Honestly listening to this song during the quarantine being a seventeen-year-old stuck from "real" high school experiences makes me contemplate the song in the context of two really pissed off seniors trying to go to prom and trying to enjoy the last year of their childhood.
One of my favorite musical songs. It's so real, and honest about the teenage psyche, giving it a raw feel. Veronica accepts that she's acting like a cliche dramatic, angsty teenager. And she just wants to be normal.
I agree - although it's not TOO cliche, especially considering the fact that she helps her psychotic and emotional boyfriend in murdering people and staging it as suicide.
Did anyone else notice that one of the activities JD mentions is poker. The point of poker is lying/bluffing and manipulating people's thoughts, which JD is doing here in order to keep or build up Veronica's trust again. Or am I just over analyzing it? Edit: Wow hey everyone! Never expected people to respond! I apologize for the stupid "the only activity" part that was... embarrassing. I'm glad that some of you thought this was cool too! I'm the type of person to look and listen to every part of a song/movie, etc. because I like to find hints, clues, Easter eggs, references and lots of fun things that people miss. Sure I'm that annoying person who will talk all day about things in the background but maybe that's good as not everyone has or wants too! :)
*Omigod* you’re right! 😰 That actually makes sense and i dont think ur over analyzing, maybe the creator(s) of the song did a little subtle thing there
I think this song really proves my theories on their relationships. Veronica just wants to help the underdog and to a slight degree she just wants to be loved because she doesn't get that with the Heathers, but this is literally all JD wants. There's never been anyone in his life who cares about him, so when this girl shows up he becomes fixated on her. Whereas Veronica may actually love him, JD is more fixated on her and the idea of someone actually caring about him
+Edwin Vel but I think he tried to kill her because he didn't want her to leave him. He's sacred that she'll leave him so if he kills her then himself then they would always be together.
Sophia Nicholas exactly! plus, he clearly realized after he saw her hanging that's not what he wanted. I think at first he wanted to kill her, then himself, but once he saw her 'dead' he realized that that's not what he wanted at all, that he wanted her to live. :(
I always get chills at the first seventeen at 0:29. I just love the note held there for some reason. The way Veronica sings it, she sounds so sad yet hopeful, almost like a cry for help.
listened to this soundtrack when I was 13, wanting to be 17 so badly. I came back to this song four years later, and I’m 17 now. I wish I could keep my youth just a little longer cause Veronica was right, it’s all I wanna do.
This is officially the first song I've heard as a seventeen year old. I opened up a browser and blasted this at midnight, and decided to come back and share this fact. I am pleased.
The saddest line in this song is "if we still have the right." Because Veronica believed that she didn't deserve to be a proper teen because of all they had done. Same with JD
does anyone else tear up the first time she says "cant we be seventeen?" for some reason it is so emotional to me maybe because high school was difficult for me and you can feel that all she wants is to love someone and be loved but it's not turning out the way she'd like it too...basically high school is summed up in a line... no matter how hard we try those years are lost between wanting to grow up and just stay a kid with no worries.
Elizabeth Minott this makes me emotional because it seems like all of my friends get positive treatment from guys, but I'm stuck in a loop of bad guy luck, like I want to be like a normal teenager with a boyfriend but I feel like I'm not worthy for anyone to treat me like I'm seventeen
I love how this song starts with saying that being damaged doesn't make you a better person. Mental health issues are romanticized so much nowadays, and you see quotes everywhere about how "the hurt one's are the kindest" or "I only ever care for others, never for myself" or "if you have depression, that makes you one of the strongest and kindest people" or "selfharming people are angels who want to return to heaven", and while some of these might come close to reality, it's actually not often the case. Damaged people often end up being toxic, and very exhausting, sometimes very self centered, or think that just because they have, for example, depression, means all their behavior is excused. That's a thing I love about this musical. J.D. was damaged, and he was psychotic, and if you think that what he did was a good thing, and you "wish you could do that too", that's mostly you being either edgy (most likely) or stupid or really fucked up. Same goes with the others in this musical: Heather Chandler was a mean, horrible person, and Me Inside Of Me is a wonderful example of how you can literally make anyone seem good (that's also what the Musical does with JD, ironically), if you just manipulate enough. She, Ram and Kurt, as well as JD and Veronica, and the other two Heathers did some really horrible stuff, but Veronica and JD managed easily to make it out to be very tragic and overly three-dimensional, to a fake extent.
Sorry, but you’re almost entirely wrong lol. First off, you’re wrong about the first part. And second of all, mental health is not romanticised for the most part at all. The only romanticised mental illnesses are depression and anxiety, and that’s because they’re the most palatable. Plenty of other mentally ill people are demonised beyond belief; our society is still rife with ableism.
This musical adds so much dimension to their relationship. In the movie it was kind of like they were bound to each other because they slept with each other, but here you can tell they never want to leave each other and would do anything for the other one.
It's not really about depth, it's just that in the movie he was displayed as a psychopath and psychopaths can't really feel empathy, just because they didn't romanticize the extremely toxic relationship doesn't mean that it's bad or less than the musical. I'm actually astonished that people ship it wether it's the movie or the musical
2:01 the "tonight" is on a major 7th which is one of the most if not THE most (probably with the only exception of a tritone) dissonant-sounding interval and yet its the most melodious thing i've heard in my life
Same. You got this tho! If you practice i’ll bet you can hit it. Im able to hit it now after practicing a bit. I have to find a private area or be home alone to be able to practice it without embarrassing myself 😂
Practice higher notes. I'm an alto and I used to be only able to sing up to C5 without straining (ik that's low for a lot of other females) but now I can get up to A5 before strain
i love how when j.d says "or they vanish" it has two different meanings. the way veronica saw it she thinks they he means how they disappear from their lives, like j.d's mom. but i think that j.d meant they die because right before his says that veronica sings "people hurt us" and when heather, kurt and ram hurt veronica, j.d kills the three because he loves her. just a theory.
Listen closely to when Veronica says, "I'll stay if I'm what you choose." There is a certain dark-like drop on the beat. It happens to J.D. after they have killed Kurt and Ram when he says "Our love is god." Both beats happen to represent the control they have at that moment. J.D. over Veronica in "Our Love is God" as they have just killed again. In this song as it claims that Veronica has new control over J.D. stating that if he kills again with her, she will end the whole thing. Clever musical.
laura sinclair Noice icon Sorry I just wanted to point out that I have a really unhealthy obsession with musicals because of Hamilton Okay now I'm just having a conversation with myself This is why I don't have friends Okay nice talking to you BOOOOOIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!
i think it's strange how at the end, veronica says "if i am what you choose" and jd doesn't answer, simply repeats "can't we be seventeen". she asks again, he repeats "if we've still got the right." he only says he chooses veronica after she says she chooses him. he hesitated.
I like to think that at the end of the song where JD is saying, "can't we be seventeen" and "if we still got the right" that it's him replaying what Veronica has said to him. He's thinking about his decision, but when he says "you're the one I choose" it sounds rushed. It's like he doesn't know what he's agreeing with. He's saying yes because he just wants to be with Veronica. He's not really thinking about what she's asking of him. That she wants him to be normal, she wants them to be normal.
Professor Wright I love your interpretation of it, I totally hear it, she is repeating it as if she's trying to get a response then she changes to tell him that he's who she chooses even if he doesn't choose her and it's so emotional and beautiful I love it
"Maybe prom night-" "Let's make sure they never see their senior prom-" Okay JD. Alright. Fun fact: Veronica and JD never went to prom together. EDIT: How are people still thinking this comment is good tf- Also thanks ig this song hit me in the feels again lmao-
kinda upsets me that he kept his promise to kill the whole student body better than his prom promise is setting up bombs AND getting away with it actually easier..?
Every time I listen to that song it's that last bit that makes me think so deeply. Veronica repeatedly singing "If I am what you choose" before JD finally replies at the end just makes me realise that JD was still hesitant about choosing Veronica and that hesitance built up until he decided to kill again.
you just gotta have a good control over your breathing, i can hold most, if not all of them with ease (im not trying to 'flex' btw, just saying that if you practice you could do it too)
I turn 18 in 3 days. I lost my whole senior year (musical, prom, graduation) and continue to come back to this song. I am terrified, and would pay any amount of money to stay 17 for one more year. Please, wish me luck. Life hasn't been easy on me lately and I'm sure it doesn't get much better from here.
@@maxeyre2024 Been through some heartbreak and tough times still, but things have actually been getting better recently. I've been singing at a few local restaurants and bars making enough to live comfortably at the moment. I also have an album out on all platforms called "Love and Loss" by Max Valentino. I'm a Sinatra/Opera singer. But yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at at the moment. Just trying to find my big break and climb the ladder to success. Thanks for asking, my friend.
Nobody: JD: Chili fries I thought you said children dies! edit: okay so i was like 15 and very sleep deprived when i wrote this. thanks for all the likes!! i know it’s got the minion meme vibes and please do make fun of it baha, this comment has been the literal bane of my existence.
Playing Veronica is so much fun! I played her in a production of Heathers near me. 462 people auditioned for her but they picked me... I felt so privileged. I think this was my favourite song
2:43 is absolutely heartbreaking for me I have no idea why, like it just has a really vulnerable tone to it, almost childlike. Seriously need to see this musical, shame I live in the UK hahah
+Meghan-Rose McKee Yes! The little change in the music there is what really nails it....like clinging to some hopeless longing, a last bit of optimism that is completely in vain...it's so fucking sad. :'(
Normal relationship drama in movies/musicals: are you cheating on me!?? How could you do this to me! Heathers: why can't we just be normal teens and not murder people!?!
I like to think that at the end of the song where JD is saying, "can't we be seventeen" and "if we still got the right" that it's him replaying what Veronica has said to him. He's thinking about his decision and when he says, "you're the one I choose" it sounds rushed because he's just trying to keep the only good thing in his life with him. He can't comprehend what he's hearing, but if agreeing will keep Veronica with him, he'll do it. I don't that's just what I think, haha...
I feel like JD's singing along and not just listening to Veronica because he wants that. He really wants that life with her, and he's trying to convince the voices in his head to just be normal, and to chose her. Idk I'm procrastinating chores.
This song always gets me. The line "can't we be seventeen" really hits home because that's when my life really started to fall apart. I wasn't really able to have a normal highschool life, couldn't even think of college until years to come. The relationship between Veronica and JD is very similar to one I was having at the time. This whole song just continually makes me cry every time I hear it.
Hula Giraffe what new movie? It's old, and it gives reason why he did it. He's a sociopath who thinks that killing bad people will make life better, and he's trying to compensate for the pain he feels about his mom's suicide
i honestly interpret this song as veronica as trying to love JD and attempt to convince him to stop being psychotic. While it may seem that JD is agreeing with her in this song, its quite clear that JD is copying what she says. JD isnt in love with Veronica, as we know, just the idea that someone loves him so he pursues her for that. JD copying the lines Veronica says shows that he's not actually agreeing with what she says or even listening, just repeating it as she says it so it sounds like he's all for "being normal"
Fera That’s really smart, but I think he’s copying just for the sake of being normal and not because he doesn’t love her. In the musical, I feel that he definitely loves Veronica. There were definitely sacrifices made for her. In the movie, on the other hand, he doesn’t. He stated it himself in the film. That’s definitely a difference between the play and movie. In the play, he loves her but has an abusive view on what love is. He does it the only way he knows how.
In the movie JD didn't love Veronica, but in the musical he did. In this song, I think he wasn't just copying what she was saying, he was...trying to be normal, I guess. But he was "too damaged" to love her in a normal way.
Fera JD was in love with Veronica, he just didn’t know how to maintain a proper relationship. He loved her but didn’t have the mental capacity to understand that what he was doing was wrong and hurting her, so he just continued to kill because he had no other way of living.
Now this is a Toxic Relationship! Regardless of how bad this guy is Veronica not obligated to FIX him. This is an amazing representation of this because just like the characters you want this relationship to work out but, deep down we know it Cannot.
As soon as Riverdale said they would do a Heathers episode, I knew all the comments would be “cAmE fRoM RiVeRdALe” and it really makes me upset that this is what has happened to such a great musical
I guess you’re right, but look at it this way: if it wasn’t for all the ppl coming from Riverdale, not as many ppl would know and enjoy heathers and it wouldn’t have gotten all the appreciation that it deserves.
@@IAmAPo3t My grandfather was a fire and brimstone preacher But there are things that the homilies and hymes won't teach ya My mother was a genius My father commanded respect And when they died they left no instructions, just a legacy to protect
Veronica: can you stop killing ppl and be 17 with me?
JD: ｐｅｒｈａｐｓ
JD: perhaps..
Me: no. I can't. It's a hobby. Sorry, I'm going to go try and blow up the school and then end up blowing myself up. So fun!!
*When they first met*
JD:Greetings And Salutations.
*before he died*
JD:OUR LOVE IS GOD
@@maddieteachey2936 0-100 *real* quick
Lol
@@maeffected actually he explodes (I'm not sorry)
Veronica: "Can't we be seventeen"
JD: That's cool and all, but did you know, *we live in a society?*
Not unless we get JD back
IM DYINGGF😭😭😭😭😭
(just like JD haha)
@@annamariewaithira Oh no, he's not dying. He's dead. : )
i hate and i love you guys 😭😭
That kinda rhymes in a way. " Can't we be seveteennn? We live in a societyyyyy. " I can hear it lol.
Veronica: "Then you're right, it really *blows."*
J.D.: _IDEA_
*lightbulb*
Bwhahahaha
I CACKLED
*SECRET ROUTE UNLOCKED*
And I-oop-
Veronica: Let's just be be seventeen
J.D.: Let me kill seven teens
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂💖
YES
P E R F E C T I O N
Veronica: we’ll bake brownies
Me: we all remember how great it turned out when you and JD were left alone in the kitchen
HAHAHA
Well he did bring up a good point that life indeed does suck
Well Heather died and "Life Sucks" happened
*yay*
Well... To be fair, it did end her hangover
WELL F*CK ME GENTLY WITH A CHAINSAW
J.D.: "jokes on you, I'm 18."
hannah askar easy, change high schools 3 times for 3 years, and once in senior year and some people graduate at 18 ya know
@@ilysm._2416 6 schools in 6 years and then some
@@hannahyt8313 get held back repeatedly, lol
Veronica: *gasps* now I'm seriously damaged
that gives dead girl walking some weight.
Wow, what a sweet little end to this musical. :)
*_What do you mean this is the halfway point_*
If only
_rips off Act 2 part of script_
What? What are you talking about?
we arnt even at meant to be yours yet.
if o n l y . the ending makes me sooooob
Yeah pretty much
Honestly listening to this song during the quarantine being a seventeen-year-old stuck from "real" high school experiences makes me contemplate the song in the context of two really pissed off seniors trying to go to prom and trying to enjoy the last year of their childhood.
oh damn. This just hit me out of nowhere
Right 😭
I wasn’t crying until I read this comment
Now i'm crying. it's not fair :(((
Damn... Me too. Anyone else hating the 1 year anniversary of lockdown from last Friday?
One of my favorite musical songs. It's so real, and honest about the teenage psyche, giving it a raw feel. Veronica accepts that she's acting like a cliche dramatic, angsty teenager. And she just wants to be normal.
NO
I agreee
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I agree - although it's not TOO cliche, especially considering the fact that she helps her psychotic and emotional boyfriend in murdering people and staging it as suicide.
Veronica- it really blows..
JD-hey completely unrelated to what you just said but....
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jd; " files that in the back of his brain for reasons.'
im d o n e...
I just snorted so hard. I was sewing and was holding a needle IN MY MOUTH, so it kinda hurt.
th-cam.com/video/hY9t87c_oRc/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwW-O8iM2NO6n3lcHZ4AaABAg Seventeen karaoke
Teenage girl attempts to convince her pychotic boyfriend to literally not kill everyone: the musical
LMAO YES
CORA CARSON the movie came out in 1989 it ain’t their fault you’re like 30 years late to the party
@@IntrovertedPrincess and when did you see the movie
Heathers in a comment
@@jessywessy5196 the movie is in youtube. Search 'heathers movie' and voila!
Did anyone else notice that one of the activities JD mentions is poker. The point of poker is lying/bluffing and manipulating people's thoughts, which JD is doing here in order to keep or build up Veronica's trust again. Or am I just over analyzing it?
Edit: Wow hey everyone! Never expected people to respond! I apologize for the stupid "the only activity" part that was... embarrassing. I'm glad that some of you thought this was cool too! I'm the type of person to look and listen to every part of a song/movie, etc. because I like to find hints, clues, Easter eggs, references and lots of fun things that people miss. Sure I'm that annoying person who will talk all day about things in the background but maybe that's good as not everyone has or wants too! :)
Oh no
o h n o e s
*Omigod* you’re right! 😰
That actually makes sense and i dont think ur over analyzing, maybe the creator(s) of the song did a little subtle thing there
I think your over analyzing but it seems cool
Honestly I don't think your over analyzing since they added the "I lied" thing with the double kill of Kurt Ram with the bullet.
"Hey babe I was thinking wanna sneak a beer and watch a movie?"
"Really cause I was thinking we could go fake some suicides.."
"Well? That doesn't mean we can't do it again."
M 👏 O 👏 O 👏 D
JD: fine...
so long as we get to fake our schools suicide with my bomb next.
" we only done it twice rememnber all good thing comes in threes.'
that’s it that’s the plot
I think this song really proves my theories on their relationships. Veronica just wants to help the underdog and to a slight degree she just wants to be loved because she doesn't get that with the Heathers, but this is literally all JD wants. There's never been anyone in his life who cares about him, so when this girl shows up he becomes fixated on her. Whereas Veronica may actually love him, JD is more fixated on her and the idea of someone actually caring about him
+HeyyFaye yo hes very clearly in love with her. its not a healthy love and its definitely too obsessive, but hes very clearly in love with HER.
I agree that he's more in love with the idea of her. Or else he wouldn't have tried to kill her.
+Edwin Vel but I think he tried to kill her because he didn't want her to leave him. He's sacred that she'll leave him so if he kills her then himself then they would always be together.
Sophia Nicholas exactly! plus, he clearly realized after he saw her hanging that's not what he wanted. I think at first he wanted to kill her, then himself, but once he saw her 'dead' he realized that that's not what he wanted at all, that he wanted her to live. :(
+Marlana Sugar then when he realized that she didn't love him the way he loved her he was so angry he felt like he had to kill her
Possibly unpopular opinion:
This is the best song in Heathers
I agree
This one + freeze your brain 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Dead girl walking is my favorite, but yeah!
Facts
100% agree
seventeen - “even closer”
i am damaged - “little further”
:,)
ok who gave u the right
no
AAAAAAAAH
Why you gotta do this?! TgT
*Wait, **_no_*
I always get chills at the first seventeen at 0:29. I just love the note held there for some reason. The way Veronica sings it, she sounds so sad yet hopeful, almost like a cry for help.
+Amanda Lopez me too
So true! I get chills every time!
Amanda Lopez I get chills at “Don’t you want a life with me?”
Same
"Veronica: We dont choose who lives or dies..."
**Hamilton's ghost appears next to Chandler's**
Hamilton: "who tells our story"
Lyra Lavatera hahaha yes!
please no
Yes Hamilton Fan
@@mayazucchini7991 please yes
Why you gotta hit me in the feels like that! XD
listened to this soundtrack when I was 13, wanting to be 17 so badly. I came back to this song four years later, and I’m 17 now. I wish I could keep my youth just a little longer cause Veronica was right, it’s all I wanna do.
For real
Damn. How are you doing now? I’m finding other people who were around 17 during quarantine and it’s kinda fucked just how many of us there are lol
Same. I remember watching the movie when I was 14 then listening to this song and dead girl walking at 15.
SO REAL😭😭😭😭
This is officially the first song I've heard as a seventeen year old. I opened up a browser and blasted this at midnight, and decided to come back and share this fact. I am pleased.
I know it's late, but Happy Birthday!
I turn seventeen in three months and now that you gave me this idea I just might do it
Vincent Lawrence DIDYOUDOIT
Hahahaha Phloxxi today is my birthday, you had perfect timing. Aaannnd I've decided to play dancing queen instead... sorry guys xD
Vincent Lawrence I literally set a reminder on my calender to come back and check after 3 months was up. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
The saddest line in this song is "if we still have the right." Because Veronica believed that she didn't deserve to be a proper teen because of all they had done. Same with JD
does anyone else tear up the first time she says "cant we be seventeen?" for some reason it is so emotional to me maybe because high school was difficult for me and you can feel that all she wants is to love someone and be loved but it's not turning out the way she'd like it too...basically high school is summed up in a line... no matter how hard we try those years are lost between wanting to grow up and just stay a kid with no worries.
Yes!!!!
Elizabeth Minott exactly I couldn't have worded it better
Elizabeth Minott I'm in freshmen year and I cried like UGHHHHH MY HEART
Omg I'm coming back to this comment years later and I can't believe how many likes it's gotten... and this song is still emotional to me!
Elizabeth Minott this makes me emotional because it seems like all of my friends get positive treatment from guys, but I'm stuck in a loop of bad guy luck, like I want to be like a normal teenager with a boyfriend but I feel like I'm not worthy for anyone to treat me like I'm seventeen
0:55 the forshadowing in this is absolutely genius
💀
@@bdyvynls that emoji has never been more appropriate
@@Bliss-b7d💀💀💀FOUL
@@Bliss-b7dstop true
God, the harmonizing between J.D. and Veronica is absolutely stunning. I literally can't get over the soundtrack of this play. I love it so much.
"And you're right it really *blows*" Oh hONEYY
I SNORTED
Elusive Grajales OH NOOO
And the thing is he was referring to his mom before this, his mom, who blew up.
milysa98 Like mother, like son
TheDangerWolf O M G
"We just sang a whole song about how you're NOT going to kill people anymore!"
Lmao illegal heathers
alot of musicals have a song about not killing anymore. they then kill anyways leading to their downfall.
Sacha Bernardus OH MY GOODNESS HAHAHA I REMEMBER WHERE THAT’S FROM 😂
Illegal Heather's remember that
It was actually a good improvise.
I love how this song starts with saying that being damaged doesn't make you a better person.
Mental health issues are romanticized so much nowadays, and you see quotes everywhere about how "the hurt one's are the kindest" or "I only ever care for others, never for myself" or "if you have depression, that makes you one of the strongest and kindest people" or "selfharming people are angels who want to return to heaven", and while some of these might come close to reality, it's actually not often the case.
Damaged people often end up being toxic, and very exhausting, sometimes very self centered, or think that just because they have, for example, depression, means all their behavior is excused.
That's a thing I love about this musical.
J.D. was damaged, and he was psychotic, and if you think that what he did was a good thing, and you "wish you could do that too", that's mostly you being either edgy (most likely) or stupid or really fucked up.
Same goes with the others in this musical: Heather Chandler was a mean, horrible person, and Me Inside Of Me is a wonderful example of how you can literally make anyone seem good (that's also what the Musical does with JD, ironically), if you just manipulate enough.
She, Ram and Kurt, as well as JD and Veronica, and the other two Heathers did some really horrible stuff, but Veronica and JD managed easily to make it out to be very tragic and overly three-dimensional, to a fake extent.
please don';t take away some of the few things we have in this society
Sorry, but you’re almost entirely wrong lol. First off, you’re wrong about the first part. And second of all, mental health is not romanticised for the most part at all. The only romanticised mental illnesses are depression and anxiety, and that’s because they’re the most palatable. Plenty of other mentally ill people are demonised beyond belief; our society is still rife with ableism.
@@tansyuduri What do you mean?
@@tansyuduri what
nomiconita you're stupid lol
This musical is actually really cute if you ignore all the murder and stuff
Hahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahah
no
If you ignore the entire plot
Take out the Ignore the entire plot and you just have a typical girl getting with the dark mysterious boy. It does sound cute !!!
@@braelynm.5131 GARLIC BREAD
Veronica: Can we be 17
JD: You said kill 17 people?
Veronica; "no jd"
JD: " your right that's to big of a body count for one person.........:)"
Shout out to Veronica for not being a soprano. My vocal chords appreciate it
Me too sis
Is she an alto? No, she probably isn’t
@@jenna8091 I think she's a Mezzo
Sam Thanks :)
Mine don't :()
_"And you're right. It really blows."_
I- uh..great choice of words, Sawyer.
"Or they vanish"
*Duolingo memes flashbacks*
spanish or vanish
Beg for your life in Spanish
sOmEoNe HaSn'T bEeN pRaCtIcInG tHeIr SpAnIsH
*you know what happens now*
spanish or vanish
Veronica: Can't we be 17?
JD: Okay
Also JD: SIKE *dabs and pulls out gun*
JD: 17...
SIKE! DAS DA WRONG NUMBAH!
JD:*dabs*
*School blows up*
JD: lmao **almost bombs the actual school**
Imagining J. D. dabbing.
Loving it.
Thank you for this mental image of sheer awesome.
And with a gun in his hand.
Weird. But awesome.
Veronica: can’t we be 17
JD on the outside: of course!
JD on the inside: lol, no one tell her my birthday was a week ago.
This musical adds so much dimension to their relationship. In the movie it was kind of like they were bound to each other because they slept with each other, but here you can tell they never want to leave each other and would do anything for the other one.
...movie...? I just joined the heathers fandom. Where can I watch this... movie?
Dokenime you can find it on Netflix but I have also seen it somewhere on youtube.
Well, I mean JD has more of a psychotic fixation on Veronica. But you're right.
The musical tried to flesh out the relationship more which I'm not sure is good or bad, imo.
It's not really about depth, it's just that in the movie he was displayed as a psychopath and psychopaths can't really feel empathy, just because they didn't romanticize the extremely toxic relationship doesn't mean that it's bad or less than the musical. I'm actually astonished that people ship it wether it's the movie or the musical
2:01 the "tonight" is on a major 7th which is one of the most if not THE most (probably with the only exception of a tritone) dissonant-sounding interval and yet its the most melodious thing i've heard in my life
Got that ✨spice✨
what
J.D. sings the major 7th and on top of that, Veronica sings B, which is the tritone of the bottom note of the chord F. So basically Fmaj7-5. Lovely!
damn veronicas so persuasive like im not even 17 years old but im sittin here wanting to be 17 with her
I knowwww
same
Char same bitch same. I'mma go buy some summer clothes, go camping, and play poker.
sAME
Same I'm like "god dammit veronica is like 6 years older than me"
AND THEN THE MUSICAL ENDED THERE
GOD DAMN IF ONLY THAT WERE TRUE
I wish
Ahhh i wish
With three teenagers dead.
Haha no
I always tear up at Barrett's first "Don't you want a life with me?" Ugh, feels.
i cry at the ending when it slows down im so emotional what the hell why
+Nicole Winchester My eyes always water as soon as she finishes the first "seventeen", her voice is just so amazing. Pretty close to perfect I'd say.
cassiskindacool we all cry
Me: I think I can sing this now-
Song: TONIIIIIIIIIIGHT
Me: Well, shit.
me rn
Same. You got this tho! If you practice i’ll bet you can hit it. Im able to hit it now after practicing a bit. I have to find a private area or be home alone to be able to practice it without embarrassing myself 😂
as someone who has a lower voice, just sing JD's part its lower than Veronica's
Practice higher notes. I'm an alto and I used to be only able to sing up to C5 without straining (ik that's low for a lot of other females) but now I can get up to A5 before strain
It’s easy kinda
i love how when j.d says "or they vanish" it has two different meanings. the way veronica saw it she thinks they he means how they disappear from their lives, like j.d's mom. but i think that j.d meant they die because right before his says that veronica sings "people hurt us" and when heather, kurt and ram hurt veronica, j.d kills the three because he loves her. just a theory.
oh my god
Samara and once I disappear
that’s what I thought lol I didn’t even consider it was about people actually leaving
no one deserves to be forgotten, no one desERVES TO FADE AWAY-
*MAY I JUST SAY* oh my gawd
VERONICA: Don't stop looking in my eyes
JD: Your eyes
When we said our goodbyes
bless you
rent
MY EXACT THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD THAT
Zach DePaolo FINALLY A COMMENT NOT REFRENCING HAMILTON
Zach DePaolo AAAAAAaaaaAAAAA
veronica: don't you want a life with me?
JD: well yes but actually no
yesn't
yuh nuh
Veronica: Can we be seventeen?
J.D: Jokes on you, i'm eighteen
@Sydney Prager well, yeah, there's a lot of this comment in every social media app
Fine, we're damaged
Really damaged
*THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE*
Omg this is the best comment I've ever seen
Nothing flex tape can’t fix
What's your damage Heather!?
Flex tape is lord and savior
Destruction 100
Listen closely to when Veronica says, "I'll stay if I'm what you choose." There is a certain dark-like drop on the beat. It happens to J.D. after they have killed Kurt and Ram when he says "Our love is god." Both beats happen to represent the control they have at that moment. J.D. over Veronica in "Our Love is God" as they have just killed again. In this song as it claims that Veronica has new control over J.D. stating that if he kills again with her, she will end the whole thing. Clever musical.
And then he tries to blow up the whole school.
BAHAHAHHA YOU JUST MADE MY DAY
whats this say im blind
CityBoy boom. Twisted musical logic
Ayyyy I'm the 300th like-
"and you're right, it really blows"
stop giving him ide----
nevermind it's too late
god dammit veronica
Nice XD
sanji damn what if you look at it a different way and it could all be Veronicas fault
My friend said to me that Barret Wilbert Weed’s singing was trash.
She regretted saying that.
Did yu kill her
#mikulover SHHHHH! you’ll blow my cover ;)
The Crazy World of Amy! Sorry!!!
One One yeah but I don’t want anyone knowing ;)
@@mikulover9452 correction: they CORRECTED her.
"We don't choose who lives or dies"
*flinches*
same I had to stop the music and listen to Hamilton
DrawMachine030 _OR WHO TELL YOUR STORY_
WHO TELLS YOUR STPORYY
I LITERALLY GASPED FOR A MINUTE AND WAS LIKE. "AH. NO. NOT THAT SONG. NOPE. THIS IS HEATHERS, NOT HAMILTON. "
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I WISH I'D KNOWN
I love how Veronica talks. It's so..... Teenager-y
Megan Hankins same
HER VOICE GIVES ME LIFE
Megan Hankins it really sound like winona ryder
ikr. i could never put it in words but teenager-y is the best I could do 😂
Emmily Cipriana Barrett Wilbert Weed
me: im fine
me: *listens to the last harmony*
me, crying: im fine
laura sinclair
Noice icon
Sorry I just wanted to point out that I have a really unhealthy obsession with musicals because of Hamilton
Okay now I'm just having a conversation with myself
This is why I don't have friends
Okay nice talking to you BOOOOOIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!
ME ME
BIG BOI
Ella Neeley Bad day?
laura sinclair 800th like!!!!!
Ella Neeley 😂😂OMG WHO DID THIS😂😂
i think it's strange how at the end, veronica says "if i am what you choose" and jd doesn't answer, simply repeats "can't we be seventeen". she asks again, he repeats "if we've still got the right." he only says he chooses veronica after she says she chooses him. he hesitated.
I like to think that at the end of the song where JD is saying, "can't we be seventeen" and "if we still got the right" that it's him replaying what Veronica has said to him. He's thinking about his decision, but when he says "you're the one I choose" it sounds rushed. It's like he doesn't know what he's agreeing with. He's saying yes because he just wants to be with Veronica. He's not really thinking about what she's asking of him. That she wants him to be normal, she wants them to be normal.
I like to think that Veronica's repetition "If I am what you choose" is due to her wanting a response and JD is avoiding it
Professor Wright I love your interpretation of it, I totally hear it, she is repeating it as if she's trying to get a response then she changes to tell him that he's who she chooses even if he doesn't choose her and it's so emotional and beautiful I love it
my fucking heart
"Maybe prom night-"
"Let's make sure they never see their senior prom-"
Okay JD. Alright.
Fun fact: Veronica and JD never went to prom together.
EDIT: How are people still thinking this comment is good tf-
Also thanks ig this song hit me in the feels again lmao-
Melodie Yang wOw, I TOTALLY didn’t know this mind blowing fact!
Well yeah, Jason did blow up westerberg after all!
kinda upsets me that he kept his promise to kill the whole student body better than his prom promise
is setting up bombs AND getting away with it actually easier..?
Melodie Yang My favorite Endgame spoiler
Melodie Yang i year Jd blew her off. Get it
Veronica: People hurt us
JD: Or they vanish
Veronica: And you're right, it really blows
JD's mom:lol fr tho
Oh jesus... Like mother like son
I laughed too hard at this
NOW YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!!!
@@alannah784 outta pocket😭 💀
@@xxrhxysxx way outta pocket...what do they gain from that
Veronica: People hurt us
JD: Or they vanish
Veronica: And you’re right, it really *blows*
Me: *INTENSE BREATHING*
JD's mom: Brrrrrrr
Every time I listen to that song it's that last bit that makes me think so deeply. Veronica repeatedly singing "If I am what you choose" before JD finally replies at the end just makes me realise that JD was still hesitant about choosing Veronica and that hesitance built up until he decided to kill again.
jesus they can hold a note, like I can't even get halfway through some of those, and they do it flawlessly
you just gotta have a good control over your breathing, i can hold most, if not all of them with ease (im not trying to 'flex' btw, just saying that if you practice you could do it too)
My new favorite musical right here
Ditto! :)
SAME
welcome to the club
NO
It's number 2. It's right after Grease. I love it.
I turn 18 in 3 days. I lost my whole senior year (musical, prom, graduation) and continue to come back to this song. I am terrified, and would pay any amount of money to stay 17 for one more year. Please, wish me luck. Life hasn't been easy on me lately and I'm sure it doesn't get much better from here.
That sounds horrible but I’m sure it will somehow get better! Happy early birthday
@@georgemills9854 Thank you
Any update you're willing to share? I'm 17 for about a month more but graduated this last spring...glad I got to have a basically normal senior year.
@@maxeyre2024 Been through some heartbreak and tough times still, but things have actually been getting better recently. I've been singing at a few local restaurants and bars making enough to live comfortably at the moment. I also have an album out on all platforms called "Love and Loss" by Max Valentino. I'm a Sinatra/Opera singer. But yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at at the moment. Just trying to find my big break and climb the ladder to success. Thanks for asking, my friend.
@@valentinoproductions1940 That’s really great to hear. My name is Max too, haha. Here’s to more success and fulfilment.
Nobody:
JD: Chili fries I thought you said children dies!
edit: okay so i was like 15 and very sleep deprived when i wrote this. thanks for all the likes!! i know it’s got the minion meme vibes and please do make fun of it baha, this comment has been the literal bane of my existence.
💀💀🤣😭😭😭
If that ain't accurate-
Hahahahaha😂
LMAO NOOO
*facebook minion meme vibes*
Veronica: Bruh it's either me or murder, choose oneJD: ...Veronica: ...JD: Can't I have both?Veronica: NO
XD
nO GODDAMMIT JD
JD: welp I have to have both to live soooo...
Veronica:?
*Jd blows up*
Add "JD: lmao fuck u lets blow up the school"
Veronica: NO"
and that's just act 2
and so he built a bomb.
My pleasure!
NO
Heathers Musical Lyrics thank you so much!
Heathers Musical Lyrics thank you your like the first channel I go to to listen to heather
Lol I just realized if we still have the right cuz they killed 3 people
@Heather Chandler hahahaha wtf
Veronica: "Dude could you stop killing peeps and be 17 with me or like-"
JD: "Maypaps... J U S T K I D D I N G. E V E R Y O N E D I E S"
Verónica: it really blows
J.D.: So will I
Aya The Weirdo Don't. Too. Soon.
;))))
*Too. Soon.*
Playing Veronica is so much fun! I played her in a production of Heathers near me. 462 people auditioned for her but they picked me... I felt so privileged. I think this was my favourite song
this is 3 years late, but omg this is amazing! congrats
2:43 is absolutely heartbreaking for me I have no idea why, like it just has a really vulnerable tone to it, almost childlike. Seriously need to see this musical, shame I live in the UK hahah
omg same that parts really tear jerking
+Meghan-Rose McKee
Yes! The little change in the music there is what really nails it....like clinging to some hopeless longing, a last bit of optimism that is completely in vain...it's so fucking sad. :'(
Meghan-Rose McKee I Live In The UK Too..!
I bet you’re looking back at this comment now and thinking “HAHAHA BET” bc they now have a production of “Heathers” in the U.K
It's playing in London I think
Normal relationship drama in movies/musicals: are you cheating on me!?? How could you do this to me!
Heathers: why can't we just be normal teens and not murder people!?!
V:Can’t we be 17?
J.D:*blows up school*
*JD Blows himself up
V: Really man? Hey Martha are you free tonight?
M: What
lol
"September 1 1989" (Beautiful)
"Go buy some summer clothes" (Seventeen)
I think it was almost summer when they killed Ram and Kurt but IDK.......
Rea Gelacio no because they are still in school for the rest of the musical it is not summer yet
This is Veronica trying to convince JD not to kill anyone else till summer because if he's in jail then he can't wear his new summer clothes
they're on sale!!!
time passes
I like to think that at the end of the song where JD is saying, "can't we be seventeen" and "if we still got the right" that it's him replaying what Veronica has said to him. He's thinking about his decision and when he says, "you're the one I choose" it sounds rushed because he's just trying to keep the only good thing in his life with him. He can't comprehend what he's hearing, but if agreeing will keep Veronica with him, he'll do it. I don't that's just what I think, haha...
That's exactly was I was thinking!
I feel like JD's singing along and not just listening to Veronica because he wants that. He really wants that life with her, and he's trying to convince the voices in his head to just be normal, and to chose her.
Idk I'm procrastinating chores.
Normal person: "aww what a sweet end"
Heathers fan: "hahah okay sure"
Yup Heathers fans aren't normal lol
Yup when you know you know
but wouldnt a normal person have also seen heathers if they searched up the lyrics to one of the songs?
More like riverdale fans
*Cries in BOOM*
This song always gets me. The line "can't we be seventeen" really hits home because that's when my life really started to fall apart. I wasn't really able to have a normal highschool life, couldn't even think of college until years to come. The relationship between Veronica and JD is very similar to one I was having at the time. This whole song just continually makes me cry every time I hear it.
What's gluten?
Why is this so true? Lol
Omg lol
Willy Wonka anyone?
I am Lizard tbh this radiates John Watson and Sherlock energy😂😂
Veronica:See THIS is why i left you
"and you're right it really blows"
Veronica no you're giving him ideas
my random flex is i was a heathers fan before the brainrot
same, but why is the singing in the brain rot one actually fire??? 😭
Same dawg
Same
samsies
@@Doritoo_gtagreal
I love how the musical actually gives JD more of a reason for his actions, and shows that, he's really just deeply damaged
Leo Senpai yeah, the new movie just makes him crazy and has no real reason that Veronica would stay with him and no reason why he's not in jail
Leo Senpai
Really damaged
Hula Giraffe what new movie? It's old, and it gives reason why he did it. He's a sociopath who thinks that killing bad people will make life better, and he's trying to compensate for the pain he feels about his mom's suicide
Awesomegurl 5450 Their was a new show that came out, it is awful.
Sponitz Vlogs that's right they remade heathers how is it
If somebody else says Riverdale is better I’m going to get the chainsaw
Go get the chainsaw
I AM UNKNOWN I already did
I’ll get the fake suicide notes ready
Emma . Yes thank you
Well, f me gently with a chainsaw
The thing about this musical is that a lot of teenage musical theater nerds can't do this musical and never will be able to.
Seasoned Skeptic yeah
Heathers 101.
yeah.we wish. im one of those.
Seasoned Skeptic I wanna do this so bad and it makes me tear up because it’s so relatable. She just wants to be loved and love. I want that too.
We did
Nobody:
Not even a single soul:
My phone: High Volume for long periods of time may damage your hearing
i honestly interpret this song as veronica as trying to love JD and attempt to convince him to stop being psychotic. While it may seem that JD is agreeing with her in this song, its quite clear that JD is copying what she says. JD isnt in love with Veronica, as we know, just the idea that someone loves him so he pursues her for that. JD copying the lines Veronica says shows that he's not actually agreeing with what she says or even listening, just repeating it as she says it so it sounds like he's all for "being normal"
@Aitchtick but he's not in love with her???
Fera That’s really smart, but I think he’s copying just for the sake of being normal and not because he doesn’t love her. In the musical, I feel that he definitely loves Veronica. There were definitely sacrifices made for her. In the movie, on the other hand, he doesn’t. He stated it himself in the film. That’s definitely a difference between the play and movie. In the play, he loves her but has an abusive view on what love is. He does it the only way he knows how.
In the movie JD didn't love Veronica, but in the musical he did. In this song, I think he wasn't just copying what she was saying, he was...trying to be normal, I guess. But he was "too damaged" to love her in a normal way.
I think he does love her but in a pretty toxic way. His idea of love is killing everyone who even dares hurt her in any way.
Fera JD was in love with Veronica, he just didn’t know how to maintain a proper relationship. He loved her but didn’t have the mental capacity to understand that what he was doing was wrong and hurting her, so he just continued to kill because he had no other way of living.
Veronica- We don't choose who lives or dies-
Me- OR WHO TELLS YOUR STORY
YES X3
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING
I PAUSED THE VIDEO AND SANG THE EXACT SAME THING!
Fire Bird YES.
I found my people
I just noticed the "even closer" "little further" parallels between this and I am damaged
OH MY GOD I AM DAMAGED
Oh my goodness-
Caramel Fraps
Far too damaged, but that does not make us wise-
Sorry I had to, but yes oh my gosh I just noticed that
May you explain a bit more? I get what you’re trying to say but I think I’m a little dense
My HeArT-
Veronica: if you keep killing people i wont date u
J.D: instructions unclear, blew up school with everyone inside
we don't choose who lives-
Me: WHO DIES WHO TELLS YOUR STORY
AH GAWD DANGIT
Remistarz LPS 😂
I KNOW THAT WE CAN WIN
Remistarz LPS WHO TELLS YOUR STORRRYYY
ELIZAAAAAAA
>:") *EVERY OTHER FOUNDING FATHER'S STORY GETS TOLD*
“We don’t choose who lives or dies...”
We don’t choose who tells our story either sweetie
Basically what Eliza said responding to her children 😂
😂😂😂
Safe to say I have an obsession with the this Musical... 😂
+Laura Smith Same.
I made a playlist of all the songs in order XD i just listen to it over and over
+Everose DoesStuff XD me too
samee
Laura Smith I know right! I'm listening to the whole soundtrack right now! It's so good!
Now this is a Toxic Relationship!
Regardless of how bad this guy is Veronica not obligated to FIX him.
This is an amazing representation of this because just like the characters you want this relationship to work out but, deep down we know it Cannot.
As soon as Riverdale said they would do a Heathers episode, I knew all the comments would be “cAmE fRoM RiVeRdALe” and it really makes me upset that this is what has happened to such a great musical
Same I always knew it’s really sad
i know, i love your pfp btw.
tea
I guess you’re right, but look at it this way: if it wasn’t for all the ppl coming from Riverdale, not as many ppl would know and enjoy heathers and it wouldn’t have gotten all the appreciation that it deserves.
i love ur username and pfp uwu
"It really blows."
Yeah, it does, doesn't it J.D.?
Oh shit
I thought the same thing XD
We don't get to pick who lives or dies
Me: Death dosen't discriminate between the sinners and the saints. It's takes, and it takes, and it takes.
AND WE KEEP LIVING ANYWAY
@@morenasoto5304 we laugh and we cry and we break and we make our mistakes 🙀
@@IAmAPo3t
My grandfather was a fire and brimstone preacher
But there are things that the homilies and hymes won't teach ya
My mother was a genius
My father commanded respect
And when they died they left no instructions, just a legacy to protect
@@angiebeaudoin9926 Death doesn't discriminate between the sinners and the saints, it takes and it takes and it takes
OMG WAIT FOR IT WAIT FOR IT
of course she wanna be seventeen. She wants to be a dancing queen
We don't choose who lives or dies (or tells our story)
+HoodieNinja777 OHMYGOD I THOUGHT THE SAME THING NOW IM CRYING
+HoodieNinja777
These two musicals are ACTUALLY my entire fucking life helppppppp why do i have to pick the sad ones
+HoodieNinja777 THIS HURTS ME
+HoodieNinja777 LMM admits that he wishes he wrote this song and i can't even deal
Dana Intern
WHAT??? WHERE???? AHHHHHHHHHH
the last note gives me chills every time
Me: for those who haven't seen the musical. *This. Is. The. End. Of. The. Musical. PERIODT.*
Also me:
*HA.HA.HA. Jokes on you.*
it's not heathers with out meant to be yours.
@@megamike15 dude what?
@@Choi-lu6wf meant to be yours is one of my favorite songs in the musical. it feels like something is missing with out it.
Yes, but also, him not having a mental breakdown would be nice.
I WISH IT WAS THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A HAPPY ENDING LOL
People who haven’t seen Heathers: Okay, so this must be the adorable ending every story has..
People who’ve actually watched Heathers: No ❤️
The "Don't stop looking in my eyes!" line really gets me
Veronica: Lets stop killing people
JD: Ok
Also JD: *yeets out a gun*
Veronica: *internally screaming*
i can tell this written 5 years ago
I wish I had someone to sing this song with augh I love it
Me too!
Kaniece Brady Magrath Guys hit me up I know both parts and have an instrumental worked out :)
+Mark Wickham consider yourself hit up I really want to do this duet style and learned the chords for piano
+Brady Magrath I'd love to duet! I haven't done one in forever!
I sing Veronica's part 👀 lets do it!
Can't wait to come back here when I'm seventeen. It'll be insane.
Hi seventeen year old self, how are things going? 🎅🫀
I was just watching Heather's and I remembered this comment. 💀 I'm 17 now. I thought this would be way cooler than it is
@@firstnamelastname3201 hii are you still 17?