in (I measured as it’s close to the end of the day here in Cali) now if we walk over to the the front of a parked 637G scraper we will find that even with the hook fully lowered it’s at 39in from the ground. So in other words even on flat ground their is no physical way to pull one of our scrapers with the ripper shank of our dozers because the hook/ shank simply will not line up to allow a connection. Furthermore I showed my 63yr father (who has also been in the business his entire life) and when he saw the dozer hooked to the front of the scraper he quickly chuckled and said if that was real life the dozer operator would be sent home with his paycheck and be asked to never return to one of his job sites ever again. In conclusion, your playing with RCs so of course you can use them any way you like however when it comes to the full scale world the other operators in your comments section are correct a dozer should never pull a scraper from its ripper shank.
@@SirOffRoad THANK YOU , I'm 61 and in my life as a heavy equipment operator I've never seen a pan pulled by a dozer.
I think alot of people are missing the point. You guys were smiling and having fun which IS the point. Now if they want to tell you "that's not scale" ...
What OffRoad101 said. In full scale you would never see that done on a job site. One because it just wouldn't work as he pointed out, but as I also pointed out it would be too time consuming.. and time is money in the real world. That's why the tail of the scraper is built the way it is, to be able to handle being pushed by a dozer. A dozer only has to line up as the scraper goes by and get behind him as the pan lowers and should catch up as the scraper slows down from digging in, and the dozer only has to push the scraper instead of backing up and hooking up each and every pull. When you consider how many pulls need to be done on a jobsite, you are talking about a lot of time saved by pushing.
Well it sounded like there were many comments stating that pulling it isn't the right way to do it from those, like myself, who have or still do operate heavy equipment. That should be proof enough. Experience is all the proof you should need. Sure in the RC world you can pull it but even at that scale, it is still better to push it. In the real world, doing that would most likely result in breaking the ripper on the dozer. A very fast way to get yourself two checks and a trip to the unemployment office. I explained how it is suppose to work in my other comment. Smooth and easy which can't be done by pulling it nearly as well as by pushing it.
Ah yes the old days of that intro
Just started the video, and was going to make the exact same comment! Except you probably watched the videos back then, as I'm just playing catch-up lol
Hell yeah
gave me a whole bunch of nostalgia
Oh yes. My grandparents owned a rock quarry and at a young age seen the scrapers being pushed and pulled to get the maximum performance...it was an awesome time to see all that equipment and learned to operate some of it.
Ooooh, that intro...used to skip it because it hurt in my 2012 earphones😅 fkn love it now!🔥
So I got My first ever r.c. today it's a low end hobby grade crawler/trail truck. I've already started buying and making my own accessories all thanks to your channel. I swear this hobby saved me from my depression
We don't pull with dozers because we can rip the front of the pans off. Pushing is much better for the equipment.
As a fan of RC is awesome to do what you want. Don't worry about all the Karen's.
So who is a Karen ? Someone stating facts ?
@@freedomring4813 Yes, someone who is so overwhelmed with being right, that they can not see this is a setup video created to trigger them... This is an RC show.. there is no "right or wrong" way to play. Lol... there is our way, or yours.
Medic have you ever watched any of bartste rc videos????? There so real life like it’s amazing !
Wow this is So realistic RC Bulldozer 6:16 😱
"Just like the real thing!!" Part of rc'ing is being able to experiment doing stuff with the tiny vehicles that one would not attempt in real life... because we can!! If that involves grabbing hold of the front hook on a scraper with a dozer ripper then so be it :D :D even if some people only want to do it the right way in scale. I'm not judging!! Some people might judge me for NOT wanting to do all the 3D shenanigans with rc helicopters, not because it's too difficult (machine setup & lots of practice is key after all), but I choose to fly mine with only basic loops & rolls thrown in. Great vid as always, Aaron!
OLD SCHOOL INTRO!!!! LOVE IT!!! Love the new rig, too!!
In all my years as a heavy equipment operator I've never seen a dozer pull a scraper. The scrapers can pull other scrapers and the dozer in that situation is called a" push cat" ... the Cat dozer pushing the scrapers... Love the channel.
You just saw it today.. YOU'RE WELCOME for showing you something you have never seen before! That is not easy to do!!
@@TheRealRCSparks LOL 🤣
@@TheRealRCSparks and A Push Assist cat the blabe is about the size of a CAT D4 blade, and the push arrms come off the dozer from the front & under neith it kinda of the same desgn of a CAT D4. They also have big rubber cushions so when the push dozer bumps the push arm on the scraper its not a big bang...
Where did you get this scraper
As a career operator:
You can use a Dozer/buggy setup, but you use the blade on the stinger. That way as you load the bowl you can lift the blade the create traction on your Skinner tracks.
Just letting you know how it's done IRL
Much love man. Thank you for being you and providing positivity to help others through tough times! You're a role model! ❤
I'm really diggin that scraper, she's a beaut! Since i won't be able to afford one of those bad boys any time soon, I'll just live vicariously through you. Keep up the awesomeness!
Got goosebumps from the old intro❤ Only OG's knows 👑❤🔥
"You're not allowed to play with your toys how you want to!" Lmao I like how people say you can't do something, that you already did. Another great video, as always!
I’m happy you used the classic intro!
I almost thought I clicked onto a old video!!! Hell yeah bringing it back.
The intro brings me back to when I couldn't afford to buy RC
You have the nicest sunglasses collection I’ve ever seen
I thank you Sir.. thank you
Love seeing the old RC Sparks intro on your videos
Need to build some trails with all this heavy equipment for the new guys to trail on haha love it man love the vids
I love your original intro keep up the great work
He went back to the old intro!!!!!!
Has no one ever seen the dozer-scraper combos? Before the days of self driver-scrapers the scraper box was hooked behind the dozer which allowed it to take bigger bites at the lower speed.
When self-driving scrapers were introduced they took shallower cuts based on the compaction of the soil because they were using tires instead of tracks. The technique then became either pulling the self-drive scraper or pushing it from behind for the extra cut in harder soils.
The scraper>scraper technique is for higher speed where the front and back cut at two different levels where the front can take a sharper cut with assist while the back takes a normal or finish cut.
That first picture you showed is an actual pull behind scraper designed to be pulled behind a tractor or dozer. Your r/c scraper is a powered "driven" unit.(TOTALLY DIFFERENT) although i have been in a scraper and had a dozer help load me....but only pushing from the back. The ripper on the rear of the dozer would not raise up high enough to hook into the hoop on the front of a scraper. The front of each scraper has a hoop and a spring loaded pad...the hoop is to hook onto the rear of another scraper and be pulled to help load the pan... and the spring loaded pad is to push the scraper in the front to help load the pan. With this said....its all about having fun and even though its not normally done like this in real life dosent mean we cant do it with our r/c's! I dont see monster trucks climb trees, but my r/c monster trucks sure have a great time flying 15 feet up the trunk of a maple tree. Thats the beauty of r/c...you can do whatever your heart desires aslong as it makes you happy.
Man that looks like so much fun. 😂 another great video
HE BROUGHT BACK THE OLD INTRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That transmitter is so cool !! I can believe it takes a lot of practice to have it become second nature. Just remembering what does what is hard !!
oh my...... I think you need 4 of em!!!!! all hooked up all the time run off 1 controller !!!!!! RC Scraper Train!!!
Loved the old intro I had to check the date to make sure
Digging the intro. Good old days.
Man im loving the old intro #rcsparks
THE INTRO THREW ME BACK 😂😂
That intro made my day!
I’ve been watching these dudes for yearsssssssss
I am feeling like a kid in the candy store with these retro openings medic.
When I saw the intro I thought I was on an older video lol love the nostalgia
Don't mess with Big Nellie, lol. Lonin'it
Woah, brought back the OG intro! Nice!
Always enjoy the videos, good entertainment. Cut the highs and fill the lows was the first thing I was told breaking out operating. Thanks for the videos.
So realistic , love the scraper !
For those who may not know, the reason scrapers are pushed by a dozer, instead of being pulled, is because of the difference in speed between the two machines. Scrapers haul material long distances across the jobsite at up to 35mph. With the dozer pushing from behind, it doesn't have to get out of the way once the scraper is full. More efficient = less time = more money.
The loop in front is used to run two scrapers in tandem to combine the tractive power of both, with less need to be pushed by a dozer. On the RC jobsite, efficiency isn't as important, and the site superintendent can run the crews however the hell he wants to, lol.
I titled my video like that to trigger everyone.. and you are so right in how you put it. The last line was the most important.. that, and its an RC ;)
Great job Nelly and welcome to the show brother.👍🏻👊🏻🤟🏻
People: No that's not allowed
Rc sparks: How boit I do it anyway
Wow! This is actually a thing that adults do! As long as you're happy.
Bro.. my entire channel.. it will blow your mind
You lose way too much traction in sand. You'll be impressed with that machine and how good it works in the dirt. Especially with the dozer pushing. You'll love it when you do it! Watching you and all your manly man toys/tools is the highlight of my days during these insane times!
You are hilarious. I run heavy equipment for a living. Would love to play with the line up you have and burn some reefer with you man. Your vids always make me smile
Fuck yeah that intro makes me feel alot younger 😂😂😂🥴🤘🏾
I'm so envious of your life style
Wow just wow merci de me faire vivre le hobby à travers toi
Great. first you got me into rc cars and trucks now I want all the construction equipment.
That scraper is badass
Old school intro the best
Watch out kitty roca! Never liked finding those in my sandbox as a child
mm, love the old school intros rn
Some Serious Equipment for Serious Business.👌👌👌
My only complaint about the scraper is the belly doesnt raise high enough, other than that it is freakin AWESOME! Maybe you could find some longer rams to put on it?
I love watching these kind of things it gives people a good perspective on the scale RC world
Ahh yes legendary intro
Dont dis the pulling method when it works it works, and was working just fine! Beautiful!!!!
Love the old intro
RC sparks road builders. Awesome Video.
Please use the intro all the time again. It’s the best medic ! 🤘🤘
Beautiful !!! scrapers and Dozers are a Ballet of Torque... nailed it
Those units are too cool👍
Please keep that old intro it's amazing
Hello my lovely canadian, keep up the good work!
I like how the dozer looks after you aged it.
So awesome I could watch these all day ..oh wait I have 😂🤘🏾
I've never pulled a scraper with a dozer. Always pushed them. You really need to look up a video of dozers and scrapers. Watch them they are really awesome to watch. Have fun bud. Awesome equipment. 😀👍
You should get the rc4wd warn winch for the back of your dozer
i do love the patina on new old dozer
Friggan awesome looks fun
Sand is the hardest thing to load with a scraper, and makes completely closing the apron difficult if there is a stone in the way, it’s even the case on a full sized rig. Sand is so fine that it’ll fall out what ever opening is there. You should notice that if you ever put it into some clay that even if the apron won’t close all way the clay sort of packs into the opening and keeps the material in the bowl. I was happy to see you were able to get a full load by the end of the video, it would have been disappointing if the model was unable to actually get a full load. I hope you can put it in some clay and give her a nudge from behind sometime to see how the two materials load very different. I hate loading sand with a scraper.
Have now watched this 3 times
You are getting the hang of it. Keep practicing.
The old intro ❤❤
That's the way we always done it! Either pushed or pulled the scrapper with a dozer. And old D-10 to be exact! Never use 2 scrappers. And the company had a fleet of about 15 scrappers! Cool video👍
Man I seen Crazy Joe on #rcathletes love seeing the old gang on there #rcsparks
In the army we would push the scrapers with the dozers
Don't tell people on here how its actually done. Some of them don't like facts. 78 to 83 Seabee heavy equipment operator
'11 to '19 Dirtboy. I let him know how we do it in his last scraper video.
I don't care how you get the scraper moving, people got too much time to complain. If it works, it's right. I still like the dozer the best. Awesome aging job, just a powerhouse !!
Why do "Facts" scare you ?
Muy buenas tardes amigo , realmente estoy impresionado con esa maquinaria todo es perfecto te felicito a ti y a toda tu gente son los mejores
Ah yes. Come home from work and a new RC Sparks video with classic intro! Awesome.
Awesome toys bro!!! Love your vids!!
Nicely done guys
Fuck what others say it’s working. People don’t realize how big these are until it arrives in a big ass box. Because of you I’ve been acquiring a fleet of vehicles to share with my friends. Will be starting a you tube channel soon. Thx for all the inspiration to get back into rc.
Great work
This f%cking Intro reminds me of being in the house watchin TH-cam as much as possible and now I’m gettin paid to watch this 😂 19 years old in a plant
Love it!
I get a woody just watching those trucks
I loved watching his 6/6 truck. the tires makes it look so mean
I just found your channel and i am so glad i did. Thank you for giving me something to be excited to watch. 🤩
Ohhhh DJ, there is sooo much stuff to laugh at and discover on my channel. I did 2 spin off's of the Gold mining shows called "TH-cam GOLD", and a different one, 5000kms away called "GOLD".. similar.. but very different. You may like those shows.
Yes sir we call them PANS and the Dozer pushes from behind... way easier I'm also a dozer operator love your videos brother
Yo omg this is the earliest I’ve ever been it would mean so much if you replyed
I thought i was recommend an old video but than i saw the gray beard
Thank you for this content love it love it be you man.
What up RC world
You're getting way better with the scraper! And for all the people saying "your" wrong, it's "YOU'RE" which makes them wrong !! lol
Scraper🙄
@@SwampersRC nice catch!
Nice edit👍
Get a road miller that would be cool to see aginst some gravel and or concrete
I watch one of those in Virginia Beach repairing the beach from the storm damage and they were pushing it with a front end loader