Ryu is ridiculus. But there is one problem he has: He has to hit you to get something going. Due to his slow ground speed, he strggles against characters who are good at running away.
I think he can deal with that by baiting his opponents in. Like at the start of the game the faster character needs to get the percent first but Ryu's bair can help keep them at bay and see their attack patterns Just a theory but I do believe you are right.
David Birkenmayer Oh I understand But Ryu can slow him down with rapid d-tilt I guess that's why the Ryu discord thinks it's 45:55 to aggressive sonic and 40:60 to campy.
There's a reason ZeRo said he has the potential to be the best given how insanely safe and dangerous his kit can be in the right hands. All he has to do is touch you a few times and you're dead. The problem isn't the character, but the players. Trela is liable to lose to random low tier mainers, no way he'll take Ryu far anytime soon (he's still amazing though). But seriously, you know a character is fucking busted when the one guy that mains him like no other can't figure out why they never patched Ryu.
mario and luigi are low-key the best characters in smash 4 right now. both deal great damage and both have insanely hard combos to get out of. just look at Anti and false for example
Ryu, he can kill people at ridiculous percentages and do some crazy shit but like the only way he can do all that is if he can land a solid hit and convert it to something else. He's a really amazing character but has a bit of restrictions. Like Sheik can weave in and out of everything, it'd be hard for Ryu to do much against them, then there's Cloud with tons of quick, multi-hitting moves, Ryu wins a lot of matchups but struggles a bit against the important ones
That's why I main Sonic. Not only is he my childhood hero, he's also just fun to play as. don't know why many other players prefer not to use him, though
Took Fox a little bit to really emerge as the broken character he is in Melee. Same with Meta Knight. Give it some time. I think Ryu will prove as the top character in Smash 4.
Ryu is my favorite character.. He is really good, but i wouldn't say hes the best.. But he is number 2 on top 5 characters that take a lot of skill to master... Number 1 obviously being pac-man
i dont believe you, if really Ryu your favorite charachter then you must know this: Ryu is strongest everywhere and everytime he is master of martial arts ansatsuken style first learn this and talk later little kid :)
Can Ürkmez Ok first off.. doesn't matter if he is fighting champ of the world...its smash..every character is put in equally.. second It was an opinion. Lastly if you cant act like a mature person and have a civilized conversation.. then you can leave.. little kid :D
Dude Ryu is faster than Mario and people say Mario has good ground mobility. Ryu and Small Mii Brawler 2122 are the best characters in the game (or at least top 3).
Ive always been a fan of hard hitting characters with no shortage of kill options, thats why for the last few months Ive been playing bowser, and its great, but he has obvious weaknesses, although the command grab does give him some options that other characters dont have. I think with a LOT of work I can give ryu a chance, I main ryu in the older SF games for gods sake
Ryu literally needs one sour fair which is easy to get plus safe on shield and he can kill you at 0 through like 60, one day someone will come and actually do his foot stool combos at high level play just like kamemushi did, it doesn't matter if he's slow think of it like pre patch Bayo combos but actually difficult to do.
I have fought really good Ryus, and its super scary. Fighting anyone thats good is scary, but Ryu can do some crazy stuff. He's definitely at least top 15 imo. He just doesn't really have the results to show he's the best, but he's got potential.
Couldn't Ryu just set up a 0-death combo like this? Sour Fair> Footstool> Weak Nair (Jab Lock)> Focus Attack> Sour Fair> repeat Dunno what percents it's true or when it works, but eventually you could just finish into true shoryuken.
I think Ryu is Top 5 he's doesn't have he results but I know at some point he will take a big major filled with top players. Imo, the Top 5 characters in Smash 4, in no particular order, are Ryu, Rosa, Cloud, Diddy, and Sheik, with Mario and Sonic around 6-7th.
That applies to all characters lol just look at taiheita with his Lucas player skill always will beat character mu no matter what especially looking at how balanced SM4SH is
superdudepwn You're playing on FG, aren't you? Marth's tipper killing st 25!? HAHAHAHAHA! Being someone who mains both Lucina and Marth, his tipper kills at about 60, 50 if the opponent is light and near the edge. Lucina's kills at yeah around 60 or 70. Though, seeing as you (presumably) main Flacon, you wouldn't know about ACTUAL battling. Apparently you only know high tiers. Use a low tier once in a while, you'll know what ACTUAL Smash is like.
C2 Luiz Nope! I'm completely serious! Villager, well have you even SEEN Renai play!? Lucina, I just like her character more than Marth. And her VA is Bae! And Shulk since he has been my day 1 main and I love Xenoblade! It doesn't matter where your character is on the tier list, all that matters is your skill to play and your love for the character!
Ryu is what happens when Sakurai actually tries to design a character to be competitive. Bayonetta was also another example but she's a lot easier to use so they had to nerf her.
in smash 4 its not really just about the character. its about the players. i think around 10 characters in this game are REALLY VIABLE.. but playable are even more, around the 30 to 40 mark. based on results ryu is clearly not the best. and based of "potential" ?? well potential isnt somehting we can measure in this game. the more easy and strong a character is at the same time, the better his/her placing . sheik, diddy, mario and cloud do always good. ryu does just sometimes. ryu is too hard to lear in comparison to what hes able to. we have wet to see a smash4 player that plays ryu so good he CRUSHES every diddy and sheik we see so often in finals
I wouldn't say the best, but he's high up there though...I would more so say Cloud. His recover kinda sucks, but he's pretty good almost everywhere else......course this is coming from someone who's more of a casual then competitive player...(Kinda want to say Ganondorf, but...his speed draws him down a bit...)
Any character can look godlike if you just make a comp of their best moments...all of those nair strings, it's possible to di out of those people. He's really not that good. His neutral game is pretty weak...
Ryu's neutral game isn't a problem, it's just the unique character design that makes him difficult to master. Because of his Street Fighter design you can't apply certain Smash Bros techniques to this character so Ryu ends up losing certain situations. For example, Ryu can't go off stage to edge guard like other characters can and has a hard time recovering and his aerial game isn't the greatest. In a game where jumping and juggling is the core foundation, Ryu can't compete in that area. But his on stage presence and early KO potential definitely makes him a threat, at the end of the day it comes down to the people who play Ryu to bring the results. Not saying you are wrong or trying to bash on you, just giving my two cents :). if anyone wants to converse about this, just leave a reply.
Lol those combos you couldn't DI to much. Just like the people's response to Bayo is to just DI, I don't think you really understand how hard it is to escape the combos.
100% thought this was going to be a ryu getting wrecked video
The quotation marks made it seem sarcastic.
It was really hard to tell if this was gonna be sarcastic, or a bait and switch or not from the title
The quoting marks there were very misleading...
ReNixMaR Exactly. I half expected clips of Mr. ConCon JV3ing that Ryu or Trela losing to Jade.
Talk is $5.99
thats cheap
Real cheap
i feel like if zero said that duck hunt is the best character in the game he would jump in tiers
looooooooooooooooooooooooool
Ryu is ridiculus. But there is one problem he has: He has to hit you to get something going. Due to his slow ground speed, he strggles against characters who are good at running away.
Cool ;)
Just wanted to make sure that people don't only look on one side of the coin.
I agree. His projectile can help with this. They are very good at edge guarding.
+Danny Freeman His projectile has literally a second of lag. He isn't the best in the game. he has down sides.
I think he can deal with that by baiting his opponents in.
Like at the start of the game the faster character needs to get the percent first but Ryu's bair can help keep them at bay and see their attack patterns
Just a theory but I do believe you are right.
David Birkenmayer Oh I understand
But Ryu can slow him down with rapid d-tilt
I guess that's why the Ryu discord thinks it's 45:55 to aggressive sonic and 40:60 to campy.
There's a reason ZeRo said he has the potential to be the best given how insanely safe and dangerous his kit can be in the right hands. All he has to do is touch you a few times and you're dead. The problem isn't the character, but the players. Trela is liable to lose to random low tier mainers, no way he'll take Ryu far anytime soon (he's still amazing though). But seriously, you know a character is fucking busted when the one guy that mains him like no other can't figure out why they never patched Ryu.
Then who is?
I was hoping to see a video about Ryus getting rekt to roast Zero but I guess this kind of video is fine too.
Same lol
mario and luigi are low-key the best characters in smash 4 right now. both deal great damage and both have insanely hard combos to get out of. just look at Anti and false for example
+Devion Woodard I don't think Luigi is the best, probably around top 25 or so.
+Devion Woodard Low-Key, I actually hope you're trolling.
I love watching Ryu fights, I get so hyped when I see a cool combo!
You must defeat my dragon punch to stand a chance!
superdudepwn Lol that's Guile's win quote.
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Damn that nair string to falling up air to Shoryuken will always be sexy.
Correction: Nair string -> falling up-air-> Jab 1-> T.Shoryuken
That instant you realize the Jab is there it makes it even more orgasmic
Correction: Nair string -> falling up-air-> Jab 1-> T.Shoryuken
That instant you realize the Jab is there it makes it even more orgasmic
Ryu, he can kill people at ridiculous percentages and do some crazy shit but like the only way he can do all that is if he can land a solid hit and convert it to something else.
He's a really amazing character but has a bit of restrictions.
Like Sheik can weave in and out of everything, it'd be hard for Ryu to do much against them, then there's Cloud with tons of quick, multi-hitting moves, Ryu wins a lot of matchups but struggles a bit against the important ones
Ryu is so good at fighting it's almost like he's from another game...
Sadly ZeRo apparently doesn't think Ryu is first anymore I think, ANTi said he thinks it's either Rosalina or Sonic!
But Ryu is hype af lol
Sonic? My nigga!
DEDEDELICIOUS
Kreygasm
twitter.com/anti/status/762535507993698304
It's a good time to be a Sonic fan and main.
+DEDEDELICIOUS through his statement is not true at all lmao
That's why I main Sonic. Not only is he my childhood hero, he's also just fun to play as. don't know why many other players prefer not to use him, though
If anything, Ryu is the most fun character to see pulling of insane true combo's.
Ryu is very good. But the results talk another thing...
Took Fox a little bit to really emerge as the broken character he is in Melee. Same with Meta Knight. Give it some time. I think Ryu will prove as the top character in Smash 4.
you can tell who will and won't be relevant in 5 years by seeing how many of them assume the metagame's already finalized tbqh
Trela also destroyed Larry too at another tourny
"Talk is cheap."
+Tristan K , he says as he comments in a discussion
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
those Nair carries r disgustingly beautiful
Ryu is my favorite character.. He is really good, but i wouldn't say hes the best.. But he is number 2 on top 5 characters that take a lot of skill to master... Number 1 obviously being pac-man
id say he's top 5 but def not the best
i dont believe you, if really Ryu your favorite charachter then you must know this: Ryu is strongest everywhere and everytime he is master of martial arts ansatsuken style first learn this and talk later little kid :)
Can Ürkmez Are you talking to me or the other guy?
Choice Banded Baselord THE REAL OU GODSQUAD of course you idiot
Can Ürkmez Ok first off.. doesn't matter if he is fighting champ of the world...its smash..every character is put in equally.. second It was an opinion. Lastly if you cant act like a mature person and have a civilized conversation.. then you can leave.. little kid :D
I agree
Ryu is the most fun character to watch imo.
yay Hooded!
Dude Ryu is faster than Mario and people say Mario has good ground mobility.
Ryu and Small Mii Brawler 2122 are the best characters in the game (or at least top 3).
well damn I would have linked you to the video to my triple Shield break
ryus hits also have crazy hitstun so they can be SDIed relatively easily. most of those combos can be avoided with that
Ryu OP!
Ive always been a fan of hard hitting characters with no shortage of kill options, thats why for the last few months Ive been playing bowser, and its great, but he has obvious weaknesses, although the command grab does give him some options that other characters dont have. I think with a LOT of work I can give ryu a chance, I main ryu in the older SF games for gods sake
Even though he hasn't had much results, I still do believe he's top 6.
I guess Ryu's N-Air's the new Sheik's F-Air
Ugh, what is this resolution. Why did you have to crop the screen like that and zoom it in so much? :/
Bowser Jr. still better potential in my opinion
If I wanted to hear that I would just go to tumblr geez srry
***** thank you
+John Green You do have a sucky opinion tho
Does zero forget that cloud and diddy are in the game
lol they're better than ryu in terms of mus by FAR
Mario?
Ally: Mario is like 30th
i commented on zeros video to trigger people and it worked and it was really funny lol
Cloud? another person thinking Cloud is the best character? I'm done...
CLOUD IS EZ BAKE LMAO
Ryu literally needs one sour fair which is easy to get plus safe on shield and he can kill you at 0 through like 60, one day someone will come and actually do his foot stool combos at high level play just like kamemushi did, it doesn't matter if he's slow think of it like pre patch Bayo combos but actually difficult to do.
I have fought really good Ryus, and its super scary. Fighting anyone thats good is scary, but Ryu can do some crazy stuff. He's definitely at least top 15 imo. He just doesn't really have the results to show he's the best, but he's got potential.
melee: Fox
smash 4: Ryu
Terra Torro brawl : meta knight
Couldn't Ryu just set up a 0-death combo like this?
Sour Fair> Footstool> Weak Nair (Jab Lock)> Focus Attack> Sour Fair> repeat
Dunno what percents it's true or when it works, but eventually you could just finish into true shoryuken.
so are you now working with @FactorArath from now on, or was it just for this video?
I think Ryu is Top 5 he's doesn't have he results but I know at some point he will take a big major filled with top players. Imo, the Top 5 characters in Smash 4, in no particular order, are Ryu, Rosa, Cloud, Diddy, and Sheik, with Mario and Sonic around 6-7th.
Ryu just does not have the neutral game to compete with the other top characters
But can any Ryu do this in a tournament with the best players in the world?
This video was pretty much showing that and Pink Fresh Saga with Trela
obvious, the Ike player was Ryo. and the rest I didnt remember. Also, Nairo almost lost to Trela
Trela placed 9th at Evo
And 385th at CEO lol
Trela hasn't lost to a sheik in tourney or out of tourney I belive.
He's beaten Mr R, VoiD, Vinnie etc
ryu is not only a very good high tier character its the hardest character to master in smash 4
But it's doesn't take long to master him .it took me like 3 weeks and he seems a little broken like bayo
Ryu should honestly be in smash instead of his original titles.
RYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
If we are being cereal here, I think it really depends on who is using him, not Ryu himself.
That applies to all characters lol just look at taiheita with his Lucas player skill always will beat character mu no matter what especially looking at how balanced SM4SH is
I had one thought after the vid was over: "what the fuck just happened??"
This made me sad
ryu is for sure top 5 maybe top 3 cloud and diddy are top 2 but that third spot has a lot of contenders imo
trela! THE best ryu!
Jade tho
Pink mans final form?
yo late question
are u interested in melee as well?
just askin
Yeah melee is one of my favorite games too, although Im not that good
+Plasma Smash same
Same
I'm a better Poptart
***** boi your poptart succs
even if ryu was garbage tier. we can agree he is hype to watch at top level.
Weird, why isn't Cloud in the video?
Because he's too busy losing to Diddy :^)
So does Ryu :-)
Sorry that title belongs to Shulk, Lucina, and Villager!
I can't tell if you're joking or not, please tell me you're not
I think he's talking about other characters that supposedly have potential, but lack any results?
Aside from Ranai sempai (
superdudepwn You're playing on FG, aren't you? Marth's tipper killing st 25!? HAHAHAHAHA! Being someone who mains both Lucina and Marth, his tipper kills at about 60, 50 if the opponent is light and near the edge. Lucina's kills at yeah around 60 or 70. Though, seeing as you (presumably) main Flacon, you wouldn't know about ACTUAL battling. Apparently you only know high tiers. Use a low tier once in a while, you'll know what ACTUAL Smash is like.
C2 Luiz Nope! I'm completely serious! Villager, well have you even SEEN Renai play!? Lucina, I just like her character more than Marth. And her VA is Bae! And Shulk since he has been my day 1 main and I love Xenoblade! It doesn't matter where your character is on the tier list, all that matters is your skill to play and your love for the character!
+oshawott osha lol ok whatever works for you
Ryu can combo like he's in Rivals of Aether :/
I just think it would be sad if the best smash character is a fighter from another franchise
who is factorarath
All you have to do is run.
Why do you add letterbox can't see the damn percents!
Ryu maybe has the most potential. But its too hard to use at full capacity. Especialy at tourneys because of the pressure imo
how can he be top tier? all i ever see him do is nair and suddenly he has "incredible everything"
He's not the best. You're just really REALLY good with him
Charizard*
shit is borken omg im just gonna bury my 3ds until a patch comes out
It did 1.1.6 oh wait now you guys are complaining about another character? Lol the smash 4 community will never change😂😂
Inb4 patch 1.1.7
Why is it cropped like that ew
Ryu is what happens when Sakurai actually tries to design a character to be competitive. Bayonetta was also another example but she's a lot easier to use so they had to nerf her.
That Honestly makes no sense .just because a character is (different to use) does not mean [it] isn't op
fin cost What?
+Yami sense I main ryu and I don't think he is any different then post patch bayo beside witch time
Nah Ryu's results and MUs keep him at top 10 imo, he's not the best
stfu shinyshart ur pacman and ryu are ass
+PlaylistTunes what
+PlaylistTunes This made me giggle...
+PlaylistTunes you know me right lmao
The problem is that if ryu hit's you one time(if it's a Good ryu) you will get rekt
Of course Ryu the best, he is master of martial arts ansatsuken style. Ryu is legend, he is best fighter character.
Inb4 a street fighter character is the best in smash 4
Hi
plz nerf his true shoryuken every single ryu I've played kills me with that move 95% of the time while I'm at 70% 😭
1.1.6 wasn't good enough?
+fin cost obviously not bro that shit is too damn strong 1.1.6 didnt change anything to big
in smash 4 its not really just about the character. its about the players. i think around 10 characters in this game are REALLY VIABLE.. but playable are even more, around the 30 to 40 mark. based on results ryu is clearly not the best. and based of "potential" ?? well potential isnt somehting we can measure in this game. the more easy and strong a character is at the same time, the better his/her placing . sheik, diddy, mario and cloud do always good. ryu does just sometimes. ryu is too hard to lear in comparison to what hes able to. we have wet to see a smash4 player that plays ryu so good he CRUSHES every diddy and sheik we see so often in finals
I wouldn't say the best, but he's high up there though...I would more so say Cloud. His recover kinda sucks, but he's pretty good almost everywhere else......course this is coming from someone who's more of a casual then competitive player...(Kinda want to say Ganondorf, but...his speed draws him down a bit...)
His recovery isn't that bad
+Algae
I know. I guess phrasing it "kinda sucks" was kinda an overstatement...
+Busterman64 Yeah.
Time to nerf ryu
bayonetta is 1st place obviously
Ryu beats sheik
am i the only one who pronounced ryu as rye you
I disagree but it's an opinion based thing so it doesn't really matter. Great video anyways
Poor neutral and weak approaching options. Rosalina and Villager alone knock him out of the race for best character. Still a good character though.
Villager mu isn't that bad honestly and rosa dies so early to most of Ryus moves and most of his moves have good knock back on luma
Not even top 5 tho....
COUGHCHOUGHmarioSNEEZEBORKACHOOOO
black lines are way to big
soy putita
17th!
400th like
:P
And still... Zelda beats ryu easily xD
meh
some of those were really bad DI
Aids
Any character can look godlike if you just make a comp of their best moments...all of those nair strings, it's possible to di out of those people. He's really not that good. His neutral game is pretty weak...
Cough bayo
Ryu's neutral game isn't a problem, it's just the unique character design that makes him difficult to master. Because of his Street Fighter design you can't apply certain Smash Bros techniques to this character so Ryu ends up losing certain situations. For example, Ryu can't go off stage to edge guard like other characters can and has a hard time recovering and his aerial game isn't the greatest. In a game where jumping and juggling is the core foundation, Ryu can't compete in that area. But his on stage presence and early KO potential definitely makes him a threat, at the end of the day it comes down to the people who play Ryu to bring the results. Not saying you are wrong or trying to bash on you, just giving my two cents :). if anyone wants to converse about this, just leave a reply.
+SkyofMaster Ryu is a top 10 little Mac but better recovery
***** exactly
Lol those combos you couldn't DI to much. Just like the people's response to Bayo is to just DI, I don't think you really understand how hard it is to escape the combos.
ew.