How To Tram Your CNC Router without expensive tools Shapeoko

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  • @benwhite4927
    @benwhite4927 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doing this for a different brand CNC today using your tram tool idea, saved me $100

  • @dapper98374
    @dapper98374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who would dislike this video? 🤔 It’s simple and very informative. Well done man.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve come to learn that you could be handing out free 1 dollar bills, and someone would complain that it wasn’t a 5.

    • @brendanhowe5415
      @brendanhowe5415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They wanted to watch the gat simulator

    • @LABbuildingco.
      @LABbuildingco. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brendanhowe5415 hahah

  • @Shadypoolguy
    @Shadypoolguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just found your channel. Going to tram my machine this weekend. Thank you so much!

  • @rfrhoad
    @rfrhoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've looked at about ten different videos on how to do this with my shapeoko. Your video is by FAR the most easy to understand and well produced. Thanks!!!!

  • @peterlabat1527
    @peterlabat1527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bro, you made this soooo simple. The process seems so intimidating to be honest but after seeing this I feel like I can do it. Keep pushing content!!!

  • @TReischl1
    @TReischl1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing folks how to tram.
    That said, a piece of 1/4 inch rod bent into a lazy Z shape works just fine.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup there’s lots of ways to do it.

  • @lylet100
    @lylet100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a late comer to your channel but I for sure will have a popcorn night and check out all the other videos.
    It’s just amazing what is available to make you smarter.
    Thanks again

  • @rickyracer8717
    @rickyracer8717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple and direct! No need to buy an expensive tool with two dial indicators, and to be fair, this is probably more accurate! Thanx mate! 👍

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve had good luck with this method. Thanks for watching!

    • @rickyracer8717
      @rickyracer8717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD Just finished dialing in my machine... Bit of a challenge on a 1200x1200 surface, and I think the key is to be patient. Trammed three times, and surfaced 4 times, but it's 100% level now with just those 'fluffy' marks between the cuts, as on yours. So glad I found your TH-cam post! Cheers mate! 👍

  • @kevo60420
    @kevo60420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice. I trammed the router holder on my machine with 123 blocks. Like the way you used the wood to check the table.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a small metal surface plate.

  • @over60crafter
    @over60crafter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this cool tutorial on tramming.I am finally going to get around to tramming my shapeoko.

  • @gdeck44
    @gdeck44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting theses videos! Very helpful to us "newbies".

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!

  • @lancesloan5451
    @lancesloan5451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for posting this Chris, perfect timing I just assembled my Shapeoko 3 XXL after it sitting in the box for 10 months and getting ready to fine tune it. Cheers !

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome. Good luck with everything!

  • @Magicmike12345
    @Magicmike12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome. Thanks buddy. Once again you knock the ball out of the park.

  • @woogaloo
    @woogaloo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow - that's a much easier thing to get than the tram tools. Thank you for also showing which way you moved the rails and which screws to undo. I just surfaced mine so I need to do this!

  • @vogelfamily7052
    @vogelfamily7052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing this video. I have been having issues since I got the dang machine and now i believe I'm ready to fix it.

  • @tonymarrazzo354
    @tonymarrazzo354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really good! I do the same thing on my shaper and it makes a huge difference in cope and stick doors.

  • @Hauntcast
    @Hauntcast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You kept this extremely simple. Thank bro!

  • @fxsrider
    @fxsrider 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never toss or recycle old dull-broken bits! I make tooling pins out of my old bits. Come in handy for tiling large jobs.

  • @stevegronsky8904
    @stevegronsky8904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super simple. Thanks for posting it.

  • @ClintonCaraway
    @ClintonCaraway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job.... seriously I never got even close!! Especially without removing that damn front plate multiple times..... I had to buy a supply of m5 bolts for the spindle mount because I stripped several working on a tram left to right and went through a mile of tin foil tramming front to back.
    Your a tramoligist my friend!!

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just lucky haha. Some of the hardware definitely leaves something to desire. I think some of these are single use screws.

  • @Todd-W
    @Todd-W 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always a pleasure watching your video tutorials man!

  • @MrAustinjeff
    @MrAustinjeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never did this but I’m going too now!!!!

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hadn’t done it for the first year I was need my machine. It definitely improved my cut quality. I should have done it sooner.

  • @homesteadhandyman4481
    @homesteadhandyman4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks Chris!

  • @tavenwood
    @tavenwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Stephen Hall from Tube Ritual - I've been dreading tramming my machine, but this method is so much easier than what I've seen. I'll be doing this in the next few days. Great vid Chris!

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome. It works pretty well. What machine do you have?

    • @tavenwood
      @tavenwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD I have a machine from PDJ called a Pilot Pro 2626. Not widely known, but they are built more like an Avid CNC.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They look interesting. I’m trying to figure out what my next one will be. Considering a cnc4newbie. I want something that can handle a half sheet of plywood.

    • @tavenwood
      @tavenwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Powell I want something larger as well. Like a 4x8 Avid, but I don’t have the space for it yet ;) I’ve also used a Laguna Swift 4x4 and that’s a good machine. Those are super heavy, so it would be nicer to stick with a kit machine.

  • @MrMichaelkc
    @MrMichaelkc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate your videos, they really help thanks Chris!

  • @JeffsCustomRC
    @JeffsCustomRC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, love making something grow other stuff we have lying around, great idea and very helpful setting up shaepoko

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I gotta do something with all of the scraps I refuse to throw away!

  • @dennispeacock6079
    @dennispeacock6079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video! Very helpful!

  • @briannofsinger7696
    @briannofsinger7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video THANKS!

  • @hashanwickramasinghe1067
    @hashanwickramasinghe1067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful ❤

  • @idrewwood
    @idrewwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius. My X-Carve needs a good tramming after the new z-axis install. This seems easy enough without spending $100 for a tool.

  • @whitecollarworkshop
    @whitecollarworkshop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chris....if your old router bit that's inserted in the router isn't perfectly 90 degrees to your piece of pine, that will affect the other side of the pine and make it look out of alignment.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is correct, but it won’t have any effect on what we’re doing here. Each bit is fixed, and the circle you’re making with the bit will always be parallel to the face of the bit that’s in your router.

  • @bobbonham4823
    @bobbonham4823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @erdiabolo
    @erdiabolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very cool! TY!

  • @rickdel73
    @rickdel73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video... I'm about a 1/16th off from my front to back. I've done exactly like you but I can only get about a 1/32" movement, and that's really putting some weight behind it. I also tried loosening all eight bolts (the two pivots) but still no movement. I think I can get it if really put a lot of weight on my two clamps, but it's requiring A LOT of pressure (I'm around 200lbs and it's requiring most of it). I just wanted to get your thoughts before I do that. I don't want to bend or break anything. I have a pretty flat torsion box and no leveling feet just pink foam sub-base. BTW, from the day I assembled, I had a hell of a time aligning my bolts. There's like zero play! Even when I loosen them, they're very tight in the holes (shocked I didn't strip them). Thanks

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve heard this before. Some machines do seem to be a little tighter than others. You can file out the holes a little to get some adjustment. I know it’s a pain, but that’s about the only thing I can think to do, provides everything else is square.

  • @KTMGUY95
    @KTMGUY95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff!

  • @ChungWangLI
    @ChungWangLI 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful !

  • @TunaSoda
    @TunaSoda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So this will adjust the router to be perfectly perpendicular to the most likely off-square cnc bed? I would think it would be better to square the router off to a piece of glass or a level spanning across both of your Y rails then re-surface the spoilboard after to match?

  • @George-ew3gx
    @George-ew3gx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Chris,thanks for the video. I love your enclosure for the Shapeoko, would you share the dimensions and or design with us?
    Thanks, George

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I just used a 4x4 sheet of plywood for the bottom, out some 12” long 4x4 legs on it, and used mdf for the top. It actually overhangs the plywood base so the inside is a full 4x4’. I built the whole top box, and cut the door out of it. I wish I had done a video on it, but it was before I was doing stuff like this.

    • @George-ew3gx
      @George-ew3gx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD How high is the actual cabinet inside dimension?

  • @MrAustinjeff
    @MrAustinjeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well when I move the y axsis then put the screws back in the screws put it back to where it began. Leaving the screws in a bit all but one I wasn’t able to even adjust it. Ugh.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try loosening all 4 on each side.

  • @ldhenderson95
    @ldhenderson95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just saved me $100

  • @thinkcreate5596
    @thinkcreate5596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you got any insight on how to adjust the xcarve machines

  • @philreed1000
    @philreed1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, many thanks, one question, or comment, does the bit that is fixed in the router have to be perfectly square, cos if not it will throw everything out?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No both can be crooked. By spinning it, you’re creating a circle. The face of that circle is parallel to the face of the bit you insert into your router.

    • @philreed1000
      @philreed1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chris Powell ah, yes I see it now. Why not tram to the x and y rails? Before surfacing ?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t think of any method of doing that that would be easier than just surfacing the wasteboard.

  • @eckcreations2200
    @eckcreations2200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only problem I have with this idea is that you should have used a drill press for the holes. If you didn't drill straight down, then the device would already be out of line.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s incorrect. I’m pretty sure I explained why in the video. The plane created by spinning the tool will always be perpendicular to the shaft in the collet. It doesn’t matter if everything is drilled perfectly square or not.

    • @maxSchlein
      @maxSchlein ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD I actually had the same question, I didn't hear it in the video, but i'm at work (dont tell). But once I read your comment, closed my eyes and visualized it, I agree. Very nice!!! Think I'll do the same thing, but use my cheap Harbor Freight Dial indicator.

  • @davidcochran934
    @davidcochran934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just for clarification you recommend surfacing before and after trimming correct?

  • @creativebobbo
    @creativebobbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tramming on the X axis can be done with eccentrics as they are inside the rails.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only have eccentrics one the bottom of the plates for any of the axis. I’m not aware that they ever put them on the top also. Sounds like it would be very difficult to set up and keep them properly tensioned.

    • @creativebobbo
      @creativebobbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD It should have read Z axis but effects X tram.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only eccentrics I have are on the bottom v wheels. There’s no way to adjust tram with them.

  • @echo1er
    @echo1er 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbs up.
    Question would it benefit to put a level bubble on the tool? And could you cnc a zero block out?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would only indicate if the whole machine was level.

    • @echo1er
      @echo1er 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD okay. Got it. Thanks for the reply

  • @icey1104
    @icey1104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loosened the side screws but could not get the bar to rotate even the slightest.

  • @chrstofuchaos
    @chrstofuchaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you properly tram if the waste board isn't perfectly flat? I assume flattening with a machine that isn't properly trammed would cause it to be out of whack?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You flatten first. Even if the tram is off, you’re still making the whole wasteboard parallel to the face of the bit and that’s what’s important. That gives you a surface to tram from.

    • @chrstofuchaos
      @chrstofuchaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD Appreciate the answer. I will run my flattening operation first and then tram.

  • @peterlabat1527
    @peterlabat1527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to make a new wasteboard with threaded inserts and complete the tramming. Which should i do first make the wasteboard and install, then tram to the new wasteboard? Tram to the old/ original wasteboard

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never really been a fan of the threaded inserts, but you should just be able to cut them in the supplemental wasteboard, insert the threaded inserts, flip it over, secure it to the wasteboard, then surface the supplemental. Then tram, and surface again if you make any adjustments.

    • @peterlabat1527
      @peterlabat1527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD thanks bud. Keep putting out great content!

  • @shotofwhimsy5721
    @shotofwhimsy5721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Chris, I paused it at 2:07 and something caught my eye. Did you make sure the bits you put in the wood are at exactly 90 degrees to the board? It looked kind of crooked which made me realize how important that has to be when I recreate this.

    • @jasonz1851
      @jasonz1851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thought the same thing. Freehand drilling, no way that hole was square. But, a great idea overall, just need a bit more precision.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It actually isn’t important at all. Each bit could be at a a crazy angle, and it wouldn’t matter because the circle that you create will always be perpendicular to the z axis.

  • @ghostghost6268
    @ghostghost6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how about a resurfacing of the waste board?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/LPfZarPPdT8/w-d-xo.html

  • @bonarlibor3067
    @bonarlibor3067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My x axis has 5mm drop over 1200mm 🤣🤪 not sure how to fix

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      See if you can loosen your rails and adjust them up or down.

  • @booysingha
    @booysingha ปีที่แล้ว

    at 1:00 What happen if drill not 90 degree.

  • @carissaea
    @carissaea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey chris, so do i surface my wasteboard before i do this and then surface again after i tram it?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Surface, tram, surface again if you made any adjustments.

  • @mrchaucer
    @mrchaucer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still see tool marks or undulations on your spoil board...is this normal or should the tramming have fixed this? I've noticed these on my workpieces after face milling and was trying to figure out how to get rid of those marks. All videos I see on youtube seem to show these marks. People just say that something must not be exactly square or plumb, and they just sand it off the wood pieces. Others say it is tooling marks that are going to be there regardless. What I see are undulations or wavy marks with not only visible ridges where the tool runs, but I can feel them as well. Maybe only 1/32 or 1/64 inch, but they are there. Any suggestions?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re most likely not enough to worry about.

  • @rickdel73
    @rickdel73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chris, I've been working on tramming a few days now. I've trammed, flattened, and retrammed. I still see and barely feel ridges going from front to back (like this IIIIII). I think that's the X axis (spindle) that needs adjustment. I used my 1-2-3 blocks, machinist square, and digital calipers and got it PERFECT. However, with my tramming tool, just like yours, it's rubbing on the left and about .80 mm high on the right. What should I do? I assume the tramming tool is more accurate than the 1-2-3 blocks in this situation, correct? What do you recommend? Thanks

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem with the 123 block is it really has to sit on the ridges to give you an accurate measurement. The tram tool is a more accurate way of measuring it.

    • @rickdel73
      @rickdel73 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD Thanks!

  • @ClintonCaraway
    @ClintonCaraway 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I paused at 0:28 just to say that if you can tram the stock Z-Axis of the Shapeoko correctly then you are some kind of Yoda Jedi Trammoligist. I can honestly say I hate the factory Z enough that I sold a very elusive and valuable piece of my vape mod collection just to upgrade to the HDZ...

    • @JGumaJ
      @JGumaJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gepetto?

  • @musicrocx096
    @musicrocx096 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, question, I understand what all you did, BUT how does one know the problem doesn’t lie in the wasteboard vs the router/gantry? 🤔🤔

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assuming you squared your machine properly, the wasteboard should be very close to level in the machine.

  • @SpwnDragn
    @SpwnDragn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Chris do you have the setup info to put in carbide for the surfacing bit?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You just put it in as an endmil. All you should need is the diameter.

    • @SpwnDragn
      @SpwnDragn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD gotcha, ordered it yesterday didn’t know if it would have the feeds/speeds listed when it got here

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpwnDragn for surfacing a wasteboard, I run it as fast as I can. 200ipm is no problem for it. I make really light passes. .01” usually.

    • @SpwnDragn
      @SpwnDragn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD hey Chris sorry to keep bothering you, on the part where you use the clamp to til forward backward, if I’m at the front and I pull down to get the gauge to 0, the minute I let go it goes off 0, when I go to the center of the wasteboard and tilt forward I can get it to 0 and it will stay at 0 but then when I move it forward (towards me) it’ll go off 0

  • @resorter66
    @resorter66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chris I have a question. I have a xxl and I found the other day that when it is jogged all the way forward it touches the left front frame bracket but does not come in contact with the right front bracket. I have checked that the frame is square from corner to corner and it is. So I am wondering if at some point that the belt on that sid e has skipped a tooth or two and that is causing this to be that way. Any Ideas Thanks Jeff Peters

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think it would matter if the belt skipped a tooth because it’s a stepper motor. It homes off the switch in the back right. When it’s all the way back, does it touch on the right and not the left. Sounds like something is out of square.

    • @resorter66
      @resorter66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPowellFSD Chris when I pull it back the right rear side touches the up right but the left rear does not about the same as the front space. Does you unit touch both sides moved all the way forward and back word

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is. I used a carpenters square to make sure my frame was square. I found it difficult to accurately measure from corner to corner because all I had was a tape measure. Have you done any tests to see if you’re cutting square? You can cut a square with a fine point bit, and measure from side to side and corner to corner on that.

    • @resorter66
      @resorter66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD Chris yesterday I created a file to cut out a 4 inch square using ,625 end mil to check to see if it cut it out square, So I am happy to say that it was square all the way around. So I assume that that means the gantry is square to the side rails. Have you ever just pulled your gantry all the way forward to see if it touches both front up rights.?

  • @josescxavier
    @josescxavier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you make the two pins parallel?

  • @randyfreeman786
    @randyfreeman786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing this! Is there a way to get an email to you? I am new and have questions? Thanks

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris@fullsteamdesigns.com

    • @randyfreeman786
      @randyfreeman786 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisPowellFSD Thank you so much, my email is ppets.mac@gmail.com as well, and Randy Freeman is my name btw!

  • @g.b.markos2774
    @g.b.markos2774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Q: Just trying to wrap my head around this, not trying to challenge your design, as I'm about to tram my CNC, but one aspect of your tool is gnawing away at me. It looks like you assumed that the holes you drilled were perfectly parallel with one another (eg: both were drilled at exactly the same angle thru the wood (90 degrees?). In other words, if the holes are not perfectly parallel, wouldn't that throw off your calibration once the "arm" is mounted in the router? e.g.: if one hole is at 90 degrees but the other is skewed slightly at 89.7 degrees? Again, just trying to learn and understand this approach before diving in to it on my CNC.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don’t actually have to be parallel or perfectly 90 degrees. The imaginary plane created by spinning it will always be parallel to the face of the bit in the router. One could be 45 degrees and it wouldn’t matter. It’s the plane created by spinning it that you’re after.

  • @chrislibby1732
    @chrislibby1732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    chris, what did you use for a square block?

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s just a precision ground surface plate I had laying around. A 123 block would be the easiest thing to find if you don’t have something like that.

  • @mattarenz1195
    @mattarenz1195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't you use the 123 blocks in the Y direction as well? It will show you when you are parallel

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can, but I still recommend checking it with the tool we made after setting it with the 123 blocks. The length of the tool makes it more accurate. Mine is about 10” long from point to point, so we’re measuring about 20” with that, vs 3” with a 123 block.

  • @broncobill3902
    @broncobill3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think you mean perpendicular.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re referring to where I said “The face if the bit is always going to be parallel to the circle it creates”, I meant parallel. You have 2 circles that are parallel with one another.

    • @broncobill3902
      @broncobill3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Powell Nope, 26 seconds in you said the bit is parallel to the waste board. That’s what I was referring to.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The face of the bit is parallel to the waste board.

  • @stevenrichardson7882
    @stevenrichardson7882 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not “parallel to“, its “perpendicular to“.

    • @ChrisPowellFSD
      @ChrisPowellFSD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The face of the bit is parallel to the surface of the waste board.

    • @maxSchlein
      @maxSchlein ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically the face is parallel, it's a flat surfacing bit. The shaft would be perpendicular.