Did you get the 125 or the 200? Only asking as I’m thinking of getting one but the 200 is hard to find. I’ll be mainly riding in and around London, hardly ever take it on motorways (I’m not one for long rides and camping lol), at best it might be to see the odd mate about 1hr /1.5hr away and that’s it. How you finding it? Any issues? How is it to fix stuff?
@@friktionrc I got the 125 and I must say it is so reliable. Will take you anywhere anytime. Had no issues so far although I've even travelled longer distances. But get other than the original tires if mostly you're riding on roads.
I'm an rv lover...100 mpg, ridiculously easy maintenance, looks fantastic, cheap insurance, more comfortable then any other bike, and 100 per cent reliable....what's not to like...
Got it spot on. Love my Van Van. It's different. End of. If I bought a bigger bike I would budget to keep my Van Van. Liked the video. Speed is not everything. Can go just about anywhere and take it all in. Cannot do that at 130 mph down the M1.
Good review sir ....I had a PX125 as my first ride ...it was nicked ...with the insurance payout I got a 2010 van van ...I commute to work in London ..hour back and forth ...couldn't believe the difference with this bike ....especially on London roads which are atrociously pot holed ....I ride all year round and it starts every time ...I also leave it out in all weathers due to not having a garage ....did the Chain sprocket upgrade and it seems to have made a bit of difference leaving at the lights ....also had it on the dual carriageway got around 60mph at a constant ....felt fine ....I'm totally new to bikes in general but if I ever take the "big boy test" I'd feel really reluctant to sell this thing ....love it.
Hi from Ireland. Thanks for the review on the Suzuki van van, my wife got me a 17 model for my birthday, cant wait to ride it I ride a 2020 Honda pcx Great bike and half the cost of a Vespa.
i've had a van van 125 for 2 years now, the best thing i think is to put fork extentions 3to6inch you'll afto get longer brak line and speeddo cable,this as totaly transformed the ride, makes it so much better off road to, and if you get the bottom frame rails off a pulse 125 and bash plate on there you'll have a trully awesome bike. (ho and you'll need a longer sidestand).
Many thanks for your video ,i have had mine for aprox 8 months from new bought from bb lincoln,ime almost 70 now and just love it,,i tend to set the trip,and fill the tank on the 100 miles,the only thing that frustrates me a litte,is even though i have now done 1200 miles,is when i stop at lights or road juctions is getting the bike into 1st gear.,and find myself pulling away in second,is that a prob for the bike,do you think, the other wierd thing with the gears is the fact ime never 100 percent certain ime in top gear, 5th,and find myself constantly checking,by lifting the shift,most importantly though its a dream,i would add that this is my first bike for 40 years,hope you did not mind my waffling on ,many thanks again peter ,bfn .
That's a great purpose for this bike if your RV is fine with the weight. It's nice for two people to explore on and we have had 200 mile days on this bike without trouble. The comfort is good and it's a good bike to explore on when you park up and don't want the big RV for the store run. Best of luck with it and I'd love to hear your thoughts or maybe a review when your 200 is nicely run in.
thanks for your offer on the accessories etc and the info on the rev counter etc. ill keeo in touch with that info. not had it on the road yet due to work commitments, but hope to this weekend. stephen
Stephen Jackson ok that's fine. Let me know if you want the items and I will get my number to you somehow either via email or you can write to me as you'll have my address on the V5. Whatever you decide, enjoy the VanVan. Please don't have any concerns about it, you really got a good' there I can tell you. We had a great day taking it to the coast last July and then back through the new forest. It's alot of fun to ride and one I'm glad I owned.
Quite late to this but thanks a lot for the honest review. I’ll appreciate a lot if you can help me with a very complex question, but your opinion is so useful for me since you owned a VanVan and right now have a Vespa (or maybe several of them). Would you pick a wonderfully spec’d and maintained ‘07 VanVan 125 or a completelly restored ‘81 Vespa Primavera 125? I know they are different worlds but I am having serious problems to decide! Love them both! I will use it as my everyday tool to go to work at the city center (20mins, thru-city no highway) and some sporadic weekend routes nearby with some friends (and a passenger). Thanks a lot in advance!
Sadly I did. I wasn’t so well with rheumatoid arthritis and I never thought I’d be well enough to ride a bigger bike. Along came biological immunosuppression and passed my A license and got a CBF 1000! Since then I went into a Pan European (ST1100) which I also loved for the build quality. Just for giggles, what’s in my garage now? Well there’s three bikes. A Honda Vision 110 (still) an Aprilia SRGT200 which I love and I’ve just got into the older German stuff. I have a BMW R1150RT. I’m sure one day I’ll get back into the TH-cam thing but for now I’m way too busy sadly. Best regards
For any one interested I just sold this bike. I am moving on in my journey with all things scooter and have another new 2017 model scooter, indeed the first on the road in the U.K I am told by the dealer. That video will follow soon. Happy new year to all
Der_Kreuzer its called a Kriega Tailpack. They come in various sizes from 10-40 litres. Not cheap but well made in fact engineered! I would recommend it although one thing to bear in mind. It's good when it's full up but not so easy to secure on a rack when half empty. Hope that helps
Scooty Man Thanks man! Im currently working on my license and then I'll get my vanvan! But im already trying to figure out the best setup. Nice video keep it up!
Great review my friend and made in Japan not Thailand . I am thinking of a new 200cc van van but my local dealer said hold off as come January may be discontinued because of the A4 compliance emissions A.b.s. BRAKES . I ride a Honda sh 300i a good scoot with performance but hanker to go back to a geared bike. Always liked the retro style of the van van and maybe good discounts come Christmas .Also like ease of maintenance can do it myself how many bikes can you say that off? Oh the Suzuki inazuma will be discontinued come Christmas as will not meet the new emissions ,so if your in the market for one now is the time to buy . Go steady .
Thanks for your comments. It's going to be an interesting time to see what the manufacturers do about the new regulations with combined/abs brakes. I'm not sure where the abs modulator is on bikes with abs? Maybe it's under the seat but won't that mean a load of existing models will get discontinued? Ride safe and thanks again
I know Suzuki's inazuma being discontinued because of failing emissions and possibly Honda's Forza 300cc. I think your right will be some new models out come November and a lot discontinued, go steady.
Michael Evans following up on our 2017 Euro 4 discussion, we traded the Vanny for a new model scooter so my girlfriend can come touring this year. I'll let you know my findings soon now that it emits less emissions. What a load of tosh eh?
English-Ash if you haven't already purchased one, speak to Doble Honda and I'm sure they'll happily sell you this one (this comment left late dec2016) Best regards
hello again mate , bit off an odd one but you know your stuff and got a bit of a problem with my van van gear lever , had my 1st drop other day and it’s bent it quite badly , would you recommend buying a new one or trying to bend it back? also do you think i would need to match they year for the part for example would a 2013 fit a 2016 ? or does it even need a van van lever would any other fit ? any info you could give me would be very helpful
Thank you Jules. I think it merits a mention about the build quality on this bike as it is particularly good. It's lovely to see the words 'Made in Japan' under the seat however, we all need to open our minds in the future to other countries as they too are beginning to build good bikes. I have had good experiences with bikes from Vietnam (PCX), Thailand (Innova 125i) and indeed China (Honda CB125F and Wave 110i). I remember as a boy listening to people discussing Japanese cars and bikes like they were second rate and look at the quality now. All good experience and shows its good to keep an open mind with country of origin. Best regards
Agree 100% with that Scooty Man, I'm particulary impressed with the Thailand sourced MSX125. How do you rate the Wave 110i? I'm a big fan of the C90, but hard not to be attracted by the modern equiverlent's MPG and increased speed (probably not often that's said about a 110cc machine!)
+Jules Hatton it's really funny you should mention the C90 and the Wave 110i. I'm planning a tour for 2017 and those two bikes are in the back of my mind. I can buy a nice condition low mileage c90 for around £2000-£2500 and yet as you mentioned the Wave 110i is faster, has better suspension etc and of course can be had for between £1800-£2000 brand new. I have had two Wave 110i's and I rate them highly. What you get is basic but of good quality with a brilliant engine and nice riding position. I'm considering buying one and building it into my ideal bike. I'm thinking Cerakote on the exhaust to stop the rust, more seat padding, spoked wheels with alloy rims, 120cc big bore kit, bigger front sprocket, YSS rear shocks, a decent screen and maybe braze a custom rack with pannier pads each side to stabilise the pannier movement. Oh and of course, lighting and a front rack too. All in the thought stage right now though and my love for this little bike is not done yet. Best regards
+Jules Hatton as a further comment, check out this video th-cam.com/video/WhdqQ8ub_lc/w-d-xo.html At around 2:00, you will see a guy ride in on a yellow Honda NSC50R. That's a sporty Honda Vision which looks also to be made by Wuyang Honda who also make the new CB125F sold here today. I'm loving this research right now. Ride safe
Stephen Jackson congratulations! It's a lovely bike in fantastic condition. I changed the oil a couple of weeks ago(every 500 miles in fact) and adjusted the chain etc before I took it to dobles. I have a few accessories you can have in my garage if you want. I've got a fender extender for the front mudguard, the screen that I took off and if you'd like a set of motorcycle stands you're welcome to those too. They are just collecting dust in my garage so you'd be welcome to have those bits if you wanted them. I can assure you that I looked after that bike so well. I traded it for a new model just in and was sad to see it go really but i had decided it wasn't much good for the touring I do. No other reason. It spent all of its life in a garage and the owner before me was a lovely fella up in Hinckley. He mothered it too! It has a smaller front tooth sprocket and heavy duty chain kit from DID fitted also. PM me if you'd like the accessories and best regards
Stephen Jackson also, I will add to my original reply, just to let you know that the rev counter was properly hard wired. I took the tank off and routed all the cables nicely, soldered all the joints (none of those nasty scotchlocks) and fused it properly too. The rev counter bracket I made myself and make sure you leave the piece of rubber tubing over the oil temperature sensor. If you remove it the wind cools the sensor and it won't read correctly. The 12 volt socket is three separate pieces of cable cut to fit the bike and soldered in place to make a nice job. I really hope it serves you well. You won't regret having a VanVan in your life for however long you own it. All the best
Rob Harvey it was around £85.00 TPFT. I don't see the point with fully comp, if you total it that hard I'm guessing I won't be riding for a while in any case. Hope that helps
terrytrooper2 Hi Terry. No problem. I used a Koso one. I believe it was the one that displays up to 10K rpm and had a temp display which I used for the oil temp. I bought mine from digital speedos (.co.uk). They were very helpful and if I remember rightly I made up the bracket to fit it to the bike with a small piece of aluminium which I cut and shaped. If you use the oil temp then I would recommend you put a piece of rubber (bicycle inner tube works great) around the sensor to stop the wind chill affecting the reading. Hope that helps and best regards Scoots
Ime 68 and its my first bike for 40 years,and i just love,as an older rider just passed cbt,ime taking it careful ,but where i live in newark there are miles and miles of country lanes to get used to it all again,your review i loved it,and no not bored for one second ,thats because i want to learn all about the van van 125cc,so any info is great for me,the one question i have is,how far would feel is ok to drive it in one stretch,i have this odd feeling that i might over heat it,being only a 125 cc.have you had any probs at all for me to be aware of, mines brand new just done the 400miles thanks again.
Hi Peter. Thank you for your comments. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the VanVan. Firstly, I'd like to mention there is an excellent uk forum for the VanVan and they are mainly helpful plus there's an online manual there. Secondly, please don't worry about the VanVan overheating for two reasons. First one is that I have ridden two up down the M3 motorway for 30 miles in mid summer this year and my temp gauge only made it up to 105 - 108 degrees at top speed and in traffic. Also, it will be comforting for you to know there is a temperature sensor on the back of the cylinder on the FI models (fuel injection which yours will be if new) and that monitors and changes the engine settings if things get hot. I change my oil every 1000 miles to keep it nice with good quality semi synthetic which also reduces the possibility of a seizure due to low oil level. Best regards and feel free to message me if you need any further help with the VanVan
Sorry Peter, I just read your post again. How far in one stretch? I would say there is no limits to how far you can take it. There were two Eastern European girls that toured thousands of miles on VanVan's. The engine is built to rev high and there is a rev limiter at 10k rpm anyway. A good mod to do is change the front sprocket for one with one tooth less. This will TRANSFORM your VanVan into a willing rev free bike that feels happier to pull right through the rev range. So in short, ride as far as you can, it will be fine. Ride safe
Many thanks for your comment,yes that has made me feel abit better,,there is a lot to learn,and i want to hear all this info,i find it very helpful to give me confidence to get out there and doa lot more miles,thanks again,bfn peter.
Is that conversion you mentioned ,something that the suzuki bike shops will do for me,or is this one of those ,alterations that will harm the warranty if they know,and would not be happy about ,i hope you don,t mind my asking,as mine is brand new ,and due a first service in 200 miles,cheers peter.
+peter ryan Hi Peter. Absolutely no problem for asking and if you lived closer I'd say bring it round and I'll do it for you. I don't know your weight but some of the heavier riders like me. Find that the bike runs out of puff around 50 mph and won't pull well in sixth gear. The answer is the new front sprocket with one less tooth. I don't see any reason why that should invalidate the warranty. You are not changing the engine at all, simply the gear ratio overall creating the effect of more torque at the rear wheel. If you find that on the flat, your bike will pull happily through to 65mph then probably there is no need but otherwise it's a great mod to do. You will have a lesser top speed but to be honest, the VanVan is designed to cruise around on at say a comfy 50 mph in any case. Also you will find that a screen will help greatly in your progress with acceleration. The lower gearing is great for green lanes and gravel roads too. Best regards
Stephen Jackson it's fine in the wet if you take it steady and don't try to get your knee down. ;) Like any bike with semi off road tyres, get your braking done before the corner, take the corner, bike upright, power back on. I hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs here by the way. Tyre pressure is critical. 18 psi back and front, no more, no less (they are low pressure balloon tyres). I found that either way severely effects the handling. Get yourself on the VANVAN forum. It's a little bit "clicky" I found but they are harmless enough and happy to help.
Thanks for your comment. I've had so many 125's now and this really is the best built one I have had in a while. I sold a Honda CB125F recently as it was rusting away on the "Stainless steel" exhaust and both sets of foot pegs at only 3 months despite ACF treatment. Such a shame as it was a good bike but this blows it away. It's not as quick or fuel efficient as some but it's so capable and nice to live with. No wonder Suzuki kept it going for so long.
+Bosseyed Beaver I use the same as you, a GoPro Session. I don't use a separate mic and I also have a base model GoPro Hero I use for rearward shots and also on a chesty mount. I'm looking again for another one now. I might buy a different brand next time
I must say the VanVan has had my attention ever since Spicy110 did a review of the 200cc model recently; I absolutely love the retro styling combined with modern internals; I guess it's just a question of what I'll need a bike to do if I do decide to go down the avenue of getting my CBT. Just one query (for now); RoyalJordanian mentioned in his brief ride video that he felt it wasn't a good bike for beginners because "it rides and handles completely differently to a normal bike". Can anyone who owns one elaborate on that a little and/or refute it?
Hello Beagleman, I think RJ might be referring to the way the fat tyres make the bike handle/feel. I notice it when I jump off the VanVan and onto the S Wing scooter that I have. With the VanVan you have to make a conscious effort to 'steer' the bike. The fat tyres make the steering feel like it's a little lethargic but once you're used to it you grow to love it. One thing I disagree with RJ over actually because it's easier to control in my opinion and much less wobbling at low speed with those wide bars. I actually like the way it feels and whilst it's not an outright off road bike, it feels nice and stable on gravel and dry dirt trails. You need to ride one and then try maybe a Yamaha YBR and you will instantly understand the point that RJ was making. Hope that helps and best regards
+Beagleman1996 yes, once again I think they have a time and a place i.e London centre in rush hour for a bit more presence but when I tour around I really couldn't stand 110 db in my ears all day long. I think it would drive you insane and the novelty would soon wear off in that situation. I'm currently looking at having my exhaust powder coated to stop any rust from developing. There's a coating called Cerakote which I am considering and I'll make a video of that if I go ahead. Ride safe and if you'd like any further information, or indeed if you live close to me and want to have a ride on a VanVan, feel free to ask away. Best regards
Scooty Man Well I'm currently studying at the University of Southampton, and trust me, I would absolutely love to ride the VanVan since a 125cc Motorcycle is definitely a potential avenue I'm considering for future transport, assuming a job requires a lot of urban commuting, but I fear that, since I haven't even taken my CBT (let alone academic work and even what my parents would think; they, understandably, would cite safety concerns) that might not be a very good idea, although numerous Motorcyle Vlog videos have taught me how to ride a geared bike, and I've held a manual car licence for two years. Thanks very much for the offer, regardless :)
+Beagleman1996 well it's a small world as I was born in Southampton and my family live there still. I'm hopefully moving back soon too. Ok no worries but if and when you're ready, give us a shout and I'll have a ride down and let you have a bash around a car park. All the best
hello mate , bit of a late comment but just recently put a deposit down on one of these it’s a 2016 only done 3000 miles , i’m 17 stone and 6’2 do you think id have problems riding one due to my size ? more concerned about height than weight really if you’d said you’ve had you and your mrs on and still managed 60 , cheers !
Nathan Holland Hello Nathan, Thanks for your message. You will be fine with height on this bike and your weight won’t be a problem either. One recommendation I would make to you would be to change the front sprocket to one tooth less than standard as these bikes don’t pull well with the standard gearing. Add a small screen or a taller Givi screen and you will fly along. The VanVan by nature is quite high geared out of the factory and in my opinion struggles to make progress before switching to a lower gearing (the front sprocket mod). When I bought this one, I rode it from Rugby all the way back to Farnborough and it had no get up and go. At that moment I thought what have I bought! It struggled to go over 55 mph with me on board alone BUT change the sprockets as I have mentioned and it will pull much better and you’ll hit the rev limiter in top at around 68 mph. You will really enjoy the VanVan and have loads of fun on it I’m sure. If I can be of any further help just drop me a message. Best regards
Scooty Man Scooty Man cheers for the thorough reply helped a lot , it’s mainly going to be a commuter for me but if i can do that will be doing some touring a few other riders in a vanvan forum in have said to do exactly the same , not handy enough to do it myself but have a mechanic friend who can do it for me , thank again !
I average around 90mpg. That's an imperial gallon btw in case you live in US, 4.546 litres approximately. It's not so bad considering the bike has a huge rear tyre that inevitably creates more drag. You only have to look at the Honda CB125F mpg to confirm that with its 90/90-18 rear tyre.
Frivolity Machine ....nope, I don't get what your saying. You clearly must be much more intelligent than me. Thanks anyway for gracing my channel and leaving positive input that we all benefit from. You must be so busy so I'm honoured you took the time. Best regards
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It's great u appreciate the smaller bikes. Nowadays everyone is so hasty to get on to a big bike they miss all the fun the smaller bikes offer.
Bit late to the party but I just bought a mighty VanVan two days ago. Looking forward for the next season. Thanks for the in love review.
Did you get the 125 or the 200? Only asking as I’m thinking of getting one but the 200 is hard to find. I’ll be mainly riding in and around London, hardly ever take it on motorways (I’m not one for long rides and camping lol), at best it might be to see the odd mate about 1hr /1.5hr away and that’s it. How you finding it? Any issues? How is it to fix stuff?
@@friktionrc I got the 125 and I must say it is so reliable. Will take you anywhere anytime. Had no issues so far although I've even travelled longer distances. But get other than the original tires if mostly you're riding on roads.
@@tawnos87 Yeah I've seen other vids where folks have swapped the knobbly ones for more road biased ones. Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍😎
i have Vanvaned for a few years now, and i cant imagine any other bike meeting my needs or wishes
I'm an rv lover...100 mpg, ridiculously easy maintenance, looks fantastic, cheap insurance, more comfortable then any other bike, and 100 per cent reliable....what's not to like...
Got it spot on. Love my Van Van. It's different. End of. If I bought a bigger bike I would budget to keep my Van Van. Liked the video. Speed is not everything. Can go just about anywhere and take it all in. Cannot do that at 130 mph down the M1.
Same. When I get my full license I'm getting a w650, but I'm going to do my best to keep my van van. I love it too much.
LOVE my Vanvan and love this video! Good Job!
I'm very impressed by your knowledge overall on the bike explanation. Top-notch
Good review sir ....I had a PX125 as my first ride ...it was nicked ...with the insurance payout I got a 2010 van van ...I commute to work in London ..hour back and forth ...couldn't believe the difference with this bike ....especially on London roads which are atrociously pot holed ....I ride all year round and it starts every time ...I also leave it out in all weathers due to not having a garage ....did the Chain sprocket upgrade and it seems to have made a bit of difference leaving at the lights ....also had it on the dual carriageway got around 60mph at a constant ....felt fine ....I'm totally new to bikes in general but if I ever take the "big boy test" I'd feel really reluctant to sell this thing ....love it.
Fantastic Review, mines being delivered tomorrow! My first 125cc bike! really looking forward to it! Nice video! :)
Hi from Ireland.
Thanks for the review on the Suzuki van van, my wife got me a 17 model for my birthday, cant wait to ride it I ride a 2020 Honda pcx Great bike and half the cost of a Vespa.
Hi From Ireland.
Love,Your Review, on the Suzuki Van Van 125, I Have one Too, Great Bike Will Never sell. Keep it coming PCX, Rider.
I’ve just bought one- can’t wait to potter around!
i've had a van van 125 for 2 years now,
the best thing i think is to put fork extentions 3to6inch you'll afto get longer brak line and speeddo cable,this as totaly transformed the ride, makes it so much better off road to, and if you get the bottom frame rails off a pulse 125 and bash plate on there you'll have a trully awesome bike.
(ho and you'll need a longer sidestand).
Love the look of this bike . Great vid scooty man . Thanks . CBT tomorrow. Happy biking .....
Many thanks for your video ,i have had mine for aprox 8 months from new bought from bb lincoln,ime almost 70 now and just love it,,i tend to set the trip,and fill the tank on the 100 miles,the only thing that frustrates me a litte,is even though i have now done 1200 miles,is when i stop at lights or road juctions is getting the bike into 1st gear.,and find myself pulling away in second,is that a prob for the bike,do you think, the other wierd thing with the gears is the fact ime never 100 percent certain ime in top gear, 5th,and find myself constantly checking,by lifting the shift,most importantly though its a dream,i would add that this is my first bike for 40 years,hope you did not mind my waffling on ,many thanks again peter ,bfn .
Great-looking bike. I want a 200 version for use in northern Thailand. Big VanVan customising scene in Thailand.
Better quality than the Innova?
Thanks, I like some of the additions on this bike. I'm picking up the van van 200 today. I like it do to the weight, to haul behind my RV.
That's a great purpose for this bike if your RV is fine with the weight. It's nice for two people to explore on and we have had 200 mile days on this bike without trouble. The comfort is good and it's a good bike to explore on when you park up and don't want the big RV for the store run. Best of luck with it and I'd love to hear your thoughts or maybe a review when your 200 is nicely run in.
What a wonderfully descriptive word “squishy” is lol!😄
Nice video and review!! One question please!! Where did you get the nice looking windshield?
thanks for your offer on the accessories etc and the info on the rev counter etc. ill keeo in touch with that info. not had it on the road yet due to work commitments, but hope to this weekend.
stephen
Stephen Jackson ok that's fine. Let me know if you want the items and I will get my number to you somehow either via email or you can write to me as you'll have my address on the V5. Whatever you decide, enjoy the VanVan. Please don't have any concerns about it, you really got a good' there I can tell you. We had a great day taking it to the coast last July and then back through the new forest. It's alot of fun to ride and one I'm glad I owned.
Might be too late to hey a response to this, but would you recommend it as a first bike? I love the look of them.
Quite late to this but thanks a lot for the honest review. I’ll appreciate a lot if you can help me with a very complex question, but your opinion is so useful for me since you owned a VanVan and right now have a Vespa (or maybe several of them). Would you pick a wonderfully spec’d and maintained ‘07 VanVan 125 or a completelly restored ‘81 Vespa Primavera 125? I know they are different worlds but I am having serious problems to decide! Love them both! I will use it as my everyday tool to go to work at the city center (20mins, thru-city no highway) and some sporadic weekend routes nearby with some friends (and a passenger). Thanks a lot in advance!
hi , video much appreciated , thank you so much , I share with you how great is van van 125c , solid , nice , finish , great
Hi, nice walk round , you seem to have an affair with the little Gem . May I ask how did you connect the rev counter up and what make is it ?
It was a Koso and I picked up the feed for the tacho from the coil which if i remember correctly was under the tank. Hope that helps
@@scootyman2974 Thanks for your advise , have fun .
one question if I may? I have just bought one and was wondering where did you get your heavy duty chain and sprockets from
7years later did you get rid of it ?
Sadly I did.
I wasn’t so well with rheumatoid arthritis and I never thought I’d be well enough to ride a bigger bike. Along came biological immunosuppression and passed my A license and got a CBF 1000! Since then I went into a Pan European (ST1100) which I also loved for the build quality.
Just for giggles, what’s in my garage now?
Well there’s three bikes.
A Honda Vision 110 (still) an Aprilia SRGT200 which I love and I’ve just got into the older German stuff. I have a BMW R1150RT.
I’m sure one day I’ll get back into the TH-cam thing but for now I’m way too busy sadly.
Best regards
For any one interested I just sold this bike. I am moving on in my journey with all things scooter and have another new 2017 model scooter, indeed the first on the road in the U.K I am told by the dealer. That video will follow soon. Happy new year to all
Scooty Man what's that little bag in the back called??
Der_Kreuzer its called a Kriega Tailpack. They come in various sizes from 10-40 litres. Not cheap but well made in fact engineered! I would recommend it although one thing to bear in mind. It's good when it's full up but not so easy to secure on a rack when half empty. Hope that helps
Scooty Man Thanks man! Im currently working on my license and then I'll get my vanvan! But im already trying to figure out the best setup. Nice video keep it up!
Great review my friend and made in Japan not Thailand . I am thinking of a new 200cc van van but my local dealer said hold off as come January may be discontinued because of the A4 compliance emissions A.b.s. BRAKES . I ride a Honda sh 300i a good scoot with performance but hanker to go back to a geared bike. Always liked the retro style of the van van and maybe good discounts come Christmas .Also like ease of maintenance can do it myself how many bikes can you say that off? Oh the Suzuki inazuma will be discontinued come Christmas as will not meet the new emissions ,so if your in the market for one now is the time to buy . Go steady .
Thanks for your comments. It's going to be an interesting time to see what the manufacturers do about the new regulations with combined/abs brakes. I'm not sure where the abs modulator is on bikes with abs? Maybe it's under the seat but won't that mean a load of existing models will get discontinued? Ride safe and thanks again
I know Suzuki's inazuma being discontinued because of failing emissions and possibly Honda's Forza 300cc. I think your right will be some new models out come November and a lot discontinued, go steady.
Michael Evans following up on our 2017 Euro 4 discussion, we traded the Vanny for a new model scooter so my girlfriend can come touring this year. I'll let you know my findings soon now that it emits less emissions. What a load of tosh eh?
I think the bloke likes it! Just a guess though. Am looking for just such a bike so found this review very helpful, thanks
English-Ash if you haven't already purchased one, speak to Doble Honda and I'm sure they'll happily sell you this one (this comment left late dec2016) Best regards
Thanks for that. I expect that Doble Honda is no where in range of me here in South Leicestershire though! Thanks anyways
hello again mate , bit off an odd one but you know your stuff and got a bit of a problem with my van van gear lever , had my 1st drop other day and it’s bent it quite badly , would you recommend buying a new one or trying to bend it back? also do you think i would need to match they year for the part for example would a 2013 fit a 2016 ? or does it even need a van van lever would any other fit ? any info you could give me would be very helpful
Great review, especially concerning build quality.
Thank you Jules. I think it merits a mention about the build quality on this bike as it is particularly good. It's lovely to see the words 'Made in Japan' under the seat however, we all need to open our minds in the future to other countries as they too are beginning to build good bikes. I have had good experiences with bikes from Vietnam (PCX), Thailand (Innova 125i) and indeed China (Honda CB125F and Wave 110i). I remember as a boy listening to people discussing Japanese cars and bikes like they were second rate and look at the quality now. All good experience and shows its good to keep an open mind with country of origin. Best regards
Agree 100% with that Scooty Man, I'm particulary impressed with the Thailand sourced MSX125. How do you rate the Wave 110i? I'm a big fan of the C90, but hard not to be attracted by the modern equiverlent's MPG and increased speed (probably not often that's said about a 110cc machine!)
+Jules Hatton it's really funny you should mention the C90 and the Wave 110i. I'm planning a tour for 2017 and those two bikes are in the back of my mind. I can buy a nice condition low mileage c90 for around £2000-£2500 and yet as you mentioned the Wave 110i is faster, has better suspension etc and of course can be had for between £1800-£2000 brand new. I have had two Wave 110i's and I rate them highly. What you get is basic but of good quality with a brilliant engine and nice riding position. I'm considering buying one and building it into my ideal bike. I'm thinking Cerakote on the exhaust to stop the rust, more seat padding, spoked wheels with alloy rims, 120cc big bore kit, bigger front sprocket, YSS rear shocks, a decent screen and maybe braze a custom rack with pannier pads each side to stabilise the pannier movement. Oh and of course, lighting and a front rack too. All in the thought stage right now though and my love for this little bike is not done yet. Best regards
+Jules Hatton as a further comment, check out this video th-cam.com/video/WhdqQ8ub_lc/w-d-xo.html
At around 2:00, you will see a guy ride in on a yellow Honda NSC50R. That's a sporty Honda Vision which looks also to be made by Wuyang Honda who also make the new CB125F sold here today. I'm loving this research right now. Ride safe
Thanks for the info. There really is a shortage of info on the Wave. How does it compare to the Innova?
Would you recommend this as a starter/learner bike?
i would, it's a very forgiving bike, but with recent developments is becoming fairly expensive to get stock parts
what rack did you buy? I have the 200 VanVan.
just purchased your van van this week lol
Stephen Jackson congratulations! It's a lovely bike in fantastic condition. I changed the oil a couple of weeks ago(every 500 miles in fact) and adjusted the chain etc before I took it to dobles. I have a few accessories you can have in my garage if you want. I've got a fender extender for the front mudguard, the screen that I took off and if you'd like a set of motorcycle stands you're welcome to those too. They are just collecting dust in my garage so you'd be welcome to have those bits if you wanted them. I can assure you that I looked after that bike so well. I traded it for a new model just in and was sad to see it go really but i had decided it wasn't much good for the touring I do. No other reason. It spent all of its life in a garage and the owner before me was a lovely fella up in Hinckley. He mothered it too! It has a smaller front tooth sprocket and heavy duty chain kit from DID fitted also. PM me if you'd like the accessories and best regards
Stephen Jackson also, I will add to my original reply, just to let you know that the rev counter was properly hard wired. I took the tank off and routed all the cables nicely, soldered all the joints (none of those nasty scotchlocks) and fused it properly too. The rev counter bracket I made myself and make sure you leave the piece of rubber tubing over the oil temperature sensor. If you remove it the wind cools the sensor and it won't read correctly. The 12 volt socket is three separate pieces of cable cut to fit the bike and soldered in place to make a nice job. I really hope it serves you well. You won't regret having a VanVan in your life for however long you own it. All the best
Great vid. What's the insurance for someone yourself?
Rob Harvey it was around £85.00 TPFT. I don't see the point with fully comp, if you total it that hard I'm guessing I won't be riding for a while in any case. Hope that helps
maybe a bit late as you have sold yours. but what rev counter did you us. thanks
terrytrooper2
Hi Terry. No problem. I used a Koso one. I believe it was the one that displays up to 10K rpm and had a temp display which I used for the oil temp. I bought mine from digital speedos (.co.uk). They were very helpful and if I remember rightly I made up the bracket to fit it to the bike with a small piece of aluminium which I cut and shaped. If you use the oil temp then I would recommend you put a piece of rubber (bicycle inner tube works great) around the sensor to stop the wind chill affecting the reading.
Hope that helps and best regards
Scoots
@@scootyman2974 many thanks for the quick reply and the tips
Ime 68 and its my first bike for 40 years,and i just love,as an older rider just passed cbt,ime taking it careful ,but where i live in newark there are miles and miles of country lanes to get used to it all again,your review i loved it,and no not bored for one second ,thats because i want to learn all about the van van 125cc,so any info is great for me,the one question i have is,how far would feel is ok to drive it in one stretch,i have this odd feeling that i might over heat it,being only a 125 cc.have you had any probs at all for me to be aware of, mines brand new just done the 400miles thanks again.
Hi Peter. Thank you for your comments. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the VanVan. Firstly, I'd like to mention there is an excellent uk forum for the VanVan and they are mainly helpful plus there's an online manual there. Secondly, please don't worry about the VanVan overheating for two reasons. First one is that I have ridden two up down the M3 motorway for 30 miles in mid summer this year and my temp gauge only made it up to 105 - 108 degrees at top speed and in traffic. Also, it will be comforting for you to know there is a temperature sensor on the back of the cylinder on the FI models (fuel injection which yours will be if new) and that monitors and changes the engine settings if things get hot. I change my oil every 1000 miles to keep it nice with good quality semi synthetic which also reduces the possibility of a seizure due to low oil level. Best regards and feel free to message me if you need any further help with the VanVan
Sorry Peter, I just read your post again. How far in one stretch? I would say there is no limits to how far you can take it. There were two Eastern European girls that toured thousands of miles on VanVan's. The engine is built to rev high and there is a rev limiter at 10k rpm anyway. A good mod to do is change the front sprocket for one with one tooth less. This will TRANSFORM your VanVan into a willing rev free bike that feels happier to pull right through the rev range. So in short, ride as far as you can, it will be fine. Ride safe
Many thanks for your comment,yes that has made me feel abit better,,there is a lot to learn,and i want to hear all this info,i find it very helpful to give me confidence to get out there and doa lot more miles,thanks again,bfn peter.
Is that conversion you mentioned ,something that the suzuki bike shops will do for me,or is this one of those ,alterations that will harm the warranty if they know,and would not be happy about ,i hope you don,t mind my asking,as mine is brand new ,and due a first service in 200 miles,cheers peter.
+peter ryan Hi Peter. Absolutely no problem for asking and if you lived closer I'd say bring it round and I'll do it for you. I don't know your weight but some of the heavier riders like me. Find that the bike runs out of puff around 50 mph and won't pull well in sixth gear. The answer is the new front sprocket with one less tooth. I don't see any reason why that should invalidate the warranty. You are not changing the engine at all, simply the gear ratio overall creating the effect of more torque at the rear wheel. If you find that on the flat, your bike will pull happily through to 65mph then probably there is no need but otherwise it's a great mod to do. You will have a lesser top speed but to be honest, the VanVan is designed to cruise around on at say a comfy 50 mph in any case. Also you will find that a screen will help greatly in your progress with acceleration. The lower gearing is great for green lanes and gravel roads too. Best regards
how did it handle in the wet?
Stephen Jackson it's fine in the wet if you take it steady and don't try to get your knee down. ;)
Like any bike with semi off road tyres, get your braking done before the corner, take the corner, bike upright, power back on. I hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs here by the way. Tyre pressure is critical. 18 psi back and front, no more, no less (they are low pressure balloon tyres). I found that either way severely effects the handling. Get yourself on the VANVAN forum. It's a little bit "clicky" I found but they are harmless enough and happy to help.
Spot on.
Thanks for your comment. I've had so many 125's now and this really is the best built one I have had in a while. I sold a Honda CB125F recently as it was rusting away on the "Stainless steel" exhaust and both sets of foot pegs at only 3 months despite ACF treatment. Such a shame as it was a good bike but this blows it away. It's not as quick or fuel efficient as some but it's so capable and nice to live with. No wonder Suzuki kept it going for so long.
was good to meet you earlier. Are you local?
Yes I am. Just around the corner from where we had a chat. I see you've been having a few ride outs around the local area too. Ride safe
+Scooty Man Yeah you too. what camera and mic do you use btw?
+Bosseyed Beaver I use the same as you, a GoPro Session. I don't use a separate mic and I also have a base model GoPro Hero I use for rearward shots and also on a chesty mount. I'm looking again for another one now. I might buy a different brand next time
I must say the VanVan has had my attention ever since Spicy110 did a review of the 200cc model recently; I absolutely love the retro styling combined with modern internals; I guess it's just a question of what I'll need a bike to do if I do decide to go down the avenue of getting my CBT. Just one query (for now); RoyalJordanian mentioned in his brief ride video that he felt it wasn't a good bike for beginners because "it rides and handles completely differently to a normal bike". Can anyone who owns one elaborate on that a little and/or refute it?
Hello Beagleman, I think RJ might be referring to the way the fat tyres make the bike handle/feel. I notice it when I jump off the VanVan and onto the S Wing scooter that I have. With the VanVan you have to make a conscious effort to 'steer' the bike. The fat tyres make the steering feel like it's a little lethargic but once you're used to it you grow to love it. One thing I disagree with RJ over actually because it's easier to control in my opinion and much less wobbling at low speed with those wide bars. I actually like the way it feels and whilst it's not an outright off road bike, it feels nice and stable on gravel and dry dirt trails. You need to ride one and then try maybe a Yamaha YBR and you will instantly understand the point that RJ was making. Hope that helps and best regards
Thanks a bunch; on a side note it is nice to find someone else who doesn't like obnoxiously loud exhausts xD!
+Beagleman1996 yes, once again I think they have a time and a place i.e London centre in rush hour for a bit more presence but when I tour around I really couldn't stand 110 db in my ears all day long. I think it would drive you insane and the novelty would soon wear off in that situation. I'm currently looking at having my exhaust powder coated to stop any rust from developing. There's a coating called Cerakote which I am considering and I'll make a video of that if I go ahead. Ride safe and if you'd like any further information, or indeed if you live close to me and want to have a ride on a VanVan, feel free to ask away. Best regards
Scooty Man Well I'm currently studying at the University of Southampton, and trust me, I would absolutely love to ride the VanVan since a 125cc Motorcycle is definitely a potential avenue I'm considering for future transport, assuming a job requires a lot of urban commuting, but I fear that, since I haven't even taken my CBT (let alone academic work and even what my parents would think; they, understandably, would cite safety concerns) that might not be a very good idea, although numerous Motorcyle Vlog videos have taught me how to ride a geared bike, and I've held a manual car licence for two years. Thanks very much for the offer, regardless :)
+Beagleman1996 well it's a small world as I was born in Southampton and my family live there still. I'm hopefully moving back soon too. Ok no worries but if and when you're ready, give us a shout and I'll have a ride down and let you have a bash around a car park. All the best
hello mate , bit of a late comment but just recently put a deposit down on one of these it’s a 2016 only done 3000 miles , i’m 17 stone and 6’2 do you think id have problems riding one due to my size ? more concerned about height than weight really if you’d said you’ve had you and your mrs on and still managed 60 , cheers !
Nathan Holland Hello Nathan,
Thanks for your message. You will be fine with height on this bike and your weight won’t be a problem either. One recommendation I would make to you would be to change the front sprocket to one tooth less than standard as these bikes don’t pull well with the standard gearing. Add a small screen or a taller Givi screen and you will fly along. The VanVan by nature is quite high geared out of the factory and in my opinion struggles to make progress before switching to a lower gearing (the front sprocket mod). When I bought this one, I rode it from Rugby all the way back to Farnborough and it had no get up and go. At that moment I thought what have I bought! It struggled to go over 55 mph with me on board alone BUT change the sprockets as I have mentioned and it will pull much better and you’ll hit the rev limiter in top at around 68 mph.
You will really enjoy the VanVan and have loads of fun on it I’m sure.
If I can be of any further help just drop me a message.
Best regards
Scooty Man Scooty Man cheers for the thorough reply helped a lot , it’s mainly going to be a commuter for me but if i can do that will be doing some touring a few other riders in a vanvan forum in have said to do exactly the same , not handy enough to do it myself but have a mechanic friend who can do it for me , thank again !
Mpg?
I average around 90mpg. That's an imperial gallon btw in case you live in US, 4.546 litres approximately. It's not so bad considering the bike has a huge rear tyre that inevitably creates more drag. You only have to look at the Honda CB125F mpg to confirm that with its 90/90-18 rear tyre.
Drive it lol. It's like a guitar review without playing it.
Frivolity Machine
....nope, I don't get what your saying. You clearly must be much more intelligent than me. Thanks anyway for gracing my channel and leaving positive input that we all benefit from. You must be so busy so I'm honoured you took the time.
Best regards