1,2,1,2 isnt natural on ch, and i8, but f1,2,1,2 is. (i10) also 1,2,1,2 and 1,2,1,4 are both safe, 1,4,3 too He has good oki with db2 and df3 (takeroll catch) bryan's weakest version is definitely tekken 3, where he doesnt have df4, b1, db2
All though he has guarentee hit of f,f+2 after guard the running 3 (because of weird system in T3) he does considered as weakest character in T3. TTT1 was okayish
It was still easily launch punishable. I don’t know how - it was exactly but considering that Bryan could punish his own Snake Edge with his 19 frame WS1 (yes, it was that slow in T3), it was still quite the liability to throw out.
Snake Edge is still just as punishable in T3 (-27 or -28 on block) without the stagger. In fact the only real benefits to having a stagger animation are: 1. Easier for opponent to recognise the stagger animation and punish. 2. Cannot continue the string anymore on block. This really nerfed Jim/Heihachi hellsweeps and Paul Bone Breaker (d+4,2), which were launch punishable in T3 IF the string wasn’t continued, but doesn’t affect Snake Edge.
Punish your mom I don't understand what this "punish" mean in tekken lol😂 Also whats this b2 cs ws -2b4 What the heck is this All i know is OX∆⬜ Why don't people talk like that😢
You have found yourself in the high level Tekken sphere. I will try and explain these things as simply as I can. . A punish is basically when the opponent attacks you when you can't block. For example, let's say you use a powerful move and that powerful move doesn't hit. It either misses or it is blocked. If the opponent avoids that attack and then attacks you before you can block, that is a punish. . Those numbers correspond to each one of your attacks. 1 = Left Punch/Square, 2 = Right Punch/Triangle, 3 = Left Kick/X, 4 = Right Kick/O. The numbers are used by the competitive community as it is simply quicker/easier to say/type than Left Punch, Right Punch and so on. If you see multiple numbers with a + inbetween each number, that means you are pressing multiple buttons at the same time. So for a simple grab, you would press 1+3, which is left punch and left kick at the same time (or Square/X if you prefer). . The letters can mean various things. f,b,u,d all mean forward, back up and down respectively. So b2 for example, you press back (which is away from your opponent) and you press the right punch button/triangle. Sometimes you will see these letters in sequence which means you have to press multiple directions. df1 for example means you press down and forward and the left punch/square button. ws means "while standing". You can crouch in Tekken and when you let go in crouch, you go into a standing up animation. During this stand up, you have access to a whole new set of attacks. So ws2 means that you let go of crouch after crouching for a bit and then you press the right punch/triangle button to do a "while standing 2" attack. Those are the basics. They can be overwhelming to a newcomer and there is a lot more I didn't talk about but if you take time to learn these things (if that was your goal), you can understand them in no time. This channel is primarily aimed towards competitive play and it naturally uses competitive terminology, which can be a bit daunting for a newcomer.
He has different hit confirmable stuff in this game. Its strings and pokes youre not used to using. If you try to play him like modern bryan youll have a bad time because the character has changed immensely. This bryan is big on poking, and SUPER strong on normal hits, you actually dont want many counter hits as bryan since its usually worse outside a couple moves/strings. This bryan is actually solid. Tekken 3 bryan is easily the worst.
Nah, the weakest Bryan to date is T3 Bryan. In addition to TTT1 Bryan's issues with linearity and lacking strong lows, his combo damage was crap and he had even worse block punishment (b+1 didn't exist; he couldn't launch faster than i21 from standing, and launching in i21 required doing QCF+1 (his WS+1 from standing) as fast as possible).
@@Anicetogamer9217 Nah, T4 Bryan was definitely stronger than his T3 and TTT1 counterparts. His standing block punishment, while still subpar, wasn't quite as bad as in T3 and TTT1, as his WS+1 was sped up from i19 to i15, which buffed not only his crouching but also his standing block punishment (since you could now do QCF+1 in 17 frames), and his 4,3 became a natural string, making it a legit i12 standing punisher.. He also had high combo damage by T4 standards, disgusting okizeme, and is one of the few characters in T4 with any meaningful horizontal movement, due to his backsway. The shredding of horizontal movement in T4 also made Bryan's canned string mix-ups innately stronger.
Yep his 3 best moves in TTT1 (b+1 launcher/pressure, f,f+4 evasion, and db+2 combo filler/okizeme) didn’t exist in T3. I had to heavily rely on the f,f,f+3 blockstun combo to f,f+2, mixed with the CH f+1,2,1,2 10f jab pressure.
If you compare most of the cast's TTT1 versions to their T6, TTT2, and T7 versions, they will look incredibly weak. Compare him to the other TTT1 characters, and he's fine. He's either the bottom A-tier character or top B-tier. Half of the cast had much worse problems than what TTT1 Bryan had.
I feel like tracking attacks this far back weren't a big priority for the devs. Sidestepping as a whole was new so no one was thinking laterally when balancing the game, they were just trying to give players more movement depth in general without a lot of consideration to how the attacks were affected by the z-axis.
T3 bryan aka the incomplete bryan, TTT1 bryan was placed mid tier, he had decent combo damage but his weaknesses were block punishment, lack of tracking and lack of momentum giving lows like the mishimas had (specifically Jin and Devil), b1 and ws1 were great whiff punishers and bryan had great pokes
Ws1 was also -12 ob on top of the already broken pushback , bryan was also safe when he finished his poke strings and in some parts he was unsafe actually so u played a game of either u get punished or u get knocked down by his pokes
Bruce was a boss character in this game. He was paired with a lot of people. I don't consider bryan bad in this game, his neutral is just way different. He might as well be a different character in newer games.
1,2,1,2 isnt natural on ch, and i8, but f1,2,1,2 is. (i10)
also 1,2,1,2 and 1,2,1,4 are both safe, 1,4,3 too
He has good oki with db2 and df3 (takeroll catch)
bryan's weakest version is definitely tekken 3, where he doesnt have df4, b1, db2
thanks a lot for the info bro
@@mwkan772np bro
All though he has guarentee hit of f,f+2 after guard the running 3 (because of weird system in T3) he does considered as weakest character in T3. TTT1 was okayish
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at least his snake edge doesn't stagger xD
It was still easily launch punishable. I don’t know how - it was exactly but considering that Bryan could punish his own Snake Edge with his 19 frame WS1 (yes, it was that slow in T3), it was still quite the liability to throw out.
Snake Edge is still just as punishable in T3 (-27 or -28 on block) without the stagger.
In fact the only real benefits to having a stagger animation are:
1. Easier for opponent to recognise the stagger animation and punish.
2. Cannot continue the string anymore on block. This really nerfed Jim/Heihachi hellsweeps and Paul Bone Breaker (d+4,2), which were launch punishable in T3 IF the string wasn’t continued, but doesn’t affect Snake Edge.
Punish your mom
I don't understand what this "punish" mean in tekken lol😂
Also whats this b2 cs ws -2b4
What the heck is this
All i know is OX∆⬜
Why don't people talk like that😢
You have found yourself in the high level Tekken sphere. I will try and explain these things as simply as I can.
. A punish is basically when the opponent attacks you when you can't block. For example, let's say you use a powerful move and that powerful move doesn't hit. It either misses or it is blocked. If the opponent avoids that attack and then attacks you before you can block, that is a punish.
. Those numbers correspond to each one of your attacks. 1 = Left Punch/Square, 2 = Right Punch/Triangle, 3 = Left Kick/X, 4 = Right Kick/O. The numbers are used by the competitive community as it is simply quicker/easier to say/type than Left Punch, Right Punch and so on. If you see multiple numbers with a + inbetween each number, that means you are pressing multiple buttons at the same time. So for a simple grab, you would press 1+3, which is left punch and left kick at the same time (or Square/X if you prefer).
. The letters can mean various things. f,b,u,d all mean forward, back up and down respectively. So b2 for example, you press back (which is away from your opponent) and you press the right punch button/triangle. Sometimes you will see these letters in sequence which means you have to press multiple directions. df1 for example means you press down and forward and the left punch/square button.
ws means "while standing". You can crouch in Tekken and when you let go in crouch, you go into a standing up animation. During this stand up, you have access to a whole new set of attacks. So ws2 means that you let go of crouch after crouching for a bit and then you press the right punch/triangle button to do a "while standing 2" attack.
Those are the basics. They can be overwhelming to a newcomer and there is a lot more I didn't talk about but if you take time to learn these things (if that was your goal), you can understand them in no time. This channel is primarily aimed towards competitive play and it naturally uses competitive terminology, which can be a bit daunting for a newcomer.
Tekken tag bryant isnt that bad, you just have to play him completely different. He plays like a different character
haha
Except he was not bottom tier in TTT1. Half of the cast was lacking way more than he was. @harrikirvesniemi9685
He has different hit confirmable stuff in this game. Its strings and pokes youre not used to using. If you try to play him like modern bryan youll have a bad time because the character has changed immensely. This bryan is big on poking, and SUPER strong on normal hits, you actually dont want many counter hits as bryan since its usually worse outside a couple moves/strings. This bryan is actually solid. Tekken 3 bryan is easily the worst.
@@RurouniiJaylow tier stays at low tier doesnt matter how u play him he just stated facts in the video
@@RurouniiJayofcourse u can also win a tournament with a char that has less frame advantage but its harder thats the point and he looks weak lol🤣
this bryan still take a giant shit over prototype jack
true lol
I miss his voice acting from tekken 3, where his attacks actually felt like they had impact, like being shot with a shotgun
Nah, the weakest Bryan to date is T3 Bryan. In addition to TTT1 Bryan's issues with linearity and lacking strong lows, his combo damage was crap and he had even worse block punishment (b+1 didn't exist; he couldn't launch faster than i21 from standing, and launching in i21 required doing QCF+1 (his WS+1 from standing) as fast as possible).
I see
@harrikirvesniemi9685 The WS+1 was i19, not i15.
U guys havent see tekken 4 Bryan.....
@@Anicetogamer9217 Nah, T4 Bryan was definitely stronger than his T3 and TTT1 counterparts. His standing block punishment, while still subpar, wasn't quite as bad as in T3 and TTT1, as his WS+1 was sped up from i19 to i15, which buffed not only his crouching but also his standing block punishment (since you could now do QCF+1 in 17 frames), and his 4,3 became a natural string, making it a legit i12 standing punisher.. He also had high combo damage by T4 standards, disgusting okizeme, and is one of the few characters in T4 with any meaningful horizontal movement, due to his backsway. The shredding of horizontal movement in T4 also made Bryan's canned string mix-ups innately stronger.
Yep his 3 best moves in TTT1 (b+1 launcher/pressure, f,f+4 evasion, and db+2 combo filler/okizeme) didn’t exist in T3.
I had to heavily rely on the f,f,f+3 blockstun combo to f,f+2, mixed with the CH f+1,2,1,2 10f jab pressure.
Tag 1 balancing be like: Are you a Mishima or Ogre?
Answer if yes
Don’t answer if no
Changs were very good. i8 crazy damage CH combo starter, i10 magic 4, crazy combo damage. Elbow+shotgun very good mids.
Bruce was good, too.
Bruce was stupid good
LOL!!! You brought so memories now man! Paradoxically yes and it felt so weird 😅
Awesome video as always 👏
Keep up the great work 👍
Tekken 3 Bryan:
at least his snake edge don't stagger on block lol
If you compare most of the cast's TTT1 versions to their T6, TTT2, and T7 versions, they will look incredibly weak. Compare him to the other TTT1 characters, and he's fine. He's either the bottom A-tier character or top B-tier. Half of the cast had much worse problems than what TTT1 Bryan had.
I feel like tracking attacks this far back weren't a big priority for the devs. Sidestepping as a whole was new so no one was thinking laterally when balancing the game, they were just trying to give players more movement depth in general without a lot of consideration to how the attacks were affected by the z-axis.
damn we should have this bryan in tekken 7, minus the launching b1 on normal hit
More videos on tekken tag please if you could tell me how to beat a ogre
sure bro
i wish ther was a tk3/ttt1 voice mod for bryan
At least they got bald Bryan on tag1
B+1 is only + on block if you tag buffer it.
1212 aint NCC, but f+1212 (i10) is.
ff+4 had crazy evasion.
B1 is +5 normally
When it's tag buffered it's +8
It's always +
@@tcbbctagain572
Is it? Its been a long while; good chance I didnt remember correctly.
I cant wait to use Bryan in Tekken Force
T3 bryan aka the incomplete bryan, TTT1 bryan was placed mid tier, he had decent combo damage but his weaknesses were block punishment, lack of tracking and lack of momentum giving lows like the mishimas had (specifically Jin and Devil), b1 and ws1 were great whiff punishers and bryan had great pokes
I see
What was devil and jins momentum building low?
Hell sweep
Ws1 was also -12 ob on top of the already broken pushback , bryan was also safe when he finished his poke strings and in some parts he was unsafe actually so u played a game of either u get punished or u get knocked down by his pokes
Bruce was a boss character in this game. He was paired with a lot of people. I don't consider bryan bad in this game, his neutral is just way different. He might as well be a different character in newer games.
Looks more like proper Tekken to me.
Damn, aside from b1 being a normal hit mid launcher that's *plus* on block, Bryan kind of sucks in Tag 1.
Crazy how back then many considered him top 10, most overrated character in tekken history?
maybe
you mean not broken
Banga
Lmao damn