I was going to ask that but then I thought in the very beginning of the interview Corey asked him to explain something and he replied with, can you help me understand what it is I'm explaining . That's the only thing I could come up with but I could be wrong @@paigesamuels8555
YES, in due time and season, let THE SPIRIT have HIS way! Remember when those church folk got mad and tried to throw Christ JESUS off that cliff that day, becoming infuriated at what HE did say? (Luke 4:28-30, HOLY GHOST Inspired AKJV Bible, as translated out of the original tongues).
You are 100% wrong, you make the statement because if affects you, there isn’t a sin the Christian’s can’t do, confessing your sin is agreeing with God that we wretched and undone capable of all sin just like Hitler, Jeffery Dahimer, all sin separates us from God, a proudl look or mass murder. Sin have different consequences on earth but a proud look is the same as it relates to your ability to stand before God.
@@ronflowers4139No one said it was acceptable, here is what we know, you are not sinless, their sin is not worse then yours all sins separate you from God.
@diegodeluna4364 go back and read the book of acts, Peter repented OK, and had a change of heart after the lord Jesus christ corrected him. Read the book of acts carefully and slowly so you don't miss what is said in the holy bible. 🇬🇧🇯🇲
I think Joel would rather have a UK pagan than an African Christian. Culture over Christ all the way. He may not say it, but he means it; at least in terms of the flavor of his statements. Back handed insult to the body of Christ throughout the world.
@@scottbailey9242 not sure why he has such a problem with other cultures even if their not Christian. Americas always been diverse. We should celebrate it not be afraid of it.
@@dankodde6721why should we be accepting of the satanist blaspheming the Christian God? In Matthew 10 Jesus himself said that he came to divide people on account of Him. Americans during its founding were not too welcoming of pagan religions erecting their high places of worship in open blasphemy against the true and living God. Israel was judged by God for allowing temples to pagan false gods being erected in their high places. Neutrality is a myth and if you think that Christians will be able to live peaceably with people like the satanist in the future than your grossly mistaken. If Christianity is the true religion than why allow other false religions to enter our land. Your understanding of church history as it relates to American history is flawed.
Again, just speaking for me. Did that truth cause those Heavenly angels to shout "AMEN, HALLELUJAH, GLORY?" Do we not discern that it is true? He may not see it, IF racism has blinded the heart of him, of me, of you!
19:21 so rather than seeing his Hindu neighbor FIRST as someone who needs Jesus, he is worried about them “fighting for his children”?? His first reaction isn’t concern about the souls of the lost, but instead it is whether they will protect his kids in the Civil War 2.0 that I’m sure he thinks is just around the corner. These are NOT the right priorities for a Christian to have.
Exactly 🙄 why not see Hindu neighbors as a the nations coming to his front door, ready for evangelism? The harvest fields are being handed to him and he's worried about the ethnic and cultural purity of his surroundings 🙄 ridiculous.
Joel has a bias towards people who do not look like him he is not loving his neighbor as himself nor would he help that neighbor because of his racism/bias
It's not justifying slavery, it's pointing out that slavery was a thing all over the world, it was normal. No need to try and crucify one group over something that was seen as normal. So normal in fact, that even God didn't have a problem with it.
It's a fact that they did. American slavery was not unique to America. We were unique in the fact that we outlawed it. Slavery is not the unforgiveable sin.
@neotune819, you need to study African history and Arab history to understand that slavery was normal. As an African myself, I have been very vocal against this pretence that the whites were bad for buying slaves. The african chiefs got very rich with slave trade. They are equally to be blamed for the transatlantic slave trade. Blaming Americans alone is ignorant about true history. Africans had a big hand to play in it. He is right. American whites cannot be blamed alone for this.
@@PettyCrow-n9c God didn't have a problem with slavery? Sent his son to die a cruel death for sins like slavery. You think God's okay with injustice? You must not be saved
I'm a black woman listening to this from the UK. There are so many shocking moments in this it's hard to keep up. I suspected for a while there was something not quite right about this guy. There is no grace in him. And he's right, by their fruits ye shall know them. Thanks for this interview, Corey.
@ericfranklin4092 Well, for one. America and the West get a bad rap for slavery. Slavery was all over the world all over time. The West got into the game late but was the first to end it and was even instrumental in forcibly ending Slavery in other parts of the world. The Calvinist in me knows that God used African slavery for the betterment of African slaves descendants. I am one of those decendants. I will never forget the video when a reporter asked Mohammad Ali, "Champ, what did you think of Africa?" Ali replied, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"
@@rogervincent2092 You are a rare one, bro. I'm glad do see it. People also don't understand that his comments are about a system and about societal trends, not really about individual persons. I really don't expect women to be best at talking in an emotionally challenging point and respond with cold logic.
Why does Joel think American culture will be around forever. Nations come and go. If anything, the Kingdom of God will be more Jewish in terms of cultural style.
I thought everyone who grew up in a culture that makes them look back with warm feelings wants that same culture for their kids. A culture we know feels safe and sturdy, optimised for a wonderful future.
@@LilacDaisy2any culture is ultimately errant and doomed to crumble if it isn’t founded upon faith in Christ, predicated on unity/equality under Christ, purified by the blood of Christ, regenerated by the Holy Spirit. Cultures may give you a place to feel welcomed, but they also have dark sides you might not be so eager to acknowledge. Not everyone sees the good side of existing in a culture. Bullying for example, exists in schools, but we look back somewhat fondly over our time spent there right? Cruelty, or more accurately ungodliness, is prevalent in all cultures, and, as a lifelong American, I can see that American culture is in no wise good
@@just_a_strange_traveler I'm Australian, and even though I was the only child in my grade at school who had faith in Christ, I still don't know of another country's culture I would have preferred here on Earth. Which country is better than your country right now, that you would rather live in
This was extremely frustrating to listen to. The truth is, not all who claim to be Christian are actual followers of Christ. Not all who claim to be Christian will be accepted by Christ. This racist guy should spend far less time spewing hatred & ignorance, & spend more time studying, dissecting, & praying for understanding & wisdom of the Word of Jesus Christ. Matthew 25:35-45 is where this guy & those like him can find the heart of Christ
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! That is why, in this present life, no matter what, no matter who may come or go, we must be in that place in Christ JESUS of Nazareth, where no one, no thing, no self, can cause us to let Christ JESUS go! In our next life to come, Revelation 21:1-4 sums up what you cannot imagine, and it is so! We must keep in mind that with the FREE WILL that GOD ALMIGHTY has given us ALL, our deeds will send us up into HIS new Paradise Heaven and and Earth, or our deeds will cause us to be FOREVER separated by that great gulf, as into Hell we will fall! As never before, now is the time to get in The Book, take a look; have we TRULY done unto ALL others, as we would have ALL others do unto us? This can only be true when we have the mind of Christ JESUS! Will it be well? Once cast in, there is never departure from tormenting Hell!
Joel remind me of the gas station clerk who watches me walk through the store the whole time meanwhile the white Spanish guy in the back stealing all the candy..true story
A lot of people keeps talking about investments and how investment trade change their lives. I really need to engage myself in someway of earning more income and stop depending on the government...
A born again person must believe that all people are created in the image of God and musy treat all people accordingly. Southern planation would have lost their wealth but Jesus said count the cost. It can cost all ( including one's life to follow Christ).
Listened to this a few times and I just cannot see how Joel doesn't see how his bigotry is incompatible with Christianity. We should be looking at our neighbors as the harvest and we are the laborers. Each example that Joel provided had to do with making a judgement based on ethnicity or cultural dress.
Yes he is racist a true Christian loves their neighbour no matter what race or culture he should use that opportunity that his neighbour is hindu to talk to them about Christ i mean that's our mission as Christians to spread the gospel of Christ.
I was a theatre sister in uk and I didn’t care what colour the surgeon was as long as he or she knew what they were doing the only problem was accents ! Now that includes french as well as Indian and THAT was my only problem understanding people on yes and Scottish other people from uk will get that one so no race had NOTHING to do with it but people can make it about race is the problem!!!!!
The war in the USA is here and upon us. Joel recognizes this and is actively partaking in the fight while his detractors are still in a Cold War mindset.
To be fair Cory it seemed like the 2 first videos you played you misinterpreted what was said. He actually made valid points about the hypocrisy from the left...
To be fair, you need to listen better. There was no misinterpretation. This has zero to do with politics and him bringing politics into it proves Cory's point.
Racism is when a person is treated worse, excluded, disadvantaged, harassed, bullied, humiliated or degraded because of their race or ethnicity. I don't believe Joel does this.
@@zimmoton3698 I wouldn't say he's rxcists from what we were presented but he is hurt/wounded because the Left and revolutionary black american culture (yes I'm black american) have essentially been anti-American, anti-Christ and anti-white American. He's responding incorrectly but I get why he feels the way he does, if he truly is rxcists then Christ will only know that.
I will not accuse this man of being racist if he devoutly denies it. However, he holds strong biases that I do not find to be biblically supported and therefore I pray that he finds correction and repents.
@heisaltogetherlovely7235 why would you just out of the blue ask a question like that? As believers i don't see how it's productive and one that we should be asking of one another? Idc, fill in the blank with any other race. It's still unproductive.
Joel isn’t Christian. He’s a “cultural Christian”. He’s an admirer of steeples and cathedrals and art, not Christian virtues like love, mercy and kindness. Joel is Judge Claude Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame. He wants to project an air of righteousness and Christianity, but his heart is full of prejudice and pride. Christianity was born in the Middle East. Christianity has more adherents who are African, Latino or Asian than white Anglo-Saxon, Nordic or Greco-Roman Europeans.
@@kafranklin5 because Corey knows how to say things in love for the most part . But changing the way he says it isn't going to change him. You make a good point. Man needs a change of heart not change of speech . Got to clean the inside then words will follow.
I hate to say this but you’re trying to help him change his wording by making suggestions that he should make his racist statements more likeable .The way he speaks about other people it’s disgusting.Lets say for argument sake Haitians practice voodoo to say that the ones that are here are doing it it’s disgusting.Don’t try to help this guy change the way he words his racist comments
@@stephenneutralharris9162 good point . Corey trying to change his wording when the focus should be his sinful heart. Guess Corey seems to think he's alright just has to word it differently. He's not alright.
I will keep this short. Corey is wrong when he tells Joel that he is at fault for slander against him because he refuses to change his language to keep slanderers from having ammunition. Also, I think it's a great thing that slanderers show themselves. It's just too bad that Corey is arguing for their side.
Slavery was in Africa before the US and Islam. Europeans did us no favor. Moreover, if he really repents make it right economically, educationally and medically. Reparations!
US Chattel Slavery was a new and the most extreme form and system of slavery ever created, strictly to race, in perpetuity and more vicious than any other. The enslaved has absolutely no rights. But you keep telling yourself that tale.
since joel thinks slavery is ok then will HE be MY slave??? you cannot support slavery unless you are willing to be my slave which means you will be my PROPERTY that I can do anything I want to with.
This is not about race. I'm black and I see this is about culture. It's the same thing as our black churches. Music is important to EVERY culture. If one day more Hispanics showed up to a black church and all of a sudden the music changed because we became more Hispanic than black, black people would object not because of the people coming to the church, but because of the change in the music or the way we started doing things. New introduced cultures tend to take over. What EVERYONE is missing is a very human part of this. IT'S grief. It's the loss of what was. That's all. If you go in a grocery store, you notice that over the years, the music playing has changed. This has to be hard for a patron who has been going there for years. T.V. changed, cultural norms change. I am 50, and I miss the America we were in the 80s. Does that make me racist? Black neighborhoods are filling up with Hispanics. That changes the sounds you hear the smells you smell. The stores change. On and on. Why can't anyone understand that. We have been conditioned to think everything is racist. This is the first time I have ever disagreed with Corey. This pastor is complicating something very simple. We are all still children inside. We don't want our house to change. One day, people won't know who the Winans are. That hurts a little. Our American way is changing fast because of globalism. The saddest thing is that instead of our Christian church having influence, America seems to only be offering offensive antiChrist things into the world. Let's concentrate on our Biblical duty to spread the Gospel and give people GRACE TO GRIEVE the loss of a culture. I am grieving, too. He needs to learn to let go and let God. This man is not racist. He is hurting. Corey, please understand his culture is dying. It's painful. It's already started in Chicago and New York.
You balme the consequences to you're hisorty an U.S. people. Till this day they continue sin. Read Bible. God hands over a nation like historical Isreal out of disobedience.
@@kgar5Stringwell sort of.... how would you know who worked harder? A kid who grew up with crack parents and got straight As at a hood school? Or a kid that had wealthy parents and got straight As at a private school?
You do know that eighty-three percent of Affirmative Action went to White women even though it was implemented to address historical to present anti-Black policies throughout society? But due to r*cism it still didn't go to Black Americans.
You should be able to acknowledge that D.E.I has very negative effects and it’s caused people to doubt women and minorities. It’s fair to think that way.
@@kgar5String Because like all things in this world, they change over time. Having to answer what language is no big deal. If that is what you are bothered with, then God help you because he came to save those from all nations.
This is not America's problem. America's problem is pretending that racial categorization is real. Every country in the world wants people who belong to their tribe to be around them. It is not unique to Americans.
Gential was cut off. Pregnant woman had their babies ripped from the womb, etc. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, etc. I dont see how southern planatation owners can agree with this and still be a true Christian.
The same way you can lie, be selfish, have proud look and be a Christian, unless you never sinned since saved, you are in the same post it ion, there are some sins you have battled your whole life and will still battling when you leave here, are you still christian?
I don't like tossing around the word "racist", because its overused and has lost some of it's uumph. That being said, i felt very uncomfortable as a Negro, black, ADOS/FBA/Freedman/ African-American (other bywords) Christian listening to this man speak. Be a kingdom citizen, let your light shine, vote values and let God do His work. We do not need a "Christian" nation, we'll have that in the hereafter. The founding fathers were majority Freemasons anyway.
Unless Christ is ruling on earth which in millennium He will even if a government had all Christians now still have old creation soon fall down anyway making people go to church won’t do anything only preaching The Gospel does
No one is “tossing” around the word racist. They’re calling it for what it is. Unless of course you think YOUR perception is much more accurate than everyone else. Also, when is it proper to call someone a racist? I’ve never seen a racist standing at an intersection yelling “yes, I am a racist and proud of it”. Would that be the only time you would “toss” the word around?
I love you, Cory, my brother in Christ. But let's not reach! Immigrating different cultures by the thousands and placing them in different parts of this country is not good. It has nothing to do race/ skin color. But everything to do with swiftly changing dynamics of an area. This includes schools (ESL.etc) and economics because we have our taxpayers footing the bill for housing, health, .etc. I'm speaking as a black woman. I understand what he is saying and living in Greater Cincinnati area you can see the change. Don't make this about race it is much deeper!
The assumption she's not qualified is because of DEI. Because of past inequality, tradition or whatever barriers you want to blame, there are positions for which there are not as many women as men qualified to hold them. If companies implement DEI policies, the number of qualified women to hire will be exhausted long before the number of men. HR will then have to hire less qualified women to get the number of DEI-mandated hires. It's simple statistics and demographics.
Agreed. After this chat, there needn’t be others. Think this is at least his 3rd appearance. The first time seemed to be an introduction to JW. This one and the one from a couple weeks ago is when JW is directly refuted. A divisive brother is to be warned twice, after that have nothing more to do with him. I think the last appearance should have been the cutoff, but certainly this one needs to be it.
@@MKS20KW Right, a man like him could open up dark portals just from speaking to him. He talks much and seems to upset many people. The God he serves can't think too much of others as his words alone centers around people of his race.
Corey, if you asked a Zimbabwean to choose which of an American family vs. a Zambian family he prefers to migrate to Zimbabwe, if he answered Zambian because cultural familiariy, etc. Would that be deemed problematic, too?
@@bobodka We are talking about Christians here. Christians should not be putting their race on a pedestal. In fact it should be Christ first, not race, culture, nationalism, politics...It should be Christ first.
@ifeifesi What if both American and Zimbian families are Christians, but Zimbabwean prefers the Zambian because in addition to faith, culture? Or consider that the Zambian is not Christian but Zimbabwean because he is of similar culture, believes they can relate the gospel more effectively to them and that in grand scheme being more important than having an American christian immigrate to their country?,
@@bobodka the right response is, I have a preference but I do not need to choose which neighbor I want, but will have to accept either. Simple. The truth to the initial question, a Zimbabwean or Zambian would prefer someone from a white led country, we have a disgusting white savior bias. Kindly keep your politics among yourselves, you would never understand, and you don't have to. Just don't use us as talking points
@@bobodka the right response is, I have a preference but I do not need to choose which neighbor I want, but will have to accept either. Simple. The truth to the initial question, a Zimbabwean or Zambian would prefer someone from a white led country, we have a disgusting white savior bias. Kindly keep your politics among yourselves, you would never understand, and you don't have to. Just don't use us as talking points
34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” John 13:34-35
Blood and soil is all that last clip was. No different than Germany in 1930s. The fatherland. These guys version of Christs 1000 year reign sounds a little like the German 1000 year Reicht.
The irony of him not seeing his neighboors as beautiful creations of God yet instead wonders if they will figjt a civil war againdt him 😂 The freak? Hindus looked more like jesus, ethnically, than he ever willl!!!😂
lol! At this point, Joel can’t be taken seriously. He scares me because I do believe he’s a problematic and divisive brother, if a brother. But his M.O. has been the same for the past two years, and that’s become comical to witness. He’ll say something utterly unbiblical and unhelpful. The Saints will call him out for it. He claims he’s “misunderstood”. Rinse and repeat. His premise for Christian Nationalism is not of the Spirit of Christ. If all or most choose to vote for mostly Christian candidates, so be it from a political perspective. But making the concerted effort by Believers to establish a Christian Nation this side of heaven isn’t God’s call for His people. That’s not supposed to be our focus. If we could instead start a charge to pray, preach and praise with all boldness in this land for the sake of saving souls, I could get with his eagerness. But this is an EARTHLY plight by a mortal man who happens to be a pastor and a pro at gaslighting the undiscerning. Consider that this conversation is NOT about proclaiming Christ’s Gospel, it’s about how white people have been hoodwinked and need to take this country back. This guy is not to be heeded or taken seriously…and after the requisite times to warn him to stop his shenanigans, it’s way past time to have NOTHING to do with him.
Constance! I've been listening to your podcast and reading your blog for years. I was gonna comment that I couldn't have said it better, but then I realized it was you who made the comment--no wonder the comment was so well said. Nice to see you here. 🙂
Well said! Instead of pointing to Christ and His love for ALL mankind, this brother's rhetoric is divisive, distracting, and humanistic. The focus of his speech is self-centered and temporal, instead of being Christ-centered and biblical.
@@nathaniellewis5233 you're confusing Christianity with postwar consensus. I'm willing to bet you can't name a single essential doctrine he's on the wrong side of.
@james7188 Postwar Consensus? 🤣 I'm just talking about him being an arrogant prick and just obnoxious for the sake of being obnoxious. Also being a CN.
What part do you agree with...now mind you, I don't know if he is a racist or not...but I'm curious as to why make the statement "I'm a black woman" and then state you agree with him?
What exactly is "Hindu garb"? Surely not the clothing. If anything, the dot on the forehead. What's shocking is Joel is worried if he can trust such a person to be a good neighbor, all the while rejecting the opportunity to be one.
@enChristos23 exactly. I'm not into the liberal "everything is racist" BLM nonsense, but Joel is just ridiculous. I actually live in his area. I went to a conference of his back in 2022 or so, and stayed there only for a few minutes. I looked over at him and i could just feel the snobbery and arrogance coming from this man. I went only because I was going to a Reformed church at the time. I really don't like calling people racists, but I think it's pretty clear that cultural--and possibly ethnic purity--is Joel's focus, NOT Christ. He should view Hindus are a field for harvest. What an embarrassing shame. He really needs to stop and shut down his so called ministry.
DEI Has destroyed the trust that this country used to have in professionals. From aviation to lawyers, they’ve lowered the standards for everything to accommodate POTENTIAL LESS INTELLIGENT AND SKILLED PEOPLE…. And that’s scary.
It's hard to not view this guy as a 🤡 If he cared as much for, & spoke about the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness as much as his "American heritage" 🙄 but he will have his reward
Why can't there be a commonsense policy on immigration? It is neither wise to overwhelm communities with migrants nor shut down migration. If policy makers disagree, they can prove me wrong by settling about 30% of their own neighborhoods with migrants in a short period of time... It is easy to be virtueous when you push the cost unto others.
The problem I have with this video is that Joel is so on fire for America and not enough for the Faith of Jesus Christ. I understand he has concerns as it pertains to people who aren’t from here, but you have to have the same energy no matter who comes here. What I see more from Joel, unfortunately, is fear of people that don’t look like him. And that is not becoming of a Pastor who is called to serve. Jesus was and is not like this. He is far better and we owe it to Him to strive to be better than when He was here as it says in the scripture that better works shall we do.
Dude Moses was despised by the congregation of Israel and they lied about him too. People misunderstood Job, and David, and they misunderstood God and His Son Jesus Christ. People rejected Isaiah, Jeremiah's words, and so on. People misunderstood Paul as well. So when people twist this white man's words, it does not reflect bad on him, it reflects bad on the listeners. I heard what the man said. I never thought what he said sounded racist or prejudiced in an evil way. I am a black man too.
It's called consequences of U.S. history. Till this day people sin. That's why God, gave them over to other nations. Joel also stated a lot of innacuracute steaments. Not to mention he wants 150 years an more of American heritage to count. Bit far.
@Mech-730 I stand my ground. It's only people that seem cursed with being overly sensitive that have the issue with what he said about the Hindu and the white neighbor.
@Sean-e5r I never said race. Said Joel has innacuracies. Such as the Spanish colonized parts américas before the English. Cowboys originated in mexicao. 150 years or older to acknowledge immigrants of Americans is beyond Ludacris. Project 25. The lie about 25 million migrants came in 2024. Biggest problem? U.S. consequences have come. God hands over nations. He also should not be talking, let only preaching if he's not well versed in Bible. You also need to learn, the meaning of Decernment.
@Sean-e5r I never said race. Said Joel has innacuracies. Such the Spanish colonized américas before the English. Cowboys originated in mexicao. 150 years or older to acknowledge immigrants of Americans is beyond Ludacris. Project 25. The lie about 25 million migrants came in 2024. Biggest problem? U.S. consequences have come. God hands over nations. He also should not be talking, let only preaching if he's not well versed in Bible. You also need to learn, the meaning of Decernment.
😂 Bro, he wouldve given Jesus a wierd look if he mvoed in his neighboorhood! A 1st century middle eastern 😂 The idea that this dude claims to worship a guy who woulf look arab and muslim today is hilarious😂
*Thank you so much for speaking up about this man, when there is silence, even from those whose whole platform is pointing out errors of preachers. OTHER THINGS THIS MAN SAYS: -Women should wear head coverings. -Christian women who prioritise a career over getting married and having kids are not saved. -Noble bloodlines = courageous men. -You're sinning if you don't homeschool. - "We should go back to hating the sin AND the sinner." I had no idea this atrocity was happening until I researched him. Justin Peters was even on his show!
He's trying to say that African villages and countries fought against each other. And enslaved the losers. Many different Indian tribes fought and made slaves out of the losers. They were selling their African slaves to other people outside of their own country😅
I truly do NOT believe that Webbon is racist. The host, who has a great channel, kept referencing “it comes across as” and “branding.” But the problem here is being a slave to how people will perceive you rather than letting the truth stand. Optics have far too high a place in his economy
News flash Joel: Babylon was "blessed", The Assyrian Empire was "blessed", the nation of Israel was "blessed", not because of their righteousness, but in spite of their evil and rebellious ways. The arrogance of mind to suggest that America is no different is astounding.
Totally disagree with his position on Donald Trump and Project 2025. The fact that he is being untruthful about this obvious and provable fact disqualifies almost anything he has to say because that tells me he is covering up something
This is the problem with White Christian Nationalists! How do you guys expect unity among other ethnic groups and your views towards them are ungodly? This the same groups that go on missions and minister throughout Africa to impose their beliefs, but when these groups move to America, you are fearful that they may impose their beliefs on America. I am confused. Our job is to love people out of their fallen state and spread the gospel to all humanity. Lastly, you talk about slavery as though it was a light thing. Slavery, Jim Crow laws and other systematic issues have set African Americans back (I am not making excuses). I do not believe in pandering to the left neither do I believe that this generation should be responsible for the sins of their forefathers. However, I believe their needs to should be a display of humility, empathy and talks about progressive change to correct some of the systemic injustice. Christians should be looking at every issue holistically.
I'm a nurse, and I have worked with all kinds of healthcare professionals from all walks of life, and I have never said to myself, "You must have been a DEI hire." I know if they are good or not solely based on what they do.
What do we mean by American? Rule of law? Constitutional protections? Freedom from Gov intrusion and violation? Separation of church and state? Religious freedom ( as long as no one is getting hurt)? This to me is what American is about.
Watching Cory and Joel duel over who was responsible for introducing the term, "African-American," was a hoot. Cory blamed the white man and Joel blamed the Jews. Talk about racial scapegoating. There's a SNL sketch in there somewhere. Thankfully, the Yale Alumni Magazine has come to the rescue. Jesse Jackson is credited with popularizing the term as an alternative to "black" in the 1980s, although the term has an older -- and apparently noble -- history. I quote ... "The Oxford English Dictionary traced its documented occurrences of 'African American' back as far as 1835. (The related term 'Afro-American,' which enjoyed a brief popularity in the 1960s, has an 1831 citation in the OED.) ... a routine search for the phrase in America’s Historical Newspapers, the Readex company’s very powerful database of early US papers, ... led to a 1782 sermon published in Philadelphia. The sermon, whose only known surviving copy is at Harvard’s Houghton Library, was titled 'A Sermon on the Capture of Lord Cornwallis.' The title page of the pamphlet includes the byline 'By an African American.'" I suggest you read the piece -- it's great. It appears the author of the sermon was black and the intent -- given that the colonists had just secured their independence from Britain by defeating Cornwallis -- "may indeed have been strategically aimed at integrating blacks into the new social and political order. This notion fits nicely with the author's byline: 'an African American.' The idea that blacks might be part of American society was in the air by the 1760s." Jews?!?!?!? Good grief. GOOGLE:["Origin of African-American" "Yale Alumni Magazine"]
The argument that others did it too is a horrible position as a believer. Our position is to always repent of your own sins and then encourage others to do the same by demonstrating the goodness of God.
I would point Corey to Philemon and say yes. There is absolutely a difference between how a Christian had slaves and how a non Christian would have slaves. Slavery is still absolutely wrong, and is not in the same sense as slaves in the ancient middle east. I will say I think the slavery in America was worse in principle and ethic because these weren't slaves by choice, they were bought. Typically the slaves in the ancient middle east were by choice and had a chance to leave after a while (not always the case) especially in Greek and Jewish culture. I do agree with Joel that America no more or less guilty than other countries, but to downplay slavery is past okay.
Why do you people keep comparing? Was slavery good or bad? A slave master who's Christian still had slaves, was it right? If it was not, don't excuse it and stay working with the present. Don't idolise anyone. All slave owners oppressed the people they enslaved, even if they gave them cookies. You guys get distracted so easily
I am not sure if Joe is a Christian🤔 By his fruits, I question him😔 I can only imagine what Joe is teaching in his home🥸 How does Joe know that his white brothers and sisters would fight for him? In my observation, Joe looks like he knows the truth, but publicity works better sense. Joe also needs to be more focus on his Christian heritage. Oh, boy, Joe is a trip. God, help us to love like you love🙏
Notice he never ever mentions that the majority of wealthy people in america are wealthy due to inheritance.... and the majority of those people are white men..... that level of unearned success doesnt bother him? But he wants to be mad at a system that rewards a straight A kid from the hood instead of a straight A kid from beverly hills. And im against affirmative action as well. But im consistent with my views on meritocracy
@NP-zs5ui Because it's wealth and power and influence given to kids who did not actually earn anything. For example, how many Harvard students are there because their parents are major donors or famous alumn... same for most universities in the US. A ton. Flats and sororities are full of kids who wouldn't have gotten into the university had their parents not been major alumni donors. This has been going sense universities were created. But somehow now all of a sudden he has an issue with unearned university acceptances now that a small trickle of poor black kids were given a free ride bc they managed to excel academically in extremely bad situations. Now I think DEI is ultimately a unsustainable way of solving the problem of inequality when it comes to opportunity. But the reasons for attacking it that racists are giving are not consistent critiques. The critique of DEI should be that we should be that for all adult level qualifications, there should be a common standard. If a large group of kids appear to be way out of step with the rest of society with meeting that standard proportionally to their counterparts, that's a sign that there's a systematic issue that begins at birth for these people.... If we can address those issues, and solve the root causes, them we don't need to worry about trying to fix that issue when they're applying school. For example, all schools should have the same amount of books, the same student to teacher ratios, the same budget, the same amount of university prep and sat prep ect.... there should be no reason why a kid in a black community should be any less prepared than a kid in public schools in wealthy areas..... their education experience should be identical in rigor. Well unfortunately we have a system where we determine k-12 public funding based on property taxes. That is the most obvious natural classist education system. For example, in pro sports performing teams always get the first picks in the drafts. Why? Because we all know that in order to keep competitive and fair playing fiend from year to year, we have to constantly level the playing field with OPPURTUNITY to prevent a monopoly or a run away dynasty. Our education system is like if the Kansas City cheifs get the number one picks every time they win a super bowl 😂😂😂 ummmm yeah they'll never loose a game for a million years and at some point they will literally be a team of hall of famers vs a bunch of second rate players. Well what's worse with education system is that it's not entertainment, and it's children instead of adults.....
The Uk is a Christian country Corey and as a Black British man I can tell you that. On the immigration side the country is spilt but we are pretty much together that illegal immigration’s has to stop
The way he salivates when he talks about the good ol' days when Jonathan Edwards took communion with his slaves. 😂*sigh* I'm 15 min. in but I can't do it... I'm at the point in my black life where I can longer give my emotional energy to people like Joel. 🤣😅 Praying God has mercy on us all! I'm so glad that He knows the truth in all things and that JESUS IS LORD! He'll take us all, regardless of our race. AMEN!
Been listening for 5 mins. Here is what the issue is. He's a white Christian nationalist. The sooner it is recognised that these 'followers of Jesus' worship their skin. We don't need a whole hour to discuss this.
I mean what are the rebuttals for joel? I'm a theonomist...so i disagree with stephen wolfe Christian Nationalism....but what are the rebuttals for joel?
@@3-dmanhood974 just doesn't want to see Hindus in his neighborhood. But he's not racist. America is made up of many different cultures. Think he sees them as a threat instead of loving them and maybe even learning from them. He's more of a klan mindset than Christianity. Tried to cover his biases up with being a Christian. Doesn't sound like a very good one if he is one at all
If we shut down the military and declare open borders, perhaps God will ordain Iranian terrorists and the Chinese communist army to be all our neighbors.
I’m a black guy and I’ve followed Joel Webbon for a couple of years now and no I don’t think he’s racist. As a matter of fact, I think he’s spot on with a lot of things.
The DEI point is valid, even if it sounds harsh. While I do share some beliefs with Joel, I think his views are too extreme and something about him just rubs me the wrong way. I don't know if it's his arrogance or what, but I don't find him to be trustworthy.
@alondraprietomartinez I agree with your statement. I do not like BLM, liberals nonsense, and im not one of those "everything is racist" people. I actually live in Joel's area and attended a conference of his back in 2022. I went because I agreed with some of his points. I didn't stay long, though. I looked over at him, and he was just dripping with smug arrogance. In the past two years, he's just been saying some crazy stuff. I think it's clear his focus is cultural (and possibly, ethnic) purity, NOT Christ. Now, I lean Reformed and I'm not a person who is emotionally led. But I think you are discerning when you say he isn't trustworthy, and he's arrogant. He needs to stop. Pride comes before a fall.
As an African American, I agree with Joel on this one. Especially on his point about Stonewall Jackson and MLK. Sometimes, it seems that it is hard for people to look at things purely through a biblical/scriptural worldview. The title of this video (Is this Pastor Racist?) holds an implied bias/belief about Joel. You are calling Joel out about how he says/word things, then you post a video with the word “Racist” in the title. It comes off a bit hypocritical. The wording of the title should have been different.
What are the optics like for this person called Joel? His words give off raciste sentiments. It's a question in the title. If you agree with him, then asks the optics of your world view be questioned. Are you raciste for siding with someone that has issues with a neighbour having a different culture from them?
The inherent problem with this “pastor” stems from his eschatology. He has some salient points about culture but when you look at the signs of the times Jesus is coming soon, not a Christian world without Him. I’m 70 and have seen the degradation of culture worldwide. It ain’t changing, but by God’s grace we can participate in changing hearts one at a time. Time is short!
Not all Haitians practice voodoo. Some latinos practice santeria and voodoo, some whites practice witchcraft. No ethnic group is immune from some form of witchcraft.
Calvin Robinson a Black young man from England who was denied Ordination in the Anglican Church,partly because like this Pastor he calls out the invasion of Indian and others in England. He is now in USA seeing what he fled from.
The problem is he doesn’t even see the correlation between the impact of slavery and why DEI even became a thing. Maybe DEI wasn’t implemented properly as a good solution, but we have to admit the impact racism had on black people in America and it directly correlates to why so many are below the poverty line. Yes other countries have committed atrocities and none are innocent.. but we live in America. So we’re focused on the impact slavery has had on America and the descendants of those slaves in America. Even after slavery there was Jim Crow. To talk about other countries and say “what about them” deflects from the issue at hand. Black people 100% helped build this country. That’s not to take away from all of the great businessmen and founding fathers.. but America does not become the America it is today without 400 years of slave labor.
Good job guys…You both have valid points👌🏿🙏🏿I think “sensitivities” around race clouds the ability to have sincere conversations…We should give space that some have sincere sensitivities (valid or not) and give them grace. Likewise, we should give grace to our brothers in the Lord who are blind to sensitivities, and not assume they have bad or racist intentions because they have blind spots 🙏🏿Americanism (prioritizing American culture and values) is not the same as racism, and we should give grace around this thought👌🏿👊🏿
@@kvnmcgary sometimes giving grace is rebuking someone on their blind spots. Don't believe this pastor is open to correction however. I find his views very racist, especially the clips Corey showed. God's grace calls for correction.
@@dankodde6721 when I consider whether someone is racist, I consider “malignancy” and “malevolence,” not their personal “preferences.” I don’t sense malevolence in his thinking. If we don’t attach malevolence to intentions, we lose the gravity and weight of what racism really is🤔 If we continue down this track whereas racism is subjectively defined and redefined, it loses its definition.
@@kvnmcgary disagree. Way he talks about Hindu neighbors and other immag6is very racist. Invite them over for dinner, love them, learn from them. That's what a true born again Christian would do. And his talk on slavery. Clips Corey showed. Are you kidding me. Don't let that intellectual talk fool you. He's not right. And yes he is racist. But he'll never admit it.
@@kvnmcgary so if our personal preference is not to like minorities that's not racist? If for no other reason than their culture or religion because that's what he's doing
“Let your words always be with grace, seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should answer each person.”
Colossians 4:6
What do you mean by eisgeticsslly engaging with this statement
I was going to ask that but then I thought in the very beginning of the interview Corey asked him to explain something and he replied with, can you help me understand what it is I'm explaining . That's the only thing I could come up with but I could be wrong @@paigesamuels8555
YES, in due time and season, let THE SPIRIT have HIS way! Remember when those church folk got mad and tried to throw Christ JESUS off that cliff that day, becoming infuriated at what HE did say? (Luke 4:28-30, HOLY GHOST Inspired AKJV Bible, as translated out of the original tongues).
You cant be a true Christian and be racist. God is all about loving others.
Peter would like to have a word with you. He was a racist against gentiles and in fact still a Christian 🤷🏽♂️
That’s why Paul rebuked him. It is unacceptable.
You are 100% wrong, you make the statement because if affects you, there isn’t a sin the Christian’s can’t do, confessing your sin is agreeing with God that we wretched and undone capable of all sin just like Hitler, Jeffery Dahimer, all sin separates us from God, a proudl look or mass murder. Sin have different consequences on earth but a proud look is the same as it relates to your ability to stand before God.
@@ronflowers4139No one said it was acceptable, here is what we know, you are not sinless, their sin is not worse then yours all sins separate you from God.
@diegodeluna4364 go back and read the book of acts, Peter repented OK, and had a change of heart after the lord Jesus christ corrected him. Read the book of acts carefully and slowly so you don't miss what is said in the holy bible. 🇬🇧🇯🇲
I think Joel would rather have a UK pagan than an African Christian. Culture over Christ all the way. He may not say it, but he means it; at least in terms of the flavor of his statements. Back handed insult to the body of Christ throughout the world.
@@scottbailey9242 not sure why he has such a problem with other cultures even if their not Christian. Americas always been diverse. We should celebrate it not be afraid of it.
This is disturbing to to me,I don't care what he says..he's just racist!!!
@@dankodde6721why should we be accepting of the satanist blaspheming the Christian God? In Matthew 10 Jesus himself said that he came to divide people on account of Him. Americans during its founding were not too welcoming of pagan religions erecting their high places of worship in open blasphemy against the true and living God. Israel was judged by God for allowing temples to pagan false gods being erected in their high places. Neutrality is a myth and if you think that Christians will be able to live peaceably with people like the satanist in the future than your grossly mistaken. If Christianity is the true religion than why allow other false religions to enter our land. Your understanding of church history as it relates to American history is flawed.
Spot on. Just as you can't polish a turd , you can't cover a racist.
Again, just speaking for me. Did that truth cause those Heavenly angels to shout "AMEN, HALLELUJAH, GLORY?" Do we not discern that it is true? He may not see it, IF racism has blinded the heart of him, of me, of you!
Yes he is racist. No doubt about it. Tried to cover it up with his intellectual talk but doesn't work for me.
I agree but who isn’t?
@@dankodde6721 me neither. It's obvious that he thinks not too highly of other cultures. That's scary if he's a pastor
@@phylliswhite7279Since when does culture = race? There are terrible cultures and better ones.
Joel cares about the direction of our country with the stupid illegal and legal immigration going on.
@@kamarwashington I thought to use that word to basically be polite. Being polite with my words when referencing race or culture works for me.
19:21 so rather than seeing his Hindu neighbor FIRST as someone who needs Jesus, he is worried about them “fighting for his children”?? His first reaction isn’t concern about the souls of the lost, but instead it is whether they will protect his kids in the Civil War 2.0 that I’m sure he thinks is just around the corner. These are NOT the right priorities for a Christian to have.
Exactly 🙄 why not see Hindu neighbors as a the nations coming to his front door, ready for evangelism? The harvest fields are being handed to him and he's worried about the ethnic and cultural purity of his surroundings 🙄 ridiculous.
That's because he worships the flesh and bows down at the alter of the satan
@@Future-zx9ts good point. Definitely not seeing much love for the lost or other cultures in his statements.
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Joel has a bias towards people who do not look like him he is not loving his neighbor as himself nor would he help that neighbor because of his racism/bias
I hate when people try to justify slavery by saying other countries owned slaves too , it's like saying other countries rape and kill too .
It's not justifying slavery, it's pointing out that slavery was a thing all over the world, it was normal. No need to try and crucify one group over something that was seen as normal. So normal in fact, that even God didn't have a problem with it.
It's a fact that they did. American slavery was not unique to America. We were unique in the fact that we outlawed it. Slavery is not the unforgiveable sin.
@neotune819, you need to study African history and Arab history to understand that slavery was normal. As an African myself, I have been very vocal against this pretence that the whites were bad for buying slaves. The african chiefs got very rich with slave trade. They are equally to be blamed for the transatlantic slave trade. Blaming Americans alone is ignorant about true history. Africans had a big hand to play in it. He is right. American whites cannot be blamed alone for this.
@tyronedawson8553 Actually, American slavery is unique in that it is Chattel Slavery. African slavery and American slavery are VERY different.
@@PettyCrow-n9c God didn't have a problem with slavery? Sent his son to die a cruel death for sins like slavery. You think God's okay with injustice? You must not be saved
Seek ye first the kingdom and His righteousness...
Amen.
Salt and Light.
Amen
I'm a black woman listening to this from the UK. There are so many shocking moments in this it's hard to keep up. I suspected for a while there was something not quite right about this guy. There is no grace in him. And he's right, by their fruits ye shall know them. Thanks for this interview, Corey.
@@menow7903 you're right and he can't be serving the God that has grace and sent his son to save his trifling behind.
I am black and live in the American South. The pastor is correct, and Cory is wrong. Cory is guilty of chronological snobbery
@@rogervincent2092What is he right about?
@ericfranklin4092 Well, for one. America and the West get a bad rap for slavery.
Slavery was all over the world all over time. The West got into the game late but was the first to end it and was even instrumental in forcibly ending Slavery in other parts of the world.
The Calvinist in me knows that God used African slavery for the betterment of African slaves descendants. I am one of those decendants.
I will never forget the video when a reporter asked Mohammad Ali, "Champ, what did you think of Africa?" Ali replied, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"
@@rogervincent2092 You are a rare one, bro. I'm glad do see it. People also don't understand that his comments are about a system and about societal trends, not really about individual persons. I really don't expect women to be best at talking in an emotionally challenging point and respond with cold logic.
Why does Joel think American culture will be around forever. Nations come and go. If anything, the Kingdom of God will be more Jewish in terms of cultural style.
Because he's a nutcase and is a lightweight thinker and maybe lost a girlfriend to a black kid in middle school and has never forgotten it😂
Joel doesn’t think that he has a new series on Patreon 1st episode The term Judeochristian is a psyops. Whole series disparages Jews
I thought everyone who grew up in a culture that makes them look back with warm feelings wants that same culture for their kids. A culture we know feels safe and sturdy, optimised for a wonderful future.
@@LilacDaisy2any culture is ultimately errant and doomed to crumble if it isn’t founded upon faith in Christ, predicated on unity/equality under Christ, purified by the blood of Christ, regenerated by the Holy Spirit.
Cultures may give you a place to feel welcomed, but they also have dark sides you might not be so eager to acknowledge. Not everyone sees the good side of existing in a culture. Bullying for example, exists in schools, but we look back somewhat fondly over our time spent there right?
Cruelty, or more accurately ungodliness, is prevalent in all cultures, and, as a lifelong American, I can see that American culture is in no wise good
@@just_a_strange_traveler I'm Australian, and even though I was the only child in my grade at school who had faith in Christ, I still don't know of another country's culture I would have preferred here on Earth.
Which country is better than your country right now, that you would rather live in
This was extremely frustrating to listen to. The truth is, not all who claim to be Christian are actual followers of Christ. Not all who claim to be Christian will be accepted by Christ. This racist guy should spend far less time spewing hatred & ignorance, & spend more time studying, dissecting, & praying for understanding & wisdom of the Word of Jesus Christ. Matthew 25:35-45 is where this guy & those like him can find the heart of Christ
I really don't have my eschatology crunched out, but man.. could you imagine if the world turned toward Christ. Would be so incredible.
It will in the millennium and I can not wait either a good teacher on end times is Jacob prach of moriel God Bless x
Bull. Christianity has been racist
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Joel remind me of the gas station clerk who watches me walk through the store the whole time meanwhile the white Spanish guy in the back stealing all the candy..true story
Is the gas station clerk stupid, racist or conditioned by past experience?
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A born again person must believe that all people are created in the image of God and musy treat all people accordingly.
Southern planation would have lost their wealth but Jesus said count the cost.
It can cost all ( including one's life to follow Christ).
Listened to this a few times and I just cannot see how Joel doesn't see how his bigotry is incompatible with Christianity. We should be looking at our neighbors as the harvest and we are the laborers. Each example that Joel provided had to do with making a judgement based on ethnicity or cultural dress.
Yes he is racist a true Christian loves their neighbour no matter what race or culture he should use that opportunity that his neighbour is hindu to talk to them about Christ i mean that's our mission as Christians to spread the gospel of Christ.
Absolutely! I mean I totally agree with you x
I was a theatre sister in uk and I didn’t care what colour the surgeon was as long as he or she knew what they were doing the only problem was accents ! Now that includes french as well as Indian and THAT was my only problem understanding people on yes and Scottish other people from uk will get that one so no race had NOTHING to do with it but people can make it about race is the problem!!!!!
The war in the USA is here and upon us. Joel recognizes this and is actively partaking in the fight while his detractors are still in a Cold War mindset.
Joel is almost there. He should be honest and embrace his white nationalism.
If your race is the only thing you have to be proud of, I feel sorry for you.☹️
That is so true! Those devils that GOD ALMIGHTY said believe, AND tremble, know so too!
To be fair Cory it seemed like the 2 first videos you played you misinterpreted what was said. He actually made valid points about the hypocrisy from the left...
This has nlthing to do with politics hes racist period
To be fair, you need to listen better. There was no misinterpretation. This has zero to do with politics and him bringing politics into it proves Cory's point.
Totally disagree Corey did not misrepresent him at all
Racism is when a person is treated worse, excluded, disadvantaged, harassed, bullied, humiliated or degraded because of their race or ethnicity.
I don't believe Joel does this.
@@zimmoton3698 I wouldn't say he's rxcists from what we were presented but he is hurt/wounded because the Left and revolutionary black american culture (yes I'm black american) have essentially been anti-American, anti-Christ and anti-white American.
He's responding incorrectly but I get why he feels the way he does, if he truly is rxcists then Christ will only know that.
I will not accuse this man of being racist if he devoutly denies it. However, he holds strong biases that I do not find to be biblically supported and therefore I pray that he finds correction and repents.
Do you dislike Asian people
@@heisaltogetherlovely7235 I like asians but i dont like gays.
No, I do not dislike Asian people.
he is lying
this is how people become deceived
do not trust an avid liar
@heisaltogetherlovely7235 why would you just out of the blue ask a question like that? As believers i don't see how it's productive and one that we should be asking of one another? Idc, fill in the blank with any other race. It's still unproductive.
Joel isn’t Christian. He’s a “cultural Christian”. He’s an admirer of steeples and cathedrals and art, not Christian virtues like love, mercy and kindness.
Joel is Judge Claude Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame. He wants to project an air of righteousness and Christianity, but his heart is full of prejudice and pride.
Christianity was born in the Middle East. Christianity has more adherents who are African, Latino or Asian than white Anglo-Saxon, Nordic or Greco-Roman Europeans.
Christianity won't have all those African, Latin and Asian adherents if they immigrate here, will they?
This is because there are more Africans. This is easy to understand.
@@bobbbanar2158 excellent comment. 100% agree.
Why does he have to say it the way you want him to say it Corey?
@@kafranklin5 because Corey knows how to say things in love for the most part . But changing the way he says it isn't going to change him. You make a good point. Man needs a change of heart not change of speech . Got to clean the inside then words will follow.
I hate to say this but you’re trying to help him change his wording by making suggestions that he should make his racist statements more likeable .The way he speaks about other people it’s disgusting.Lets say for argument sake Haitians practice voodoo to say that the ones that are here are doing it it’s disgusting.Don’t try to help this guy change the way he words his racist comments
@@stephenneutralharris9162 good point . Corey trying to change his wording when the focus should be his sinful heart. Guess Corey seems to think he's alright just has to word it differently. He's not alright.
I will keep this short. Corey is wrong when he tells Joel that he is at fault for slander against him because he refuses to change his language to keep slanderers from having ammunition. Also, I think it's a great thing that slanderers show themselves. It's just too bad that Corey is arguing for their side.
Joel is at fault. He has to be accountable for his words, which are egregious.
Slavery was in Africa before the US and Islam. Europeans did us no favor. Moreover, if he really repents make it right economically, educationally and medically. Reparations!
Hehehehehe
US Chattel Slavery was a new and the most extreme form and system of slavery ever created, strictly to race, in perpetuity and more vicious than any other. The enslaved has absolutely no rights. But you keep telling yourself that tale.
Screw you and your reparations
since joel thinks slavery is ok then will HE be MY slave??? you cannot support slavery unless you are willing to be my slave which means you will be my PROPERTY that I can do anything I want to with.
This is not about race. I'm black and I see this is about culture. It's the same thing as our black churches. Music is important to EVERY culture. If one day more Hispanics showed up to a black church and all of a sudden the music changed because we became more Hispanic than black, black people would object not because of the people coming to the church, but because of the change in the music or the way we started doing things. New introduced cultures tend to take over. What EVERYONE is missing is a very human part of this. IT'S grief. It's the loss of what was. That's all. If you go in a grocery store, you notice that over the years, the music playing has changed. This has to be hard for a patron who has been going there for years. T.V. changed, cultural norms change. I am 50, and I miss the America we were in the 80s. Does that make me racist? Black neighborhoods are filling up with Hispanics. That changes the sounds you hear the smells you smell. The stores change. On and on. Why can't anyone understand that. We have been conditioned to think everything is racist. This is the first time I have ever disagreed with Corey. This pastor is complicating something very simple. We are all still children inside. We don't want our house to change. One day, people won't know who the Winans are. That hurts a little. Our American way is changing fast because of globalism. The saddest thing is that instead of our Christian church having influence, America seems to only be offering offensive antiChrist things into the world. Let's concentrate on our Biblical duty to spread the Gospel and give people GRACE TO GRIEVE the loss of a culture. I am grieving, too. He needs to learn to let go and let God. This man is not racist. He is hurting. Corey, please understand his culture is dying. It's painful. It's already started in Chicago and New York.
Thank you.
You balme the consequences to you're hisorty an U.S. people. Till this day they continue sin. Read Bible. God hands over a nation like historical Isreal out of disobedience.
@@JonJaedenhis culture is to be of Jesus, not of flesh and blood traditions.
Can we just accept that no one in our generation took part in this phase of history and concentrate on fixing today and tomorrow instead
There were already people here when the white man came
They migrated as well, the only people who did not migrate was Adam and Eve.
@@kgar5String well said 👏 🇬🇧🇯🇲🙏
@@kgar5String facts!
@@kgar5String since Babylon!
As a African American , I would have said the black doctor had to work twice as hard to get there ????
That would be the case if there was no such thing as DEI or affirmative actions, which is why those things hurt us.
@@kgar5Stringwell sort of.... how would you know who worked harder? A kid who grew up with crack parents and got straight As at a hood school? Or a kid that had wealthy parents and got straight As at a private school?
African American? Really?
You do know that eighty-three percent of Affirmative Action went to White women even though it was implemented to address historical to present anti-Black policies throughout society? But due to r*cism it still didn't go to Black Americans.
@@kgar5StringThe you realize that the majority of Affirmative Action went to White women? But politicians and the media still gave it a Black face.
You should be able to acknowledge that D.E.I has very negative effects and it’s caused people to doubt women and minorities. It’s fair to think that way.
Are you really saying that legacy admissions and contacts which white people use to get ahead aren't a thing?
This is America's PROBLEM, I want people who LOOK like me!
There ARE people that look like you. But I don't see any problem in it.
It is more like, this is not the country I grew up in, that is how I feel, why should I have to answer what language?
@@kgar5String Because like all things in this world, they change over time. Having to answer what language is no big deal. If that is what you are bothered with, then God help you because he came to save those from all nations.
This is not America's problem. America's problem is pretending that racial categorization is real. Every country in the world wants people who belong to their tribe to be around them. It is not unique to Americans.
@@icemanred Your not Understanding the point! There are people purposefully trying to destroy this country, by importing people who hate this country!
Gential was cut off. Pregnant woman had their babies ripped from the womb, etc.
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, etc. I dont see how southern planatation owners can agree with this and still be a true Christian.
See how this “Pastor” talked less about The LORD and more about race and america?
The standards are higher for teachers
unacceptable
If you value your own freedom, keeping another human like chattel clearly violates the Golden Rule.
The same way you can lie, be selfish, have proud look and be a Christian, unless you never sinned since saved, you are in the same post it ion, there are some sins you have battled your whole life and will still battling when you leave here, are you still christian?
@@Arman...Cory was asking him questions about race... of course he talked more about it he was answering the questions.
@@Andible thats how he became viral to begin with man
I don't like tossing around the word "racist", because its overused and has lost some of it's uumph.
That being said, i felt very uncomfortable as a Negro, black, ADOS/FBA/Freedman/ African-American (other bywords) Christian listening to this man speak.
Be a kingdom citizen, let your light shine, vote values and let God do His work. We do not need a "Christian" nation, we'll have that in the hereafter. The founding fathers were majority Freemasons anyway.
Unless Christ is ruling on earth which in millennium He will even if a government had all Christians now still have old creation soon fall down anyway making people go to church won’t do anything only preaching The Gospel does
No one is “tossing” around the word racist. They’re calling it for what it is. Unless of course you think YOUR perception is much more accurate than everyone else.
Also, when is it proper to call someone a racist? I’ve never seen a racist standing at an intersection yelling “yes, I am a racist and proud of it”. Would that be the only time you would “toss” the word around?
I love you, Cory, my brother in Christ. But let's not reach! Immigrating different cultures by the thousands and placing them in different parts of this country is not good. It has nothing to do race/ skin color. But everything to do with swiftly changing dynamics of an area. This includes schools (ESL.etc) and economics because we have our taxpayers footing the bill for housing, health, .etc. I'm speaking as a black woman. I understand what he is saying and living in Greater Cincinnati area you can see the change. Don't make this about race it is much deeper!
Absolutely agree!
Thank you well said
Thank you.
It looks worse cause everyone in agreement is white
He sees a female in the job. He assumed that she's not qualified, and I was given a job because she's female? About nepotism does he factor that in?
The assumption she's not qualified is because of DEI. Because of past inequality, tradition or whatever barriers you want to blame, there are positions for which there are not as many women as men qualified to hold them. If companies implement DEI policies, the number of qualified women to hire will be exhausted long before the number of men. HR will then have to hire less qualified women to get the number of DEI-mandated hires. It's simple statistics and demographics.
This was very hard to watch… Please Corey stay away from this lost soul.
Agreed. After this chat, there needn’t be others. Think this is at least his 3rd appearance. The first time seemed to be an introduction to JW. This one and the one from a couple weeks ago is when JW is directly refuted. A divisive brother is to be warned twice, after that have nothing more to do with him. I think the last appearance should have been the cutoff, but certainly this one needs to be it.
@@MKS20KW Right, a man like him could open up dark portals just from speaking to him. He talks much and seems to upset many people. The God he serves can't think too much of others as his words alone centers around people of his race.
@@phylliswhite7279 opening portals? Where is that in the bible?
I thought we were supposed to preach to the lost and confused?!
I agree this was sooooo difficult to watch. I can’t believe he’s calls himself a pastor.
Corey, if you asked a Zimbabwean to choose which of an American family vs. a Zambian family he prefers to migrate to Zimbabwe, if he answered Zambian because cultural familiariy, etc. Would that be deemed problematic, too?
@@bobodka We are talking about Christians here. Christians should not be putting their race on a pedestal. In fact it should be Christ first, not race, culture, nationalism, politics...It should be Christ first.
@ifeifesi What if both American and Zimbian families are Christians, but Zimbabwean prefers the Zambian because in addition to faith, culture? Or consider that the Zambian is not Christian but Zimbabwean because he is of similar culture, believes they can relate the gospel more effectively to them and that in grand scheme being more important than having an American christian immigrate to their country?,
@@bobodka the right response is, I have a preference but I do not need to choose which neighbor I want, but will have to accept either. Simple. The truth to the initial question, a Zimbabwean or Zambian would prefer someone from a white led country, we have a disgusting white savior bias. Kindly keep your politics among yourselves, you would never understand, and you don't have to. Just don't use us as talking points
@@bobodka the right response is, I have a preference but I do not need to choose which neighbor I want, but will have to accept either. Simple. The truth to the initial question, a Zimbabwean or Zambian would prefer someone from a white led country, we have a disgusting white savior bias. Kindly keep your politics among yourselves, you would never understand, and you don't have to. Just don't use us as talking points
34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
John 13:34-35
Racist Racist Racist! How is there any other answer? Stop soft shoeing reality, Corey! Call a thing, a thing!
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Blood and soil is all that last clip was. No different than Germany in 1930s. The fatherland. These guys version of Christs 1000 year reign sounds a little like the German 1000 year Reicht.
The irony of him not seeing his neighboors as beautiful creations of God yet instead wonders if they will figjt a civil war againdt him 😂 The freak? Hindus looked more like jesus, ethnically, than he ever willl!!!😂
How can love the Lord and condone egress acts? Recall what they (Southern Plantation) owners did to run away slaves.
Exodus 21:16, “And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.”
lol! At this point, Joel can’t be taken seriously. He scares me because I do believe he’s a problematic and divisive brother, if a brother. But his M.O. has been the same for the past two years, and that’s become comical to witness. He’ll say something utterly unbiblical and unhelpful. The Saints will call him out for it. He claims he’s “misunderstood”. Rinse and repeat. His premise for Christian Nationalism is not of the Spirit of Christ. If all or most choose to vote for mostly Christian candidates, so be it from a political perspective. But making the concerted effort by Believers to establish a Christian Nation this side of heaven isn’t God’s call for His people. That’s not supposed to be our focus. If we could instead start a charge to pray, preach and praise with all boldness in this land for the sake of saving souls, I could get with his eagerness. But this is an EARTHLY plight by a mortal man who happens to be a pastor and a pro at gaslighting the undiscerning. Consider that this conversation is NOT about proclaiming Christ’s Gospel, it’s about how white people have been hoodwinked and need to take this country back. This guy is not to be heeded or taken seriously…and after the requisite times to warn him to stop his shenanigans, it’s way past time to have NOTHING to do with him.
Constance! I've been listening to your podcast and reading your blog for years.
I was gonna comment that I couldn't have said it better, but then I realized it was you who made the comment--no wonder the comment was so well said. Nice to see you here. 🙂
@@Deanna974Hey!!!! lol! I hang out here a lot these days. 😂
@@veriteetfeu amen to everything you said
This is my perspective as well.
Well said! Instead of pointing to Christ and His love for ALL mankind, this brother's rhetoric is divisive, distracting, and humanistic. The focus of his speech is self-centered and temporal, instead of being Christ-centered and biblical.
What a load of garbage coming out of this guy’s mouth.
Yes he is and so we're his founding fathers
Respect this guy for doing the "sit-down," but pull out his white hood and robe! Really!😮
Incredibly uncharitable discussion with a brother in Christ. It's sad how everything is considered racist now.
Exactly Corey pulled that race card and got offended. I'm shocked
That's assuming Webbon is a true brother tho. The fruits he shows publicly is suspect at best.
@@nathaniellewis5233 how is it suspect
@@nathaniellewis5233 you're confusing Christianity with postwar consensus. I'm willing to bet you can't name a single essential doctrine he's on the wrong side of.
@james7188 Postwar Consensus? 🤣 I'm just talking about him being an arrogant prick and just obnoxious for the sake of being obnoxious. Also being a CN.
My brethren, there is no Gospel in this man. Mr. Corey. Thank you for trying to correct this man. Now let us pray.
I’m a black woman and I agree with him.
What part do you agree with...now mind you, I don't know if he is a racist or not...but I'm curious as to why make the statement "I'm a black woman" and then state you agree with him?
@Daughter777_ You being a black woman & agreeing with him doesn't validate him or you. You being in agreement with him doesn't qualify you or him
List what you agree with so we can determine if you are even worthy
@@Hakeem597 she is saying she is not blinded by the narratives to twist his words.
Everyone seems to miss his point with the problem that DEI caused. He isn’t wrong!
He is very wrong.
@InnovativeWorship Are you a democrat? If you are, you CANNOT be a Christian.
DEI usually goes to non-Black POC and Caucasian women.
@@InnovativeWorship rayy2439's statement certainly deserved more than a "he is very wrong." How about a real argument?
What exactly is "Hindu garb"? Surely not the clothing. If anything, the dot on the forehead. What's shocking is Joel is worried if he can trust such a person to be a good neighbor, all the while rejecting the opportunity to be one.
Pretty sure Hindus wear saris, pants with lots of fabric between and head wraps.
@enChristos23 exactly.
I'm not into the liberal "everything is racist" BLM nonsense, but Joel is just ridiculous.
I actually live in his area. I went to a conference of his back in 2022 or so, and stayed there only for a few minutes. I looked over at him and i could just feel the snobbery and arrogance coming from this man. I went only because I was going to a Reformed church at the time.
I really don't like calling people racists, but I think it's pretty clear that cultural--and possibly ethnic purity--is Joel's focus, NOT Christ. He should view Hindus are a field for harvest. What an embarrassing shame. He really needs to stop and shut down his so called ministry.
DEI Has destroyed the trust that this country used to have in professionals. From aviation to lawyers, they’ve lowered the standards for everything to accommodate POTENTIAL LESS INTELLIGENT AND SKILLED PEOPLE…. And that’s scary.
It's hard to not view this guy as a 🤡 If he cared as much for, & spoke about the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness as much as his "American heritage" 🙄 but he will have his reward
I rather have a true Christian white friend over a black atheists vice versa but if i can have both ill have both so we can help the atheist TOGETHER
Why can't there be a commonsense policy on immigration? It is neither wise to overwhelm communities with migrants nor shut down migration. If policy makers disagree, they can prove me wrong by settling about 30% of their own neighborhoods with migrants in a short period of time... It is easy to be virtueous when you push the cost unto others.
That's the main issue. That's how the game is played. Extremes are the key.
The problem I have with this video is that Joel is so on fire for America and not enough for the Faith of Jesus Christ. I understand he has concerns as it pertains to people who aren’t from here, but you have to have the same energy no matter who comes here. What I see more from Joel, unfortunately, is fear of people that don’t look like him. And that is not becoming of a Pastor who is called to serve. Jesus was and is not like this. He is far better and we owe it to Him to strive to be better than when He was here as it says in the scripture that better works shall we do.
Thia shouldn't be a discussion of what people might think but truth and context
Dude Moses was despised by the congregation of Israel and they lied about him too. People misunderstood Job, and David, and they misunderstood God and His Son Jesus Christ.
People rejected Isaiah, Jeremiah's words, and so on. People misunderstood Paul as well. So when people twist this white man's words, it does not reflect bad on him, it reflects bad on the listeners. I heard what the man said. I never thought what he said sounded racist or prejudiced in an evil way. I am a black man too.
It's called consequences of U.S. history. Till this day people sin. That's why God, gave them over to other nations. Joel also stated a lot of innacuracute steaments. Not to mention he wants 150 years an more of American heritage to count. Bit far.
Consequences of past. Joel dosnt understand that. God hands over nations. And over 150 years or American heritage to be american is Ludacris.
@Mech-730 I stand my ground. It's only people that seem cursed with being overly sensitive that have the issue with what he said about the Hindu and the white neighbor.
@Sean-e5r I never said race. Said Joel has innacuracies. Such as the Spanish colonized parts américas before the English. Cowboys originated in mexicao. 150 years or older to acknowledge immigrants of Americans is beyond Ludacris. Project 25. The lie about 25 million migrants came in 2024. Biggest problem? U.S. consequences have come. God hands over nations. He also should not be talking, let only preaching if he's not well versed in Bible. You also need to learn, the meaning of Decernment.
@Sean-e5r I never said race. Said Joel has innacuracies. Such the Spanish colonized américas before the English. Cowboys originated in mexicao. 150 years or older to acknowledge immigrants of Americans is beyond Ludacris. Project 25. The lie about 25 million migrants came in 2024. Biggest problem? U.S. consequences have come. God hands over nations. He also should not be talking, let only preaching if he's not well versed in Bible. You also need to learn, the meaning of Decernment.
😂 Bro, he wouldve given Jesus a wierd look if he mvoed in his neighboorhood! A 1st century middle eastern 😂 The idea that this dude claims to worship a guy who woulf look arab and muslim today is hilarious😂
@@leonscott543 This ☝🏿☝🏿☝🏿💯
*Thank you so much for speaking up about this man, when there is silence, even from those whose whole platform is pointing out errors of preachers. OTHER THINGS THIS MAN SAYS:
-Women should wear head coverings.
-Christian women who prioritise a career over getting married and having kids are not saved.
-Noble bloodlines = courageous men.
-You're sinning if you don't homeschool.
- "We should go back to hating the sin AND the sinner."
I had no idea this atrocity was happening until I researched him. Justin Peters was even on his show!
He's trying to say that African villages and countries fought against each other. And enslaved the losers. Many different Indian tribes fought and made slaves out of the losers. They were selling their African slaves to other people outside of their own country😅
John bevere, watch who you listen to, satan is using certain preachers. It's on TH-cam now.🇬🇧🇯🇲🙏
Every African sent to the New World was already a slave before he was put on the boat.
I truly do NOT believe that Webbon is racist. The host, who has a great channel, kept referencing “it comes across as” and “branding.” But the problem here is being a slave to how people will perceive you rather than letting the truth stand. Optics have far too high a place in his economy
News flash Joel: Babylon was "blessed", The Assyrian Empire was "blessed", the nation of Israel was "blessed", not because of their righteousness, but in spite of their evil and rebellious ways. The arrogance of mind to suggest that America is no different is astounding.
He is not wrong
He is racist.
Totally disagree with his position on Donald Trump and Project 2025. The fact that he is being untruthful about this obvious and provable fact disqualifies almost anything he has to say because that tells me he is covering up something
Thats because you’re a woke Christian.
This is the problem with White Christian Nationalists! How do you guys expect unity among other ethnic groups and your views towards them are ungodly?
This the same groups that go on missions and minister throughout Africa to impose their beliefs, but when these groups move to America, you are fearful that they may impose their beliefs on America. I am confused.
Our job is to love people out of their fallen state and spread the gospel to all humanity.
Lastly, you talk about slavery as though it was a light thing. Slavery, Jim Crow laws and other systematic issues have set African Americans back (I am not making excuses). I do not believe in pandering to the left neither do I believe that this generation should be responsible for the sins of their forefathers. However, I believe their needs to should be a display of humility, empathy and talks about progressive change to correct some of the systemic injustice. Christians should be looking at every issue holistically.
@@ronflowers4139 exactly. Couldn't have said it better.
I'm a nurse, and I have worked with all kinds of healthcare professionals from all walks of life, and I have never said to myself, "You must have been a DEI hire."
I know if they are good or not solely based on what they do.
What do we mean by American?
Rule of law? Constitutional protections? Freedom from Gov intrusion and violation? Separation of church and state? Religious freedom ( as long as no one is getting hurt)?
This to me is what American is about.
Watching Cory and Joel duel over who was responsible for introducing the term, "African-American," was a hoot. Cory blamed the white man and Joel blamed the Jews. Talk about racial scapegoating. There's a SNL sketch in there somewhere.
Thankfully, the Yale Alumni Magazine has come to the rescue. Jesse Jackson is credited with popularizing the term as an alternative to "black" in the 1980s, although the term has an older -- and apparently noble -- history.
I quote ...
"The Oxford English Dictionary traced its documented occurrences of 'African American' back as far as 1835. (The related term 'Afro-American,' which enjoyed a brief popularity in the 1960s, has an 1831 citation in the OED.) ... a routine search for the phrase in America’s Historical Newspapers, the Readex company’s very powerful database of early US papers, ... led to a 1782 sermon published in Philadelphia. The sermon, whose only known surviving copy is at Harvard’s Houghton Library, was titled 'A Sermon on the Capture of Lord Cornwallis.' The title page of the pamphlet includes the byline 'By an African American.'"
I suggest you read the piece -- it's great. It appears the author of the sermon was black and the intent -- given that the colonists had just secured their independence from Britain by defeating Cornwallis -- "may indeed have been strategically aimed at integrating blacks into the new social and political order. This notion fits nicely with the author's byline: 'an African American.' The idea that blacks might be part of American society was in the air by the 1760s."
Jews?!?!?!? Good grief.
GOOGLE:["Origin of African-American" "Yale Alumni Magazine"]
He thinks hes jordan peterson, but hes closer to Alex Jones.
I’m black, Jewish, & white🙏🙏🤣💯😇
Hee hee
What does the host’s preference?
Wow, this man is a pastor? Unbelievable!
The argument that others did it too is a horrible position as a believer. Our position is to always repent of your own sins and then encourage others to do the same by demonstrating the goodness of God.
I would point Corey to Philemon and say yes. There is absolutely a difference between how a Christian had slaves and how a non Christian would have slaves. Slavery is still absolutely wrong, and is not in the same sense as slaves in the ancient middle east. I will say I think the slavery in America was worse in principle and ethic because these weren't slaves by choice, they were bought. Typically the slaves in the ancient middle east were by choice and had a chance to leave after a while (not always the case) especially in Greek and Jewish culture. I do agree with Joel that America no more or less guilty than other countries, but to downplay slavery is past okay.
Why do you people keep comparing? Was slavery good or bad? A slave master who's Christian still had slaves, was it right? If it was not, don't excuse it and stay working with the present. Don't idolise anyone. All slave owners oppressed the people they enslaved, even if they gave them cookies. You guys get distracted so easily
I am not sure if Joe is a Christian🤔
By his fruits, I question him😔
I can only imagine what Joe is teaching in his home🥸
How does Joe know that his white brothers and sisters would fight for him? In my observation, Joe looks like he knows the truth, but publicity works better sense. Joe also needs to be more focus on his Christian heritage. Oh, boy, Joe is a trip.
God, help us to love like you love🙏
Notice he never ever mentions that the majority of wealthy people in america are wealthy due to inheritance.... and the majority of those people are white men..... that level of unearned success doesnt bother him? But he wants to be mad at a system that rewards a straight A kid from the hood instead of a straight A kid from beverly hills. And im against affirmative action as well. But im consistent with my views on meritocracy
Why should anyone have an issue with inheritances?
The majority of AA went to Caucasian women. Black Americans got less than 15 percent.
@NP-zs5ui Because it's wealth and power and influence given to kids who did not actually earn anything. For example, how many Harvard students are there because their parents are major donors or famous alumn... same for most universities in the US. A ton. Flats and sororities are full of kids who wouldn't have gotten into the university had their parents not been major alumni donors. This has been going sense universities were created. But somehow now all of a sudden he has an issue with unearned university acceptances now that a small trickle of poor black kids were given a free ride bc they managed to excel academically in extremely bad situations.
Now I think DEI is ultimately a unsustainable way of solving the problem of inequality when it comes to opportunity. But the reasons for attacking it that racists are giving are not consistent critiques.
The critique of DEI should be that we should be that for all adult level qualifications, there should be a common standard. If a large group of kids appear to be way out of step with the rest of society with meeting that standard proportionally to their counterparts, that's a sign that there's a systematic issue that begins at birth for these people....
If we can address those issues, and solve the root causes, them we don't need to worry about trying to fix that issue when they're applying school.
For example, all schools should have the same amount of books, the same student to teacher ratios, the same budget, the same amount of university prep and sat prep ect.... there should be no reason why a kid in a black community should be any less prepared than a kid in public schools in wealthy areas..... their education experience should be identical in rigor.
Well unfortunately we have a system where we determine k-12 public funding based on property taxes. That is the most obvious natural classist education system.
For example, in pro sports performing teams always get the first picks in the drafts. Why? Because we all know that in order to keep competitive and fair playing fiend from year to year, we have to constantly level the playing field with OPPURTUNITY to prevent a monopoly or a run away dynasty.
Our education system is like if the Kansas City cheifs get the number one picks every time they win a super bowl 😂😂😂 ummmm yeah they'll never loose a game for a million years and at some point they will literally be a team of hall of famers vs a bunch of second rate players.
Well what's worse with education system is that it's not entertainment, and it's children instead of adults.....
The Uk is a Christian country Corey and as a Black British man I can tell you that.
On the immigration side the country is spilt but we are pretty much together that illegal immigration’s has to stop
The way he salivates when he talks about the good ol' days when Jonathan Edwards took communion with his slaves. 😂*sigh* I'm 15 min. in but I can't do it... I'm at the point in my black life where I can longer give my emotional energy to people like Joel. 🤣😅 Praying God has mercy on us all! I'm so glad that He knows the truth in all things and that JESUS IS LORD! He'll take us all, regardless of our race. AMEN!
Been listening for 5 mins. Here is what the issue is. He's a white Christian nationalist. The sooner it is recognised that these 'followers of Jesus' worship their skin. We don't need a whole hour to discuss this.
I mean what are the rebuttals for joel? I'm a theonomist...so i disagree with stephen wolfe Christian Nationalism....but what are the rebuttals for joel?
He’s not racist. He’s making a good point and argument.
He's beyond a racist.
Yeah, he’s more biased than anything.
@@3-dmanhood974 just doesn't want to see Hindus in his neighborhood. But he's not racist. America is made up of many different cultures. Think he sees them as a threat instead of loving them and maybe even learning from them. He's more of a klan mindset than Christianity. Tried to cover his biases up with being a Christian. Doesn't sound like a very good one if he is one at all
He should not even complain, because God ordained a Hindu to be his neighbor.
If we shut down the military and declare open borders, perhaps God will ordain Iranian terrorists and the Chinese communist army to be all our neighbors.
I’m a black guy and I’ve followed Joel Webbon for a couple of years now and no I don’t think he’s racist. As a matter of fact, I think he’s spot on with a lot of things.
You aint a black guy...you gotta be trolling
The DEI point is valid, even if it sounds harsh. While I do share some beliefs with Joel, I think his views are too extreme and something about him just rubs me the wrong way. I don't know if it's his arrogance or what, but I don't find him to be trustworthy.
@alondraprietomartinez
I agree with your statement. I do not like BLM, liberals nonsense, and im not one of those "everything is racist" people.
I actually live in Joel's area and attended a conference of his back in 2022. I went because I agreed with some of his points. I didn't stay long, though. I looked over at him, and he was just dripping with smug arrogance. In the past two years, he's just been saying some crazy stuff. I think it's clear his focus is cultural (and possibly, ethnic) purity, NOT Christ.
Now, I lean Reformed and I'm not a person who is emotionally led. But I think you are discerning when you say he isn't trustworthy, and he's arrogant. He needs to stop. Pride comes before a fall.
I agree. What's exuding from this man is not the unmistakable love of Christ. There's something sinister afoot. We need to pray for him.
As an African American, I agree with Joel on this one. Especially on his point about Stonewall Jackson and MLK. Sometimes, it seems that it is hard for people to look at things purely through a biblical/scriptural worldview. The title of this video (Is this Pastor Racist?) holds an implied bias/belief about Joel. You are calling Joel out about how he says/word things, then you post a video with the word “Racist” in the title. It comes off a bit hypocritical. The wording of the title should have been different.
What are the optics like for this person called Joel? His words give off raciste sentiments. It's a question in the title. If you agree with him, then asks the optics of your world view be questioned. Are you raciste for siding with someone that has issues with a neighbour having a different culture from them?
If you’re African American, I’m the king of England.
The inherent problem with this “pastor” stems from his eschatology. He has some salient points about culture but when you look at the signs of the times Jesus is coming soon, not a Christian world without Him. I’m 70 and have seen the degradation of culture worldwide. It ain’t changing, but by God’s grace we can participate in changing hearts one at a time. Time is short!
Haitians aren't cannibals. They do practice Voodoo though.
Not all Haitians practice voodoo. Some latinos practice santeria and voodoo, some whites practice witchcraft. No ethnic group is immune from some form of witchcraft.
All of them?
But 🇭🇹 is under American control. Why is he saying this? It is disappointing.
Calvin Robinson a Black young man from England who was denied Ordination in the Anglican Church,partly because like this Pastor he calls out the invasion of Indian and others in England. He is now in USA seeing what he fled from.
The problem is he doesn’t even see the correlation between the impact of slavery and why DEI even became a thing. Maybe DEI wasn’t implemented properly as a good solution, but we have to admit the impact racism had on black people in America and it directly correlates to why so many are below the poverty line.
Yes other countries have committed atrocities and none are innocent.. but we live in America. So we’re focused on the impact slavery has had on America and the descendants of those slaves in America. Even after slavery there was Jim Crow. To talk about other countries and say “what about them” deflects from the issue at hand. Black people 100% helped build this country. That’s not to take away from all of the great businessmen and founding fathers.. but America does not become the America it is today without 400 years of slave labor.
I think I just found my Pastor! Pastor Joel Webbon!
This guy loves America and America is of this world
You have people banning me from the chat for calling this false pastor FALSE
How do you justify this man biblically?
Haha!! Wow! This guy speaks quietly and softly to try and sound intelligent, but his history is off. Bless his little racist heart!
Good job guys…You both have valid points👌🏿🙏🏿I think “sensitivities” around race clouds the ability to have sincere conversations…We should give space that some have sincere sensitivities (valid or not) and give them grace. Likewise, we should give grace to our brothers in the Lord who are blind to sensitivities, and not assume they have bad or racist intentions because they have blind spots 🙏🏿Americanism (prioritizing American culture and values) is not the same as racism, and we should give grace around this thought👌🏿👊🏿
@@kvnmcgary sometimes giving grace is rebuking someone on their blind spots. Don't believe this pastor is open to correction however. I find his views very racist, especially the clips Corey showed. God's grace calls for correction.
@@dankodde6721 when I consider whether someone is racist, I consider “malignancy” and “malevolence,” not their personal “preferences.” I don’t sense malevolence in his thinking. If we don’t attach malevolence to intentions, we lose the gravity and weight of what racism really is🤔 If we continue down this track whereas racism is subjectively defined and redefined, it loses its definition.
@@kvnmcgary disagree. Way he talks about Hindu neighbors and other immag6is very racist. Invite them over for dinner, love them, learn from them. That's what a true born again Christian would do. And his talk on slavery. Clips Corey showed. Are you kidding me. Don't let that intellectual talk fool you. He's not right. And yes he is racist. But he'll never admit it.
@@dankodde6721 we disagree😉
@@kvnmcgary so if our personal preference is not to like minorities that's not racist? If for no other reason than their culture or religion because that's what he's doing
I’m not sure what the purpose of this was. Joel doesn’t have a problem with what he said. He is focused on the black guys are just as bad or worst.