the thing is with the Alternators that Takara already have their own photos of the figures correctly transformed under the Binaltech label back in Japan, why Hasbro did not use the Takara photos as reference in the first place is mind-boggling.
For that Shuffler, there's actually a stopping point for the hind legs to prevent it from going way to back. So that means that the photographer had to force the legs into that position to obtain a transformation that they deemed as correct.
"Should we hire someone who actually knows how Transformers work to take these photos so we can actually sell these toys?" "What? No. Why would we do that? Just got Jerry from accounting to do it. I'm sure it'll be fine enough."-Hasbro board meeting, probably.
I have a repaint of that deluxe armada Optimus Prime and that picture is exactly how I have been transforming it ever since I was a kid and lost the directions. I always assumed the arms were supposed to be all the way out, and never thought to ever check the instructions for the transformation at any point until now. My mind is blown.
My most hated stock image is one of the G1 Constructicons where they have all six lined up, but Scrapper’s legs aren’t folded up so he’s half the size of the others
15:00 ... Can someone explain to me how they managed to make the barrel of the little tank POINT UP!? I have that toy, the barrel is fixed pointing straight forward! Did they break it by accident and then try to hide their mistake?
I was thinking the same thing. It's one of the raddest pieces of equipment though, using your dead corpse as your arm mounted weapon doesn't get much cooler.
No joke... I looked at the thumb nail image first went "What the hell that's mistransformed" before I even read the title of the video. Also how did they manage to mistransform Armada Optimus so badly that his shoulders got put into a configuration I didn't even know they could do? By the way... that Skywarp... that's actually how I transformed the original version of that mold for YEARS. I never knew that his torso could collapse cause the instructions for that figure were crap and never made it clear that was even a step in the transformation. I didn't have the arms posed that way though. But yeah it took me an embarrassingly long amount of time to realize that figure folded in half. That last photo of RotF Optimus Prime... did they take that figure off my bed while I was at work to take that photo? For some context here, I had just got that figure and was transforming him for the first time. The transformation is so complex it got to a point where I knew he wasn't anywhere near transformed correctly but I had to leave for work so I just left him on my bed and he looked pretty much exactly like he does in that photo. Of course when I got home I transformed him the rest of the way before going to bed. I'm mostly joking because I doubt anyone got ahold of my figure while I was at work to take this photo without my knowledge but he really was an exploded mess just like that for a good few hours before I could actually complete the transformation.
That configuration of the shoulders on Armada Optimus is just what happens after opening the front of his truck mode. I've had that toy my whole life and didn't know until today that there was a double joint there to make him look more compact.
As someone who had Dark Scorponok growing up (and still has him, although he is missing his missiles and his feet), 10:08 made me cringe slightly, i would get it if the mandible/shoulder pieces were not positioned, they were all ways a bit difficult to move, but not figuring out that the tail can bend away? also did they not give these people the instruction sheets? edit: fixed timestamp
Alternators Smokescreen is what got me back into collecting Transformers when they came out. Glad I never saw that terrible transformation pic back then
For clarity Archfire was the European name for Combat Megatron, since the 1993 Megatron was still on shelves in 1994 Europe. Combat Optimus was conversely renamed Sureshot.
Something that stands out to me; these things come with instructions, I can just about understand that Hasbro may not have printed them yet, when doing in house (though you'd think a Printout could be handed to the Photographer, or in this day and age a JPEG sent to their Tablet) but for Catalouges like that Prime at the end, surely they have the instructions right there.
Holy mother, this is downright hilarious! One of the most recent cases of terrible stock photography that I remember is MPM-05 Barricade on Amazon. He looks like and imp, with the head almost hiding in the chest, the legs terribly mistransformed, the backpack hanging from the back (DOTM Deluxe Soundwave flashbacks) and the car's hood protruding from the back of his head. It doesn't look like a Masterpiece at all, but like Barricade himself after Bumblebee beat the spark out of him.
Pretty sure they don't. They just get the toy and are told to go for it/fit it into their schedule. These photographers also have a lot of other crap to take stock photos of, so I reckon they'll care significantly less about getting this "toy" transformed by the letter and just get it looking good enough (?). It's no wonder Hasbro goes with 3D renders these days...
As someone who doesn't follow or see the toys much, this is more funny by guessing how it's supposed to look and find what's wrong with them and then Googling how it actually looks.
I think I've seen a mistransformed stock photo for myself. It was from the Universe line. It was a catalog image of Tankor, whose thruster was pointing to the viewer above his head. I don't know 100% percent if that is mistransformed, but I bet it is.
If I had to guess, I would say that the kid in the photoshoot for ROTF Optimus was messing around with the figure while waiting for the photographers to set up the the picture and nobody had the time or knowledge to fix it once they were ready.
"Fortunately most stock photos are better these days; they don't make those mistakes anymore..." Somehow I can hear the fainting voice of Ultimate X-Spanse's first promotional photos screaming "End my misery." as his head gets slowly sunken into his torso.
The history of the term Legends Class is very confusing. The term initially referred to the tiny, cheap versions of larger figures in the Cybertron line, which were rebranded as Legion Class around 2010. After that, the term Legends was used to refer to the more Scout Class style toys in the Generations line, which were rebranded as Core Class for Kingdom.
There's a product shot of Ultimate X-Spanse floating around that has mis-transformed wrists, to the point that they're at a 45 degree angle to the arms, looks like he broke them both stopping himself falling or something.
Since getting into collecting, I've regularly noticed issues with accessories being incorrectly placed in these stock photos. How these photos get approval from the manufacturer/ licensor with such glaring oversight?
Oh man that is so horrible. You'd think they would have people photograph them that actually know what they are doing. I hope the upcoming Skids is mistransformed in the stock photos and that it actually isn't so broad chested and doesn't need to have a panel sticking up behind his head.
"They don't pay me enough for this" says literally everyone in charge of photography and advertising. Also, know that his name is Razorclaw, and that he can reproduce asexually.
Universe 2.0 had some of the worst stock photos. On a sidenote; I used to transform my old universe Skywarp that way for the first few years I owned him as a little kid. 😅
Unlike Hasbro at least Takara puts effort in their photos, a lot of japanese toy companies put effort into their stock photos actually like Max Factory for example. Hasbro is just lazy and greedy. Credit is where credits due though, some of the Kingdom stock photos are actually pretty good like Dinobot's. I guess they fired the guy obsessed with putting figures in disco poses and actually got a professional for once. Ultra Magnus's photo is pretty bad however but that's the only bad Kingdom stock photo I've seen so far.
I really like the Armada Optimus Prime 3:09, the one which came with the Spike Minicon that transformed into the Lamborghini-style car, and trailer. The reason? You can not only attach him with Jetfire legs and Over Run as a weapon pack, you can also attach all three minicon partners, weapon up the combination with the three minicon super weapons (Star-Sabre, Requiem Blaster & the Skyboom Shield), but there's also two sets of three triple-changer minicons that change from robot to vehicle to single weapons, and all six of these can be attached too. And you can also attach their hand weapons onto it too. So, in total, the one super-combination Armada Optimus Prime set is three non-transforming weapons, and 21 robots merged into one, supremely weaponised Optimus Prime.
I get the difficoulty of getting either some action poses, or retailer-catching pose, but some of thise are worse than the pic you find on second hand like ebay the hell is wrong with that optimus? I don't even think the final toy can reach that pose! I had that dark scorponok. I bet someone saw a Diaclone catalog and just went with it as idea half transformed smokescreen is funny as hell. dei dint even get the freaking gun right!, and even young me did! how in the hell do you get energon megatron wrong? it's one of the easier transformation!! unless it's supposed to be a kibble shot. can't see why it would tho. ok, I retract everything. how the hell did they manage to disloge the tank gun and keep it attached, anyway?!?!? I just realized I owned a lot of these. and I never ever seen these pics
It baffles me that Hasbro after all these years still hasn't figured out that their Transformers figures either need a dedicated photographer who is familiar with the figures, or someone on-hand to properly transform it. Or hell, just send two copies in each mode instead of hoping the poor photographer can figure it out.
To be fair to some of the older and misplaced arms ones....sometimes that is more or less what G1 transformers would look like, at least from memory, so if the photographer and/or person overseeing it was only familiar with the G1 stuff...it'd look ok for them
Great topic! In defence of badly Transformed Armada bendy Prime, many fans found that double-hinge shoulder to be difficult. That standing elephant was TeeHee-ous!! Some of the later images were downright not even trying!
I saw a photo on a g1 transformers catalog of Ultra Magnus and it was WAAAAAAY WORSE than these. 1. He didn’t have the bigger head over the white Optimus mode 2. The white Optimus wasn’t even connected into the inner pegs in the magnus body that go into the holes for the white Optimus’s hands 3. The white Optimus was STANDING UP on part of the inside magnus body, probably because they folded the feet down on white Optimus, so his chest and I think part of his stomach were visible 4. The blue arm cuffs on ultra magnus were still extended lower below the hands 5. The chest plate wasn’t on
by far the worst stock photos i've ever seen were for the alternators line, in particular, the mustang (grimlock, wheeljack) and mazda r-x8 (shockwave, jazz) molds like, do they not know how the figure works before taking photos of them??
Is Alternators Grimlock actually difficult for people? I had him and Smokescreen, and I figured out Grimlock immediately. I actually needed the directions for Smokescreen and still never got it quite right.
So, someone put the effort into making Energon Megatron's head show in vehicle mode (even though that's pretty obviously upside down), but couldn't figure out that he's supposed to have a head in robot mode?
To paraphrase Ratchet in RotF, "This toy is terribly mistransformed"
@@smb-c3po he said paraphrase. The original quote is 'this fool is terribly misinformed'
@@smb-c3po PARAPHRASE
Nvm I'm dumb I forgot what paraphrase actually means
@@smb-c3po ?
@@Deinobi don’t pay that person any mind,
Hasbro: *Wants to sell you $50 toy, shows photo of toy mistransformed*
the thing is with the Alternators that Takara already have their own photos of the figures correctly transformed under the Binaltech label back in Japan, why Hasbro did not use the Takara photos as reference in the first place is mind-boggling.
I think its because Takara's toys at the time differed from the Hasbro release.
"You got the touch..." Just not the touch required to transform these toys.
For that Shuffler, there's actually a stopping point for the hind legs to prevent it from going way to back. So that means that the photographer had to force the legs into that position to obtain a transformation that they deemed as correct.
Now That's dedication!!
"Should we hire someone who actually knows how Transformers work to take these photos so we can actually sell these toys?"
"What? No. Why would we do that? Just got Jerry from accounting to do it. I'm sure it'll be fine enough."-Hasbro board meeting, probably.
Oh my God, I was not ready for Ultra Thicc Magnus🤣. The picture had no right making me laugh that hard.
I remember seeing that optimus photo like 3 years ago on Reddit. Had me literally in tears
I love Bendy Prime, and I can't fathom how they even managed to get the toy to do that for the photo.
To be fair I had mine like that since owning it until I was 17 ( 7 years ago)
I have a repaint of that deluxe armada Optimus Prime and that picture is exactly how I have been transforming it ever since I was a kid and lost the directions. I always assumed the arms were supposed to be all the way out, and never thought to ever check the instructions for the transformation at any point until now. My mind is blown.
Yikes lol. Better late than never!
A lot of tiny turbo changers are mistransformed in their stock photos, the figures are so simple that the problems are really easy to see
Oh how I miss these old photos. But Ultra Magnus certainly gave me a nostalgic laugh when that announcement came. Gotta love stock photography.
TJO I think that (imo) I have a perfect video for next time, let’s all get together and watch some old transformers commercials. G1 to Rotf
YES
Diamond Bolt already did that but I would love to see it
@@smb-c3po what does that have to do at all with my comment_?
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@@smb-c3po There’s a time and place for everything dude, now is not that time.
My most hated stock image is one of the G1 Constructicons where they have all six lined up, but Scrapper’s legs aren’t folded up so he’s half the size of the others
15:00 ... Can someone explain to me how they managed to make the barrel of the little tank POINT UP!? I have that toy, the barrel is fixed pointing straight forward! Did they break it by accident and then try to hide their mistake?
I was thinking the same thing. It's one of the raddest pieces of equipment though, using your dead corpse as your arm mounted weapon doesn't get much cooler.
Maybe it was a prototype before Hasbro said, "We need to remove that barrel hinge to make room for the electronics."
No joke... I looked at the thumb nail image first went "What the hell that's mistransformed" before I even read the title of the video. Also how did they manage to mistransform Armada Optimus so badly that his shoulders got put into a configuration I didn't even know they could do?
By the way... that Skywarp... that's actually how I transformed the original version of that mold for YEARS. I never knew that his torso could collapse cause the instructions for that figure were crap and never made it clear that was even a step in the transformation. I didn't have the arms posed that way though. But yeah it took me an embarrassingly long amount of time to realize that figure folded in half.
That last photo of RotF Optimus Prime... did they take that figure off my bed while I was at work to take that photo? For some context here, I had just got that figure and was transforming him for the first time. The transformation is so complex it got to a point where I knew he wasn't anywhere near transformed correctly but I had to leave for work so I just left him on my bed and he looked pretty much exactly like he does in that photo. Of course when I got home I transformed him the rest of the way before going to bed. I'm mostly joking because I doubt anyone got ahold of my figure while I was at work to take this photo without my knowledge but he really was an exploded mess just like that for a good few hours before I could actually complete the transformation.
That configuration of the shoulders on Armada Optimus is just what happens after opening the front of his truck mode.
I've had that toy my whole life and didn't know until today that there was a double joint there to make him look more compact.
4:19 ratchet: Ahh, I need the medic
Optimus: But ratchet, you are the medic
Ratchet: well…just.. HELP ME!
10:49 since when did scorponock moonlight as the power loader from Aliens?
It was when Starscream was the leader. Dark days for the Deceptacons
As someone who had Dark Scorponok growing up (and still has him, although he is missing his missiles and his feet), 10:08 made me cringe slightly, i would get it if the mandible/shoulder pieces were not positioned, they were all ways a bit difficult to move, but not figuring out that the tail can bend away? also did they not give these people the instruction sheets?
edit: fixed timestamp
they gave them one thing..
drugs
I'd love to do stock photography. I wonder how the people who gets to do this gets hired anyway...
Alternators Smokescreen is what got me back into collecting Transformers when they came out. Glad I never saw that terrible transformation pic back then
For clarity Archfire was the European name for Combat Megatron, since the 1993 Megatron was still on shelves in 1994 Europe. Combat Optimus was conversely renamed Sureshot.
Kingdom Terrorsaur's most recent photograph is making me want a part 2 of atrocities.
14:00 So this is what Movie megatron was based on
I think that's TFP Megs...
Some of these hilarious, I was kind of expecting Expanse to show up on here some of those stock photos were rough
Something that stands out to me; these things come with instructions, I can just about understand that Hasbro may not have printed them yet, when doing in house (though you'd think a Printout could be handed to the Photographer, or in this day and age a JPEG sent to their Tablet) but for Catalouges like that Prime at the end, surely they have the instructions right there.
There’s a stock photo for studio series brawl. And you can see a small stack of dimes under his foot to try making him stand up
Holy mother, this is downright hilarious! One of the most recent cases of terrible stock photography that I remember is MPM-05 Barricade on Amazon. He looks like and imp, with the head almost hiding in the chest, the legs terribly mistransformed, the backpack hanging from the back (DOTM Deluxe Soundwave flashbacks) and the car's hood protruding from the back of his head. It doesn't look like a Masterpiece at all, but like Barricade himself after Bumblebee beat the spark out of him.
I see that Silverbolt photo and I think of when he got blown up in one of the last episodes. "Worry not, my love. 'Tis but a scratch."
There was a picture at a convention where a hasbro employee held up Combiner Wars Devastator and it looked just as bad as the last picture.
3:33 I had this Optimus Prime as a kid once, and this upset me greatly to see him like that.
I've always wondered, do the photographers not have the figures instructions?
Why do I have half of these molds?
In the end, I blame the marketing team for not making sure products are represented correctly.
I can't imagine what the toy designers would think when they would see these stock photos of their figures
Part of me wonders if the photographers are actually given transformation instruction manuals or not. Like, if they don’t, that’d be real sucky
Pretty sure they don't. They just get the toy and are told to go for it/fit it into their schedule. These photographers also have a lot of other crap to take stock photos of, so I reckon they'll care significantly less about getting this "toy" transformed by the letter and just get it looking good enough (?).
It's no wonder Hasbro goes with 3D renders these days...
I laughed so hard at the Ratchet one I woke up my parents. Thanks TJ
Silverbolt T-Posing for dominance? We know who he’s doing that to.
9:10 Apparently the first shattered glass figure made.
As someone who doesn't follow or see the toys much, this is more funny by guessing how it's supposed to look and find what's wrong with them and then Googling how it actually looks.
I swear most of these stock photo people don't have the transformation instructions.
Coming back to this after the broken Nova Prime product photo. Hasbro never learns. lol
mpm barricade deserves a nomination.
The photographer had 8 broken fingers
7:30 reminds me of the crustacean's from district 9
I think I've seen a mistransformed stock photo for myself.
It was from the Universe line. It was a catalog image of Tankor, whose thruster was pointing to the viewer above his head. I don't know 100% percent if that is mistransformed, but I bet it is.
that Subaru transformer is art, and no one can tell me otherwise
If I had to guess, I would say that the kid in the photoshoot for ROTF Optimus was messing around with the figure while waiting for the photographers to set up the the picture and nobody had the time or knowledge to fix it once they were ready.
"Fortunately most stock photos are better these days; they don't make those mistakes anymore..."
Somehow I can hear the fainting voice of Ultimate X-Spanse's first promotional photos screaming "End my misery." as his head gets slowly sunken into his torso.
Toy designers : 🫣
Stock photographers : 🗿
Can't help but wonder if the kid in that photo was messing with the toy between takes... and the photographer just didn't care.
12:07 This is what Bayverse Skids and Mudflap are based off of
Legends class nowadays is Core class.
Legion class is Micromaster/Movie Cyberverse size.
The history of the term Legends Class is very confusing. The term initially referred to the tiny, cheap versions of larger figures in the Cybertron line, which were rebranded as Legion Class around 2010. After that, the term Legends was used to refer to the more Scout Class style toys in the Generations line, which were rebranded as Core Class for Kingdom.
I love that Energon Megatron's head is visible in his alt mode, but not robot mode
There's a product shot of Ultimate X-Spanse floating around that has mis-transformed wrists, to the point that they're at a 45 degree angle to the arms, looks like he broke them both stopping himself falling or something.
13:18 I've heard of g1 gorilla arms, but this is ridiculous!
all this video did was remind me that i have Beast Machines Jetstorm somewhere on a shelf. and i totally forgot about it
Since getting into collecting, I've regularly noticed issues with accessories being incorrectly placed in these stock photos. How these photos get approval from the manufacturer/ licensor with such glaring oversight?
17:40 Detonated!? They freaking massacred the poor guy and took a photo of his corpse!
Seems like that Energon Megatron Jet mode Stock Photo was the inspiration for 07 Movie Megatron's jet mode.
You'd think that Subaru and GM would've sued Hasbro for making them look bad...
What trips me out is no one who knew transformers where anywhere around during the taking and making of these photos??
i wonder if the engineers get pissed.
Oh man that is so horrible. You'd think they would have people photograph them that actually know what they are doing. I hope the upcoming Skids is mistransformed in the stock photos and that it actually isn't so broad chested and doesn't need to have a panel sticking up behind his head.
that optimus look like it take a scene in gundam wing, where it walking into a enemy base while self detonating
dont forget simple fold down for the truck mode of ss102.
and the arms for the motorcycle back for ss rotb arcee
"They don't pay me enough for this" says literally everyone in charge of photography and advertising.
Also, know that his name is Razorclaw, and that he can reproduce asexually.
Universe 2.0 had some of the worst stock photos. On a sidenote; I used to transform my old universe Skywarp that way for the first few years I owned him as a little kid. 😅
Well… that Dark Scorponok photo looks like Emgo’s Mascot on steroids…. A lot of steroids.
Alternate Title: 19 Minutes of TJ Roasting Stock Photos.
Imagine if bob said "yeah that's right"
Ngl, that stock photo of Dark Scorponok looks really cool with that tall head.
Do they really not have a visual artist to compose the stock photos? Hey, Hasbro, I'd work for peanuts, c'mon.
At this point you'd think that Hasbro would supply the photographers with the instructions
Unlike Hasbro at least Takara puts effort in their photos, a lot of japanese toy companies put effort into their stock photos actually like Max Factory for example. Hasbro is just lazy and greedy.
Credit is where credits due though, some of the Kingdom stock photos are actually pretty good like Dinobot's. I guess they fired the guy obsessed with putting figures in disco poses and actually got a professional for once. Ultra Magnus's photo is pretty bad however but that's the only bad Kingdom stock photo I've seen so far.
I really like the Armada Optimus Prime 3:09, the one which came with the Spike Minicon that transformed into the Lamborghini-style car, and trailer. The reason? You can not only attach him with Jetfire legs and Over Run as a weapon pack, you can also attach all three minicon partners, weapon up the combination with the three minicon super weapons (Star-Sabre, Requiem Blaster & the Skyboom Shield), but there's also two sets of three triple-changer minicons that change from robot to vehicle to single weapons, and all six of these can be attached too. And you can also attach their hand weapons onto it too.
So, in total, the one super-combination Armada Optimus Prime set is three non-transforming weapons, and 21 robots merged into one, supremely weaponised Optimus Prime.
Forgot they gave Magnus a dumpy. He do be thick tho
Keep up the videos like this about TF trivia and history. This shit is fascinating :)
Wait, you're supposed to bend those shoulders up on armada prime?
Does Hasbro themselves not check these images before they put them on the box's? Lol these are great.
As easy as it would be to simply send one of the designers of each figure with the photo team, WHY DON’T THEY EVER?
Archforce is Hero Megatron's name in Europe. He's technically a completely different character.
I get the difficoulty of getting either some action poses, or retailer-catching pose, but some of thise are worse than the pic you find on second hand like ebay
the hell is wrong with that optimus? I don't even think the final toy can reach that pose!
I had that dark scorponok. I bet someone saw a Diaclone catalog and just went with it as idea
half transformed smokescreen is funny as hell. dei dint even get the freaking gun right!, and even young me did!
how in the hell do you get energon megatron wrong? it's one of the easier transformation!! unless it's supposed to be a kibble shot. can't see why it would tho. ok, I retract everything. how the hell did they manage to disloge the tank gun and keep it attached, anyway?!?!?
I just realized I owned a lot of these. and I never ever seen these pics
the last pic had me cackeling hysterically
Bendy prime was my first transformers figure ever, I remember seeing that photo and thought it was right, until about a year of owning it.
The recent Transformers X X-Men figure X-Panse has a pretty bad stock photo that you missed.
Dark Gundam Razorclaw is what I live for.
I wonder if Hasbro has an opening for people who can pose their toys for product shots. 😆
Optimus in the thumbnail is literally 5 years old desginer be like
8:18 He's t posing!
It baffles me that Hasbro after all these years still hasn't figured out that their Transformers figures either need a dedicated photographer who is familiar with the figures, or someone on-hand to properly transform it. Or hell, just send two copies in each mode instead of hoping the poor photographer can figure it out.
To be fair to some of the older and misplaced arms ones....sometimes that is more or less what G1 transformers would look like, at least from memory, so if the photographer and/or person overseeing it was only familiar with the G1 stuff...it'd look ok for them
I was surprised to see Ultimate X-Spanse wasn't on here.
Great topic! In defence of badly Transformed Armada bendy Prime, many fans found that double-hinge shoulder to be difficult.
That standing elephant was TeeHee-ous!! Some of the later images were downright not even trying!
I saw a photo on a g1 transformers catalog of Ultra Magnus and it was WAAAAAAY WORSE than these.
1. He didn’t have the bigger head over the white Optimus mode
2. The white Optimus wasn’t even connected into the inner pegs in the magnus body that go into the holes for the white Optimus’s hands
3. The white Optimus was STANDING UP on part of the inside magnus body, probably because they folded the feet down on white Optimus, so his chest and I think part of his stomach were visible
4. The blue arm cuffs on ultra magnus were still extended lower below the hands
5. The chest plate wasn’t on
by far the worst stock photos i've ever seen were for the alternators line, in particular, the mustang (grimlock, wheeljack) and mazda r-x8 (shockwave, jazz) molds like, do they not know how the figure works before taking photos of them??
Is Alternators Grimlock actually difficult for people? I had him and Smokescreen, and I figured out Grimlock immediately. I actually needed the directions for Smokescreen and still never got it quite right.
Universe Sideswipe was the very first thing I thought of. It's so fucking bad.
I think the only thing worse is that they get these pictures and don't send them back and tell them to get it right 😅
So, someone put the effort into making Energon Megatron's head show in vehicle mode (even though that's pretty obviously upside down), but couldn't figure out that he's supposed to have a head in robot mode?
Some of these blur the line between mistransformations and fan modes.
Out of all the revenge of the fallen toyline they only messed up Optimus, I refuse to believe that