For me it's the other way around. I wake up around the time his videos come online so they are the first vids that run on my third screen when I start working.
Hey T90, I actually enjoy seeing the chat and you interacting with them a lot in your stream vids! I work a busy schedule, so I can’t watch the streams often, but being able to see the chat and you interacting with them and stuff makes me feel like I’m not missing out.
Red had so long to prepare after seeing that many massed monks, and he made 18 light cav? Against 20-30 monks + pikes + siege? Thank goodness he used all that extra time to make more villagers and boom more
@@saiashwin26 he did know. At a couple of times he was able to see that there was at least a dozen monks, which is a good indication that there was more to come, and he chosed to boom instead of massing light cav, even when light cav is very cheap and if massed highly effective against monks; he stuck to what, 15 at a time?
Fire's light cav needing to jump on Modri's monk army early is just like Star Craft Brood War when Zerg and Protoss need to just throw unit after unit at Siege Tank armies to keep them from getting too huge to stop.
Red didn't optimise his eco at all. He had no idea what was going on. I was hoping for a second castle which he could have easily placed with his excess stone and treb the monks out of their range or something. He was clearly bamboozled by that many monks.
The scout line requires a minimum of 10 conversion attempts before it will allow a conversion. Every other convert-able unit is pure RNG. The only other rule is a conversion is guaranteed on the 20th failed RNG. That one applies to all including scout line.
I couldn't help thinking that building mass skirmishers against mass monks would have been a better choice especially if you have the better economy. After all, they can only convert one unit each and skirmishers are less effective against themselves than light cavalry are.
Awww, don't leave out twitch chat! Knowing that the cartoon terrier of possible demonetization is snapping its teeth in the corner of the video makes the experience just that much more "interactive"! Plus we get warnings for T90 being blind, farms, salmon, and strategic 3 archery range islands!
Seeing this reminds me of playing Red Alert 2 and just hiding Yuri's around my base in tricky to see spots, like behind buildings, trees, walls, etc, and then the opponent waltzing in only for their armies to start turning on themselves 🤣🤣
Fire_de had so many good chances to engage against those monks, but kept backing off. It was painful to watch as he kept letting it spiral further out of control. ^^;
He was hoping to catch Modri while he was looking at his eco, but Modri always reacted nearly instantly. Fire_de was correctly dodging losing engagements. Those monk conversions come in faster than you'd expect. Fire_de should not have invested in armor or pikes, and probably should have gone for heresy, but monk pushes are difficult to play against, and it's easy to second-guess the pros after they lose.
It seems to me like red sholdve gone onager and skirms to attack at distance. I think at that point he was heavily committed to scouts to think laterally
fire_de aka [pG]fire aka Andrew Regendantz was the best German (well actually he's Australian) Age of Empires player back in the days around 2000-2004. Among other things, he qualified for the WCGC in 2000 (probably one of the youngest players back then), twice for the WCG 2001 and 2002 in AoE2 (reaching quarters each team I believe), won the AoM WCG in 2003 before then eventually switching over to WC3 where he was also quite successful for sk mid 2000s. you can even watch him winning the WCG on youtube here: th-cam.com/video/MHpbotvd9PM/w-d-xo.html So in terms of history, definitely one of the best AoE2 players up there
Fire_de was really struggling for food. He built a stable, 2 monasteries, and a town center, and that left little wood for farms to feed all those scouts and villagers. You can watch him struggle to keep up production in the top left corner.
I think there are a lot of people around here that think Goth spam outproduces a monk rush. Actually I think the monk player has the advantage on 1v1 arena. I used to be an arena player and I can remember one game where I was Britons vs Goths. I imagine him thinking:´´ I boom and I outspamm easy points!´´. My opponent did not like monks in the end of that game. I also was monk rushed once as Goths by Saracens, which did not go well for me either.
>makes light cav >too many monks, what do? >makes halberds? it plays out like the meme comic where the guy's riding a bike and shoves a stick into his own spokes
I'm no where close to an AoE expert on how much things costs or strategies but...it looked like red wasn't trying do anything military wise. He's stockpiling wood and gold into the 1000s while he's being attacked and having buildings destroyed. Why did he not also get heresy so his units would die as well also?..
Why didn't Fire drop 2 stables instead of 2 monasteries and prevent modri to reach the unbeatable comp of halbs and 40 monks?. He could have taken favourable engagements in the early stages with greater scout numbers. He should have stayed 1 TC IMHO.
During one of your recent videos I fell asleep. And apperently so did the player as you started shouting hello? hellooo? heeelllooooooo? which woke me up. Literrally unwachtable.
The time of light cav was over when modri brought pointy bois. 15 light cav earlier would have stop this snow ball. Maybe a low elo would have been the counter XD
Just tried that at just 1k elo, the other guy held well and responded correctly so I cheated by adding some pikes then leitis. But 13m48 castle age with monks pumping out so fast is really fun. At some point I also bought like 800 food to get to imp. Anyway, I normally hate arena but it can be fun to go full clown strat
I think throwing three times more pointy boys than there are monks would have been a good strategy before there was a castle. They can convert one but the remaining two will can deal with the converted and the monk. Disrupting the monk supply line with some sparse horse riders could also have been useful.
Red eco has been unbalanced pretty much all game, I feel like it's the main reason he lost. At 40min, he has double the eco of blue with over 100 vills but almost half of them on wood... He should have put them on food and spam light cav a long long time ago (it's way too late when he realises I think) XD (yes, I know, easier said than done when under pressure, but it's still the right move)
I understand for you T90 that it is saver to upload content to TH-cam without the Twitch chat. However, as someone who doesn't always has the time to watch you on Twitch that chat always gives some extra humor to the video's. I missed Twitch chat :(
Honestly, I really enjoy watching stuff on TH-cam that came straight from your stream. Personally, I don't think you need any "TH-cam specific" content.
This is tilting me just watching it. If fire had just gone all light cav instead of building just 6 he could have wrecked the monks early but by the time the castles come up it was over.
is it just me or did red royaly fuck up? if he made some more light cavs in castle age and started going aggressive he might have been able to stop this. 4 more light cavs would make every trade worth it, blue loses 100 gold per unit, a resources that is not infinite while red only loses a renewable resource. the army he had in the end should have been in castle age. memes and cheese gotta be combated with memes and cheese
Did he really need a super fast castle age for that? Wouldn't it be even better, at least in arena, to just focus on getting a good economy first and then make the monks. When the opponent doesn't know you go for monks, with lithuanians he will likely go knights in castle age and the first monks would be perfect to destroy the first assault, especially with the defender's advantage.. Btw fast Feudal for eco upgrades doesn't pay off. It's more efficient to keep producing villagers until you have around 30-35, before eco upgrade become more efficient.
26:10 there's a sad face blinking in the minimap, which probably sums up red's feelings this game.
lmfao
omg this is so perfect
you are a legend dude lol
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I saw this comment and this thing literally popped up at the exact same time.
"You can't get armor against God"
God is going to get you
Clearly he hasn't learned of 'Faith', or familiar with TEUTOOOOOOONS!
Kyrie Eleison!
@@pathofbelisarius9709 lol!
Whats a god to a non believer?
Damn he really went full Yololoo.
You forgot an O (wololoo)🤣
lmao good one
@@Shlonzs good catch, edited appropriately
Hahahahahha!!!!
T90 : imagine how helpless you feel against this.
Me : you know, I feel helpless whenever the enemy makes army
"NOOOOO, my perfect city, with it's perfect layout."
@@BlaDeKke my ocd says yes
I feel like this is something your older brother does to you after you’ve just started playing and he’s a veteran. No mercy. 😂
Look at me. I am the older brother now.
I thought the correct response was to hit alt F4 cause ain’t no one want to deal with that.
"It's turned into a team game!" LOL
T90: (shows blue base) This is the economy that won the game.
No it wasn't, red's economy won the game for blue. Lol.
@@matthewpopow6647 😂😂😂💀💀💀
Love how you know that we fall asleep to your videos lmao
Why does he screams "Moreee monks! Moree mooonks!" Like a madman, and two seconds later calm as ice.
For me it's the other way around. I wake up around the time his videos come online so they are the first vids that run on my third screen when I start working.
That's what I literally just did tonight and I had to rewatch XD
@@le0fonzagoric164 because he is the king of cringe :D
@@joedjudge stfu hater 😅
Hey T90, I actually enjoy seeing the chat and you interacting with them a lot in your stream vids! I work a busy schedule, so I can’t watch the streams often, but being able to see the chat and you interacting with them and stuff makes me feel like I’m not missing out.
agreed T90 chat is so wholesome compared to other Twitch chats 11
@@Real_MisterSir shut up
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I'd appreciate a visual mod that replaces monesteries with circuses and monks with clowns. That would be... suitable. X)
Fire_de is from Germany and was also a professional Warcraft 3 - Player. I think he played for SK Gaming in like 2005ish
I’d swap to AoE too. Warcraft is dead and buried at this point.
Thanks, I wondered why this name sounds so familiar!
Well that checks out because this game definitely feels Nili man...
@@SchrodingerMil Ironically, killed by it's OWN "Definitive Edition"
Red had so long to prepare after seeing that many massed monks, and he made 18 light cav? Against 20-30 monks + pikes + siege? Thank goodness he used all that extra time to make more villagers and boom more
yeah all I could think was make some more light cav, come on think fire_de think!
He didn’t know he had so many monks. It’s very easy to judge when you spectate and have an omnipotent view.
@@saiashwin26 indeed vro
@@saiashwin26 he did know. At a couple of times he was able to see that there was at least a dozen monks, which is a good indication that there was more to come, and he chosed to boom instead of massing light cav, even when light cav is very cheap and if massed highly effective against monks; he stuck to what, 15 at a time?
23:35 the moment red gets so tired of monks he delets his own
Fire's light cav needing to jump on Modri's monk army early is just like Star Craft Brood War when Zerg and Protoss need to just throw unit after unit at Siege Tank armies to keep them from getting too huge to stop.
Red didn't optimise his eco at all. He had no idea what was going on. I was hoping for a second castle which he could have easily placed with his excess stone and treb the monks out of their range or something.
He was clearly bamboozled by that many monks.
To everyone reading this: May your conversions be lucky ones.
WOLOLOOOOO
The scout line requires a minimum of 10 conversion attempts before it will allow a conversion. Every other convert-able unit is pure RNG. The only other rule is a conversion is guaranteed on the 20th failed RNG. That one applies to all including scout line.
Im happy my ELO is shitty enough I don't have to deal with this lol
I couldn't help thinking that building mass skirmishers against mass monks would have been a better choice especially if you have the better economy. After all, they can only convert one unit each and skirmishers are less effective against themselves than light cavalry are.
the main problem with that is range and speed.
Awww, don't leave out twitch chat!
Knowing that the cartoon terrier of possible demonetization is snapping its teeth in the corner of the video makes the experience just that much more "interactive"!
Plus we get warnings for T90 being blind, farms, salmon, and strategic 3 archery range islands!
i 2nd this, i think twitch chat is too valuable to leave it out.
Seeing this reminds me of playing Red Alert 2 and just hiding Yuri's around my base in tricky to see spots, like behind buildings, trees, walls, etc, and then the opponent waltzing in only for their armies to start turning on themselves 🤣🤣
A mangonel shot at that monk behind pallisades garrisoning would have been sooo satisfying
Loved the commentary at the very end when you say red eco is working for blue. It's a team game now lmao.
This is exactly how i played it when this game first came out, a squat of Monks with light cav and a trebuchet - worked wonders
He went Yololo with the Wololo to be a Trololo
Realizing at the end of the game that they both had the same civ with this outcome was mind-blowing
“Dont let youtube know your here chat” as we all witness him get rid of them😂
He should have used either cavalry archer or onagers. Send a dozen onagers over, 2-3 hits its game over for the monks.
Nice seeing this TH-cam-exclusive content, never before shown on Twitch
Fire_de had so many good chances to engage against those monks, but kept backing off. It was painful to watch as he kept letting it spiral further out of control. ^^;
He was hoping to catch Modri while he was looking at his eco, but Modri always reacted nearly instantly. Fire_de was correctly dodging losing engagements. Those monk conversions come in faster than you'd expect.
Fire_de should not have invested in armor or pikes, and probably should have gone for heresy, but monk pushes are difficult to play against, and it's easy to second-guess the pros after they lose.
Drunk t90's math is impeccable😂😂 11
24:10 Modri is dishing out some 2005 memes "ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO US!"
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if MbL suddenly cried out in terror
Fire lost like I usually do: due to underproducing. He had the res and time to make an army of 50+ xbow to clear that up and instawin.
this was sheer clownery and i loved it
12:23 woolooloo 😂😂😂😂
It seems to me like red sholdve gone onager and skirms to attack at distance. I think at that point he was heavily committed to scouts to think laterally
Not only a very interesting game but also your comedy factor this video was awesome, had some good laughs :) keep it up
Took a hiatus after playing this when I was in grade 5 or so since the Xbox port. My God, this works so well :D
fire_de aka [pG]fire aka Andrew Regendantz was the best German (well actually he's Australian) Age of Empires player back in the days around 2000-2004. Among other things, he qualified for the WCGC in 2000 (probably one of the youngest players back then), twice for the WCG 2001 and 2002 in AoE2 (reaching quarters each team I believe), won the AoM WCG in 2003 before then eventually switching over to WC3 where he was also quite successful for sk mid 2000s.
you can even watch him winning the WCG on youtube here: th-cam.com/video/MHpbotvd9PM/w-d-xo.html
So in terms of history, definitely one of the best AoE2 players up there
True story!
Just watched Feitoria rush vid and now millimonk strats LETS GOOOOOOO T90 dont stop you da MAN LETS GOOOOOOO
I fell like I am busted when T90 mentions that people watch his videos to fall asleep. :D
I don't mind the bloopers 🤣👌 love your coverage on these games
25:58 Flashing minimap face expressing how red feels
just how hurt he sounded when he said "fall asleep to my videos, is okay" made me laugh out loud. Damn Tristan , I love this guy.
Why do the Lithuanian monks talk so sensually?
I dont mean to fall asleep, but I rewatch it when I wake up haha
Absolutely loved your casting on this one
just when you think you ran outa crap to watch on youtube the almighty algorithm get you hooked again
I for sure would not cope well with this. But knowing all the info and looking back with hindsight; why didn’t firede make more light cav than 6 or 8?
My guess is that he was trying to boom with two TCs spamming villagers, so basically no food to spare.
Fire_de was really struggling for food. He built a stable, 2 monasteries, and a town center, and that left little wood for farms to feed all those scouts and villagers. You can watch him struggle to keep up production in the top left corner.
I think there are a lot of people around here that think Goth spam outproduces a monk rush. Actually I think the monk player has the advantage on 1v1 arena.
I used to be an arena player and I can remember one game where I was Britons vs Goths. I imagine him thinking:´´ I boom and I outspamm easy points!´´. My opponent did not like monks in the end of that game. I also was monk rushed once as Goths by Saracens, which did not go well for me either.
>makes light cav
>too many monks, what do?
>makes halberds?
it plays out like the meme comic where the guy's riding a bike and shoves a stick into his own spokes
I'm no where close to an AoE expert on how much things costs or strategies but...it looked like red wasn't trying do anything military wise. He's stockpiling wood and gold into the 1000s while he's being attacked and having buildings destroyed. Why did he not also get heresy so his units would die as well also?..
Why didn't Fire drop 2 stables instead of 2 monasteries and prevent modri to reach the unbeatable comp of halbs and 40 monks?. He could have taken favourable engagements in the early stages with greater scout numbers. He should have stayed 1 TC IMHO.
Wouldnt heresy for red, have been a descent counter, since then all the troops wouldnt switch hands
I dont play aoe2 since the early 2000s but i damn sure watch it! Most dominating game everp
Actually fell asleep to a LEL video earlier today, was an excellent experience. Would recommend
Imagine being forced to play against that clownage
Imagine making mangonels
@@Thomas1238fedor yeah, imagine giving blue free mangonels
Red needed onagers and commit to more army (light cav.) I think he was afraid of overcommiting.
When i first played aoe2 in the 90's this was how we always played, we knew monks were the meta.
I like chat, and I like youtube only videos. This wasn't either, but it was both at same time.
T90 makes a game I barely played, am not good at, very entertaining. Good caster.
"This is the Eco that won the game" i cant stress enough how funny it is you keep saying that. :D
red needed to sneak a mongonel or 3 to flank the monks when he attacked
16:28 hey T90 that is the new box formation to protect your monks ✌🏻🙃😂
Haven’t you heard of that?
This game was absolutely brutal. I would have been SO tilted in red's position!
During one of your recent videos I fell asleep. And apperently so did the player as you started shouting hello? hellooo? heeelllooooooo? which woke me up.
Literrally unwachtable.
13:08 Murmansk!!
This is probably my favorite match so far
The time of light cav was over when modri brought pointy bois.
15 light cav earlier would have stop this snow ball.
Maybe a low elo would have been the counter XD
I was expecting 100 monks instantly converting enemy armies and healing instantly
But video was still amazing
Just tried that at just 1k elo, the other guy held well and responded correctly so I cheated by adding some pikes then leitis. But 13m48 castle age with monks pumping out so fast is really fun. At some point I also bought like 800 food to get to imp. Anyway, I normally hate arena but it can be fun to go full clown strat
Ahhh, thank you T90 !!! 🙏 What a GREAT game! 👍
I do really enjoy watching players try a new strategy. This is superb! 💎😃
I think throwing three times more pointy boys than there are monks would have been a good strategy before there was a castle. They can convert one but the remaining two will can deal with the converted and the monk. Disrupting the monk supply line with some sparse horse riders could also have been useful.
Them: "Wololooo"
Me: "Wololooo"
You: "Wololooo"
Us: "Wololooo"
Get better soon big fella.
Red eco has been unbalanced pretty much all game, I feel like it's the main reason he lost. At 40min, he has double the eco of blue with over 100 vills but almost half of them on wood... He should have put them on food and spam light cav a long long time ago (it's way too late when he realises I think) XD
(yes, I know, easier said than done when under pressure, but it's still the right move)
I actually hoped mid imp after the relic heist that red could push back and a new phase fair fight would begin of 1tc & 5 relics vs 4(?)tc & 0relic
aoe 2 de yt tutorial: how to extinguish fire with the sheer willpower of god
TH-cam forgives all T90. Thanks for making one for the common folk!
I will always feel call out when a youtuber knows that I fall asleep to its videos
What a wild game! I love the freedom we have for different strategies in today's meta.
Wouldn’t onagers and light cavalry be the play to counter that army of monks?
Do you think going maybe xbow would be better? They can snipe monks a bit easier due to range I think.
I understand for you T90 that it is saver to upload content to TH-cam without the Twitch chat. However, as someone who doesn't always has the time to watch you on Twitch that chat always gives some extra humor to the video's. I missed Twitch chat :(
"Monk! I need a monk!"
What I don't get is why not just make some light cav with some crossbows/magonell and kill off the monks instead of making your own monk army.
More people should use this strategy. The cost/benefit ratio is worth it. Make one unit, convert another.
i actually do sleep to these videos though lol
Watching this at 5 am before work
Honestly, I really enjoy watching stuff on TH-cam that came straight from your stream. Personally, I don't think you need any "TH-cam specific" content.
I pray you are well T90 and that you are healing quickly from Covid. Take Care. We love you
This is tilting me just watching it. If fire had just gone all light cav instead of building just 6 he could have wrecked the monks early but by the time the castles come up it was over.
Lmao this was so epic I didn’t even sleep while watching it
“He has the score lead, he has the population lead”... but he doesn’t have the wolololead
is it just me or did red royaly fuck up? if he made some more light cavs in castle age and started going aggressive he might have been able to stop this. 4 more light cavs would make every trade worth it, blue loses 100 gold per unit, a resources that is not infinite while red only loses a renewable resource. the army he had in the end should have been in castle age. memes and cheese gotta be combated with memes and cheese
I actually like reading chat on your video. please keep them for future vids
A little disappointed this wasn't called the Million Monk March
Did he really need a super fast castle age for that? Wouldn't it be even better, at least in arena, to just focus on getting a good economy first and then make the monks. When the opponent doesn't know you go for monks, with lithuanians he will likely go knights in castle age and the first monks would be perfect to destroy the first assault, especially with the defender's advantage..
Btw fast Feudal for eco upgrades doesn't pay off. It's more efficient to keep producing villagers until you have around 30-35, before eco upgrade become more efficient.
VULULU, VULULU
When modri sends the one monk in to try to convert the treb though LOL
I think you should make a series called *player's* Million *units* , Viper had one, you can add this one and make more in the future