I'm still in awe how fast you move your camera around when a tree starts falling to give us a different angle perspective! I guess running from bees and bears keeps your speed abilities top notch!
I've been watching felling/chainsaw videos for the last few years. This is the first mention of depth gauge height I've heard. I haven't even heard of filing rakers.Thank you. (Probably this is the first time I was paying attention! :')
Well I still like you no matter what the experts say on TH-cam. It was VERY CLEAR in the first video, but I guess some of your viewers need to be spoon fed of course they do! I'm sure they don't get your GREAT absolutely hilarious sense of humor either!!! Please keep it coming. I WANT MORE CLICKBAIT VIDEOS FROM Wilson Forest Lands! West Coast!! ❤
Great now gots a case of depth set clicks forward backward clicks. Now I don’t know if I’m going or coming just as long as I don’t trip or get stuck in all that well probably should make sure my bootie’s are laced up. Now that’s another vid. You sure is phunny thanks
I purchased my first MSR whisper lite in 1986 or early 87. We used it on the CDNT in 87.I still have that stove and original pump. I bought countless jet cleaners and still have a supply. I collect stoves and have at least 20 different MSR stoves in my collection. I like them all but it is satisfying to start up my 37 year old stove and boil water. Thanks !!!!!
Good work as usual, you and buckin Billy Ray are the 2 go to guys as far as I'm concerned. I made the mistake one time of taking an angle grinder to my chain and doing a raker delete.the chain cut awesome but I got sick of my chainsaw trying to kiss me.
Glad for this repost of this topic. I could have sworn I saw your first video from Steve's Small Engine Saloon. My mistake. I have two stories. First, my then brother-in-laws' neighbor had some tree work done and they had a girl (maybe just 18) as a limb cutter and I could tell right away they had put her chain on backwards. I never considered this good training but perhaps it is. Second story, just recently somebody had thrown away a nearly new MS211 Stihl 14" chainsaw (18" is the recommended bar size). It had a missing pull handle but the cord was still in the saw with stop knot. Replaced the handle and the saw fired up immediately however the rakers hadn't been filed at all so the saw wouldn't even cut bark. Probably why it was thrown away. Silly noob chainsaw owners. Thanks for the video.
Hey the old one was fine but you can never make everyone happy, so don't be bothered by them. And having a moderate amount of chainsaw experience I learned a useful amount of information, I was using a chain sharpener that did both jobs but that had its housing Crack bit back and don't use it enough to justify anew one. And as always thanks for another tree fall down go boom moment.
Between the last video, which I did find good, and this one, I tried this on my small saw, and voila...ITY WORKED! I did not use a depth gauge, instead I just winged it to take off some of the rake. Thank Mike for showing us plebes how a real logger gets it done.
'Depth gauge' is more common over here (UK) 'cos it describes what these jobbies do. Rakers are people who use rakes to rake up leaves and stuff. Or the double teeth on a crosscut saw that rake sawdust out of the kerf so the back and forth does more cutting than powderising the sawdust in the kerf. Or structures on fish gills that remove foreign materials so that the gills stay efficient. Rakers on a chainsaw do no raking 'cos the cutters cut and clear as they pass along the kerf. Linguistic drift. Gotta love it....
Good video, but you could add a few things, such as why its a good idea to flip your bar, as shown in this video, also how the depth gauges can be filed more for cutting soft wood than for hardwood. Also I like using a progressive gauge, which I feel works better as the teeth get shorter. Could have also explained when the teeth are too short to sharpen.
Tripped over your channel recently (might be a pun there) and enjoy your presentations. Forests are definitely taking the brunt of modern civilization. You have flat headed fir borers and we have pine bark beetles, along with a host of other conditions. No real solutions, just do the best we can! South central Washington
Not everyone who watches your videos is a lumberjack. Some of us now know to look out for someone who uses that term! :) On a serious note, I'm an armature who has felled 5 trees. None more then 20" in diameter and most 10 to 14". I know to file down my depth gauges but I'm always second guessing myself on height. I just sort of wing it. So please keep those of us who watch who can't count how many trees they have felled and those who took out a large shrub in their suburban yard. Lets all watch out for those lumberjacks yelling "timber"! :)
Ever try the progressive raker tools like Huskys(non-roller type) WCS or Carlton file o plate? My rakers aren't all the same hieght so the tool you showed my not give the best results. Someone decided to hide a construction screw in a tree. 👍🍻
Id like to point out that you were using the mighty 6 sided tri file as a pointer. I'm assuming you file with one of those, and that's no easy feat to master. Nice!
One thing to add is that the gap of the depth gauge not only depends on the chain / saw combination . But also on the wood you cut. You can afford to take out bigger chips when cutting pine and some other soft woods than you can when you stick that bar into a white oak or hickory tree. ....... Don't ask me how I found that out.
Hello Michael, I am really curious on your take on the new Oregon laws/regulations I've been seeing all over from Oregon homesteaders channels where all ground water is now public domain, including private wells. They are starting to put meters on private wells etc... also gov is telling small farmers to shut down crops/gardens? And those with livestock containment areas not on concrete slab that they have to redesign their whole operation to add special capture equipment to prevent waste from seeping into groundwater or something to that effect? Really like to hear from you on this latest topic in Oregon.
The story is far more nuanced than you describe. Groundwater IS a public resource, and commercial use is regulated. Why? Because it it weren't, big business would pump the aquifers dry, leaving nothing for private wells like yours. Commercial users, including factories, farms and ranches, must meter their water so that regulators can protect aquifers from being overdrawn. Private well owners are NOT having their wells metered; in fact, this is an 'exempt use' and you are allowed to pump a very generous 15,000 US gallons per day for each property. Without a meter, of course, this is guesswork. It is a form of honor system. Owners of CAFOs (concentrated animal feeding operations, or feedlots) must comply with some very strict regulations. Why? Because the industry has badly contaminated most aquifers with nitrates, especially in eastern Oregon. This is a serious problem as nitrate poisoning is real and particularly dangerous for infants and toddlers. Countless millions of your tax dollars will be spent over the next few decades trying to clean up the mess and the feedlot industry will get off scot free. Bottom line: sometimes regulations ARE needed to protect the public.
Mmmm Stihl chain. I want to clip the heels off the rakers, grind the rivets down, bevel the edges of the tie straps, set the height to 0.035” and have my way with it
New nit picking for fun... You should have handles on those files to avoid stabbing yourself! 😉 That said, more good information to help increase the saw sharpening skill of many!
Your supposed to put your bar upside down. ..it's called rotation. ..you rotate it everytime you sharpen chain or change chains..or so often you will get grooves on the bar that nerd to be filed ..😅it's made to run on both sides...
Only problem I see is the fact that it's a square ground chain.. you can keep them... I've never been happy with square ground no matter if it's factory or if I grind it
Not opposed to trying one again but every time I have I haven't been happy with them...last one I tried was the Husqvarna c83s and I don't think it was very good compared to my hand grind with a round file
@@chadleitschuh3012 I've got the Simington and I love it. Adjustable angles if you want to tune it to your preference, but I find the factory settings are spot on. Cutting on the BC coast. Fir, cedar, spruce, hemlock..
@@dgoodman1484and add some pet projects into the bill, like funding transgender surgeries in Bangladesh and DEI training for Inuit communities in Greenland
I'm still in awe how fast you move your camera around when a tree starts falling to give us a different angle perspective! I guess running from bees and bears keeps your speed abilities top notch!
hahaha “Click bait reduction act” you always find a way to make me laugh! 😀👍 Thanks
I laughed so loud here in Europe, he probably heard it.
I've been watching felling/chainsaw videos for the last few years. This is the first mention of depth gauge height I've heard. I haven't even heard of filing rakers.Thank you. (Probably this is the first time I was paying attention! :')
I recently came across your videos. Not only are they informative, but your humor is right up my alley
Well I still like you no matter what the experts say on TH-cam. It was VERY CLEAR in the first video, but I guess some of your viewers need to be spoon fed of course they do! I'm sure they don't get your GREAT absolutely hilarious sense of humor either!!! Please keep it coming. I WANT MORE CLICKBAIT VIDEOS FROM Wilson Forest Lands! West Coast!! ❤
I forgot about the depth guages, thanks for the info!
I don't guess I ever noticed the cracking of the tree echoing through the forrest. Quite the interesting phenomenon.
Right. I do agree. It took me a while until I figured out what I needed to do. But now I got me a raker gage
I haven't used a depth gauge in years, but to the new people that's good advice!!!
Best explanation I have heard (and seen)!
Great now gots a case of depth set clicks forward backward clicks. Now I don’t know if I’m going or coming just as long as I don’t trip or get stuck in all that well probably should make sure my bootie’s are laced up. Now that’s another vid. You sure is phunny thanks
I purchased my first MSR whisper lite in 1986 or early 87. We used it on the CDNT in 87.I still have that stove and original pump. I bought countless jet cleaners and still have a supply. I collect stoves and have at least 20 different MSR stoves in my collection. I like them all but it is satisfying to start up my 37 year old stove and boil water. Thanks !!!!!
Good work as usual, you and buckin Billy Ray are the 2 go to guys as far as I'm concerned. I made the mistake one time of taking an angle grinder to my chain and doing a raker delete.the chain cut awesome but I got sick of my chainsaw trying to kiss me.
😂 kiss you!
A few years ago I started using a Stihl 2 in 1 chain sharpener. It seems to work quite well.
Good one Wilson. Good to see you’re speaking again.😁🪵
Wilson, have you ever tried the Carlson raker plate? I used square ground chain for years and I really liked the plate.
Glad for this repost of this topic. I could have sworn I saw your first video from Steve's Small Engine Saloon. My mistake. I have two stories. First, my then brother-in-laws' neighbor had some tree work done and they had a girl (maybe just 18) as a limb cutter and I could tell right away they had put her chain on backwards. I never considered this good training but perhaps it is.
Second story, just recently somebody had thrown away a nearly new MS211 Stihl 14" chainsaw (18" is the recommended bar size). It had a missing pull handle but the cord was still in the saw with stop knot. Replaced the handle and the saw fired up immediately however the rakers hadn't been filed at all so the saw wouldn't even cut bark. Probably why it was thrown away. Silly noob chainsaw owners. Thanks for the video.
Beautiful Square ground chain
I dont see how you could have any disgruntled viewers.
I have always been fully gruntled.
Damn! I was just about to say the same thing! I've never been more gruntled.
Hey the old one was fine but you can never make everyone happy, so don't be bothered by them. And having a moderate amount of chainsaw experience I learned a useful amount of information, I was using a chain sharpener that did both jobs but that had its housing Crack bit back and don't use it enough to justify anew one. And as always thanks for another tree fall down go boom moment.
Between the last video, which I did find good, and this one, I tried this on my small saw, and voila...ITY WORKED! I did not use a depth gauge, instead I just winged it to take off some of the rake. Thank Mike for showing us plebes how a real logger gets it done.
'Depth gauge' is more common over here (UK) 'cos it describes what these jobbies do. Rakers are people who use rakes to rake up leaves and stuff. Or the double teeth on a crosscut saw that rake sawdust out of the kerf so the back and forth does more cutting than powderising the sawdust in the kerf. Or structures on fish gills that remove foreign materials so that the gills stay efficient. Rakers on a chainsaw do no raking 'cos the cutters cut and clear as they pass along the kerf. Linguistic drift. Gotta love it....
You are correct, but sadly old habits die hard and after all these years they're still rakers. 😊
Good video, but you could add a few things, such as why its a good idea to flip your bar, as shown in this video, also how the depth gauges can be filed more for cutting soft wood than for hardwood. Also I like using a progressive gauge, which I feel works better as the teeth get shorter. Could have also explained when the teeth are too short to sharpen.
Thank You!
Always interesting to watch your videos, always walk away with a smile and a handful of knowledge 😊
Tripped over your channel recently (might be a pun there) and enjoy your presentations. Forests are definitely taking the brunt of modern civilization. You have flat headed fir borers and we have pine bark beetles, along with a host of other conditions. No real solutions, just do the best we can! South central Washington
Not everyone who watches your videos is a lumberjack. Some of us now know to look out for someone who uses that term! :) On a serious note, I'm an armature who has felled 5 trees. None more then 20" in diameter and most 10 to 14". I know to file down my depth gauges but I'm always second guessing myself on height. I just sort of wing it. So please keep those of us who watch who can't count how many trees they have felled and those who took out a large shrub in their suburban yard. Lets all watch out for those lumberjacks yelling "timber"! :)
I've never used the gauge. I just hit it with 3 strokes whenever I have a sharp chain, but I don't feel like I'm biting.
Ever try the progressive raker tools like Huskys(non-roller type) WCS or Carlton file o plate? My rakers aren't all the same hieght so the tool you showed my not give the best results. Someone decided to hide a construction screw in a tree. 👍🍻
Carlton file o plate are excellent!
@@beaugalbraith3891 I've heard that. A bit pricey though. 👍🍺
Love the 12 gage tree bang! 😊
Id like to point out that you were using the mighty 6 sided tri file as a pointer. I'm assuming you file with one of those, and that's no easy feat to master. Nice!
One thing to add is that the gap of the depth gauge not only depends on the chain / saw combination . But also on the wood you cut. You can afford to take out bigger chips when cutting pine and some other soft woods than you can when you stick that bar into a white oak or hickory tree. ....... Don't ask me how I found that out.
I just use the Pferd/Stihl sharpener that sets the rakers at exactly the right height when you file the cutters.
Definitely. It works great and is fast and easy. Especially if this is targeted at new chainsaw owners, best to keep sharpening a simple task.
Hello Michael, I am really curious on your take on the new Oregon laws/regulations I've been seeing all over from Oregon homesteaders channels where all ground water is now public domain, including private wells. They are starting to put meters on private wells etc... also gov is telling small farmers to shut down crops/gardens? And those with livestock containment areas not on concrete slab that they have to redesign their whole operation to add special capture equipment to prevent waste from seeping into groundwater or something to that effect?
Really like to hear from you on this latest topic in Oregon.
The story is far more nuanced than you describe. Groundwater IS a public resource, and commercial use is regulated. Why? Because it it weren't, big business would pump the aquifers dry, leaving nothing for private wells like yours. Commercial users, including factories, farms and ranches, must meter their water so that regulators can protect aquifers from being overdrawn. Private well owners are NOT having their wells metered; in fact, this is an 'exempt use' and you are allowed to pump a very generous 15,000 US gallons per day for each property. Without a meter, of course, this is guesswork. It is a form of honor system.
Owners of CAFOs (concentrated animal feeding operations, or feedlots) must comply with some very strict regulations. Why? Because the industry has badly contaminated most aquifers with nitrates, especially in eastern Oregon. This is a serious problem as nitrate poisoning is real and particularly dangerous for infants and toddlers. Countless millions of your tax dollars will be spent over the next few decades trying to clean up the mess and the feedlot industry will get off scot free.
Bottom line: sometimes regulations ARE needed to protect the public.
How much did you pay for your freight container..n???
Mmmm Stihl chain. I want to clip the heels off the rakers, grind the rivets down, bevel the edges of the tie straps, set the height to 0.035” and have my way with it
New nit picking for fun... You should have handles on those files to avoid stabbing yourself! 😉 That said, more good information to help increase the saw sharpening skill of many!
Your bar is upside down.
He’s in Australia
I see what you did there! :)
Actually he's got his saw upside down. Happens sometimes 🙃
Your supposed to put your bar upside down. ..it's called rotation. ..you rotate it everytime you sharpen chain or change chains..or so often you will get grooves on the bar that nerd to be filed ..😅it's made to run on both sides...
@@Sethhaun78 Yeah, that's the joke. We all kind of know this. Sarcasm my friend! :)
As far as click-bait goes, I swear we saw that same tree felled a few weeks ago! Maybe you were just wondering if anyone was paying attention!
I file my rakers to about the thickness of a dime.
Only problem I see is the fact that it's a square ground chain.. you can keep them... I've never been happy with square ground no matter if it's factory or if I grind it
I'll grind one for you. You'll love it 😊
What kind of grinder do you have?
I hand grinds all my chains never been satisfied with an electric grinder that's affordable..
@@chadleitschuh3012 they are expensive that's for sure.
Not opposed to trying one again but every time I have I haven't been happy with them...last one I tried was the Husqvarna c83s and I don't think it was very good compared to my hand grind with a round file
@@chadleitschuh3012 I've got the Simington and I love it. Adjustable angles if you want to tune it to your preference, but I find the factory settings are spot on.
Cutting on the BC coast. Fir, cedar, spruce, hemlock..
🤷 what
Click click click….😂
No way the republicans are going to pass the Click Bait Reduction Act; it benefits the overall population and stymies grifting. 😂
No doubt the Dems will either add a fee or just tax it out of existence 😏
You both are right. 🤣😉👍
@@dgoodman1484and add some pet projects into the bill, like funding transgender surgeries in Bangladesh and DEI training for Inuit communities in Greenland
When I see you channel I always think "click bait" lol YEP 100% click bait!! you got me i subbed because of the bait. :)