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This channel , the operations room and showtime112 are my saturday morning cartoons as an adult . Thank you for your hard work and research about these battles and the experience of both sides of the wars.
Giffen was a veteran commander, having participated in Operation Torch back in November, but had only just recently arrived in the Pacific theatre, and therefore had no experience on how to counter Japanese aerial tactics. And with daylight fading, he never expected to encounter Japanese aircraft this far south, thinking that the only threat he had to worry about, came from Japanese submarines. It was a victory for the Japanese, but those lost elite pilots would be dearly missed, and hard to replace.
your well researched, editied content was sublime..narration was impeccable..and more important..paying homage to all of the warriors who gave their all in horrific conditions..may all of them..RIP..
Fantastic work! Up next, I'd suggest the Central Solomons campaigns... Operation Vengeance, battles of Kolombangara, Kula Gulf, Vella Gulf, Vella LaVella, the sinking of John F. Kennedy's PT-109 and their men's rescue... Then the Northern Solomons... Battle of Empress Augusta Bay, among several others... But before those, the Aleutian Islands campaign, with the Battle of the Komandorski Islands and the action around Attu & Kiska islands.
Thanks again for another virtual view of these battles. Growing up it was like: Are you a auditory learner or a visual learner? And yes, the latter, but visual maps are best! I've only discovered this recently.
I enjoyed this video very much, nicely put together. I especially wanted to say I like how you placed it in context with the Nazi 6th army defeat. How all that was going on at the same time really made it more interesting. New Sub
Giffen was lacked any tactical sense. He was new to the theater and and would not take advice from experienced captains. Giffen also had issue with Halsey's style of command and his decisions on lack uniform appearance in theater. Giffen expected those under his command to wear ties and have pressed uniforms at all times.
Japan came out ahead of us in at least two more surface ship battles in the Solomans and completed their missions of landing reinforcements and supplying troops on contested islands in the Slot area . . . Kula Gulf July 6 of '43 and Kolumbangara about a week and a half later. They lose a couple destroyers we lose or have to drydock Cruisers . . . No more Cruisers for us for awhile in the Pacific. Plus they sink a brand new Fletcher Class Destroyer, USS Strong, with a record 11 nautical mile hit with a type 93 Long Lance torpedo the Night before Kula Gulf. All on the tenure of the replacement for Carlton Wright, Admiral Ainsworth . . . Learning on the job, losing Cruisers and overclaiming kills as per tradition. I believe those will be the last wins for the IJN.
@@kenneth9874 Once you're using destroyers at night for troop transport and supply you're fighting a losing war. This particular video was about an evacuation that they pulled off despite our attempt to interdict. We were winning but some of our Admiral task force commanders got schooled along the way in night surface ship battles which is when an adversary that has lost control of the Air and Sea have to operate. Destroyers drilling in night fighting is about the only prescient thing the IJN did. Somebody in the IJN must've considered worst case scenario after all. What I'd like to hear about is the Battle of Empress Augusta Bay when competent Destroyer Captains get to practice the art of night surface battle without some hand-me-down appointee Admiral having to be trained on the job. Veteran Destroyer captains will take over in the tight confines of the Solomans after the Heavy Cruisers are sunk or in drydock and the IJN won't win another night surface battle . . . After Kolumbangara. So far my favorite video on the Battle of Empress Augusta Bay has been "Unauthorized History of the Pacific War"
How about a video regarding the Swedish ship that transported Japanese embassy staff from the US to Japan and returned carrying the US embassy staff from Japan back to the US? I have never been able to find much information about this logistical nightmare.
All those videos show 1 thing..America won the pacific battle MODTLY because of radar. That, and the decription of japanese messages and the USA industrial might.
It seam useless to fight for all these islands… And it seam very stupid not to have coordenation between land and sea forces at Guadalcanal… is it true? And it always seam that american generals didn’t care much about their soldiers, sending them to fierce fights without recon, and lack of support. Were they as bad as it seam?
The were coordinated at one point but the battle of Salvo Island put an end to that coordination. The IJN kicked the crap out of the US Navy in that battle and they decided to pull the invasion fleet out of the area to protect their capital ships. That's why task forces had to come from the south to patrol the area. Plus, they did not want to expose the carriers to enemy attack since at this point in the war there were only a few of them.
@@irafair3015 Thank you! But in fact they did not. A large supremacy of great numbers would be the key. And carriers would be exactely what would make them win those batles... Carriers a few miles away would provide the air support. It seams not a good strategy. probably they were very wrong.
@@pedrokarstguimaraes2817that wouldn't have done very much at night. Night carrier operations come later. You need land-based night fighters on Guadalcanal. They can cover the area of far more.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Thank you! I see... Those boys at Guadalcanal were convicts in those circunstances. If the Navy could not support them, it was like "a bridge too far"...
This skirmish actually progressed the retreat of Japan. Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat is one way to record the evacuation of Guadalcanal. Churchill successfully sold Dunkirk as a moral victory but in reality it was a major blow to British prestige. The real and present danger of the Wehrmacht being 20 miles away in Calais was very alarming. The withdrawal of Japanese troops was the slippery slope for Hirohito. General Tojo argued that it was strategic rather than a setback. History knows better as it being the beginning of the end or as Churchill quipped the end of the beginning even though the US lost a destroyer. It’s interesting Enterprise continued its luck and shows that the top heavy Japanese Navy had no room for initiative when overlooking the opportunity of sinking her with a strike force that was more intent on sinking a lesser important target. The cost to the airforce shows how attrition was eating away at 200 million or so Japanese who prepared so diligently but still maintained rigid hierarchies resulting in large amounts of disadvantaged peoples who could not advance in their stratified society.
They were all "starvation islands' and yet tens of thousands of young Americans were thrown into meatgrinder after meatgrinder for no reason at all. All they had to do was wait them out a few months until they were so decimated by starvation that mopping them up would have been a simple and relatively safe endeavor. Our growing superiority at sea and in the air assured all Japanese ground forces would be prevented supply, each island group in turn, but for a little patience by American commanders. Instead many letters to begrieved mothers were written and sent stateside. Why? ..
what the fuck? and you think the US had intelligence on this beforehand? the US needed a counteroffensive fast before logistics and a proper island chain defense couldve been established by the japanese for the absolute nightmare of logistics fielding so many different cartridges and supplies to its soldiers japan did the best they could, the entire reason the IJN wanted to knock out the pacific fleet at pearl harbour was to buy time for the southern defenses to be shored up your kind of thinking of "waiting for a supposedly impoverished incompetent empire to shrivel up" would have killed thousands more lives, by the start of guadalcanal we had NO air or SEA superiority against the IJN or IJA go read a book
@@kulot-ki1tu I'm speaking primarily about the middle to the end of the war. At first things were different although yes the USA didn't need to occupy Guadalcanal prior to its capitulation. Even in January of 1942 the USA knew it would eventually win the war of attrition. The USA already had several carriers being built while the Japanese could not in any way match that capacity. The USA knew it would gain an overwhelming superiority of forces beginning in 1943. Even so, in 1942 Japan was at its limits to its expansion. Australia was NOT under threat nor was the "supply line" between the USA and Australia in any real danger. Port Moresby was never under any actual threat. Early on the USA was aware that the Japanese could not support their ground forces with supply. This was made abundantly clear with the pullout of Japan from Guadalcanal. Nevertheless, in island group after island group subsequent to Guadalcanal, as the USA advanced, brave young men were needlessly thrown away for no defensible reason. All the USA had to do was establish local sea and air superiority and starve the ground forces into oblivion. Only after achieving that objective should our ground forces have been deployed. There was absolutely no justification for the deaths of 90% of our ground forces in the Pacific theater. ..
@@MrDavePed some of the island hopping campaigns were unneccessary but this would have prolonged the war you clearly have a lack of knowledge regarding how potent the IJN was even past midway, saying shit like "just spam carriers" doesnt cut it, it wouldnt have just prolonged the suffering of literally everyone in occupied asia but the japanese easily could have lived off the land, established defensive positions and now you wouldve had an even worse meat grinder that wouldve made okinawa / iwo jima look like a joke their logistical doctrine is a mix of living off the land and supplements, this is no different from when air force advocates thought that bombing a nation to submission rendered ground forces obsolete which is utterly false you are speaking from such insane hindsight and hubris to think that the US thought japan was on its last legs by 1942, it was sure by 1944 but even then the japanese didnt have an issue with carrier production, it was the valuable pilots lost at guadalcanal which was the issue nobody in the US general staff thought they were going to win in 1942 because they were too busy trying to do it without sitting in an armchair talking about it 82 years later, this perception is only from a modern understanding of the situation at the time, not from the period itself think how many more hundreds of thousands of occupied civilians would have been killed if imperial japan was allowed to dig in and solidify its territorial gains
@@kulot-ki1tu Every island the USA "liberated" bore abundant evidence of Japanese troop starvation. Waiting three months at each island group for the bulk of enemy forces to starve would have only set back the entire schedule by a total of 100 days. Forty thousand US troops could have been saved by simply waiting for the starvation to do the inevitable job of making short work of the local enemy forces. ..
@@MrDavePed jesus you're not even properly evaluating the IJA as a fighting force properly im willing to bet that 100 days figure was made with like zero references to japanese sources and only poor postwar analysis using primarily US sources, like the majority of the pacific theatre which has given way to so much misinterpretations of the japanese as a fighting force i can guarantee it would take more than 100 days to delay the defeat of the japanese, you are vastly overexaggerating the effects of starvation while completely ignoring that it was only partly triggered by the campaign against merchant shipping plus the zero regard and urgency to liberate literally anyone else, japan wouldnt have starved in 100 days and wouldve continued to massacre more people in its sphere, if you want examples of longevity of forces the best example would be the fact that rabaul stood until the end of the war despite being well bypassed, and the garrison remaining a semi effective fighting force through foraging
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This channel , the operations room and showtime112 are my saturday morning cartoons as an adult . Thank you for your hard work and research about these battles and the experience of both sides of the wars.
I should upload on Friday eve so you have the episodes in time for breakfast!
Same brother
@@HoH That would be awesome, My four year old watches these with me when we eat our breakfast on Saturdays
@@BrandonN3496 Sounds like you have a future historian on your hands.
Thank you for introducing me to showtime112!! Some other good ones are TJ3 History and Yarnhub. They also make amazing military content.
I enjoy the details of a particular small engagement that overall history would skip by - keep up the good work.
Delightful video. Well written, engaging animation with a musical score that enhances the narration. This is quality work.
Thank you for the kind words, Ollie!
Not sure I have ever heard of this engagement, thanks a lot for another very educating video!
Please, please god let this channel grow. We need voices and stories of the past, so those that lived them never truly die.
Nicely animated, clear, pleasant and concise narration. 👍🏻
Thank you kindly!
Giffen was a veteran commander, having participated in Operation Torch back in November, but had only just recently arrived in the Pacific theatre, and therefore had no experience on how to counter Japanese aerial tactics. And with daylight fading, he never expected to encounter Japanese aircraft this far south, thinking that the only threat he had to worry about, came from Japanese submarines.
It was a victory for the Japanese, but those lost elite pilots would be dearly missed, and hard to replace.
your well researched, editied content was sublime..narration was impeccable..and more important..paying homage to all of the warriors who gave their all in horrific conditions..may all of them..RIP..
Thank you for the kind words.
As a military history student, I absolutely love your work, many thanks for all you time and effort into producing these fantastic videos!
I heard that that Japanese evacuation of Guadalcanal was very much like Dunkirk. Now I'm quite sure of it. Great video.
Except the British Rescued 300,000 soldiers
@@markdavids2511---I didn't say it was just as big. Just that it had a lot of similarities.
I love the pacific war stories. i wish we could get an upload every day.
Thanks For this! Never miss a video
Amazing video as always!
Another quality video. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
Our treaty cruisers suffered heavily for holding the line in the early days.
We forgot about night fighting
Think I got to a minute before an ad kicked in 😮
Great upload and really interesting. Thanks 😉
Fantastic work! Up next, I'd suggest the Central Solomons campaigns... Operation Vengeance, battles of Kolombangara, Kula Gulf, Vella Gulf, Vella LaVella, the sinking of John F. Kennedy's PT-109 and their men's rescue... Then the Northern Solomons... Battle of Empress Augusta Bay, among several others... But before those, the Aleutian Islands campaign, with the Battle of the Komandorski Islands and the action around Attu & Kiska islands.
Thanks, great suggestions! First is the Battle of the Coral Sea & Midway, in detail, though!
@@HoH Excellent choices! I'm looking forward to watching them!
Thanks again for another virtual view of these battles. Growing up it was like: Are you a auditory learner or a visual learner? And yes, the latter, but visual maps are best! I've only discovered this recently.
I enjoyed this video very much, nicely put together. I especially wanted to say I like how you placed it in context with the Nazi 6th army defeat. How all that was going on at the same time really made it more interesting. New Sub
Thanks for posting this video that I requested a few months back. Keep up the good work, man.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Very well done - quite objective and straight to the point of FACT!
Thank you,
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Saturdays are always made better with your videos! Thanks 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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Giffen was lacked any tactical sense.
He was new to the theater and and would not take advice from experienced captains.
Giffen also had issue with Halsey's style of command and his decisions on lack uniform appearance in theater. Giffen expected those under his command to wear ties and have pressed uniforms at all times.
I think the issue is not uniforms; but rather not having Guadalcanal providing night fighter protection. And that is not on him.
I always learn from your postings and anxiously await your next. Thank you for all that you do!
Thanks for the kind words, Daniel!
Great video, as usual!
It was a wonderful historical coverage video shared by an amazing ( house of history) channel. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for the video!
thank you for your work!
Yayyy! Been waiting for this one for a while thank you!!
animation is beautiful i dunno why u dont get more views
Brilliantly done, thanks again. 🙏🇬🇧📚☘️🇺🇸
Incredible, the Japanese could still give the Americans a bloody nose even after major defeat at Guadalcanal campaign.
They were tenacious and courageous, I'll leave it there.
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Thank you very much!
thanks!
Japan came out ahead of us in at least two more surface ship battles in the Solomans and completed their missions of landing reinforcements and supplying troops on contested islands in the Slot area . . . Kula Gulf July 6 of '43 and Kolumbangara about a week and a half later. They lose a couple destroyers we lose or have to drydock Cruisers . . . No more Cruisers for us for awhile in the Pacific. Plus they sink a brand new Fletcher Class Destroyer, USS Strong, with a record 11 nautical mile hit with a type 93 Long Lance torpedo the Night before Kula Gulf. All on the tenure of the replacement for Carlton Wright, Admiral Ainsworth . . . Learning on the job, losing Cruisers and overclaiming kills as per tradition. I believe those will be the last wins for the IJN.
Is that why the japanese troops were starving...?
@@kenneth9874 Once you're using destroyers at night for troop transport and supply you're fighting a losing war. This particular video was about an evacuation that they pulled off despite our attempt to interdict. We were winning but some of our Admiral task force commanders got schooled along the way in night surface ship battles which is when an adversary that has lost control of the Air and Sea have to operate. Destroyers drilling in night fighting is about the only prescient thing the IJN did. Somebody in the IJN must've considered worst case scenario after all. What I'd like to hear about is the Battle of Empress Augusta Bay when competent Destroyer Captains get to practice the art of night surface battle without some hand-me-down appointee Admiral having to be trained on the job. Veteran Destroyer captains will take over in the tight confines of the Solomans after the Heavy Cruisers are sunk or in drydock and the IJN won't win another night surface battle . . . After Kolumbangara. So far my favorite video on the Battle of Empress Augusta Bay has been "Unauthorized History of the Pacific War"
Thank goodness they didn't go for the Enterprise, it would have just added another few kills and flag or two for her.
Love this chanel!
Overall good video. The Chenango & Swanee were Escort Carriers not Auxillary Carriers..difference between the 2
Fantastico renell..... Respect from Vietnam.... Allahu akhbar
Love to see a vid on the ww2 service of Hms Hood, not just her demise by Bismarck.
Could I ask if next video or one soon you could do battle of the komadorski islands soon?
How about a video regarding the Swedish ship that transported Japanese embassy staff from the US to Japan and returned carrying the US embassy staff from Japan back to the US? I have never been able to find much information about this logistical nightmare.
Around 6:30 you say that the cruisers use proximity fuzes, but as far as I can determine, they weren't used until 1944?
Good work. You get an A-.That way there is still room for improvement. Can you tell I am a former teacher...
Why would the Japanese bombers ignore the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise to attack an already damaged cruiser? Doesn't make sense.
The attack force received incorrect coordinates and failed to locate the Big E.
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I like the content. But the narrator voice is hard for me to hear. I assume the narrator is computer generated? Maybe try a higher pitch or something?
Sound is fine. Might want clear the ear wax a bit?
@@WALTERBROADDUS Well, I'm comparing to the Operations Room which seems far better
All those videos show 1 thing..America won the pacific battle MODTLY because of radar. That, and the decription of japanese messages and the USA industrial might.
Forecastle = fohk sul
Good work otherwise
It seam useless to fight for all these islands…
And it seam very stupid not to have coordenation between land and sea forces at Guadalcanal… is it true?
And it always seam that american generals didn’t care much about their soldiers, sending them to fierce fights without recon, and lack of support.
Were they as bad as it seam?
The were coordinated at one point but the battle of Salvo Island put an end to that coordination. The IJN kicked the crap out of the US Navy in that battle and they decided to pull the invasion fleet out of the area to protect their capital ships. That's why task forces had to come from the south to patrol the area. Plus, they did not want to expose the carriers to enemy attack since at this point in the war there were only a few of them.
@@irafair3015 Thank you! But in fact they did not. A large supremacy of great numbers would be the key. And carriers would be exactely what would make them win those batles... Carriers a few miles away would provide the air support. It seams not a good strategy. probably they were very wrong.
@@pedrokarstguimaraes2817that wouldn't have done very much at night. Night carrier operations come later. You need land-based night fighters on Guadalcanal. They can cover the area of far more.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Thank you! I see... Those boys at Guadalcanal were convicts in those circunstances. If the Navy could not support them, it was like "a bridge too far"...
@@pedrokarstguimaraes2817 Well....How many ships do they need to lose to keep the USMC happy? 🙄
This skirmish actually progressed the retreat of Japan. Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat is one way to record the evacuation of Guadalcanal. Churchill successfully sold Dunkirk as a moral victory but in reality it was a major blow to British prestige. The real and present danger of the Wehrmacht being 20 miles away in Calais was very alarming. The withdrawal of Japanese troops was the slippery slope for Hirohito. General Tojo argued that it was strategic rather than a setback. History knows better as it being the beginning of the end or as Churchill quipped the end of the beginning even though the US lost a destroyer. It’s interesting Enterprise continued its luck and shows that the top heavy Japanese Navy had no room for initiative when overlooking the opportunity of sinking her with a strike force that was more intent on sinking a lesser important target. The cost to the airforce shows how attrition was eating away at 200 million or so Japanese who prepared so diligently but still maintained rigid hierarchies resulting in large amounts of disadvantaged peoples who could not advance in their stratified society.
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They were all "starvation islands' and yet tens of thousands of young Americans were thrown into meatgrinder after meatgrinder for no reason at all. All they had to do was wait them out a few months until they were so decimated by starvation that mopping them up would have been a simple and relatively safe endeavor.
Our growing superiority at sea and in the air assured all Japanese ground forces would be prevented supply, each island group in turn, but for a little patience by American commanders.
Instead many letters to begrieved mothers were written and sent stateside. Why?
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what the fuck? and you think the US had intelligence on this beforehand?
the US needed a counteroffensive fast before logistics and a proper island chain defense couldve been established by the japanese
for the absolute nightmare of logistics fielding so many different cartridges and supplies to its soldiers japan did the best they could, the entire reason the IJN wanted to knock out the pacific fleet at pearl harbour was to buy time for the southern defenses to be shored up
your kind of thinking of "waiting for a supposedly impoverished incompetent empire to shrivel up" would have killed thousands more lives, by the start of guadalcanal we had NO air or SEA superiority against the IJN or IJA
go read a book
@@kulot-ki1tu I'm speaking primarily about the middle to the end of the war. At first things were different although yes the USA didn't need to occupy Guadalcanal prior to its capitulation. Even in January of 1942 the USA knew it would eventually win the war of attrition. The USA already had several carriers being built while the Japanese could not in any way match that capacity. The USA knew it would gain an overwhelming superiority of forces beginning in 1943. Even so, in 1942 Japan was at its limits to its expansion. Australia was NOT under threat nor was the "supply line" between the USA and Australia in any real danger. Port Moresby was never under any actual threat.
Early on the USA was aware that the Japanese could not support their ground forces with supply. This was made abundantly clear with the pullout of Japan from Guadalcanal. Nevertheless, in island group after island group subsequent to Guadalcanal, as the USA advanced, brave young men were needlessly thrown away for no defensible reason. All the USA had to do was establish local sea and air superiority and starve the ground forces into oblivion. Only after achieving that objective should our ground forces have been deployed.
There was absolutely no justification for the deaths of 90% of our ground forces in the Pacific theater.
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@@MrDavePed some of the island hopping campaigns were unneccessary but this would have prolonged the war
you clearly have a lack of knowledge regarding how potent the IJN was even past midway, saying shit like "just spam carriers" doesnt cut it, it wouldnt have just prolonged the suffering of literally everyone in occupied asia but the japanese easily could have lived off the land, established defensive positions and now you wouldve had an even worse meat grinder that wouldve made okinawa / iwo jima look like a joke
their logistical doctrine is a mix of living off the land and supplements, this is no different from when air force advocates thought that bombing a nation to submission rendered ground forces obsolete which is utterly false
you are speaking from such insane hindsight and hubris to think that the US thought japan was on its last legs by 1942, it was sure by 1944 but even then the japanese didnt have an issue with carrier production, it was the valuable pilots lost at guadalcanal which was the issue
nobody in the US general staff thought they were going to win in 1942 because they were too busy trying to do it without sitting in an armchair talking about it 82 years later, this perception is only from a modern understanding of the situation at the time, not from the period itself
think how many more hundreds of thousands of occupied civilians would have been killed if imperial japan was allowed to dig in and solidify its territorial gains
@@kulot-ki1tu Every island the USA "liberated" bore abundant evidence of Japanese troop starvation. Waiting three months at each island group for the bulk of enemy forces to starve would have only set back the entire schedule by a total of 100 days. Forty thousand US troops could have been saved by simply waiting for the starvation to do the inevitable job of making short work of the local enemy forces.
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@@MrDavePed jesus you're not even properly evaluating the IJA as a fighting force properly
im willing to bet that 100 days figure was made with like zero references to japanese sources and only poor postwar analysis using primarily US sources, like the majority of the pacific theatre which has given way to so much misinterpretations of the japanese as a fighting force
i can guarantee it would take more than 100 days to delay the defeat of the japanese, you are vastly overexaggerating the effects of starvation while completely ignoring that it was only partly triggered by the campaign against merchant shipping
plus the zero regard and urgency to liberate literally anyone else, japan wouldnt have starved in 100 days and wouldve continued to massacre more people in its sphere, if you want examples of longevity of forces the best example would be the fact that rabaul stood until the end of the war despite being well bypassed, and the garrison remaining a semi effective fighting force through foraging