This would work with angled pricking irons as long as you have both a regular and a reverse iron. I think KSblade and Sinabroks both make reverse angle irons specifically for this.
Tim: Your pricking holes on each side is very similar to Nigel Armitage's 'pre pricking' method of working. He will make an exact size template out of 1mm cardstock. Mark all the holes, punch them through the pattern and then use the pattern to punch the holes on both sides of his project. He uses standard Japanese or French stitching chisels (angled slots) and it works really well. So, you are in very good company. The ultimate way is to have matching stitching irons that are reversed. Lots of money and not really necessary. I prefer the round punches you like since I love stitching with 1mm Ritza 25 thread.
I'm glad he does it too! I thought I had come up with my own weird way of doing it. And yeah I can't imagine pulling that 1mm through a tradition chisel's hole.
Looks great! I may have touched upon this in a previous comment but with diamond shaped chisels, the skewed diamond shaped holes would be turned the opposite way if you punch in from both sides. And the holes will not align as neatly. So you would need those reverse chisels. My current attempt at punching clean holes through thick leather involves these diamond shaped pliers that match my chisels perfectly. They bite through both sides at the same time, towards the middle. So I glue up first, then chisel half way, then use the pliers in the existing holes. Which works but you have to be very careful to align the teeth on the back stitching line. Your method looks great for round holes! I might try some round point chisels in the future but I’ve been buying too much stuff lately.
You're absolutely right! I even had that point written down in my outline in front of me on the desk and forgot to mention it. I did leave a disclaimer in the description explaining, though. I sometimes forget that not everyone uses round punches. I switched to some cheap round ones early on and started using this method because they were not that easiest to use. I wonder if it would work if you punched one half through the grain side and the other half through the flesh side. In theory that should work. I might have to dust off my diamond chisels and give it a go. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! I've found what works for me is punching one side of it first. Then I mark the other side with the wing dividers and fold it over to where it should be and poke a couple holes straight through with my awl (start and end points). Then mark the holes and the last one should end up right where the last hole you poked with your awl is. It's hard to explain without showing it but I hope that makes sense.
Yeah, sorry. I put a disclaimer in the description. I use a round punch. This trick wouldn't work with slanted ones unless you had another set slanting in the opposite direction or flipped the one side over. Totally forgot to mention it when I filmed 🤦♂️
Thanks for sharing! That's a very neat trick. A bit off topic: do you do trim allowance? I couldn't really tell from this video, but the edges looked pretty clean and polished. Are you going for sanding only? PS. "Beard envy levels approaching critical"
I do a different style of trim allowance. Instead of making the whole thing bigger and trimming it, I generally make the wallet (or whatever it is) body the right size, then make pocket slots and such a bit bigger. Then I trim the excess off with the skiving knife straight up and down butted against the wallet body. This is probably not the best way but it works for me. And thanks about the beard! I think it's two years old now!
For me, I just design my patterns in Illustrator, and I create my own stitching holes. So then I know it will always line up no matter how thick the leather is. Shameless plug, I made a video a few days ago that explains this: th-cam.com/video/Ne9LEPRBTIA/w-d-xo.html
Sorry guys. Take a look at the description. I forgot to mention this trick only really works for round punches. It gets tricky with angled chisels.
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Haha I'm sorry brother! Maybe I'll try finding a way to make it work for those!
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This would work with angled pricking irons as long as you have both a regular and a reverse iron. I think KSblade and Sinabroks both make reverse angle irons specifically for this.
Tim: Your pricking holes on each side is very similar to Nigel Armitage's 'pre pricking' method of working. He will make an exact size template out of 1mm cardstock. Mark all the holes, punch them through the pattern and then use the pattern to punch the holes on both sides of his project. He uses standard Japanese or French stitching chisels (angled slots) and it works really well. So, you are in very good company. The ultimate way is to have matching stitching irons that are reversed. Lots of money and not really necessary. I prefer the round punches you like since I love stitching with 1mm Ritza 25 thread.
I'm glad he does it too! I thought I had come up with my own weird way of doing it. And yeah I can't imagine pulling that 1mm through a tradition chisel's hole.
You can clamp your iron between two square pieces of wood and then hit with mallet to get a straight up and down punch.
best tutorial so far , thanks to you... (Philippines)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
Good video man! Definitely a solid way to get clean stitch lines on both sides!
Thanks, Ira!!
Looks great! I may have touched upon this in a previous comment but with diamond shaped chisels, the skewed diamond shaped holes would be turned the opposite way if you punch in from both sides. And the holes will not align as neatly. So you would need those reverse chisels.
My current attempt at punching clean holes through thick leather involves these diamond shaped pliers that match my chisels perfectly. They bite through both sides at the same time, towards the middle. So I glue up first, then chisel half way, then use the pliers in the existing holes. Which works but you have to be very careful to align the teeth on the back stitching line.
Your method looks great for round holes! I might try some round point chisels in the future but I’ve been buying too much stuff lately.
You're absolutely right! I even had that point written down in my outline in front of me on the desk and forgot to mention it. I did leave a disclaimer in the description explaining, though. I sometimes forget that not everyone uses round punches. I switched to some cheap round ones early on and started using this method because they were not that easiest to use.
I wonder if it would work if you punched one half through the grain side and the other half through the flesh side. In theory that should work. I might have to dust off my diamond chisels and give it a go.
Thanks for watching!
I'm so glad I read this comment before trying this method tomorrow. Thanks for pointing that out.
Great tip will try for sure!
Let me know how it goes, dude!
Yah thats really thick. Nice work.
Thank you!
Thank you Master
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Thanks for the head's up 😎🤙🏽
Another great video, keep em coming. How do you tackle punching straight on a folded 3 pocket card holder like your Davis?
Thank you! I've found what works for me is punching one side of it first. Then I mark the other side with the wing dividers and fold it over to where it should be and poke a couple holes straight through with my awl (start and end points). Then mark the holes and the last one should end up right where the last hole you poked with your awl is.
It's hard to explain without showing it but I hope that makes sense.
You could also try using a jig on a press if you have one with an iron that has less taper
That's a good idea! It'd be great for people in apartments or places where they have to be quiet.
Hey man are you using a flat iron I’m just looking at my irons and it seems like I’d need a reverse iron so that they slanting in the same direction
Yeah, sorry. I put a disclaimer in the description. I use a round punch. This trick wouldn't work with slanted ones unless you had another set slanting in the opposite direction or flipped the one side over.
Totally forgot to mention it when I filmed 🤦♂️
good stuff brother 💪🏼
Thank you! Much appreciated!
wich glue is this buddy... nice tutorial tks🎉
Why the hole/opening on the fold of the wallet? Is it necessary ? I just sew the entire bottom. Am I doing it wrong ? Cheers from Montreal.
Thanks for sharing! That's a very neat trick.
A bit off topic: do you do trim allowance? I couldn't really tell from this video, but the edges looked pretty clean and polished. Are you going for sanding only?
PS. "Beard envy levels approaching critical"
I do a different style of trim allowance. Instead of making the whole thing bigger and trimming it, I generally make the wallet (or whatever it is) body the right size, then make pocket slots and such a bit bigger. Then I trim the excess off with the skiving knife straight up and down butted against the wallet body.
This is probably not the best way but it works for me.
And thanks about the beard! I think it's two years old now!
Fooled Me: I thought for sure you were gonna break out the harbor Freight Drill press!!
Really nice video, thanks! I have a question, can we have same results with the stitching punch with 4mm spacing?
Thank you! The spacing shouldn't make a difference.
how much is the piece that you are doing is worth @ retail
You: how to get straight stitching on both sides
Me: what am I supposed to do to make both stitches identically slanted? 😭🤧
Haha it's hard for sure. A slanted pricking iron is definitely your friend to get those gorgeous slants. That and a boat load of practice.
For me, I just design my patterns in Illustrator, and I create my own stitching holes. So then I know it will always line up no matter how thick the leather is. Shameless plug, I made a video a few days ago that explains this:
th-cam.com/video/Ne9LEPRBTIA/w-d-xo.html