Discover Dvorak's New World Symphony (Discovering Classical Music, Ep. 5)
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- An in-depth guide to Dvorak Symphony No. 9, the New World Symphony, also known as "From the New World".
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This episode looks in depth at Dvorak's famous symphony, From the New World. It spends some time focusing on the influence of negro spirituals, gospel songs, and other African American or Native American influences in this music; it particularly considers the spiritual, Goin' Home, and the gospel song, Jesus the Light of the World, and how it ties in with the Largo 2nd movement.
Following this, there is an analysis of each movement of this symphony.
Presented by Oscar Osicki
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I can't tell you how many times I tripped up on the word "Dvorak" when recording this
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANK YOU!!!
You got it beautifully, though, very close to the Czech pronunciation. Kertész, however, is pronounced with a sharp s at the end, Kertess.
Thank you very much. I drag my dad to NSO concerts fairly routinely and I'm always looking for videos explaining pieces of music to him. This really helps!
I just sent your video to my father who is learning the New World No 9 on the piano...
He'll love it.
Keep up your great work...between you and Twoset I have gained a great appreciation of the classical genre...A BIG
Thanks...😁
This is literally the most catchy symphony ever
Each movement has like three or four distinct melodies and every single one of them is a banger
I am a professional Orchestral trombonist, and I’ve performed this piece. Dvorak knew well how to use the trombone section. In fact, he was a master of orchestration....easily the match of Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Wagner, Rimsky-Korsakov, and Berlioz.
Hi Lyle, Agreed, and I would add Ravel to the list of masters of orchestration.
We Czechs, really, really love brass music. Gave Word Polka. mariachi music with trumpets can be tracked down to Czech military band whom came to Mexico with Habsburg Mexican Emperor Maximilian.
@@lukasvrabec5783 Wow, I never knew that! Thanks for the info.
This was my grandmother's favorite piece of music. We played the 2nd movement at her funeral, it's truly beautiful.
You have a voice well suited to radio, this was a very enjoyable listen both in terms of content and presentation
I had the great pleasure of playing this symphony last year. Then a few weeks ago by a weird coincidence I stumbled across the block in NYC that Dvorak lived on (and wrote this symphony on). His old apartment building is no longer there, but it was still a very cool moment.
I always screamed when I saw this video bc Dvorák is my fave composer
after I listened to dvořáks new world symphony #9 op.4 about a thousand times I watched an episode of one piece and was so surprised when I heard the piece play
I remember it too, it was during the last fight between Luffy and Crocodile/Mr. 0.
It was also used in a boss battle on the PS3/X-box 360 game Asura's Wrath.
@@DaidriveCJ shut the F up weeb nobody cares. just because LOTG has a few mahler, wagner, beethoven or chopin pieces doesn't mean its anything more than chinese cartoons.
@@samaritan29 Hahaha! How very cute, someone's upset for no real reason.
I've also noticed the track being used in a decent number of commercials too, do you have any "gems" about that observation as well?
I love classical/orchestral music, I'm getting deeper in my knowledge and understanding thereof, video games, movies, cartoons and yes, even anime(Gasp! _THE HORROR!_ ) got me even more into it, they were some of my first exposure to certain pieces, especially when I was younger.
Take your bellyaching and virtue signaling elsewhere.
@@DaidriveCJ Calm down buddy, the post i made was clearly satirical. honestly i DGAF where u discovered classical music. whether it be anime, video games, media, who cares, im not dumb enough to gate keep people from being a classical music fan depending on their first exposure to it. in fact there’s a fair amount of crossover between anime and classical music
A lot of tryhard anime (Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Evangelion, etc.), aka my favorite kind, makes prominent use of classical in their soundtracks
Also, shows like Nodame Cantabile, Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, and La Corda d’Oro popped up in the past ~15 years that focus directly on classical music, with varying degrees of realism.
Point is, honestly as long as u can appreciate good music like classical, the source of your initial exposure whether it be anime or TV doesn't matter one bit. Thanking for listening to my Ted talk.
@@samaritan29 Oh, so we're basically saying the same thing, huh? Very nice!
I like how knowledgeable and passionate you are.
Fascinating. The fourth movement of this was the first real classical piece I played on my high school’s orchestra, and I loved hearing an analysis of it to add another facet to my experience with it. For your next episode, could you do Brahms’ Symphony no.4?
Absolutely fascinating podcast. I love this entire series.
Please do the rite of Spring: one of the most kind blowing pieces of music anyone can listen to
Or the Fire bird. Or anything by Stravinsky
Well, mind blowing it was at the time it came out. Today it even seems kinda trite, because it has been imitated and iterated on so much.
I just love this work! In my top three of favourite symphonies...
The stories behind the symphony are so fascinating and eye-opening!
I've never listened to a classical music guide before. This was a lot of fun--definitely pointed out a lot I wouldn't have noticed or appreciated.
YES!!! Thank you man, this episode was extra awesome.
Oh this is awesome! This is the music we played this season in my band!!! Definitely a powerful piece.
That was absolutely awesome!!! The characterization of the themes and their origins were super real and informative giving purpose to their tonal centers...
One of my favorite pieces ever!
Loved the anecdote in the beginning!
Thanks for a wonderful video:) I am Czech and have been singing since the age of 6. Whenever I listen to the New World Symphony, I only hear echoes of Czech folk songs and pictures of the Czech countryside arise in my mind. If anyone here in the comment section feels like listening to this piece anytime soon, I URGE you to pour a glass of wine, play some compilation of the Czech landscape and then listen to the Symphony. You will see what I mean;)
Thank you for this magistral initiation in helping beginners understand and love music.
Bravo! This was incredible!
This is fantastic, I love Dvorak he writes the most incredible melody’s there’s no one like him! I love the American pieces he wrote (string quartet and sonatina etc)
Fascinating! Amazing explanation.
I’ve been listening to classical music for 50 years, and yet, I still learned something new watching your presentation. Thank you.
This has long been one of my favorites. I am not a musician and am pretty much ignorant of music theory. I have always thought of the piece as just one lovely melody melody after another, artfully stitched together. Your explanation of the elements and construction of the composition makes me appreciate it all the more. Thank you!
This symphony was the one that stole my heart ♥ It never fails to pull at my heartstrings.
I love Dvorak's other works as well (Symphony 2, 5, 6, 7, & 8 also his American suite, Cezch suite and nature, life and love overtures).
I actually went to see Dvorak's symphony 9 performed at my local orchestra a few months ago (back in March).
I just did a cd recording with that piece. So cool to see your video now!
Wow this is amazing
Amazing. Thank you :)
Very enlightening.
Wonderful! Thank you!
Yesss my dude. One of my all time favorites :D
Well done! Your love for the music really comes across. I think I will give the Masur/NYPO Teldec recording of the New World a listen. It's a good one!
Thanks very much for the inspired presentation.
I love these podcasts! Keep up the good work!
I don't know how accurate this is : but I believe Dvorak was deeply inspired by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's Song of Hiawatha for the middle movements and the very last chord. I loved reading it while listening to the symphony.
i am so glad you included paul robeson,s singing. the first leader of black rights. a giant,genius, now, sadly forgotten. your series is wonderful. thank you so much. wonderful music. hours of pleasure. i listen over and over
Going to a representation of this symphony next week!
Dvorak 9 gotta be my favourit symphony of all time
I love your videos!! please do one of Berlioz fantastique symphony 🙏🙏
Amazing music. I have heard of this composer but I have not heard his music before.
this is one of those things that makes me wish i knew more about classical music.
The theme for Hobbiton in Lord of the Rings sounds REALLY similar to this as well.
damn I thought I was the only one hearing it
YES!
The world of film score owes so much to this piece. You can hear inspiration from this in John Williams' work too (as well as many others).
Well I do enjoy these videos quite a bit. I would like to see an analysis of Mahler's 4th symphony.
Man, your content is extraordinary! I feel bad haven't discovered you earlier!
If I may, I would like to suggest a topic for a possible prospective video: "compostions and composers ahead of their time".
For example: the last sonata (Op. 111) by van Beethoven with its boogie-woogie-style section in movement two, Wilhelm Friedemann Bach's polonaises or the second movement of Haydn's sonata in f major (Op. 23). It might be an interesting topic!
Have a listen to the recording by Rafael Kubelik with the Berlin Philharmonic from 1973 or the Czech Philharmonic orchestea from 1991. Kubelik is Czech, so he has a very special Access to Dvorak Music, as does Vaclav Neumann to Gustav Mahler
Gasp! Dropping the "bullocks" bomb. This is my kind of Classical music analysis. 😊
Thank you. You are my latest discovery on TH-cam.
I sang the hymn Jesus, the Light of the World as a child. It is found in the Baptist Standard Hymnal. We sang it as a hymn. It evolved into a gospel later.
Great episode! It would be really useful if you time stamped each section in the description.
My school orchestra paired up with the winds and brass for an arrangement of the 4th movement! It was my first time playing with brass and winds and it was amazing.
Could you do an analysis of Vivaldi's Four Seasons?
Love “From the New World” Symphony. Probably my favorite non-Beethoven Symphony.
This may be my favorite symphony ever. Gustavo Dudamel conduct it the best.
I have read an analysis that claims the 3rd movement suggests a thunderstorm on the Great Plains and the fourth movement suggests a steam engine pulling away from a station and accelerating. I kind of hear it, but I'm curious what others think.
I don't have any particular go-to recording for this piece, but among the ones that I've listened to I recommend the excellent 1958 Reiner/Chicago Symphony Orchestra version by RCA.
Thank you fro this brilliant series, absolutely helpful for a someone new in classical music. Would it be possible to do an episode about Bedřich Smetana's Má vlast? Especially the second piece" Valtava", absolutely fabulous.
*Vltava
Oh, yes please!
In Prague there is a quarter with alleys near Modau called "New World". This was also suspected of being the title holder. - Heinz
The number of westerns I've watched as a child that used themes from this symphony I simply cannot count...
27:31 I still think he’s quoting the emporer concerto
Excellent podcast!
I usually skip the second movement, because I feel like nothing happens really. But after listening to this I think I will not see (or rather hear) this whole symphony the same way!
I am very impressed by how you manage to explain music very clearly without even showing the sheet music!
I also have a question about the whole series. Do you recommand listening to the pieces prior to watching your podcasts? I have never listened to Mahler 2 and I wonder whether I should listen to it before watching the episode that covers it or whether the podcast gives the key for a more enjoyable first listening.
Huge thanks!
Podcast prior to listening helps me with the bigger works like Mahler, Strauss, Bruckner. It's good to know where you are in the big picture, and you are more sensitive to bigger build-ups, which is awesome for Mahler 2!!
Really?!? It's by far my favorite movement in the whole symphony. The magical feel of nature it gives me has only been equaled by Mahler's and Beethoven's 6th.
I can't help but have some Star Wars feels when listening to that piece. The most obvious is the first theme of the 4th movement, which sounds very much like The Throne Room theme from A New Hope. Then, there is the second theme of the first movement which feels like Rey's Theme in the sequel trilogy. Other parts also feel like Star Wars, although I can't pinpoint exactly the themes. It seems to me that John Williams was heavily influenced by Dvorak. Of course, the symphony "From a New World" is grandiose on its own merits.
Somewhere in the third movement, you can clearly hear a near-verbatim version of the 'Duel of the Fates' melody...
Both, the Kertesz and Rowicki cycles (London Symphony on both) are certainly worth having, but one simply MUST have at least one set played by the Czech Philharmonic. The Neumann set is quite satisfying, especially in the earlier symphonies.
When I first heard Going Home, I thought it’s inspired by a Chinese folk song. Now I know it’s probably because of the pentatonic scale. It’s amazing that so many folk music uses the pentatonic scale!
Oddly enough, the melody reminds me of a Baptist song called Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus.
The brief history blurb before the analysis was great! Thanks for putting in the time to research the "legend" behind the piece; otherwise, I'd be just one more swain parroting that Dvorak was running around America listening to spirituals and indigenous music
It was bloody fascinating! I started at 8pm one night and was up til 2am trying to get to the bottom of this spiritual. Texting friends across the Atlantic, going through old books which mentioned "Massa Dear" - it's very hard to get to the bottom of the original source of Massa Dear.
I'd almost hoped that it had been a spiritual. Because there's this extraordinary source online. Check it out. I was so compelled by this until I discovered the true origin of Massa Dear.
mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=3361696
@@InsidetheScore Ahhhh, I can't view the site. Last year I had a course on Harlem literature--Zora Neale Hurston, Jean Toomer, Du Bois, etc. These black authors often criticized white Americans for infiltrating Negro spaces like tourists and for appropriating Negro culture and music on account of their exoticism and thrill. I think it's so interesting that according to your research, Dvorak understood Negro spirituals to capture America's voice. Even more interesting, and perhaps controversial, is that Dvorak took it upon himself to create his own Negro spiritual and thereby unintentionally mirror the actions of racist white American appropriators.
Neeme Järvi, conducting The Scottish National Orchestra, pretty much recorded every major work of Antonín Dvořák and released them as a series of albums between 25 and 30 years ago. I personally recommend any of that series, especially for collectors of Dvořák. I also highly recommend the Deutsche Grammophon recordings of Herbert von Karajan with the Berlin Philharmonic and/or with the Wiener Philharmoniker -- symphonies nos. 7, 8 and 9 in particular, with either orchestra.
My personal favourite rendition of Dvorak 9 is the Deutsche Grammophon recording of Ferenc Fricsay with the Berlin Philharmonic.
I think Kubelík's and Alsop's recordings are the best. Never been a fan of Jarvi, but I'll always respect it
Funny that you say the last movement is in Sonata form. I have always heard it as a theme and variations, like the finale of his 8th symphony. In fact, I remember being taught it was a theme and variations by my professors. I can see how it would be sonata form, but I can't help hearing it as theme and variations.
Could you please tell me, where did you get the information from? What research did you make? I mean books/articles any links? Thanks
Please. Shostoakivich leningrad symphony
its great work... l play this symphony with Iraqi symphony orchestra...and allso l conduct this is..through..the rehearse
Great analisys, now please, review Darius Milahude "Le Creation Du Monde".
Can you possibly pit the links of the recordings in the description?
Please do Brahms 4! Insanely great! Or Beethoven 3...
The Sousa band existed (and other bands) playing locally (US) written materials. I wonder what effect that might have had, tunes and orchestration, especially the first movement? Do you ever see references such as that in the literature?
I played both Trumpet and Frenchhorn in this great Symphony several times. And its so great. But he second movement is really tough for the trumpetplayers. We shall take a very hight note in tune with in sense cold instrument. lol. Fun fact. In some publications of the this symphony the brass parts are named Symphony No 5 and not 9. Never understood why though?
The third movement do kinda sound Americana, is kinda like Aaron Copland got his type of style from that very movement. Its sounds really like you going by train through the American west. or something. :-) And in the end of the Fourth movement you can almost hear a rock'n roll or Jazzy kinda walkbass in the low brass instruments and doubles basses.
Jerry Berglund many years ago, the symphonies were renumbered. I believe it was because several symphonies thought lost were found. If you buy older recordings, this Symphony is numbered 5.
Can you make Rhapsody in Blue?
Just for your elucidation: István Kertész (English translation = "Steven Gardener") is pronounced "ISHT-van CARE-tace", where the "-van" has an "a" like you make when you lower your tired aching body into a bubbly hot tub, and the "-tace" rhymes with "face". Plus, roll the "r". There, all is well.
EXCELLENT video! My next stop will be your presentation of Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony. That should be yummy. :-)
I’m wondering if our friend didn’t get lost in professional analysis of the musical structure. To me, this great musical piece sounds like the dialog between the great American natural expanse and the thriving dynamism of American industry that was expanding at the time. I think Dvorak captured the gist of the American spirit of the 1890s pretty well in that regard.
It would be more wonderful if you can demonstrate the score sections along with the commentary:)
Talk about Beethoven's Trio Op.97 "Archduke"
Dvořák straight up predicted Rap music.
Check out Ludacris' "Coming 2 America" -- you might recognize something from Dvorak. 🙂
Whenever I listen to the New World Symphony I feel a need to push my bicycle up a very steep hill and stick big knives into my piano's keyboard.
So, you don’t like it?? 🤔
I personally feel like the Solti 1983 CSO recording is the best for this Symphony. Sorry Kubelik, Bernstein, and Karajan.
Can somebody send the Spotify link? 🤔
Jazz, blues and pop (noise). The American voices of music.
Can't go wrong with the two Ks - Kubelik and Kertesz.
Wonderful Podcast, but Dvorak spent the summer of 1893 in Spillville, Iowa while his ninth, at the time numbered his fifth, was not performed until December. Whilst in the northeastern region of Iowa, it is certainly plausible that he met members of the sioux of Illini tribes.
14:30 It wasn't Bernstein's doctoral thesis. It was an undergraduate thesis 'The Absorption of Race Elements into American Music' Bernstein, L., 1939, Harvard, MS.
Nice Dvořák. Better then Dvořáks of some people who actually learnt czech.
What about Celibidache's conducting ?
No mention of Hiawatha?
My personal favorite is Dudamel
Well i have to disagree a bit. He didnt wanted to go to america in fact he disliked New York. (As you can see in his letters send back home) He was paid an enormous Sum to come over and he had the order even if it wasnt offical to create an American Style of classical music.
As much as I love this Symphony, I do prefer his 8th Symphony.
That's an amazing piece! The first movement is incredible
15:10 is when the analysis start.
Que curioso suena el acento británico
My mans predicted Jazz
i really like these videos, but they take a little bit of the fun away from listening to sth for the first time. theyre perfect as follow up to better understand the piece before listening to it for the second time, though.
but what id really like is videos about types of classical music. for example guides to impressionism, summing up the most relevant historical and musical themes. stuff like who influenced who and which composers knew each other personally, and how that may be reflected in the music.
or videos about the instruments. or diving deep into how to read a score. like what phrases are important and how themes get developed. you already made a few videos that are similar to this, but never really went above what is necessary to know.
id love to know more about all the sounds each instrument can produce, what styles are easy and which are difficult for them, how composers and conductors work with these strengths and around the weaknesses...
since no video specifically about a certain piece of music will ever come close to experiencing it live, id love more content that teaches a broader range of topics.
that comment turned out long ^^
keep it up either way though!! your videos are more motivating than my further music teacher ever got.
These are some great ideas - particularly the styles/historical periods idea - I think that would make for some really good videos! The problem is at the moment I have a Masters degree which eats up a lot of time, 7 days a week. These podcasts are so I can keep putting out content which doesn't take as long as a full blown video. You're right though - I don't mean to over-analyse/over-describe a piece, it's a hard balance to strike of when to stop, while giving some decent and pertinent detail for those who aren't quite so experienced listeners.
He didn't move to America. He didn't contemplate all of the continent. He went to the US.
This is excellent but why didn't you list the modulations in the development of the 1st movement, too many presenters do not give enough information on chords and modulations and the listener, in turn, will never understand the composition. What your doing is excellent but give more info on chords and modulation. Don't underestimate your listeners.
This story proves it: life is WEIRD! 😂