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The BIG problem is that after you decline a low profit offer is them throttling your dash to a snails pace forcing you into excepting whatever they throw your way..... we all know they do this. We are there to deliver goods but them saying we have platinum status and them delivering on their promise of higher paying orders is another thing. If they have your stats handy then they know they have a sucker on the line and on the hook. We're nothing but a ho to them. I've seen them do better, but will they and do they keep it up? Nope!
So in my area ( Tampa , Fl ) my neighborhood is 1/4 mile from my hot spot with ( Outback , Carrabba’s , McDonald’s, BK , Wendy’s & Pizza Hut ) but 1.5 miles away is a mall with a massive food court & more restaurants like cheese cake factory & B-Dubs too ) so I go dash now & chill at home till my 1st one , but if I wasn’t as close I would probably go sit closer
Just an FYI, I get unlimited pauses here in AZ... And it always resets back to 35 min every single time I pause it.. No clue how or why, especially with my now 13% AR.
what about uber eats sending shot to long miles with 30 scents for platinum member you want want to advertise uber eats its fine i can show in chicago busy areas it will give you 1.50 mile even its busy busy area or they willsay houlrly rate i experinced every think that bullshot uber eats suck when compare to doordash they will take care there dasher's thats real AI not suck like uber eats if option choose hourly rate they did send me waiting long hours if i cancel they give you 10 miles for 5 dollars only busy time they dont care any one even platinum they just think about to delivery all rewards of uber suck until you hit lottery and post 😜
I get those everyday. This area has an endless supply of that type of order. I will often get 10 miles for $2. I don't know how anyone keeps platinum around here, but they do. I can only imagine what orders they are taking, they have to be losing money at some point. Most orders here are less than $2 a mile, so the odds of getting a high paying order are pretty slim.
Mike, you can pause your dash as much as you want. You can pause it, let it run down to 5 min.. resume it and instantly pause again and get 35 min again. It’s unlimited.
6:44 yeah, this is the game DD plays and it's absolutely despicable that they even allow a order like that to be in their system at all, let alone offer it to a driver.
100% in my market im I have not seen a $1.75/ Mile order, best I have seen is $1.50 but 99.9% are these orders here... All Base pay no tip, they bounce around for hours until DD finally adds enough base pay for someone to grab... I have been platinum now for a month and am about to say screw my stats and try to just take good orders. I have a feeling I will end up just sitting around most of my shift though...
They don’t care. They’re about money and profit, not independent contractor’s concerns. They know they can sign up the next sucker that doesn’t know any better through their revolving door of drivers.
7:43 yes, it's definitely enabling DD, and on the flip side, a majority of the time (for me at least) declining a bad offer will result in 10-15 minutes of not receiving any offers. No joke.
Yep depends on your area..... I'm not allowed to cherry-pick otherwise I cannot Dash anytime I want.. only when they say which is usually between 2:30 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. you have to schedule and there's not a lot of open slots left to schedule
@@ranfrumjp this is why I don’t usually dash unless dash now is available. I have go to apps that allow for cherry picking between multiple apps but for me personally, DoorDash is usually the last app I look to. Everyone’s mileage may vary depending on market.
I worked hard taking everything a few months ago to get to Platinum. I still took everything to maintain platinum for a month straight, and I can definitely say that the ONLY advantage is being able to "dash now"
In my market you can Dash now regardless of your status. Even if you’re at 4.2. However, I’ve heard that there is the dash now option that allows you to Dash in grey zones
Love his channel and streams. I get the dash now and pause. I'm on the edge of 3 zones. If I don't pause it will give me offers going in the opposite direction I need to go
Hey Driver Mike. My worst DoorDash offer was this last week. $3.75 for 15.7 miles. "DECLINED". I believe that customer is still waiting on his Red Lobster order.
I have to agree with this. It was a strategy shift for me because I just tried to keep 70% but then I noticed how much easier that could be if I was just really picky about never accepting terrible terrible offers. I still take some that I would like not to, but I just got a lot stricter about dollar minimums and mileage maximum. Also locations. It started as a discussion between me and my friend where I took a half decent really long mileage trip but then like the whole following day I kept seeing these and singing long range offers that I never wanted to really see
I decided awhile ago that I’m not working for free…period! If my AR reaches zero, it means the business is not sustainable and I need to find something else to do!
You don't get 35 minutes per dash, you get 35 per pause. You can literally kust unpause and pause again to reset and it makes it so it's not possible to miss your start time and have your schedule deleted.
That 8.3 miles offer, the customer definitely is NOT tipping. We should never have to take those offers. If I receive an offer like that I decline it and pause my app ASAP. Wait 7 minutes then dash again then I start receiving better offers.
It’s out of the last 100 offers. If you decline one, it takes 100 offers for that offer to disappear. If you have a 70% AR, you have declined 30 out of the last 100 offers. It won’t become 71% until you’ve only declined 29 out of the last 100.
This is exactly what happens when you're platinum Mike I'v seen a plethora of this type of stuff. Sometimes I'll hit a streak of this type of $3 to go eight mile crap and let me tell you it's disheartening. Doordash abuses its drivers so much it's pathetic. They want you to concentrate on your AR and bite the bullet so you'll take their crappy orders. One day it could be fantastic in the next one you'd swear that they personally taken an attitude towards you! There is no loyalty to being a platinum dasher. Only plethora of dog orders
Platinum Dasher here (well ALMOST always). At the beginning you asked about dollars per hour. Most of my shifts are $20-25 per hour, sometimes 30-35. But I focus on meal times, never dashing the slow in between times - I just do 2-3 hours around lunch, or 3-4 hours around supper time. If I'm getting less than 20 I just go home and use my time better. I accept a few orders that are dollar per mile, but in my area I get enough orders that are like $6 for 1 mile or $9 for 3 miles that the bad ones are offset. My area has a business area with a dozen dashable restaurants w/i a quarter mile, and then 4 miles / 7 mins away there's another quarter mile area with 10 restaurants and 2 shop&deliver stores (CVS and dollar store). I go back and forth as orders dictate.
But it all works out you may end up getting a $3 delivery that goes 10 me but then the very next one might be a $25 one for 1.3 me..... it's a numbers game you can't look at it personally and micromanage it you have to just do it
I was driven from platinum back to gold due to the horrible offers I started receiving at platinum. Late drop offs started occurring due to the stores being crowded for the good offers. Even with me notifying the customers and DoorDash my customer rating still went down from time completion issues.
Those customer ratings really tick me off sometimes. They can give you a bad rating for no good reason, and most of the time you aren't even given a reason. I currently have 2, 1 star ratings that I did not deserve. I wonder sometimes if those bad ratings are because of restaurant wait times. Maybe people don't even understand that they aren't rating doordash, they are rating me. Customer rating shouldn't be a metric that counts toward tier levels, it's too much out of our control. DD should revamp customer ratings if they want to use those as a metric, make them more fair and transparent.
@ That’s the same issue I’ve had because ANYTIME I’ve been late was due to the stores being slow or crowded and I always communicate this…I only have one bad rating which I don’t know where it came from…I don’t even have a thumbs down on anything and even with me disputing it they denied my dispute and DD still brought my customer rating down. That customer rating has been the only thing that keeps me flip flopping between gold and platinum every few days. Maybe a dog or cat got a hold of somebody’s food after I left it…I wouldn’t know 🤣. I had a drop off where there was at least 10 cats ran up out of everywhere surrounding me meowing when I walking to an apt door one time…🤣.
Most people just see a rating and do not understand that they are rating us and not the actual place they ordered from. So we can easily get bad ratings because of order issues that are beyond our control.
8 miles for $3 is the kind of insulting crap offers that are very common in West Central Georgia. $2 for 10 miles is not uncommon at all. Anything less than $6.50 at a $1.50 per mile eats up time so you lose out on hourly rate.This is why trying to maintain a high AR around here does not make sense. Soon as you make progress they start throwing crap at you to knock your AR back down. Cherry picking is the smart approach in this area.
5:48 in the market I dash in, about 2 hours east of you, almost every order takes me outside of the power strips. There's like one MASSIVE power strip in the dead center of the zone with like 40+ restaurants and stores, so literally after every delivery I pause my dash and travel back to the power strip area and then unpause to get my next order. Keeps me from declining a ton of upside down orders and probably the only reason why I've been able to keep my AR above 70%
I'm consistently platinum but I do a lot of S&D, which are higher paying anyway. But I find that a) most S&D are low item counts which make them as quick or quicker than some restaurant pickups and b) usually fairly low miles since people are shopping their local grocery store. And the cherry on top is that there don't seem to be that many S&D drivers around so I get stacked orders very regularly. I was on two different sets of stacked orders last night, each set of them were for almost $30 and the item counts were very manageable (25 and 13 for each stack I believe). I also regularly get S&D orders of $18-23+ (highest was $37 for just 30 items) so then when I get a 2nd stacked order on top of that and the orders take less than an hour, I consistently make $22-26 pretty easily.
Ive been a platinum dasher for 6 months now and about 75% of my time is done on EBT. Average over 20hr. Ive also gotten more large orders on EBT then on EPO. I take advantage of all peak pay cause in my market almost all peak pay is during traffic. Also DD has been offering exit bonuses for leaving the zone that have been 1.00 to 3.50. im more flexible with my miles per dollar due to i do all my maintenance myself so my repair and parts cost is way less. I use Uber eats as a filler when dash is paused heading back to my zone. Ive been able to work thursday thru sunday and pull 750-1000 per week.
I have a similar experience in my area with ebt. On the other side of the coin just a little way down the road in another area that is actually more populated the ebt bad, tbh a lot of the orders there are not that great with both ways to dash. I only go there because ebt is available more and it is a bit better than by order so I can build up my acceptance rate and make a few dollars then work locally when I have Platinum where it is easier to get on ebt.
The only reason why I expect the trash orders sometimes is for a tax write off. When excepting the trash order it helps you not pay as much money in taxes at the end of the year as long as your tracking miles. I know at the time is hurts you but at the end of the year it tends to help you out from owing on taxes. Keep that in mind.
I absolutely believe they will send you orders based on what you have previously accepted. For example, most people don't want to deliver in the less safe areas in Detroit. Once in a while a good order will come through so I'll accept it and drive to Detroit and drop it off (and then immediately drive back out of Detroit before going live). Every single time I do this DoorDash will send me Detroit orders all day. If I spend a couple days rejecting Detroit orders, I stop seeing them almost entirely. It happens every time like clockwork. There have been a couple times where it gave me 2 or 3 Detroit orders in a day so I took them. In both cases the next day I basically made no money because the only orders it sent me for hours were low pay/no tip Detroit orders. Suddenly it was like none of the nearby restaurants I go to every single day had orders.
I tried out the color tiers like 6 months ago, took a bunch of crap orders to get myself to 70% AR. And then waited for a Friday night, peak dinner time, in a busy area. Got a couple of good orders and then it shot me like 6 absolute garbage orders in a row, in a matter of like 1 minute. So bad there was no way I could accept them. I might have taken a couple low paying orders if they were low mileage and could be knocked out quickly, but these were like 10+ miles for like $3-5. Immediately ruined my AR, dropped my level. I basically rage quit and swore to never take another garbage order again. So I'm definitely out of the Dasher Rewards game.
Right, if the "bad" orders they sent were at least a dollar a mile, it wouldn't be so bad. Platinum drivers are there to take the bad orders, that's the whole point.
A lot of people don’t think platinum is worth it. But in my specific area, it’s the only way to get catering orders, which can lead to $100 or more tips
I got platinum a while back and they told me I couldn't get on the large order program, because there was no need in my area. That they already had people and didn't need more. That pissed me off so much, I stopped dashing for over 4 months. The one reason to get platinum was taken away instantly
@@creatorcornerwithdevin yeah I was pissed. I do spark and instacart too, so it's not like I was missing "big" orders, but it was the principle of the matter.
@@GoldenpeaktrI don’t know about your area but spark is the worst in my area. You have to deliver to 3 customers for about 10 miles and only get paid for $12-$13. There is no way that I will do it. I don’t even take that 10 miles for $12 just one customer on DD
Here’s how to think of DD’s tactics. Keeping in mind you’re an individual contractor. Suppose a government entity put out a job for roofing a new building. The price was fixed on the low side. On bid day, 10 roofers turned it down and one finally accepted it . Would the government put out a warning to the decliners, reminding them of their falling acceptance rates? 0:01 Never happen. It would simply keep them on the list for other jobs, understanding they had a higher bar. But what would the 10 decliners think of the roofer who accepted the job and thus encouraged the practice of lowballing. I think this gives a snapshot of the business atmosphere DD is creating.
I’ve been platinum for two years. Rarely let my acceptance drop below 90. Completed at 99/100. I decline 4-5 upside down orders per week and take a few borderline orders that involve 5-10 freeway miles (no traffic). I also accept slightly upside down orders that take me somewhere I want to go anyway (busier area or personal errands) I average around $20. per hour and $2.+ per mile 🤷♀️
I started driving for Xmas for a month, I have Uber and dd, the reason I didn’t get back to platinum was because I didn’t have 100 deliveries in 30 days. But what I’ve realized is, this is actually worth it to just sit around and do nothing and be able to cherry pick Uber orders, I make way more money and don’t have to sweat accepting bad ones. When I was a platinum dasher during the slow season there were times I could make sometimes $50 an hour, but a lot of the times I would only average $25-$30 an hour and sometimes even lower. I just don’t think it’s worth keeping your stats up just so you can dash whenever you want to make $20-$25 an hour . I used to mostly dd and now I’ve only been doing Uber.
in my market it has to be 2 dollars per mile minimum cause its mostly rural, if the trip is longer than a mile, its all dead miles on the return trip cause everything is on the main road. moment you go off that road, its all rural homes and subdivisions.
Anybody else get a bad review because the customer put their order instructions in the delivery instructions. Which you don't even see until you confirm the order
That sounds right and a paid to wait fee is needed at minimum .25 cents per waiting minute for the order to be made ready instead of our dime waiting for free (our time is our money). If you hit the "I'm Not getting any delivery orders buttton (?)" They will throw you crap or near crap right away even if it makes you wait a long time for the order... but it will keep you moving or busy good or not.
I can believe it, that's why I quit dashing. I've seen worse than that as a platinum driver. The one that made me search for something better (and I found it) was an offer of $1.50 for 7 miles. I quit DD about 2 months ago and haven't looked back. I have been clearing $400 in about 9 hours with my other company, and it's been a couple of solid months. I am not going to say who they are because my life was great with DD in my area until I bragged about it.
7:38 nah, I see that said all the time online everywhere. It’s not true. I’ve never once taken an order like this. The worst I’ve ever accepted was about $5 for 4 miles on accident. I’ve never taken anything that was all the way upside down. I see upside down long orders like this every single day. 100% and I’ve never taken one. Training the algo doesn’t work for me at all.
Yes, in my market at least, which is rural mixed with rapidly expanding suburban sprawl, reserving a spot & pressing pause until you are in a good spot is a great idea. If you are out of the pick up zone the only offers you get are long distance & low paying offers that leave you miles outside of the zone again.
@@neilb9940 seen some of those two also others for about the same money but for about half a mile all the sudden people around here think you're supposed to deliver it to him for free
Pay by time in Columbia SC is routinely between $14-$15 an hour. Most Dashes take 20-30 mins. Getting $5-$7 guaranteed with 70% of orders leaving tips gets me to $20 an hour and about $1 per mile on average day.
As a trucker.... typically loads paid extremely well going to NYC.... but getting one out of NYC was mostly disappointing....... some of these characteristics do apply to Doordash. Keep in mind you will be taken out of your zone..... its gonna happen, even if you don't switch zones you can still wait or move and you will get a trip back.... maybe it's not high paying but it covers cost and gets you back free of charge
With my market I’ve noticed earn by time is the way to go, not only does it drastically increase base pay but knowing the areas that are more financially well off increases the customers that tip to at least 90%
I understand how frustrating it must be to get those kinds of offers as a Platinum driver but that is why I keep my AR higher at 82% so that I can have a buffer zone to decline those absolutely ridiculous offers. Meaning sometimes I have to bite the bullet and accept those $1 to $1.50 per mile like $5 for 3 miles. So that I can decline these ridiculous ones.
I am a Top Dashers in my area and I still get some $2 for 7 miles order I avg 17.50 to 26 an hour on what I say good days at best! I even was given a an add in order while I was in the middle of dropping off a double order which I thought they couldn’t do!! That dropped my acceptance rate by a percent point! Cause I didn’t accept it ! I called them to ask why they put that order in the middle of dropping off two orders and they gave me the we are busy and we estimate how you should be able to finish delivery to then go do another order! Than later they were not so busy and start sending me out of zone to deliver which is frustrating so Platinum is not all Roses! Yes you do get big paying orders I’ve received a $60 order but also two bad orders in a row as well so is a mix!! Keep my acceptance rate over 80 percent
You don’t want to pause a dash because the pause function after you make a delivery will stay paused without you knowing it until you find out eventually that your not getting any delivery request because your offline 1:33
I’m platinum and I feel lower than the new guys. I think they should have priority based on lifetime deliveries. Or send better offers to platinum dashers. I feel like the low man on the totem pole.
Top dasher doesn't guarantee ONLY high pay orders. It will send what's available in the system. Given that, by most platforms own admission, 40-45% of orders don't tip. Platinum really only puts a driver in priority position to get orders during slower periods
They offer those offers all the time to play it in them Dashers especially when you're close to 70% acceptance rate they do this because they know you'll accept it because if you don't you're going to go below 70 and you're going to be gold and you're not going to be able to just try whenever you want
This happened to me yesterday, luckily my area had Earn by time available, so i switched to that… in this instance (football sunday & holiday season), I was able to bring up my AR & had some longer mileage dashes than I prefer, and thankfully most of those customers tipped extra - cash at the door or onto app afterwards. I’ll do it again today and see if I have any consistency. I’m super cautiously optimistic 😂
I’ve seen $3 - $5 offers for 22 miles in my market. I’m not risking that type of mileage and time for that type of trash offer. Lot of DD customers take advantage of DD drivers that don’t know any better or they’re just dumb.
I have 2000 deliveries. My app recently started showing me the exact amount of tips for each order. For example, it will say $7.25, 3.6 miles, $5.25 customer tips included. Anyone else seeing this?
I have been at all three levels at different times and I see no difference in the offers. Not a single bit of difference. I am looking for version two also sooner than later and I am in San Diego and I have yet to see any changes.
That's pretty bad. It's rare, but I get days like that now and then. I go online at 4:30 pm, and sometimes I'll have to wait 30 or 40 minutes to get a good order. Sometimes the orders just stop at 8pm, and after 2 hours of that I finally give up and log out.
I totally understand why he paused. It doesn't pay to receive crappy orders you don't want, and knowing you're going to decline because of your location. Plus, i don't know about your area, but we can pause for 35 minutes, all day.
I worked to get to Platinum and got spoiled with Dash Now. I lost Platinum and got back to it. For my life, being able to Dash when I want is worth it.
7:25 i 100% believe w/e offers you accept will add to your stats and they will prioritize your upcoming offers base on those stats. this is 100% bad for EBT and plat offers. if you accept a no tip offer b.c your on EBT and don't kno their not giving you a tip or if your forced to accept it b.c of your AR. you will see more offers from that customer. what's even worse if a not tip customer give you a good review, it's over. you will see their offer every time they order and your dashing. this works the same way with the customer neighborhood. you will continue to get offers from that neighborhood once you built up stats for that neighborhood. this is why it's so important to give a quality service to customers that tip. now the real question does these stats roll off every 100 dashes? i think they do not.
Restaurants and Doordash should limit the mile ratio from A to B, Doordash should implement a system where every order is sent to the right (A) restaurant in the 1-5-10 mile ratio depending on the restaurant so (B) drop off location can be the closest location from (A) restaurant, just like a system like schools have district or location or ext.
I was a platinum dasher about 8 months ago and these were the exact trash offers I was getting, since then I'm in the 20% AR and I'm so glad I no longer care about this as it was really holding me back from making money. I make the exact same money I did when I was a platinum dasher without the hassle of keeping the AR up, I pick the orders that make sense to me now.
Hey Mike, I am in Carlisle, Pa. And for like a 6 hr shift I average about $1.25 a mile. Average per is $7.00. If I decline I will not be working. I get about 3 high pays. I have a 91% acceptance. DoorDash need to up their pay for people with high acceptance. And bonus pay sucks here.
This is my experience. I may ‘need’ to take the occasional bad order, but if I accept two in a row, it seems the algorithm ‘knows’ I’m working on upping my AR, and it decides I’m willing to be the garbage disposal. My method around this is to do an Earn by Time shift or two, and typically I can up my AR by enough points that I can have wiggle room later to Dash per order & decline the rotten ones. I’m definitely still learning, tho. Platinum dasher, been working since Dec 2023 & have 995 lifetime dashes. Thank you for your channel!
In my area, there are 2 cities nearby whose people always order from my zone. The deliveries are anywhere from 8-14 miles. They rarely tip. It's impossible to be platinum in my area!
I have never been Platinum status before. So I was excited to be close and followed Traders advice and stayed Platinum. The $2 or $3 orders (Not add-ons) still pop up on a 5 hour shift delivering 1.5-3 miles away. The only good order I have gotten since being platinum was a $16 Walgreens shop for alcohol but there was a catch it was a 9 mile delivery. It seems like I'm not sitting around like I use to and I'm getting more $6-$9 deliveries but idk if its cause of Christmas tips or less delivery drivers and more deliveries. The weather has been cold & rainy which makes it busier. I'll have to look at my earnings from last month to this month. Oh I have noticed about once a night or every other night I get a delivery with the +sign or at least 1 good order with low miles.
I've gotten an offer of $3 for 14 miles stopping at two pizza places. No way. What pissed me off was that it took five orders to up my AR from 69 to 70; but, one decline knocked me down from 71 to 68. Games.
You guys always account for the dollar to mile ratio but you don't consider the fact that you are trying to work a power strip, so if you are taking an order for 10.00 that goes 5miles out but you are actually driving 10 miles to get back to the location for orders. Additionally, I'm a plat driver and they'll spam you with 2, 3, 4 dollar orders anyway.
Just dashed for the first time yesterday after a 6 month hiatus. Still gold, AR was 78%. I got 2 really good shopping orders, then.... $3.25 17 miles $4.50 8 miles $11 10 miles $7 4 miles $2 6 miles $4 16 miles This is by far the worst set of orders I have ever seen. I'd be lucky to break $10 an hour if I accepted everything, let alone $20.
Been dashing for close to 4 years and I pause a lot to do orders on other platforms. Go live and pause again and the timer always starts over at 35 minutes. I get as much pause time as I want during my shifts
I have noticed that platinum is just a way to get us to take “upside down” orders … not every time but when you get close to 70% you will take it to keep platinum. Make it easier to be platinum…. Have more platinum dashers to be forced into taking these orders … and the ideal of rotating out accepts and decline just makes it more one sided with how many it takes to build up your ar. I fight this everyday because half our market doesn’t tip at all and many are dashers themselves.. I took a 3.75$ for 8 miles and was given a penny .. yup .01$
These are very common in my market. $3 for 8-12 miles. I can never be a platinum driver on v1 because it is impossible to have an acceptance rate above 23% unless you like paying people to deliver their food
If you pause your dash then do a delivery the 35 minutes starts all over... if you pause then get and order, decline and pause again... it starts all over. You have to try to use the 35 minutes
We have to keep an 80% acceptance rate to be platinum tiered in my city and it's so frustrating. Before I reached gold, the app would send me absolute garbage offers and I had to accept them to build my AR back up. Some days I wouldn't get a single offer in 4 hours, smh.
I denied an order today that was 2.50 for 8.7 miles from mcdonald's , thats just insulting. I'm almost convinced that after you reach platinum that the algorithm tries to screw you over , to see what you will bend over and take it
I have never been under 70% and for the first time I’m at 69%. The orders are just so bad that I have to deny multiple before I get a good one. A lot of what I’m seeing is $10 for 10.5 miles. With traffic that’s 10 for that hour… it’s not worth it anymore.
No like if you don't hit pause it will send you to one of those neighborhood restaurants where you don't want to go to where you're typically looking at no tip on the back end delivering to shady parts of the city. So it's good to always pause after you deliver so you could travel all the way back to your strip
I did that.Door dash brought a 30 day time lapse I know.For every 39 days the sr is calculated.Ive been at 85 %for weeks,and didn't get a promotion Now I haven't cashed in three months ,and my ratings haven't changed.I used to see 70%alot ,but then after DD started a thirty day I have seen deliveries in a dash disappear like someone is taking deliveries away..😊
Platinum dasher be having me raging bro. They give bad orders like $5 for 7 miles, etc. Im fed up with keeping my acceptance rate, and losing money at the same time. Its very frustrating
Hey there! Something isn't working for DD. Their high AR model doesn't work as they thought it would. Here in Northern Jersey they offer a $900 referral and $600 to referred new dasher when they complete 290 deliveries in 60 days. Today, Friday I made $200 on UE delivering $3+ per mile offers and only $7 on DD. What a stupid concept they have in place. Zones is another stupid thing. Two years ago there was a waiting list for new dashers. Now they offer $900 just to enslave another sole.
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The BIG problem is that after you decline a low profit offer is them throttling your dash to a snails pace forcing you into excepting whatever they throw your way..... we all know they do this. We are there to deliver goods but them saying we have platinum status and them delivering on their promise of higher paying orders is another thing. If they have your stats handy then they know they have a sucker on the line and on the hook. We're nothing but a ho to them. I've seen them do better, but will they and do they keep it up? Nope!
So in my area ( Tampa , Fl ) my neighborhood is 1/4 mile from my hot spot with ( Outback , Carrabba’s , McDonald’s, BK , Wendy’s & Pizza Hut ) but 1.5 miles away is a mall with a massive food court & more restaurants like cheese cake factory & B-Dubs too ) so I go dash now & chill at home till my 1st one , but if I wasn’t as close I would probably go sit closer
Just an FYI, I get unlimited pauses here in AZ... And it always resets back to 35 min every single time I pause it.. No clue how or why, especially with my now 13% AR.
what about uber eats sending shot to long miles with 30 scents for platinum member you want want to advertise uber eats its fine i can show in chicago busy areas it will give you 1.50 mile even its busy busy area or they willsay houlrly rate i experinced every think that bullshot uber eats suck when compare to doordash they will take care there dasher's thats real AI not suck like uber eats if option choose hourly rate they did send me waiting long hours if i cancel they give you 10 miles for 5 dollars only busy time they dont care any one even platinum they just think about to delivery all rewards of uber suck until you hit lottery and post 😜
As a platium dasher I got an offer for 4.25 for 14.5km
I have gotten a Order $4 for 16 miles. That's basically I'm paying the customer to bring their food to them.
I get those everyday. This area has an endless supply of that type of order. I will often get 10 miles for $2. I don't know how anyone keeps platinum around here, but they do. I can only imagine what orders they are taking, they have to be losing money at some point. Most orders here are less than $2 a mile, so the odds of getting a high paying order are pretty slim.
Realistically it's more you're paying DoorDash since the customer is also paying ridiculous fees
@@nocturnus6 Do you have order by time available? I had 2 crappy orders. Changed to earn by time & got 2 decent orders last night.
Did you take it 😛
This is exactly what I say when I see those type orders😂
Mike, you can pause your dash as much as you want. You can pause it, let it run down to 5 min.. resume it and instantly pause again and get 35 min again. It’s unlimited.
6:44 yeah, this is the game DD plays and it's absolutely despicable that they even allow a order like that to be in their system at all, let alone offer it to a driver.
100% in my market im I have not seen a $1.75/ Mile order, best I have seen is $1.50 but 99.9% are these orders here... All Base pay no tip, they bounce around for hours until DD finally adds enough base pay for someone to grab... I have been platinum now for a month and am about to say screw my stats and try to just take good orders. I have a feeling I will end up just sitting around most of my shift though...
Bro sometimes they combo that order with another bad one and send it back to u, furthering to drop ur acceptance rating
They don’t care. They’re about money and profit, not independent contractor’s concerns. They know they can sign up the next sucker that doesn’t know any better through their revolving door of drivers.
I hit dashnow from my crib i wont leave until i get an order 😂
That’s how i start every morning haha
Yep
Bro I do same thing hahah
Hit while on the John all the time.😂
It's the best when you can do it this way!
7:43 yes, it's definitely enabling DD, and on the flip side, a majority of the time (for me at least) declining a bad offer will result in 10-15 minutes of not receiving any offers. No joke.
When it's that slow you have to multi app
This is why multi apping and cherry picking is the only way to go
As long as they let you do it.
Yep depends on your area..... I'm not allowed to cherry-pick otherwise I cannot Dash anytime I want.. only when they say which is usually between 2:30 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. you have to schedule and there's not a lot of open slots left to schedule
@@ranfrumjp this is why I don’t usually dash unless dash now is available. I have go to apps that allow for cherry picking between multiple apps but for me personally, DoorDash is usually the last app I look to. Everyone’s mileage may vary depending on market.
I worked hard taking everything a few months ago to get to Platinum. I still took everything to maintain platinum for a month straight, and I can definitely say that the ONLY advantage is being able to "dash now"
Literally and now you cant even have it anymore
Or maybe your market for doordash in your city is not good even on plat find another app
In my market you can Dash now regardless of your status. Even if you’re at 4.2. However, I’ve heard that there is the dash now option that allows you to Dash in grey zones
Love his channel and streams. I get the dash now and pause. I'm on the edge of 3 zones. If I don't pause it will give me offers going in the opposite direction I need to go
I had a 0% AR for 2 weeks in a row. I will never do another Door dash ever in life. DD is a predatory disgusting company.
they count on there being an endless supply of desperate people
Tell your story. what happened to you?
Hey Driver Mike. My worst DoorDash offer was this last week. $3.75 for 15.7 miles. "DECLINED". I believe that customer is still waiting on his Red Lobster order.
If you accept the crap they will continue to send the crap 100%.
I have to agree with this. It was a strategy shift for me because I just tried to keep 70% but then I noticed how much easier that could be if I was just really picky about never accepting terrible terrible offers.
I still take some that I would like not to, but I just got a lot stricter about dollar minimums and mileage maximum. Also locations.
It started as a discussion between me and my friend where I took a half decent really long mileage trip but then like the whole following day I kept seeing these and singing long range offers that I never wanted to really see
I decided awhile ago that I’m not working for free…period! If my AR reaches zero, it means the business is not sustainable and I need to find something else to do!
Agreed i have a 5 % ar im a cherry picker
the business is not sustainable
You don't get 35 minutes per dash, you get 35 per pause. You can literally kust unpause and pause again to reset and it makes it so it's not possible to miss your start time and have your schedule deleted.
That 8.3 miles offer, the customer definitely is NOT tipping. We should never have to take those offers. If I receive an offer like that I decline it and pause my app ASAP. Wait 7 minutes then dash again then I start receiving better offers.
Here in my state, if you decline one order, you lose 1% of your AR, and it takes four deliveries to gain a % point.
It’s out of the last 100 offers. If you decline one, it takes 100 offers for that offer to disappear. If you have a 70% AR, you have declined 30 out of the last 100 offers. It won’t become 71% until you’ve only declined 29 out of the last 100.
All I know is I'm happy to see my boy Dashing Trader gets some love. Homie been grinding 🙌
This is exactly what happens when you're platinum Mike I'v seen a plethora of this type of stuff. Sometimes I'll hit a streak of this type of $3 to go eight mile crap and let me tell you it's disheartening. Doordash abuses its drivers so much it's pathetic.
They want you to concentrate on your AR and bite the bullet so you'll take their crappy orders.
One day it could be fantastic in the next one you'd swear that they personally taken an attitude towards you!
There is no loyalty to being a platinum dasher. Only plethora of dog orders
Platinum Dasher here (well ALMOST always). At the beginning you asked about dollars per hour. Most of my shifts are $20-25 per hour, sometimes 30-35. But I focus on meal times, never dashing the slow in between times - I just do 2-3 hours around lunch, or 3-4 hours around supper time. If I'm getting less than 20 I just go home and use my time better.
I accept a few orders that are dollar per mile, but in my area I get enough orders that are like $6 for 1 mile or $9 for 3 miles that the bad ones are offset.
My area has a business area with a dozen dashable restaurants w/i a quarter mile, and then 4 miles / 7 mins away there's another quarter mile area with 10 restaurants and 2 shop&deliver stores (CVS and dollar store). I go back and forth as orders dictate.
Must be nice
Great Review Mike Thanks for the Shout out!
Yesssir💯
After you hit resume you get a fresh 35 minutes
Didn’t used to be that way waaaay back in the beginning. Now it is though so it does not matter anyway
Accepting every order gets you taken advantage of.
yea ur wasting ur time taking the bad orders while the ppl declining them are getting the good ones
But it all works out you may end up getting a $3 delivery that goes 10 me but then the very next one might be a $25 one for 1.3 me..... it's a numbers game you can't look at it personally and micromanage it you have to just do it
@@ranfrumjp yea but u could waste ur time and money for 2$ or just decline it and get a better paying one
Correct at 71 percent , most of your 100 orders are accepts so it’s harder to increase your AR the higher u get ..DD know what they doing lol
I was driven from platinum back to gold due to the horrible offers I started receiving at platinum. Late drop offs started occurring due to the stores being crowded for the good offers. Even with me notifying the customers and DoorDash my customer rating still went down from time completion issues.
Those customer ratings really tick me off sometimes. They can give you a bad rating for no good reason, and most of the time you aren't even given a reason. I currently have 2, 1 star ratings that I did not deserve. I wonder sometimes if those bad ratings are because of restaurant wait times. Maybe people don't even understand that they aren't rating doordash, they are rating me.
Customer rating shouldn't be a metric that counts toward tier levels, it's too much out of our control. DD should revamp customer ratings if they want to use those as a metric, make them more fair and transparent.
@ That’s the same issue I’ve had because ANYTIME I’ve been late was due to the stores being slow or crowded and I always communicate this…I only have one bad rating which I don’t know where it came from…I don’t even have a thumbs down on anything and even with me disputing it they denied my dispute and DD still brought my customer rating down. That customer rating has been the only thing that keeps me flip flopping between gold and platinum every few days. Maybe a dog or cat got a hold of somebody’s food after I left it…I wouldn’t know 🤣. I had a drop off where there was at least 10 cats ran up out of everywhere surrounding me meowing when I walking to an apt door one time…🤣.
Most people just see a rating and do not understand that they are rating us and not the actual place they ordered from. So we can easily get bad ratings because of order issues that are beyond our control.
8 miles for $3 is the kind of insulting crap offers that are very common in West Central Georgia. $2 for 10 miles is not uncommon at all. Anything less than $6.50 at a $1.50 per mile eats up time so you lose out on hourly rate.This is why trying to maintain a high AR around here does not make sense. Soon as you make progress they start throwing crap at you to knock your AR back down. Cherry picking is the smart approach in this area.
I agree that it's deliberate..I think it's around 84-85% is when I start seeing the really ridiculous offers
5:48 in the market I dash in, about 2 hours east of you, almost every order takes me outside of the power strips. There's like one MASSIVE power strip in the dead center of the zone with like 40+ restaurants and stores, so literally after every delivery I pause my dash and travel back to the power strip area and then unpause to get my next order. Keeps me from declining a ton of upside down orders and probably the only reason why I've been able to keep my AR above 70%
I'm consistently platinum but I do a lot of S&D, which are higher paying anyway. But I find that a) most S&D are low item counts which make them as quick or quicker than some restaurant pickups and b) usually fairly low miles since people are shopping their local grocery store. And the cherry on top is that there don't seem to be that many S&D drivers around so I get stacked orders very regularly. I was on two different sets of stacked orders last night, each set of them were for almost $30 and the item counts were very manageable (25 and 13 for each stack I believe). I also regularly get S&D orders of $18-23+ (highest was $37 for just 30 items) so then when I get a 2nd stacked order on top of that and the orders take less than an hour, I consistently make $22-26 pretty easily.
Ive been a platinum dasher for 6 months now and about 75% of my time is done on EBT. Average over 20hr. Ive also gotten more large orders on EBT then on EPO. I take advantage of all peak pay cause in my market almost all peak pay is during traffic. Also DD has been offering exit bonuses for leaving the zone that have been 1.00 to 3.50. im more flexible with my miles per dollar due to i do all my maintenance myself so my repair and parts cost is way less. I use Uber eats as a filler when dash is paused heading back to my zone. Ive been able to work thursday thru sunday and pull 750-1000 per week.
Same. I just work Monday to Friday 7am to 2pm.
I have a similar experience in my area with ebt. On the other side of the coin just a little way down the road in another area that is actually more populated the ebt bad, tbh a lot of the orders there are not that great with both ways to dash. I only go there because ebt is available more and it is a bit better than by order so I can build up my acceptance rate and make a few dollars then work locally when I have Platinum where it is easier to get on ebt.
The only reason why I expect the trash orders sometimes is for a tax write off. When excepting the trash order it helps you not pay as much money in taxes at the end of the year as long as your tracking miles. I know at the time is hurts you but at the end of the year it tends to help you out from owing on taxes. Keep that in mind.
Accept and accepting is the spelling
I absolutely believe they will send you orders based on what you have previously accepted. For example, most people don't want to deliver in the less safe areas in Detroit. Once in a while a good order will come through so I'll accept it and drive to Detroit and drop it off (and then immediately drive back out of Detroit before going live). Every single time I do this DoorDash will send me Detroit orders all day. If I spend a couple days rejecting Detroit orders, I stop seeing them almost entirely. It happens every time like clockwork. There have been a couple times where it gave me 2 or 3 Detroit orders in a day so I took them. In both cases the next day I basically made no money because the only orders it sent me for hours were low pay/no tip Detroit orders. Suddenly it was like none of the nearby restaurants I go to every single day had orders.
I tried out the color tiers like 6 months ago, took a bunch of crap orders to get myself to 70% AR. And then waited for a Friday night, peak dinner time, in a busy area. Got a couple of good orders and then it shot me like 6 absolute garbage orders in a row, in a matter of like 1 minute. So bad there was no way I could accept them. I might have taken a couple low paying orders if they were low mileage and could be knocked out quickly, but these were like 10+ miles for like $3-5. Immediately ruined my AR, dropped my level. I basically rage quit and swore to never take another garbage order again. So I'm definitely out of the Dasher Rewards game.
Right, if the "bad" orders they sent were at least a dollar a mile, it wouldn't be so bad. Platinum drivers are there to take the bad orders, that's the whole point.
I live close to numerous restaurants so I log on at home and almost always get orders without leaving my driveway
A lot of people don’t think platinum is worth it. But in my specific area, it’s the only way to get catering orders, which can lead to $100 or more tips
I got platinum a while back and they told me I couldn't get on the large order program, because there was no need in my area. That they already had people and didn't need more.
That pissed me off so much, I stopped dashing for over 4 months. The one reason to get platinum was taken away instantly
@ yeah the demand for them are really rare. Even I only get it once a week. Usually only businesses buy them
@@creatorcornerwithdevin yeah I was pissed. I do spark and instacart too, so it's not like I was missing "big" orders, but it was the principle of the matter.
@@GoldenpeaktrI don’t know about your area but spark is the worst in my area. You have to deliver to 3 customers for about 10 miles and only get paid for $12-$13. There is no way that I will do it. I don’t even take that 10 miles for $12 just one customer on DD
Here’s how to think of DD’s tactics. Keeping in mind you’re an individual contractor. Suppose a government entity put out a job for roofing a new building. The price was fixed on the low side. On bid day, 10 roofers turned it down and one finally accepted it . Would the government put out a warning to the decliners, reminding them of their falling acceptance rates? 0:01 Never happen. It would simply keep them on the list for other jobs, understanding they had a higher bar. But what would the 10 decliners think of the roofer who accepted the job and thus encouraged the practice of lowballing. I think this gives a snapshot of the business atmosphere DD is creating.
I’ve been platinum for two years. Rarely let my acceptance drop below 90. Completed at 99/100.
I decline 4-5 upside down orders per week and take a few borderline orders that involve 5-10 freeway miles (no traffic). I also accept slightly upside down orders that take me somewhere I want to go anyway (busier area or personal errands)
I average around $20. per hour and $2.+ per mile
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I started driving for Xmas for a month, I have Uber and dd, the reason I didn’t get back to platinum was because I didn’t have 100 deliveries in 30 days. But what I’ve realized is, this is actually worth it to just sit around and do nothing and be able to cherry pick Uber orders, I make way more money and don’t have to sweat accepting bad ones. When I was a platinum dasher during the slow season there were times I could make sometimes $50 an hour, but a lot of the times I would only average $25-$30 an hour and sometimes even lower. I just don’t think it’s worth keeping your stats up just so you can dash whenever you want to make $20-$25 an hour . I used to mostly dd and now I’ve only been doing Uber.
in my market it has to be 2 dollars per mile minimum cause its mostly rural, if the trip is longer than a mile, its all dead miles on the return trip cause everything is on the main road. moment you go off that road, its all rural homes and subdivisions.
Anybody else get a bad review because the customer put their order instructions in the delivery instructions. Which you don't even see until you confirm the order
I feel like orders with a platinum badge should be $6 minimum
That sounds right and a paid to wait fee is needed at minimum .25 cents per waiting minute for the order to be made ready instead of our dime waiting for free (our time is our money). If you hit the "I'm Not getting any delivery orders buttton (?)" They will throw you crap or near crap right away even if it makes you wait a long time for the order... but it will keep you moving or busy good or not.
6.
Dollars ? You're gonna have to drive 120 miles for that.😂😂
I can believe it, that's why I quit dashing. I've seen worse than that as a platinum driver. The one that made me search for something better (and I found it) was an offer of $1.50 for 7 miles. I quit DD about 2 months ago and haven't looked back. I have been clearing $400 in about 9 hours with my other company, and it's been a couple of solid months. I am not going to say who they are because my life was great with DD in my area until I bragged about it.
DD hits us hard when we are at risk of losing platinum. They bully us into taking this garbage
I agree! I just lived through it!
7:38 nah, I see that said all the time online everywhere. It’s not true. I’ve never once taken an order like this. The worst I’ve ever accepted was about $5 for 4 miles on accident. I’ve never taken anything that was all the way upside down. I see upside down long orders like this every single day. 100% and I’ve never taken one. Training the algo doesn’t work for me at all.
Yes, in my market at least, which is rural mixed with rapidly expanding suburban sprawl, reserving a spot & pressing pause until you are in a good spot is a great idea. If you are out of the pick up zone the only offers you get are long distance & low paying offers that leave you miles outside of the zone again.
A few months back I had a $3 for 45 miles offer come through on Uber eats!
@@neilb9940 seen some of those two also others for about the same money but for about half a mile all the sudden people around here think you're supposed to deliver it to him for free
Pay by time in Columbia SC is routinely between $14-$15 an hour. Most Dashes take 20-30 mins. Getting $5-$7 guaranteed with 70% of orders leaving tips gets me to $20 an hour and about $1 per mile on average day.
As a trucker.... typically loads paid extremely well going to NYC.... but getting one out of NYC was mostly disappointing....... some of these characteristics do apply to Doordash. Keep in mind you will be taken out of your zone..... its gonna happen, even if you don't switch zones you can still wait or move and you will get a trip back.... maybe it's not high paying but it covers cost and gets you back free of charge
With my market I’ve noticed earn by time is the way to go, not only does it drastically increase base pay but knowing the areas that are more financially well off increases the customers that tip to at least 90%
Can’t believe Door dash still has drivers😅😅
Why not I’m making $200 consistently daily… I only work from 10:30am-2:00pm then 4:30pm-8:30pm then I’m done… even with my AR is only 15%…
Earn by time with platinum in my area is worth it blew my cherry picking days out of the water in terms of earnings and time and headaches
I understand how frustrating it must be to get those kinds of offers as a Platinum driver but that is why I keep my AR higher at 82% so that I can have a buffer zone to decline those absolutely ridiculous offers. Meaning sometimes I have to bite the bullet and accept those $1 to $1.50 per mile like $5 for 3 miles. So that I can decline these ridiculous ones.
Same!
My acceptance rate varies from 0-4%. Yes you can have a 0% acceptance rate 😂😂
Yeah but it also means you haven’t made any money in 100 offers. How long does it take to get 100 offers?
@cantgetright742 I recieve hundreds a shift. I'm in major city they flock in
Super helpful and straight to the point... This is what I needed to watch before I start dashing
The past month I’ve been getting $2 orders consecutively from DD. It will be 11.3 miles for $2 including tip!
I saw one the other day $2 for 21.1 miles 😮 It's ridiculous!
I am a Top Dashers in my area and I still get some $2 for 7 miles order I avg
17.50 to 26 an hour on what I say good days at best! I even was given a an add in order while I was in the middle of dropping off a double order which I thought they couldn’t do!! That dropped my acceptance rate by a percent point! Cause I didn’t accept it ! I called them to ask why they put that order in the middle of dropping off two orders and they gave me the we are busy and we estimate how you should be able to finish delivery to then go do another order! Than later they were not so busy and start sending me out of zone to deliver which is frustrating so Platinum is not all Roses! Yes you do get big paying orders I’ve received a $60 order but also two bad orders in a row as well so is a mix!! Keep my acceptance rate over 80 percent
You don’t want to pause a dash because the pause function after you make a delivery will stay paused without you knowing it until you find out eventually that your not getting any delivery request because your offline 1:33
I did a 10min drive with a 2$ offer, how that can send those order to platinum driver
I’m platinum and I feel lower than the new guys. I think they should have priority based on lifetime deliveries. Or send better offers to platinum dashers. I feel like the low man on the totem pole.
Totally agree. I've made 22500 deliveries and still get trash sent to me.
Top dasher doesn't guarantee ONLY high pay orders. It will send what's available in the system. Given that, by most platforms own admission, 40-45% of orders don't tip. Platinum really only puts a driver in priority position to get orders during slower periods
They offer those offers all the time to play it in them Dashers especially when you're close to 70% acceptance rate they do this because they know you'll accept it because if you don't you're going to go below 70 and you're going to be gold and you're not going to be able to just try whenever you want
This happened to me yesterday, luckily my area had Earn by time available, so i switched to that… in this instance (football sunday & holiday season), I was able to bring up my AR & had some longer mileage dashes than I prefer, and thankfully most of those customers tipped extra - cash at the door or onto app afterwards.
I’ll do it again today and see if I have any consistency. I’m super cautiously optimistic 😂
My market is small we only have 2 power strips most orders take you away from them i always double my miles when looking at offers
I’ve seen $3 - $5 offers for 22 miles in my market. I’m not risking that type of mileage and time for that type of trash offer. Lot of DD customers take advantage of DD drivers that don’t know any better or they’re just dumb.
Im platinum, I only turn down upside down orders. 70% is easy to maintain. Average over $20 an hr
They need to have a minimum tip for big orders. Someone order $45 worth of food and no tip
I have 2000 deliveries. My app recently started showing me the exact amount of tips for each order. For example, it will say $7.25, 3.6 miles, $5.25 customer tips included. Anyone else seeing this?
I’m one percent just had a catering order sent to me
I have been at all three levels at different times and I see no difference in the offers. Not a single bit of difference. I am looking for version two also sooner than later and I am in San Diego and I have yet to see any changes.
I go online at 8 am and usually dont start until 10 am 😂
That's pretty bad. It's rare, but I get days like that now and then. I go online at 4:30 pm, and sometimes I'll have to wait 30 or 40 minutes to get a good order. Sometimes the orders just stop at 8pm, and after 2 hours of that I finally give up and log out.
That first “power strip” he mentioned is almost ALL restaurants I avoid bc they take sooo long and the tips are never good
I totally understand why he paused. It doesn't pay to receive crappy orders you don't want, and knowing you're going to decline because of your location. Plus, i don't know about your area, but we can pause for 35 minutes, all day.
But Doordash lies about the miles in my area. That sucks!
I worked to get to Platinum and got spoiled with Dash Now. I lost Platinum and got back to it. For my life, being able to Dash when I want is worth it.
That's why I use Uber eats. Every day is dash now more or less
7:25 i 100% believe w/e offers you accept will add to your stats and they will prioritize your upcoming offers base on those stats. this is 100% bad for EBT and plat offers. if you accept a no tip offer b.c your on EBT and don't kno their not giving you a tip or if your forced to accept it b.c of your AR. you will see more offers from that customer. what's even worse if a not tip customer give you a good review, it's over. you will see their offer every time they order and your dashing. this works the same way with the customer neighborhood. you will continue to get offers from that neighborhood once you built up stats for that neighborhood. this is why it's so important to give a quality service to customers that tip. now the real question does these stats roll off every 100 dashes? i think they do not.
Restaurants and Doordash should limit the mile ratio from A to B, Doordash should implement a system where every order is sent to the right (A) restaurant in the 1-5-10 mile ratio depending on the restaurant so (B) drop off location can be the closest location from (A) restaurant, just like a system like schools have district or location or ext.
The other factor is how many other platinum dashers with higher stats that are in his market at that time
I was a platinum dasher about 8 months ago and these were the exact trash offers I was getting, since then I'm in the 20% AR and I'm so glad I no longer care about this as it was really holding me back from making money. I make the exact same money I did when I was a platinum dasher without the hassle of keeping the AR up, I pick the orders that make sense to me now.
Do you feel like you are being blackmailed into accepting terrible offers to maintain your platinum status?
Hey Mike, I am in Carlisle, Pa. And for like a 6 hr shift I average about $1.25 a mile. Average per is $7.00. If I decline I will not be working. I get about 3 high pays. I have a 91% acceptance. DoorDash need to up their pay for people with high acceptance. And bonus pay sucks here.
Yes i really think the algorithm knows what orders you take and will continue to send awful orders if you continue to take them
This is my experience. I may ‘need’ to take the occasional bad order, but if I accept two in a row, it seems the algorithm ‘knows’ I’m working on upping my AR, and it decides I’m willing to be the garbage disposal.
My method around this is to do an Earn by Time shift or two, and typically I can up my AR by enough points that I can have wiggle room later to Dash per order & decline the rotten ones.
I’m definitely still learning, tho. Platinum dasher, been working since Dec 2023 & have 995 lifetime dashes.
Thank you for your channel!
In my area, there are 2 cities nearby whose people always order from my zone. The deliveries are anywhere from 8-14 miles. They rarely tip. It's impossible to be platinum in my area!
I multiply the miles by 2 because i gotta drive back from the delivery. So that $7.00 for 4.4 miles is actually $7.00 for 8.8 miles in my book
I have never been Platinum status before.
So I was excited to be close and followed Traders advice and stayed Platinum.
The $2 or $3 orders
(Not add-ons) still pop up on a 5 hour shift delivering 1.5-3 miles away.
The only good order I have gotten since being platinum was a $16 Walgreens shop for alcohol but there was a catch it was a 9 mile delivery.
It seems like I'm not sitting around like I use to and I'm getting more $6-$9 deliveries but idk if its cause of Christmas tips or less delivery drivers and more deliveries.
The weather has been cold & rainy which makes it busier.
I'll have to look at my earnings from last month to this month.
Oh I have noticed about once a night or every other night I get a delivery with the +sign or at least 1 good order with low miles.
I've gotten an offer of $3 for 14 miles stopping at two pizza places. No way. What pissed me off was that it took five orders to up my AR from 69 to 70; but, one decline knocked me down from 71 to 68. Games.
You guys always account for the dollar to mile ratio but you don't consider the fact that you are trying to work a power strip, so if you are taking an order for 10.00 that goes 5miles out but you are actually driving 10 miles to get back to the location for orders. Additionally, I'm a plat driver and they'll spam you with 2, 3, 4 dollar orders anyway.
Just dashed for the first time yesterday after a 6 month hiatus. Still gold, AR was 78%. I got 2 really good shopping orders, then....
$3.25 17 miles
$4.50 8 miles
$11 10 miles
$7 4 miles
$2 6 miles
$4 16 miles
This is by far the worst set of orders I have ever seen. I'd be lucky to break $10 an hour if I accepted everything, let alone $20.
$7 for 4 miles is considered a great order here, the other ones you listed are terrible, agreed.
Been dashing for close to 4 years and I pause a lot to do orders on other platforms. Go live and pause again and the timer always starts over at 35 minutes. I get as much pause time as I want during my shifts
1 problem is that they have zones and then give u orders 20 miles away that takes you into next county or city
I believe you get whatever order is next in line. I have high ratings and receive nothing but a bunch of crap. It's is next available order!
I have noticed that platinum is just a way to get us to take “upside down” orders … not every time but when you get close to 70% you will take it to keep platinum. Make it easier to be platinum…. Have more platinum dashers to be forced into taking these orders … and the ideal of rotating out accepts and decline just makes it more one sided with how many it takes to build up your ar. I fight this everyday because half our market doesn’t tip at all and many are dashers themselves.. I took a 3.75$ for 8 miles and was given a penny .. yup .01$
These are very common in my market. $3 for 8-12 miles.
I can never be a platinum driver on v1 because it is impossible to have an acceptance rate above 23% unless you like paying people to deliver their food
If you pause your dash then do a delivery the 35 minutes starts all over... if you pause then get and order, decline and pause again... it starts all over. You have to try to use the 35 minutes
We have to keep an 80% acceptance rate to be platinum tiered in my city and it's so frustrating. Before I reached gold, the app would send me absolute garbage offers and I had to accept them to build my AR back up. Some days I wouldn't get a single offer in 4 hours, smh.
I denied an order today that was 2.50 for 8.7 miles from mcdonald's , thats just insulting. I'm almost convinced that after you reach platinum that the algorithm tries to screw you over , to see what you will bend over and take it
I have never been under 70% and for the first time I’m at 69%. The orders are just so bad that I have to deny multiple before I get a good one. A lot of what I’m seeing is $10 for 10.5 miles. With traffic that’s 10 for that hour… it’s not worth it anymore.
No like if you don't hit pause it will send you to one of those neighborhood restaurants where you don't want to go to where you're typically looking at no tip on the back end delivering to shady parts of the city. So it's good to always pause after you deliver so you could travel all the way back to your strip
I had an offer come across my screen that said $2 for 13 miles. I don't think I've ever declined an order so fast.
If a order takes me from the zone I’m in to another zone should I switch zones if it’s a good zone too
I did that.Door dash brought a 30 day time lapse I know.For every 39 days the sr is calculated.Ive been at 85 %for weeks,and didn't get a promotion Now I haven't cashed in three months ,and my ratings haven't changed.I used to see 70%alot ,but then after DD started a thirty day I have seen deliveries in a dash disappear like someone is taking deliveries away..😊
Platinum dasher be having me raging bro. They give bad orders like $5 for 7 miles, etc. Im fed up with keeping my acceptance rate, and losing money at the same time. Its very frustrating
Hey there!
Something isn't working for DD. Their high AR model doesn't work as they thought it would. Here in Northern Jersey they offer a $900 referral and $600 to referred new dasher when they complete 290 deliveries in 60 days.
Today, Friday I made $200 on UE delivering $3+ per mile offers and only $7 on DD. What a stupid concept they have in place. Zones is another stupid thing.
Two years ago there was a waiting list for new dashers. Now they offer $900 just to enslave another sole.
My place I live is so spread out that it's a bad and sometimes good thing.