Pirate Expert Rates Scenes From Hollywood Movies About Piracy

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  • @HistoryHit
    @HistoryHit  ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Hope you enjoyed guys! Do you agree with Iszi on these classic pirate movies? 🏴‍☠ Don't forget to subscribe to History Hit so you won't miss any of our upcoming videos! 👍

    • @leoperidot482
      @leoperidot482 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heres some other pirate movies that were overlooked.
      AGAINST ALL FLAGS.
      THE BLACK SWAN.
      THE BUCCANEER.
      CAPTAIN BLOOD.
      CAPTAIN KIDD.
      THE CRIMSON PIRATE.
      CUTTHROAT ISLAND.
      DAMN THE DEFIANT.
      THE DEVIL-SHIP PIRATES.
      HOOK.
      THE ICE PIRATES.
      THE ISLAND.
      PAN.
      PETER PAN.
      THE SEA HAWK.
      SERENITY.
      THE SPOILERS.
      SWASHBUCKLER.
      TREASURE PLANET.

    • @jansonshrock2859
      @jansonshrock2859 ปีที่แล้ว

      the black pearl's cannon deck is below the top which is why it doesn't look that packed on the top deck during the assault on Port Royale

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb ปีที่แล้ว

      I was surprised that the captain's quarters in the 1950s film were depicted as having potted flowers. But I suppose it was right for the character, that he would put aside water for plants that could be given to people.

    • @alexlong5705
      @alexlong5705 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think she took the scene from muppet treasure island too literally. When their saying how they could have been this and that their just lying, trying to convince young jim hawkins that being a pirate is a great life when in reality they’re a bunch of cutthroats and scum bags, and most of them not that bright.

    • @TheCrayonMaster
      @TheCrayonMaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd love to hear what she has to say about the show Black Sails 😊

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 ปีที่แล้ว +3497

    the reason Michael Caine and Tim Curry are so good in their respective Muppet movies is that Michael Caine treats the Muppets as fellow actors, and Tim Curry treats himself as a fellow Muppet

    • @andrewvanness2101
      @andrewvanness2101 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      That’s the best thing I’ve ever read on the internet.

    • @clairethompson5549
      @clairethompson5549 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      This is the most accurate thing I’ve read all day.

    • @CJ4S147
      @CJ4S147 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I should know this but what pirate movie was Caine in? I don’t have time to watch the whole video before work and I’m curious.

    • @CJ4S147
      @CJ4S147 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I get it now, Caine was also in a muppet movie

    • @1987MartinT
      @1987MartinT ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's part of why those two are such amazing actors.

  • @CJ4S147
    @CJ4S147 ปีที่แล้ว +1120

    I love how this person is so sarcastically serious about judging the accuracy, historical and otherwise of a muppet movie.

    • @beludrugueri7776
      @beludrugueri7776 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Love iszi!! And that name! Reminded me of Izzy hands! Gotta love pirates 😍

    • @s.f.nightingale1735
      @s.f.nightingale1735 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      to be fair the muppet christmas carol has some of the greatest historical costumes of all time.

  • @Rosedawn321
    @Rosedawn321 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    “A movie without Miss Piggy isn’t a movie!” Love it!

  • @CarterElkins
    @CarterElkins ปีที่แล้ว +1574

    I liked this presenter. A lot of expert reactions feel like the expert has a chip on their shoulder, and is just looking to dump on all your favorite things (often for superficial reasons). Iszi had a great balance of praise and critique, mixed with humor and education. Well done!

    • @53knights
      @53knights ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I dunno if it was this channel or another one, but one expert judging surviving while stranded at sea, they gave the always Sunny in Philadelphia clip a 10/10

    • @Wandervenn
      @Wandervenn ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I suppose if you're an expert on pirates then it pays to have an element of whimsy somewhere.

    • @NeroIML
      @NeroIML ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would like to recommend Matt Easton and his TH-cam channel Scholagladiatora, if you like experts analyzing popular media with a more positive outlook. He's an expert in historical fighting and weapons and has quite a few videos where he analyzes scenes from historical and fantasy films, and he does so with an eye for the cinematic aspects as well as his area of expertise.

    • @CarterElkins
      @CarterElkins ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NeroIML Thanks for the recommendation! I checked out a few of his things, and I like his style as well.

    • @dacksonflux
      @dacksonflux ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't really agree. Most of them take the commentating with stride. They frequently give higher scores just for how entertaining the movies were.
      Maybe you're just bummed to hear that your favorite movies aren't exceptionally accurate.

  • @Arjay404
    @Arjay404 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Loved this expert. Not only did she critique the movies from a historical point of view but also from a cinematic point of view when it totally didn't make sense, but at the same time giving the movies enough leeway when it did make sense. She seems like a very fun person to be friends with and would love to hear her tell more stories about pirates.

    • @darnmarr
      @darnmarr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ^this^

    • @Zerradable
      @Zerradable ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure, she looks like the funny people that call you a national socialist for drinking milk :))

    • @darnmarr
      @darnmarr ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Intolerance and lactose intolerance are not the same thing.
      @@Zerradable

  • @MorriganAtwood
    @MorriganAtwood ปีที่แล้ว +501

    Elizabeth: [stabs Barbossa]
    Expert: This is not accurate; if you stabbed a pirate they would probably die.
    Peak comedy, I do not want to learn history from anyone else.

    • @Julia-lk8jn
      @Julia-lk8jn ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I don't know, I feel that Barbossa's reaction might have been accurate enough for a _cursed_ pirate.
      But I've got to admit, there aren't a lot of historical sources on those.

    • @BeautifulGazelle06
      @BeautifulGazelle06 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Julia-lk8jnI mean that depends of if you count STDs as “curses”

  • @thesumofmyfear
    @thesumofmyfear ปีที่แล้ว +515

    I think they didn't want Elizabeth to drop the medallion because with it being dark they'd have a hard time finding it before the port mounted an organized response. They may have attacked with surprise, but the Fort still had large guns overlooking the harbor. And that's assuming the medallion wasn't lost in the mud or sand. Besides, seeing it after all that time, they really really wanted it as soon as possible.

    • @kyndramb7050
      @kyndramb7050 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      From what I know from fishing, fish go after shiny things... Could have easily been swallowed by sealife and it's gone forever.

    • @Julia-lk8jn
      @Julia-lk8jn ปีที่แล้ว +17

      very good points!

    • @carly7522
      @carly7522 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Ive lost jewellry at the beach. 2 seconds in the water or sand and its gonzo mate.

    • @1412mariLU
      @1412mariLU ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Yes to all the things above.
      The only thing that doesn't make sense is the "medallion calls" part. When Elizabeth falls into the water there's this weird shock wave which I always assumed was the reason why Barbossa knew where to look for the medallion and steered the Black Pearl into Port Royal. But if that was the case they could also track it if Elizabeth dropped it.

    • @williammcginnis7772
      @williammcginnis7772 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@1412mariLU I think that is because for as long as Elizabeth had it, it had no contact with water, I don't know if it would be constantly pinging while submerged or not but it does feel like a bit of a bad design.

  • @alan-dx2zf
    @alan-dx2zf ปีที่แล้ว +798

    This lady is brilliant. More of her please

    • @skipenguins
      @skipenguins ปีที่แล้ว +12

      God no, unless she does some (or any in fact) research in to what she is commenting on before speaking.

    • @DJRockford83
      @DJRockford83 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@skipenguinsnot just me that noticed that then

    • @ponchopower
      @ponchopower ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lots of talking coming from the wrong end

    • @tnatstrat7495
      @tnatstrat7495 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      ​@@skipenguins What did she get wrong?

    • @MrWoIf
      @MrWoIf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skipenguins did you do that before making this comment or are you just daft?

  • @davidkinsey8657
    @davidkinsey8657 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    More pirate movie commentary please. Black Sails, Captain Blood, Hook, Cutthroat Island, Legend of Blackbeard, The Buccaneer, Pirates of Penzance.

    • @JenFoxworth
      @JenFoxworth ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Absolutely Hook!

    • @WalesTheTrueBritons
      @WalesTheTrueBritons ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Blackbeard is highly exaggerated, whereas Black Bart Roberts is completely ignored, despite being the most successful Western Pirate.

    • @ramonribascasasayas7877
      @ramonribascasasayas7877 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And One Piece! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @darkmagician2521
      @darkmagician2521 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the Monkey Island game series.

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And “The Pirate Movie” and Roman Polanski’s “Pirates”.

  • @8jazz8
    @8jazz8 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    What a great presenter, this might be the best “academic reacts” video I’ve watched. Perfect balance of pointing out what’s wrong (and giving so many interesting facts) vs. Recognising when it’s best to just say “never mind”

  • @sarahmillard6401
    @sarahmillard6401 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is the first time I’ve become aware of Izsi Lawrence - I’m now off to investigate her podcasts and other output! She’s great! 👏

  • @Blackchain119
    @Blackchain119 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    I imagine the leg irons on his wrists were because they didn't readily have cuffs nearby. I recall the Commodore saying "Gillette, fetch some irons", so it stands to reason they grabbed just whatever was nearby, and (uncomfortably) at this time of history slave ships were fairly common, so you might find some leg irons near the docks...
    Also, plot convenience.

    • @obediahpolkinghorniii564
      @obediahpolkinghorniii564 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Bloody Gillette! He never gets anything right.

    • @amandaritzau2602
      @amandaritzau2602 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think it shows how stupid the soldiers were in the movie... seriously most of em were not smart

    • @davesmith3803
      @davesmith3803 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@amandaritzau2602
      In the day everyone went in for very harsh punishments for vanishingly small offences. The harsher and more unforgiving the leader the stupider the followers get from anxiety and fear.

    • @PortCharmers
      @PortCharmers ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I suppose they were leg-irons because otherwise Jack's stunt wouldn't have worked out

    • @Blackchain119
      @Blackchain119 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@PortCharmersAs I said, plot convenience.

  • @Cailus3542
    @Cailus3542 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    This was just marvellous. Muppet Treasure Island might just be my favourite childhood movie, and I love how she approached it.

    • @derekdreke4990
      @derekdreke4990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TBH it's one of the all time greatest videos of all time 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

  • @Fridao94
    @Fridao94 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    Would love to see her rate scenes from "Black Sails"

    • @mjinba07
      @mjinba07 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Best EVER. But she'd have to devote two entire videos to it.

    • @moriahw3947
      @moriahw3947 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maybe there will be a part two! Theyve done that before here.

    • @HankyPanky44
      @HankyPanky44 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Came here to write this, thank you

    • @EliSzydlo
      @EliSzydlo ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Agreed! I wholly support historical reactions to Black Sails.

    • @pszczolka80
      @pszczolka80 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would also love this.

  • @gorzkawodka
    @gorzkawodka ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Thank you for the corset part. Corsets weren't a torture device, they were comfortable and women enjoyed wearing them, especially women who did manual labor (cleaning, cooking, washing, other house chores) because corset supports your back.

    • @katherinegilks3880
      @katherinegilks3880 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They were basically the equivalent of bras. Not necessarily comfortable, especially if not properly fitted, but better than having one's breasts bouncing around or drooping heavily. The "torture device" corsets weren't until the later Victorian era.

    • @GoddessNeith
      @GoddessNeith ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katherinegilks3880 and only for those who could afford to buy Paris gowns. Victorian corsets are quite comfy as well. unless you're an idiot who tight laces.

    • @breannadeal8610
      @breannadeal8610 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I have a nice one I wear when we go to Renaissance fairs and I find it very comfortable! The back support is honestly so amazing. We're walking around and sitting on uncomfortable seats all day and I'd be miserable without the support of the corset.

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There always some one trying the extra tight makes you look thin / fashionable.

    • @thenablade858
      @thenablade858 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@katherinegilks3880Exactly. Empress Elizabeth of Austria (famous for the really sanitized Romy Schneider films) wore ridiculously tight-fitting corsets because she was obsessed with maintaining her weight and beauty.

  • @hillerymcdonald2303
    @hillerymcdonald2303 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I LOVE this presenter. She is so funny and so brilliant, I would watch an entire series of her presenting documentaries about piracy!!! Love.

  • @HOGANHAGGAR
    @HOGANHAGGAR ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is one of the cutest and most charming people I saw for a long time. The speech, the voice, the style, the knowledge... respect!

  • @makeda6530
    @makeda6530 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    She seems like she’d be a fun teacher to learn from, she looks like the cool art teacher stereotype, I love her.
    I also appreciate the words about Elizabeth’s stays, they always include a scene with corsetry for drama when they weren’t nearly as bad as media makes them out to be.

    • @OcarinaSapphr-
      @OcarinaSapphr- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's an inaccurate & overdone cliche that needs to be dropped off a cliff, imo.
      They're only uncomfortable if they're 'unseasoned' or too small, as far as I'm aware - I could buy Elizabeth being uncomfortable if her new dress (& new stays), having being made in London, rather than by a local seamstress- were a bit on the small side, but considering they're the foundation garments she would have been used to wearing all her life... it's a bit much to hear her complaining about them *all. the. time* .
      And stays *aren't* corsets- the terms aren't interchangeable... Stays existed between the mid-15th & early 19th c - yanking on them to lace them up, the way they do in movies & TV shows would wreck them within a wear or two; *_corsets_* were only possible after the 2nd Industrial Revolution allowed the making of the finer steel components - before then, the only part of stays that would be metal, would _occasionally_ be lacing rings, that might have served to reinforce the lacing holes (but not all stays had them, & they are **not** the same as the later metal grommets)...

  • @nazhopkins5825
    @nazhopkins5825 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Need more videos on pirates! Especially exploring pirates around the middle East, Africa and India where my pirate ancestors were.

  • @jessegelhof1756
    @jessegelhof1756 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I adore how she treats Muppet Treasure Island (one of the greatest films of all time) with the same analytic view as the others-- much like how the person (@tadicuslegion78) below pointed out why Caine and Curry were so good. She didn't laugh it off and give it free passes just because it's a muppet movie, but pointed out actual pros and cons regarding accuracy--giving it equal standing. And just, mad respect to her. She was wicked funny and knows her shit. All the props.

  • @matthewfullerton1416
    @matthewfullerton1416 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    More pirate content from Iszi please!! Would love yo hear what she thinks of Black Sails. It is also downright criminal that you did not include Suzy Izzards portrayal of Long John Silver as I personally believe it's the best one

    • @marieroberts5664
      @marieroberts5664 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is Suzy Izzards related to Eddie Izzard?

    • @matthewfullerton1416
      @matthewfullerton1416 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@marieroberts5664 Eddie changed name to Suzy

    • @marieroberts5664
      @marieroberts5664 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@matthewfullerton1416 did not know that! Thanks for the info.

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Pride month is over. Go back to your closets.

    • @zoinomiko
      @zoinomiko ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah Black Sails!!!

  • @matthewgillies7509
    @matthewgillies7509 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Long John Silver was the Quartermaster of Captain Flint, so not an officer per say, he looked after the crew, provisions and their pay. It also explains how he had the money for a tavern, and his contacts necessary to form his own crew. It also explains his leadership of the former men of Flint, he was the one who was the intermediary between the leadership and the ordinary sailors, and likely looked after them when needed. This position accorded him respect, but also fear as he could easily denied provisions or pay from those who displeased him, and it is made clear by Billy Bones that Silver was deeply feared by him and many others because of his ability to command the men and have them act on his whims. But he wouldn't have the notoriety to be wanted by the Admiralty for high crimes.

    • @EmperorSmith
      @EmperorSmith ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The quartermaster ranked higher than any other officer aboard the ship except the captain himself, and could veto the captain's decisions whenever the ship was not chasing a prize or engaged in battle.

    • @matthewgillies7509
      @matthewgillies7509 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@EmperorSmith that might have been the case with a few pirate ships or small trading vessels, but definitely not for the navy of the period nor the large merchant ships. The Quartermaster would be among mid-level NCOs at the time, but still below Master at Arms, the Carpenter, the Rope Maker, Gunner, Surgeon, the Clerk, and Boatswain, and officers like the senior midshipmen, Master, and the lieutenants, and the Master and Commander.

    • @christosvoskresye
      @christosvoskresye ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, it was very disappointing to hear her call Long John Silver a captain. He nearly was, and for a good while practically was, but never quite really.

    • @Rystefn
      @Rystefn ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@matthewgillies7509 But it doesn't matter how the Navy did it. It only matters how Flint's crew did it.

    • @matthewgillies7509
      @matthewgillies7509 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Rystefn Easy, they did it like every other ship, and the Quartermaster wasn't a high level officer. Sailors at this period were not known to be innovators, and were extremely traditional and superstitious. They would not have imposed a new or unfamiliar system, and would have adopted what was already normal and expected.

  • @noemiecansier8466
    @noemiecansier8466 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love the way she explains the economic and social background to piracy in a relatable nuanced way.

  • @timexgirl
    @timexgirl ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love this explaination of pirates. I also love how passionate she is about her knowledge. I would like to see more from her if at all possible. Maybe have her review different depictions of real pirates such as blackbeard.

  • @charlotteslays
    @charlotteslays ปีที่แล้ว +328

    i want her to review our flag means death - its not trying to be that accurate but id love to know her opinions

    • @marieroberts5664
      @marieroberts5664 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Aye aye and hear hear!

    • @americaroleplayer
      @americaroleplayer ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ironically enough the homosexuality of the pirates is one of the most accurate things on the show lol

    • @charlotteslays
      @charlotteslays ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@americaroleplayer well obviously; but like the costuming only had a small budget so theyre not super accurate (nor were they trying to be with taika in full leather) or like the language they use etc but its so fun that pirates really were gay

    • @americaroleplayer
      @americaroleplayer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@charlotteslays Ya, obviously the real Blackbeard wasn't dating Stede, but I am curious if he knew Stede and Calico Jack. Was Fuckery a real thing? Ect.

    • @sheepinwolfsk1n
      @sheepinwolfsk1n ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@americaroleplayer it's very unlikely that Blackbeard ever met Calico Jack, but it is rather well known that Stede (being a less than apt pirate in his own right) gave over his control of his ship to Blackbeard for a period of time sometime during 1717.

  • @marie_h1104
    @marie_h1104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She is clearly enjoying critiquing the movies, pointing out the accuracies/inaccuracies, and insisting that Miss Piggy is the key to making a movie.
    Well done!

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Tim Curry was brilliant a Silver.. 'when youre a professional pirate, you dont have to wear a suit'

  • @Snaggaface
    @Snaggaface ปีที่แล้ว +98

    The most accurate portrayal I’ve seen was Black Sails. The horror of cannon balls sending shrapnel everywhere, some of the pirates like Ned Low (based on a true pirate) are absolutely terrifying. These shows she has looked at are what I’d call “pirate lite”

    • @WalesTheTrueBritons
      @WalesTheTrueBritons ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A show that had every pirate possible except for the best and most successful one.

    • @Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts
      @Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts ปีที่แล้ว +13

      One of my favorite shows of all time, a true classic

    • @HankyPanky44
      @HankyPanky44 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WalesTheTrueBritons Being who?

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HankyPanky44Captain Hook, of course! 😄

    • @WlatPziupp
      @WlatPziupp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the best blend of history and myth

  • @Essess23
    @Essess23 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I like this historian, like the points she picked up on, especially how she mentioned the Somali pirates done this out of necessity, we don't realize how lucky we are not having to put our lives on the line doing criminal acts just to make a living.

  • @Fallingslowly09
    @Fallingslowly09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Her breakdown is so fascinating. I could watch videos like this for days. Just feature her on a monthly basis to talk about pirates!

  • @uchihaitachi181
    @uchihaitachi181 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think the plot hole in Pirates about them walking along the bottom of the ocean isn’t really a hole grand scheme. It’s bloody dark underwater and it’s a kinda small thing to go looking for. So it would be a pain in the ass to go to get it

  • @fuselpeter5393
    @fuselpeter5393 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    19:40 "They did like to kill whoever they liked to." - Iszi smiles full of joy. xD

  • @jollypatt
    @jollypatt ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Such a fun and informative analysis of these films. Would love to see her review Our Flag Means Death!

  • @mattwrightauthor
    @mattwrightauthor ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "If you can't fit Miss Piggy into a movie, is it a movie?"
    I submit to you -- No. No it isn't. 😂

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only Black Sails included Miss Piggy! It would then have been a movie. 😉

  • @roguetaco5487
    @roguetaco5487 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    OMG thank you for the comment about the corsets! As a fan of historical costumes and follower of that world on YT, I appreciate the comment.

    • @parkerbrown-nesbit1747
      @parkerbrown-nesbit1747 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a wearer of stays (the proper 18th Century term), so did I.

    • @makeda6530
      @makeda6530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was giddy to when she said that. Found my people~ 😌

  • @Sheckla41
    @Sheckla41 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I could listen to Iszi talk literally forever

  • @crimsonknight7011
    @crimsonknight7011 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    You mentioned it was odd they were all wearing the wigs at the beginning. Well to be fair at this precise moment they were going to have a ceremony promoting him to commodore, so many it was part of the ceremony

  • @tb18761
    @tb18761 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They should have her do more of these too. I’d like to see what she’d think of ‘Black Sails’. Probably my favorite show of all time.

  • @Airtayjay
    @Airtayjay ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Do my eyes deceive me or is Muppet Treasure Island getting some recognition?! It's legit my favorite Muppets movie, SO good!

  • @misolgit69
    @misolgit69 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Robert Newton who played Long John Silver in the 1st Treasure Island movie was a classically trained actor and practically invented the ARR Jim Lad pirate character was damn near copied by a whole slew of other actors and in fact spent most of his subsequent career trying to live it down

    • @karlkarlos3545
      @karlkarlos3545 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He also was known for having more booze than blood in his body.

    • @alan-dx2zf
      @alan-dx2zf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aww I was going to say That!

    • @TheMadPoetHimself
      @TheMadPoetHimself ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ikr! I was waiting for her to talk about his invention of pirate talk, but it didn't really come up. That's the only thing I dislike about these bite-size analyses... she probably was aware of that fact (and others) but didn't get space to talk about everything.

    • @OcarinaSapphr-
      @OcarinaSapphr- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheMadPoetHimself
      He didn't invent it, so much as observe the history of where he grew up (a seafaring community) & make use of it...

    • @TheMadPoetHimself
      @TheMadPoetHimself ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@OcarinaSapphr- True, but he invented the concept of it being an accent specifically used by pirates. (Although he wasn't far wrong, given that a lot of pirates were from west England. It's just that a lot of other people talked like that too).

  • @paramitch
    @paramitch ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love everything about this. Iszi is so knowledgeable, and is also incredibly witty, entertaining, and enthusiastic. And that reaction to the entrance of Miss Piggy was just the icing on the cake. I will now go watch everything Iszi has ever commented on! Arrrghghg! (Also, I so wish she could have taken a gander at "Our Flag Means Death," especially as she mentions Stede by name!)

  • @Horticarter41
    @Horticarter41 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a kid from California born in 82' I cannot stress enough how many of us were OBSESSED with Pirates of the Caribbean and that first scene that really shows the true nature of the crew was a childhood wish fulfilled...then they made too many movies...and I don't wanna talk about it anymore..

  • @catherinebrady4924
    @catherinebrady4924 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The point about pirate captains being recognisable is very interesting. In the book at least Long John was Captain Flint's quartermaster and not a Captain at all until he declares himself Captain of the Hispaniola.

  • @keithday3658
    @keithday3658 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The English town of Hartlepool is somewhat famous for hanging a monkey (that was washed up from a french ship) becuase they had never seen one before and thought it was a French spy. There is even a statue in the town of this.

  • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
    @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t ปีที่แล้ว +37

    1:00 I always figured that since earlier in the movie, we see her father presenting her with "the latest fashion from London", there could be 2 things at play: one is that the corset and dress, came from London and the measurements are off (and no fitting took place after it was presented); and also perhaps the maids who put her in it don't like her that much, which is why it's over tightened.

    • @asradtke07
      @asradtke07 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or they weren't familiar with that garment and didn't know how to tighten it properly without inadvertently tight lacing it. I think whale bone was popular at the time and rather bendy.

    • @JaneXemylixa
      @JaneXemylixa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It probably took several months for the order to arrive to London and another to ship it back, plus the making. Chances are she'd grown out of it xD (or didn't grow into it they way they expected. how common was that, can anyone tell?)

    • @golwenlothlindel
      @golwenlothlindel ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's also new. Natural materials take time to expand, and corsets are specifically designed to not do that. Them tearing it off like that though, is not accurate: but the fundamental issue is that the corset design is not period accurate. We earlier see Elizabeth holding on to her bedpost while a maid laces her up: but back lacing corsets wouldn't be in fashion for another century. Corsets at this time were always front lacing. They also had a rigid piece called a busk that you inserted in the front under the lacing. This is the part that a rescuer would remove to make it easier for Elizabeth to breathe deeply. Removing her entire corset like that would be grounds for Elizabeth to sue Norrington, in the real 18th Century. Being exposed in public like that would do considerable damage to her marriage prospects.

    • @OcarinaSapphr-
      @OcarinaSapphr- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@golwenlothlindel
      Agree 💯%!
      Also- they would be *_stays_* at this time, *not* a corset- so they'd be even _more_ comfortable (at least as comfortable as a new dress made of- I want to say- a lined & painted silk would be- I find it hard to believe the *_Governor_* would buy his daughter a _print_ dress) - & a new & slightly too small bodice would be uncomfortable, no matter what the age of the setting.
      Stays & corsets are **not** interchangeable, no matter what media has to say on it.
      Stays date from the mid-late 15th century, to the early-mid 19th - corsets date from the mid-19th century, when the later period of the Industrial Revolution made production of the fine steel components possible; before that point, the only metal components of a pair of stays _might_ have been metal lacing rings, that would have been stitched over & served to reinforce the lacing holes (but they weren't ubiquitous- most people just relied on the strength of their stitching... & people _not_ being absolute wallies & yanking on something they had no need to: why do people act like tight-lacing was not only occurring earlier than it did, historically- but that pretty much *everyone* from pre-teens to near-grandmas were getting in on it??
      It was a limited fad for a handful of people; actresses, models, fashionistas, & socialites- & even then, not _all_ of them)
      BTW- *love* the real legal aspect you added at the end!

    • @pmc8451
      @pmc8451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you seriously suggesting that a Pirates of the Caribbean movie is employing several layers of subtext in regards to historical fashion rather than simply relying on lazy misconceptions and stereotypes?

  • @danielallen3454
    @danielallen3454 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of the reasons why they might've built the stockade on Treasure Island where they did, is because there's a good supply of clean water in that area. There's a small pool of it fed by a spring. So, they may have built it there for that reason alone.

  • @cleverusername9369
    @cleverusername9369 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This awesome lady has big Lindybeige energy: consummate expert, silly sense of humor, and lots of comments like "that's weird and wrong but never mind" I adore her

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's be honest - she has way better hair than him.

    • @jackwish420
      @jackwish420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@PobortzaPlI will not stand for this Lindybeige slander😢

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackwish420 I was speaking about the colour.

    • @cleverusername9369
      @cleverusername9369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hair aside, she has a very wonderfully extremely dry sense of humour, coupled with a wealth of knowledge and a fun delivery. Shades of beige notwithstanding

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cleverusername9369 Yup, that's true.

  • @aragorn0988
    @aragorn0988 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    For POTC, regarding the necklace, it's not about them not being able to go on the sea bottom, it's about loosing what they came for ib the water currents, which would forfeit their only chance of lifting the curse (unless you count POTC 5, which makes the 10 years of looking for a pendant useless)

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      personally i don't really think that Pirates 5 is really seen as Canon because stranger things while flawed was a great ending to the story of jack sparrow and the pirates franchise.

  • @looneyflight
    @looneyflight ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I missed everything she said during the professional Pirate song because I was too busy singing along. Love that movie.

    • @thehonoredone2361
      @thehonoredone2361 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's good, people who don't sing along should walk the plank.

  • @kristinvandermeer3025
    @kristinvandermeer3025 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I loved pirate stories as a kid. Real or fantasy! I was obsessed with Pirates of the Caribbean at about age 8.

  • @vcg73
    @vcg73 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That's hilarious. I've seen POTC: Curse of the Black Pearl a dozen times over the years and it never once occurred to me that the undead pirates could have simply taken a dip and retrieved the medallion if Elizabeth had dropped it overboard. Especially since we see that the coins call out to them like homing beacons, so they wouldn't have had to search the whole ocean floor to find it. :)

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but it may have just been the case of just the simple idea of loosing something they had been searching for and the simple fear of losing it again that made them jump.
      the stream could carry it and they could never find it.

    • @spaceshiplewis
      @spaceshiplewis ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ocean current is a bitch, even for gold.

    • @Mare_Man
      @Mare_Man ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@spaceshiplewisNot to mention mud and the possibility of the coin getting swallowed by a fish

  • @Liialy
    @Liialy ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My take on 'we really don't want her to drop the necklace even though we can totally go get it' is 1) movie, keeping surprises for the audience 2) FINDING the bloody thing would be a pain in the ass and require keeping the ship in that one spot for a long time. The coin is small, they don't exactly have flashlights so its going to be dark down there, and the coin isn't going to go straight down so the search area is bigger than preferred (and that's assuming they don't accidentally bury the thing with disturbed substrate during the search). Also, aren't they in the open ocean at this point? If you don't have a line that reaches the bottom getting the corpse that finally finds the necklace back out could be a problem.
    In short, gasp because its right the fuck there and the alternative is a pain in the ass

    • @Blokewood3
      @Blokewood3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just imagine if the pirates did it differently:
      Ragetti: Let it drop! We can just go in and find it!
      (Elizabeth drops it in)
      *8 hours later*
      Pintel: Where in blazes is the bloody thing?!
      Ragetti: I guess the current moves pretty swift down here.
      Bosun: Navy ships approaching. We have to move.
      Barbossa: (internally making a note to strap a cannon to Ragetti's bootstraps...)

    • @pmc8451
      @pmc8451 ปีที่แล้ว

      but the medallions act like beacons to the pirates, calling out to them. So it wouldn’t be that hard for them to find

  • @lyooyiylklykyokyklky
    @lyooyiylklykyokyklky ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "why isn't everything taut?" me to myself in the mirror, every day since turning ~35

  • @kampinak
    @kampinak ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Im actually glad she pointed out the fact that in the first Pirates movie when Elizabeth is threatening that she will drop the gold it makes no sense for the pirates to be worried about it since they can just go and grab it xD

  • @MajCyric
    @MajCyric ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @17:35 That's the bill (rostrum) of a Sawfish.. They mainly skim the bottom of the ocean eating crustaceans on the ocean floor or hiding in the sand (they use that "saw" to dig in the sand).. They will also swim higher up to eat fish (which use their "saw" as a weapon to kill/maim fish with)..

  • @OmnivorousReader
    @OmnivorousReader ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ 19:30 It is a fish nose, essentially: a ray, also known as a Sawfish, or as carpenter sharks. They have a long, narrow, flattened rostrum - a nose extension. They are endangered, because so many people thought that their nose made a great trophy.

  • @Delaney-and-the-Starlight
    @Delaney-and-the-Starlight ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don’t know how you said “obviously pigs aren’t native to the Caribbean…” with a straight face while staring down a muppet 🤣

    • @derekdreke4990
      @derekdreke4990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right 🤣🤣🤣

  • @EyeKahnography
    @EyeKahnography ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a joy to watch someone like Iszi love what they do and get excited about the details that are right but have fun with the wones that are inaccurate. That was a delightful damn half hour. Thank you ^_^

  • @KittTheHistorian
    @KittTheHistorian ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Shame you didn't pick the 1934 Treasure Island version - the fighting from Captain Smollett is LEGENDARY! The actor who portrayed him was a WWI vet, who went on to train recruits in combat, and you can really tell from the few swordfighting scenes he has that he knows what he's doing.

  • @michaelrussell2891
    @michaelrussell2891 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    could not have picked a better presenter amazing

  • @TheMadPoetHimself
    @TheMadPoetHimself ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interestingly there actually is an instance of a pirate who was a prize fighter when on land - when he was hanged in Nassau in 1718, he wore ribbons on his hat, sleeves and trousers to the execution to show off, as apparently this was a prize fighter custom when going into the ring.
    Source: the voices in my head (but also probably the General History of the Pyrates, idk).

  • @polaris30000
    @polaris30000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need so many more videos with Iszi. She knows her stuff and is so delectably sassy!

  • @Pippi-Longstocking
    @Pippi-Longstocking ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This expert is a delight!!

  • @wickedawesomeo
    @wickedawesomeo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First thing I thought when we swooped into Treasure Island was "wow, that set is gorgeous!"

  • @mickisievers6974
    @mickisievers6974 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bring her back! Loved every moment!

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a parallel universe where Edward Teach lived longer and the Gold Age of Piracy never died.

  • @susanboon4605
    @susanboon4605 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely delightful, but also quite informative. I will look for other things featuring Iszi Lawrence!

  • @Historian212
    @Historian212 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Robert Newton was an entire generation’s idea of what a pirate was. Fun video!

  • @Randerson2409
    @Randerson2409 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Iszi's energy in this. Letting the audience know "Yes, we know this isn't right." But acknowledging when it's done for the sake of spectacle, or story progression, as well as poking fun at how silly some of the things depicted are. In short, someone who seems to actually enjoy the things she is discussing

  • @kate2create738
    @kate2create738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Certainly enjoyed Iszi’s take on these films, she was great informing the little details that most people miss yet gracefully give pointers of times she thought certain details could have been improved. She understands these films are mainly got entertainment while sharing her passion of the piracy era. I’m now jealous that is her field of expertise, what a fun and interesting period and culture to study.

  • @tomvandongen8075
    @tomvandongen8075 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wasn't expecting to see Iszi on history hit but I'm here for it!

  • @ninacrabtree2001
    @ninacrabtree2001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love history. I want to be a history professor and I hope that I can captivate my students like this, with this level of excitement.

  • @elimcfly350
    @elimcfly350 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've always been a sucker for pirate stuff. This was funny and informative!

  • @Persnikity-yv3nh
    @Persnikity-yv3nh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This expert was a delight to listen to.

  • @newlexican
    @newlexican ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If only everyone could have the passion for their work that Iszi has...

  • @hijklmnop42
    @hijklmnop42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The final 4 minutes of this video are such a good primer on why people became pirates!

  • @sarahr8311
    @sarahr8311 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:10 I appreciate that they felt the need to point out that undead pirates aren't accurate😂

  • @VladDraculaIII
    @VladDraculaIII 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always fascinating how obvious a pirate Long John Silver was, is, but he's so charismatic he almost fooled everyone

  • @ATVOffroadFurry
    @ATVOffroadFurry ปีที่แล้ว +8

    that was awesome! PLEASE Do more with Izzy!

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 1950s version of Treasure Island is so good EVERY pirate now sounds like Long John Silver, even though technically Long John just sounds like the actor Robert Newton doing an impression of real sailors he knew.

  • @EmmaEquinox
    @EmmaEquinox ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I really want a part two with this person, and I wanna know their thoughts on Our Flag Means Death

  • @icooper124
    @icooper124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “..when he’s an old man and his leg still hasn’t grown back…” Brilliant line. 21:33

    • @Blueberryyymuffin
      @Blueberryyymuffin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When she said that I legit forgot humans don’t grow back limbs lol

  • @MKei-nr5tl
    @MKei-nr5tl ปีที่แล้ว +28

    No, the Black Pearl depicted here is not equivalent to a British warship. It's equivalent to a Dutch pinnace (not to be confused with a small English pinnace). Having crewed aboard a Dutch pinnace, I have marched around a capstan, but we raised our anchors with the windlass, not the capstan. Took 8-12 men to raise, not 300. The anchor for a ship the size of the Black Pearl is only 900 pounds. It's breaking it loose that's difficult.

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it takes 8-12 men to raise your pinnace, then you’re not very gay. 🤡
      If it takes 300 men? Not gay at all, I guess.

    • @derekdreke4990
      @derekdreke4990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always thought they would be pretty good at using the wind and leaving etc as a way to help themselves with the action. To me it would seem in some instances that even dropping the anchor could be a very frustrating thing 🤔 I always wondered about what would happen having it get stuck or entangled in coral and also knowing where and when to use it even

  • @HistorysRaven
    @HistorysRaven ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's such a small thing, but I love her face after saying "... they didn't think Somalis didn't have ladders!"

  • @johnslaughter5475
    @johnslaughter5475 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Not bad, but she missed one huge inaccuracy in Treasure Island. This took place long before the invention of smokeless gunpowder. That cabin would have been full of smoke and visibility would have been near zero.

  • @Pikepaw
    @Pikepaw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    24:00 “there we have the most beautiful woman on the planet…who is also a pig” . From the mouth of the expert herself! It is a statement I find no fault in. The actress Miss Piggy is absolutely fabulous!

  • @christophwolf663
    @christophwolf663 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I loved this but I think it’s missing quite a few of the classics, especially Captain Blood, of course. The Sea Hawk could have been fun, Against all Flags. In short: Bring her back for part 2!

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Bring Her Back For part 2” is my favourite film. Who says sequels are never better than the original movie?

  • @newgabe09
    @newgabe09 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thisis terrific! Love this woman and her respect for muppets :)

  • @Raida7
    @Raida7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "if you can't fit Miss Piggy into a movie, is it a movie?"
    that is the kind of historical analysis I can get behind!

  • @dinahd50
    @dinahd50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A small point regarding Captain Phillips: according to interviews I've seen on TH-cam with the actor who played Musa ("I'm the captain now'), the pirates who captured the ship were Somalis from Minneapolis. Other extras may have been Somalis living in Somalia, but not the ones who took the ship over.
    That's minor, though. Her comments are aweome and I agree that I'd like to hear her take on Our Flag Means Death.

  • @widgren87
    @widgren87 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If they ever do a second Pirate episode I hope they cover the 1990 version of Treasure Island starring Charlton Heston and Christian Bale.

  • @Giondi
    @Giondi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Barbosa and his crew didn't hurt Elizabeth because they needed her (or thought they did at that point in the movie), her threat to drop the medallion had nothing to do with it. She "negotiated" with them to get them to do exactly what they were already planning to do. They let her think she won to make the voyage easier on themselves.

  • @TLB7476
    @TLB7476 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see this done with shows like Black Sails, where they had more time to tell in depth stories about the day to day life... Or Peter Pan and Hook!

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:05 "You'd best start believing in ghost story. You're in one."
    Great line.

  • @breezus3928
    @breezus3928 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Iszi is hilarious and I learned a lot! Adding to the cries to have her back to review Black Sails.

  • @constantinvasiliev2065
    @constantinvasiliev2065 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure to listen to a genuine expert fond of their area of expertise

  • @pszczolka80
    @pszczolka80 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love pirate history, it's so interesting. Would love to see a video on something like the myths and reality of pirates.

    • @derekdreke4990
      @derekdreke4990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is actually a really really good one I watch all the time just type in pirates and it will say tales of the high seas and highwaymen it's really really good and in depth probably one of the greatest vids I have ever found

  • @greeneyedxvampiress
    @greeneyedxvampiress ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was so fun to watch! I learned so much, and Iszi made it so interesting!

  • @nevernudemolerat4537
    @nevernudemolerat4537 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Do Black Sails and Our Flag Means Death next!