just to assure you i was paying attention, i noticed the odd funnel at 13:36. wikipedia confirms this was a giesl oblong ejector and the only one fitted in australia. the loco still exists at thirlmere but i don't know if the mod remains. i'm sure you already know all this.
Yes but thanks for bringing notice to it. Good to know the locomotive is still in existence after the passing of more than 50 years since the film was taken..
locos with mods are as important to posterity as those without. for example: all victorian railways locos. i was always putting more/bigger carbies and exhausts on my cars when i was younger. i am disappointed that the group with one of the super r's chopped out the front end mods that west coast rail had done to it. there are enough plain vanilla flavoured r's around to justify retaining the mods. i actually found somewhere on this instrument of satan (the internet) that advice was obtained directly from someone involved in mods to the south african red devil. top read. did you know of this?
Wasn't aware of what modifications were done to the front end of some restored Rs or why such would be cut out. I read the interesting Wikipedia page on the R class and it doesn't give reasons for abandoning the modifications so I'm none the wiser. Interesting that R766 is in NSW being converted to standard gauge according to the Wikipedia page.. Looks like Vic has lost that one then. I saw R706 at Korumburra in the mid 1960s being serviced while returning from Foster and have a video on TH-cam from 8mm film of that. Must have been one of the earliest ones in service. It was in charge of a train of early corridor type swing door vintage carriages.
here's what i've found. google 'anatomy of west coast railways "super" r class'. this is the story of how the mods came about. jeez, wasn't i happy to find this. yt 'r766 restoration update'. jeez, this one made my month. i don't bloody care that it is now north of the border. it is welcome back if ever it's owners want to. and i'm sure they will want to. the conversion was done by steamrail apparently. the first vr loco to have ever been standardized. what was done was, amongst other things, a lempor exhaust system. the steam whiz, david wardale also worked on sar red devil 'south african class 26 4-8-4' on wikipedia. a good read in my opinion. there are some yt vids where they're having fun with a super r. i'll go looking for the references. mention of 'corridor type swing door carriages has got me in a lather. i'll hunt that one down. i actually asked greensleeves94 on one of his vids, why the lempor thing had been removed and i think he said they couldn't get it to work or something. the vids of it in action reveal the opposite. irrespective of how well a steam loco can be made to work, it can never be made to be electric start.
some stuff comes up when you type 'super r class loco' into yt. there's one vid which i can't find where it seems to be single handedly dragging the other r and the train up a bank. there is also a shunt manoeuvre where it accelerates impressively which i also can't find.
Black smoke, what is the obsession with black smoke? The LMS in the UK could run powerfully and economically with just a wisp of grey smoke. Any wonder NSWGR went diesel (though ALCOs had their share of BS!)
They turned it on a bit at photo stops for photographers sometimes. Usually a bit much perhaps. Easier to control on the main lines at speed though no doubt. Easier than locos slogging it out on some hilly bendy slow branch line. Anyway it smells nice. Wish they could bottle the smell. Or should I say aroma? The coal burned in the steam locomotive in Western Australia was devoid of any smoke production. Still plenty of coal in New south Wales and Queensland. They hypocritically frown on burning it in Australia. What they do is export countless millions of tons of it each year to places like Japan, China and India. and they burn it there instead.
@@donpollard9460 -- Do you mean they make less smoke better on the LMS which would be true? Or do you mean that they burn the same millions of tons of Australian coal better somewhere else?
@@reidgck Probably both! The LMS put out a training film in which they state the humungous amount of coal burnt by their locos and that there was an economical way to fire that obtained the "last BTU" from each shovelful. From memory, it was little and often (sound familiar, diabetics?); it had something to do with the mechanics/chemistry of burning coal - fines and gases. Anyway they achieved their goal and had cleaner engines to boot. Also, they made their fire door such that they could keep them open a smidge - this encouraged gas and fines production. I could go on - Oh, I just did. In regards to burning coal better elsewhere, I was just reiterating the ad ... Perhaps a grain or too of NaCl is needed here!
@@donpollard9460 == That film Little and Often is at th-cam.com/video/PVIr66K_rUA/w-d-xo.html It's a good film! And Yes! I've noticed that ad too. They have to do things with gross inefficiency otherwise the speculators will lose out and the economy will likely collapse.
Thanks for sharing this with us. Pitt there's no sound except the projector.
Thanks for the memories 3813 was a great loco as where the p class i did plenty of jobs with both
Great video, the sound of the camera is pretty relaxing too!
Am reloading the WA steam in the South West video with similar soundtrack th-cam.com/video/T9NVaC0TAIw/w-d-xo.html
@@reidgckWhat sound track. I had to turn the noise down.
1968 the last year of Steam in Australia! A time when Steam was STILL KING!😁🏗️
Jesse Sands No it wasn’t, there were still some engines potting around in Government service until 1983, and private service until 1989.
this is also featured on steam in nsw part 4
just to assure you i was paying attention, i noticed the odd funnel at 13:36. wikipedia confirms this was a giesl oblong ejector and the only one fitted in australia. the loco still exists at thirlmere but i don't know if the mod remains. i'm sure you already know all this.
Yes but thanks for bringing notice to it. Good to know the locomotive is still in existence after the passing of more than 50 years since the film was taken..
locos with mods are as important to posterity as those without. for example: all victorian railways locos. i was always putting more/bigger carbies and exhausts on my cars when i was younger. i am disappointed that the group with one of the super r's chopped out the front end mods that west coast rail had done to it. there are enough plain vanilla flavoured r's around to justify retaining the mods. i actually found somewhere on this instrument of satan (the internet) that advice was obtained directly from someone involved in mods to the south african red devil. top read. did you know of this?
Wasn't aware of what modifications were done to the front end of some restored Rs or why such would be cut out.
I read the interesting Wikipedia page on the R class and it doesn't give reasons for abandoning the modifications so
I'm none the wiser. Interesting that R766 is in NSW being converted to standard gauge according to the Wikipedia page.. Looks like Vic has lost that one then. I saw R706 at Korumburra in the mid 1960s being serviced while returning from Foster and have a video on TH-cam from 8mm film of that. Must have been one of the earliest ones in service. It was in charge of a train of early corridor type swing door vintage carriages.
here's what i've found. google 'anatomy of west coast railways "super" r class'. this is the story of how the mods came about. jeez, wasn't i happy to find this. yt 'r766 restoration update'. jeez, this one made my month. i don't bloody care that it is now north of the border. it is welcome back if ever it's owners want to. and i'm sure they will want to. the conversion was done by steamrail apparently. the first vr loco to have ever been standardized. what was done was, amongst other things, a lempor exhaust system. the steam whiz, david wardale also worked on sar red devil 'south african class 26 4-8-4' on wikipedia. a good read in my opinion. there are some yt vids where they're having fun with a super r. i'll go looking for the references. mention of 'corridor type swing door carriages has got me in a lather. i'll hunt that one down. i actually asked greensleeves94 on one of his vids, why the lempor thing had been removed and i think he said they couldn't get it to work or something. the vids of it in action reveal the opposite. irrespective of how well a steam loco can be made to work, it can never be made to be electric start.
some stuff comes up when you type 'super r class loco' into yt. there's one vid which i can't find where it seems to be single handedly dragging the other r and the train up a bank. there is also a shunt manoeuvre where it accelerates impressively which i also can't find.
I was a fireman then at Enfield. I was 18 .
God bless the 38s!☺️
Black smoke, what is the obsession with black smoke? The LMS in the UK could run powerfully and economically with just a wisp of grey smoke. Any wonder NSWGR went diesel (though ALCOs had their share of BS!)
They turned it on a bit at photo stops for photographers sometimes. Usually a bit much perhaps. Easier to control on the main lines at speed though no doubt. Easier than locos slogging it out on some hilly bendy slow branch line. Anyway it smells nice. Wish they could bottle the smell. Or should I say aroma? The coal burned in the steam locomotive in Western Australia was devoid of any smoke production. Still plenty of coal in New south Wales and Queensland. They hypocritically frown on burning it in Australia. What they do is export countless millions of tons of it each year to places like Japan, China and India. and they burn it there instead.
@@reidgck ... and they do it better!
@@donpollard9460 -- Do you mean they make less smoke better on the LMS which would be true? Or do you mean that they burn the same millions of tons of Australian coal better somewhere else?
@@reidgck Probably both! The LMS put out a training film in which they state the humungous amount of coal burnt by their locos and that there was an economical way to fire that obtained the "last BTU" from each shovelful. From memory, it was little and often (sound familiar, diabetics?); it had something to do with the mechanics/chemistry of burning coal - fines and gases. Anyway they achieved their goal and had cleaner engines to boot. Also, they made their fire door such that they could keep them open a smidge - this encouraged gas and fines production. I could go on - Oh, I just did.
In regards to burning coal better elsewhere, I was just reiterating the ad ... Perhaps a grain or too of NaCl is needed here!
@@donpollard9460 == That film Little and Often is at th-cam.com/video/PVIr66K_rUA/w-d-xo.html It's a good film! And Yes! I've noticed that ad too. They have to do things with gross inefficiency otherwise the speculators will lose out and the economy will likely collapse.