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If a safe is fire proof already, it should be a document safe. Still, most safes are only fire-resistant for a couple of hours maximum.@@TheShockwave44
@@TheShockwave44 Most safes are not Fireproof for longer than 15-30 Minutes max. And even the 30 Minute Fireproof safes start with the Price Tag of 10.000€.
instead of writing the same number for each word add +1 so if you word is #3001, write it down as #3002 for each word. So when you need a seedphrase you will know that the number is 3002-1=3001. But the person who stole or found a plate wouldn't be able to guess and will think that the seed phrase is wrong. I don't know why no one explain this extra feature, it's easy to remember
Also, it doesn't make sense to burn the conversion sheet if it's a fixed value known on the internet. There's no cipher to it. If you created a cipher, and the cipher was on the sheet, it makes sense.
That's the power of Grade 2 titanium, you can look it up. This specific titanium can bend but doesn't break easily. It's weird but it works. Did you see the bulletproof videos?
People fail to understand what Cryptotag is and what it aims to accomplish. And it fascinates me. "What if you lose it?" "What if someone finds it?" "What if it gets stolen?" You stand to lose your crypto, that's what. Now riddle me this - how is your own inattentiveness the metal slab's fault? Cryptotag is a more durable and more secure physical storage method compared to a piece of paper. Nothing more than that. It doesn't become invisible or intangible, and it also doesn't teleport to a pocket universe if it detects an unknown person in the room. It's just a slab of metal, and just like paper, it can be stolen. Or found by someone who shouldn't find it.
Thank you. We do indeed not promise your crypto cannot be lost anymore. Or that your crypto is safe from whatever. A cryptotag eliminates the common reasons why people lose their seed phrase. Thank you for the kind words.
It's not decoding though. The BIP39 wordlist with numbers is publicly available on the internet. Storing the numbers was never used as a decoding method. A paper just makes it easier to find the correlating numbers/ words.
Wouldn't it be better to make these from some kind of tough silicone/ plastic so one can bury it without a possibility of a metal detector finding it? I mean - just as most ppl below - I see little point of having it in this form when every one can decipher it freely... Just a thought.
For that use case, maybe. But the biggest risk is a house fire. In that case, plastic or silicon will be a bad choice. Titanium is a great material to combat house fires.
If someone were to steal the cryptotag; wouldn't all they would need is to get ahold of the conversion booklet and they would have the 12 or 24 word recovery?
So you need to write the words down anyway and decipher what words match up with the numbers? Why not just keep the paper since you need both pieces to find out the word? Seems like it’s twice the work
Great question. You don't need the paper later on as your words come from the official open-source and industry-standard BIP39 wordlist. The numbers are also in there. So if you ever need to recover your wallet, just use the booklet or any other copy of it on the internet. Do a quick search for: "BIP39 wordlist" and you'll see ;)
@@AE-nm8kx Be careful when splitting the plates. It increases the risk of losing a part. Your best bet would be to add a Passphrase to your wallet. This way, your Cryptotag is useless without the extra layer!
It is combination of 24 out of 2048 words without repetition. So if my counting is not bad you going to get4.173112217441×105 combinations that's 41731122174410236047796743722730466018640279171473593600. So wish you best pf luck to try hit right one.
I thought of that too and although 24 words is super secure , some cold wallets support a 24+1, a 25th word. This one you keep in your head and is not part of the 2048 BIP39 list. 😅
Grab a calculator, and then do this: 2048^24 That's how many possible combinations there are if you were trying to guess the word combinations. So the chance of guessing someone else's seed phrase? Practically impossible, if not mathematically. Let's say you had the 24 words but in the wrong order. Easy to figure out, right? Well, 24^24 combinations...
@@thehandleiwantedwasntavailable Yes in math is cold combination without repetition where words could be same but order is important as well. Also tou need to know which company he using Trezor ledger etc cause can have 25th word etc. Its impossible
It's hacker-proof in terms of digitally hacking. It's literally a physical product. If a thief (which is the right word) finds it, they would be able to decode it. But a Cryptotag should never be kept in plain sight. You can also add an extra password. So the 12 or 24 words are useless until you have the extra password.
The book with the words is online, and in the same order. This item will not protect you against theft if the person stealing it knows about crypto. This item is for having your keys in physical, offline form, protected from the elements.
Sure, totally understand. That's why we also have a product called Thor that uses letter imprints for the engraving method! With that product, you store the letters of the seed words.
Sounds like a terrible idea? I think I'll just find two bits of metal and get one engraved with 12 words and the other engraved by someone else with the next 12 words. Then I can give half to my daughter and I'll keep the other half...
@@xavierbourguignon37220 Everyone has their methods. Make sure to imprint the seed deep enough in your plate. A drimble wont't work. Also, get a strong plate. You do not want it to break. Cryptotags are bulletproof. And never split your seed phrase. You can't afford risking to lose one of the parts.
This is not 100% safe, It is better to create your own coded sheet where you can do something different. For example one of your words on your list could be show as "TREVENO". This simple code contains the word and the number of the word in between 1 to 24. Can anyone guess what is the word and what number is?
It's to protect it from the elements like fire. It's not to fully protect from theft. You still have to protect like u do when writing down your 24 word. It's basically making your passwords fireproof
If your daughter or son inherits the Cryptotag, that is a pro. But the Cryptotag is used to store the seed phrase safely. A piece of paper won't stand the time
@@javelinchyk Be careful with this method. If you are the only person knowing this, and your daughter or son has to start decoding the numbers and trying all these methods, the risk of loss if big.
The BIP39 wordlist is open-source and can be found anywhere on the internet, starting on GitHub. Go ahead and search: "BIP39 Wordlist" and you will find numerous websites that have the words and numbers! ;)
@@CryptotagOfficial So if someone steales your CryptoTag they will have access to your wallet. In this case how is CryptoTag more secure than a piece of paper? Or i am missing something?
@@CryptotagOfficial So if someone steals or finds the CRYPTOTAG, you're out of luck, they just go to the open-source wordlist and they get the words. What a stupid idea.
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Its better than having the 24 keys phrases on a sheet of paper which can be destroyed by water or fire or pets or angry ex girlfriend
Laminate it. Put it in a safe. Done.
@@TheShockwave44 no
@@123leop Come up with a better argument.
If a safe is fire proof already, it should be a document safe. Still, most safes are only fire-resistant for a couple of hours maximum.@@TheShockwave44
@@TheShockwave44 Most safes are not Fireproof for longer than 15-30 Minutes max.
And even the 30 Minute Fireproof safes start with the Price Tag of 10.000€.
instead of writing the same number for each word add +1
so if you word is #3001, write it down as #3002 for each word.
So when you need a seedphrase you will know that the number is 3002-1=3001. But the person who stole or found a plate wouldn't be able to guess and will think that the seed phrase is wrong.
I don't know why no one explain this extra feature, it's easy to remember
Also, it doesn't make sense to burn the conversion sheet if it's a fixed value known on the internet. There's no cipher to it. If you created a cipher, and the cipher was on the sheet, it makes sense.
@@TH-camHandleModerator Yes but the conversion sheet contains your seed phrase.
@@ClifffSVK Exactly. So it does make perfect sense to burn the seed phrase paper and the conversion sheet.
You can just iterate all variants. It's not hard so +1 or + 1 any static number dos'nt help with security.
and it says CryptoTag on the front side, just in case someone doesn't know what they are robbing 🙂 ¿?
🤣🤣🤣
haha! im gona try to scratch mine out
The official website says its bulletproof but instructs us to create a hole with hand force 😅
That's the power of Grade 2 titanium, you can look it up. This specific titanium can bend but doesn't break easily.
It's weird but it works. Did you see the bulletproof videos?
I get the pun 😂
Wow! Amazing product.
stop lying 😂
my girlfriend said that this person should use moisturizer. But thanks for the tutorial!
Still laughing at this comment everytime we see it 💙
Too complicated. Too much room for humam error eg. punching in or writing the wrong number.
We've got you covered once that happens. Also, the included booklet, word list and tools will make it easy to not make mistakes.
Xray machine will work. Good idea tho
People fail to understand what Cryptotag is and what it aims to accomplish. And it fascinates me.
"What if you lose it?"
"What if someone finds it?"
"What if it gets stolen?"
You stand to lose your crypto, that's what. Now riddle me this - how is your own inattentiveness the metal slab's fault? Cryptotag is a more durable and more secure physical storage method compared to a piece of paper. Nothing more than that. It doesn't become invisible or intangible, and it also doesn't teleport to a pocket universe if it detects an unknown person in the room.
It's just a slab of metal, and just like paper, it can be stolen. Or found by someone who shouldn't find it.
Thank you. We do indeed not promise your crypto cannot be lost anymore. Or that your crypto is safe from whatever.
A cryptotag eliminates the common reasons why people lose their seed phrase. Thank you for the kind words.
so you store it on titanium, but them to decode it you need a piece of paper, makes sense
It's not decoding though. The BIP39 wordlist with numbers is publicly available on the internet. Storing the numbers was never used as a decoding method. A paper just makes it easier to find the correlating numbers/ words.
Wouldn't it be better to make these from some kind of tough silicone/ plastic so one can bury it without a possibility of a metal detector finding it? I mean - just as most ppl below - I see little point of having it in this form when every one can decipher it freely...
Just a thought.
For that use case, maybe. But the biggest risk is a house fire. In that case, plastic or silicon will be a bad choice. Titanium is a great material to combat house fires.
If someone were to steal the cryptotag; wouldn't all they would need is to get ahold of the conversion booklet and they would have the 12 or 24 word recovery?
Correct. We advise adding a Passphrase/ 25th word. But a titanium plate is always a better storage method than a piece of paper
could I out it outside under a rock out it rusting .. for years in changing seasons
Yes! Titanium is extremely durable and is corrosion-resistant!
So you need to write the words down anyway and decipher what words match up with the numbers? Why not just keep the paper since you need both pieces to find out the word? Seems like it’s twice the work
Great question. You don't need the paper later on as your words come from the official open-source and industry-standard BIP39 wordlist. The numbers are also in there.
So if you ever need to recover your wallet, just use the booklet or any other copy of it on the internet. Do a quick search for: "BIP39 wordlist" and you'll see ;)
@@CryptotagOfficial NOW I UNDERSTAND IT. In video is not clear this explanation. TKS
But it can still be stolen and looked up easily :)
What if the titanium gets stolen??
Don't let it get stolen ;) Cryptotag is used to replace paper or saving your seed phrase in the cloud!
Then you're screwed my friend
Your best bet is to sore each half in a different place
@@AE-nm8kx Be careful when splitting the plates. It increases the risk of losing a part. Your best bet would be to add a Passphrase to your wallet. This way, your Cryptotag is useless without the extra layer!
@@CryptotagOfficial would this be the hidden passphrase you add for the model T when setting up wallet for example??
wait..... if there are 2048 words used for the keys. Can't you just grab 24 random words, and then log in to a random wallet?
It is combination of 24 out of 2048 words without repetition. So if my counting is not bad you going to get4.173112217441×105 combinations that's 41731122174410236047796743722730466018640279171473593600. So wish you best pf luck to try hit right one.
I thought of that too and although 24 words is super secure , some cold wallets support a 24+1, a 25th word. This one you keep in your head and is not part of the 2048 BIP39 list. 😅
Grab a calculator, and then do this: 2048^24
That's how many possible combinations there are if you were trying to guess the word combinations.
So the chance of guessing someone else's seed phrase? Practically impossible, if not mathematically.
Let's say you had the 24 words but in the wrong order. Easy to figure out, right? Well, 24^24 combinations...
@@thehandleiwantedwasntavailable Yes in math is cold combination without repetition where words could be same but order is important as well. Also tou need to know which company he using Trezor ledger etc cause can have 25th word etc. Its impossible
th-cam.com/video/2eZ5DP2P5As/w-d-xo.html your welcome
What if any hacker gains access to your CryptoTag and has the book to decode it? It's not hacker proof.
It's hacker-proof in terms of digitally hacking. It's literally a physical product.
If a thief (which is the right word) finds it, they would be able to decode it. But a Cryptotag should never be kept in plain sight.
You can also add an extra password. So the 12 or 24 words are useless until you have the extra password.
@@CryptotagOfficial and how do you create an extra password using Zeus? thanks
@@frankjoy2455 The 25th word is created by you and not stored on the Cryptotag.
Exactly! @@jamesthompson3099 The Passphrase and the seed should always be kept separately.
I memorized my 24 words. Nowhere safer than in my head. And if I have an accident and forget the words, I won't know that I had 100 Bitcoins
Well, this is not the way haha. There are far safer ways to store the seed phrase. But if you're happy with your method , that's fine.
gaaf!
Oook... You mark the digits on the metal card and burn the sheet BUT what if someone got your card AND the "book" with the words?
The book with the words is online, and in the same order. This item will not protect you against theft if the person stealing it knows about crypto. This item is for having your keys in physical, offline form, protected from the elements.
What if 1000 ninjas captured you and forced you to tell them your seed phrase?
@@ZidaneSteiner then you show them that your striking is as good as your ground game lol
@Rolando Garcia Have Chuck Norris as an emergency contact
@@ZidaneSteiner would never happen. They’re not driven by money.
I prefer just words, no numbers
Sure, totally understand. That's why we also have a product called Thor that uses letter imprints for the engraving method! With that product, you store the letters of the seed words.
Or just keep the seed phrase on an implant chip under your skin, safer
Everything that has chips/ is electronic can break. But this is indeed a very futuristic method that could work.
Sounds like a terrible idea? I think I'll just find two bits of metal and get one engraved with 12 words and the other engraved by someone else with the next 12 words. Then I can give half to my daughter and I'll keep the other half...
That's sounds like a much better plan than this ridiculous CRYPTOTAG.
@@xavierbourguignon37220 Everyone has their methods. Make sure to imprint the seed deep enough in your plate. A drimble wont't work. Also, get a strong plate. You do not want it to break. Cryptotags are bulletproof. And never split your seed phrase. You can't afford risking to lose one of the parts.
so fkin cool
This is not 100% safe, It is better to create your own coded sheet where you can do something different. For example one of your words on your list could be show as "TREVENO". This simple code contains the word and the number of the word in between 1 to 24. Can anyone guess what is the word and what number is?
Butt if you loose your own coded sheet? aye.. just store it on it encrypted USB stick - copy that a couple of times
3 veno
@@Tabooza Good try but it is incorrect.
Looks freaking awkward.
You only need to do it once. 😁
It’s stupid. Any one can look up the wordlist and it says crypto right on the front. Not discreet, not wise.
It's to protect it from the elements like fire. It's not to fully protect from theft. You still have to protect like u do when writing down your 24 word. It's basically making your passwords fireproof
If your daughter or son inherits the Cryptotag, that is a pro. But the Cryptotag is used to store the seed phrase safely. A piece of paper won't stand the time
@@javelinchyk Be careful with this method. If you are the only person knowing this, and your daughter or son has to start decoding the numbers and trying all these methods, the risk of loss if big.
Still you can lose the book with the words/numbers. The CryptoTag will not be worth much then
The BIP39 wordlist is open-source and can be found anywhere on the internet, starting on GitHub. Go ahead and search: "BIP39 Wordlist" and you will find numerous websites that have the words and numbers! ;)
@@CryptotagOfficial So if someone steales your CryptoTag they will have access to your wallet. In this case how is CryptoTag more secure than a piece of paper? Or i am missing something?
@@CryptotagOfficial So if someone steals or finds the CRYPTOTAG, you're out of luck, they just go to the open-source wordlist and they get the words. What a stupid idea.
We just need money nothing will happen with these 24 words