Saint-Cloud: How France Accidentally Destroyed Their Own Palace
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2020
- The Château de Saint-Cloud, on the western edge of Paris, has got everything you'd want from a French royal château: beautiful gardens, fountains, statues, and unbeatable views across the city. Everything except, erm, the Château itself. So what on earth happened to it? I went to Saint-Cloud to investigate...
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Next time I'll find a mask that doesn't slip off my nose when I talk... 🤦♂️
Solution, don't talk.
Hey, didn't say it was a useful solution
@@dontspikemydrink9382 haha :D to be fair it's actually not a bad idea - you can't see my lips moving anyway so what's the point of talking on camera? I could dub over it afterwards, and totally get away with it. You are an accidental genius
@@TheTimTraveller I take that as an insult. Good day to you
i not going to euro anytime soon.. but cool.. since my house build my grand father using alot of europe design... so seeing the orginal.. mean something to me..
@Ben Bristow 135€ fine mate! Been like that for a couple of months now. It does feel a bit ridiculous wearing a mask in places like this, but by this point I've pretty much got used to it and it's not worth taking it off and putting it on again all the time because you just end up contaminating the thing with whatever filth is on your fingers (which is quite a lot, in Paris).
Also fwiw I usually wait for a quiet moment before I start filming, so there were a few people around, I just made it look like there weren't :)
"I probably shouldn't joke about that one." That didn't age well.
Yup, I just saw that vid and thought the same.
as soon i did hear it, i had to search the reaction on it :D
Why hasn't it aged well?
@@ruidean72 "Imagine Donald Trump shelling the White House". That video was made before January 6th 2021, before the ellection even, but I watched it after that.
@@AleksandarBosakov Why would President Donald Trump shell the White House? It is not funny or a joke. Why not Boris Johnson blow up Buckingham Palace, or Vladimir Putin shelling the Kremlin. What is the point of the joke?
"Let's join all the German states and form a big German and call it Germany,"
Does it mean smaller German States called Gerfew?
You may well already know this, but the Germany that was formed kind of was the Gerfew, since it followed the "Little Germany" concept of the state instead of the "Greater Germany" concept that would have included Austria.
@@westrim I am just making a pun and now I learned something new. Thank you
Ich sehe gleich was Sie da getan haben.
@@lohphat In der Tat.
Gerless?
Super picky technical point. The Pavillon de Breteuil is not international territory. It is still very much part of France. But like Embassies, Consulates and the Headquarters of UNESCO, the land and buildings are provided with functional privileges and immunities. Still French territory--France just does not apply her laws there.
Ah... I was debating whether to explain this in the video - I actually have a longer take where I say the exact words "I guess it's like an embassy" and babble on about it for a bit. In the end I cut it out for brevity, because let's be honest it's not really got anything to do with the chateau. But fwiw yes, you make a fair point :)
@@TheTimTraveller are you not yet aware that a significant portion of your viewers are pedants?
@@TheTimTraveller you cut things? ..... For brevity???
@@benholroyd5221 without cutting you don't get this type of video's.
@@wich1 There's a common misunderstanding that I am a card carrying member of the pedant's society. That's simply not true. It's made of plastic.
I like how you included disability access information in your "if you want to visit" section. It seems small, and I'm not even disabled, but I think it's very thoughtful
It's very thoughtful and I'm very thankful. I'm disabled.
Cloud (actually Chlodoald) was a Merovingian prince who resigned his rights to an inheritance in favour of investiture as a monk. He founded a monastery at the place now named after him and died there greatly revered about 560 AD.
Worldwide Trivia point: Walt Disney World in Florida is in the municipality of Kissimmee-St. Cloud.
Wow, they really abbreviated that name.
And the inhabitants of Saint-Cloud are still called “clodoaldiens”
@@kassistwisted That name must be a real head-scratcher for French tourists, not to mention the rest of us.
Thanks! I love French architecture and the lost chateau is (was?) a favorite. I didn't realize I wanted to know what you shared until I read it and it all made sense. No more Saint High-Altitude-Weather-Phenomenon.
Tim, I adore you. You are really a treasure. With everything that's going on in the world (I'm an American living in Europe), you bring a bit of history and your keen dose of levity to your videos. It's like traveling without traveling, and now I have a long list of places to visit when lockdown is over. You make me smile. And as a historian (clothing, not buildings and railways), you give my brain something to chew on too. No matter how hard it gets, please know that you're helping people a lot just by putting videos up. Thank you.
I agree, Tim, with Ms. McGann. I am a States-banished historian who greatly misses European travel, and drink up each of your videos, especially the ones released in the last 10 months. Thank you for your hard work to film and produce these videos. Each is like a quick jaunt to Europe, and greatly appreciated by me (and a lot of others, I would wager).
Couldn´t have said it any better.
I agree. This channel I discover now seems to be excellent. :)
Speaking from your future, you'll be glad to know that everything is calm, safe, and sane in early 2022.
5:28 *Cat á la Rat.* By far the best dish ever! 😂😂😂
Oh god, yes! 😄 This reminds me of Terry Pratchett..
Is that like a rat stuffed into a cat?
@@maxnaz47 nah, it says "Chat flanqué de rats" so its a cat bordered with rats.
Not sure what it means but it might be a roast with a cat as beef and rats as potatoes.
La ratte is an old French potato variety.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratte_potato?wprov=sfla1
@@EcceJack "Cut my own Throat" Dibbler was having a blast back then.
5:25 "english style roast camel". You know there are bad times for the French when they eat like the English.
To be fair, English cuisine before two world wars and associated rationing ruined everything was quite well regarded for its rich flavours and roasts.
@@Vespuchian Of course it's a cheap shot of me. Stereotypes change over time. For example the french used to be seen as warlike during Napoleons time.
“Would you like one hump or two?”
Thank goodness there's trains in this video, and a miniature one
“Probably should joke about that one”
Bro you had a prophetic vision on that one 😅
He didn’t exactly “shell” the capitol, but I say it’s close enough
Sad it wasn't destroyed.
They should reconstruct the model railroad on that plot of grass.
Nothing else, just the model railroad, without explanation!
They should reconstruct the chateau itself
“When Nationalism takes the place of reason...”. Thank you, Tim. It’s comforting to know that those of us suffering under that right now are not alone in our disappointment of its circumstances.
Feels like half the world right now: "Why does he have to call out our issues for-- oh right those other guys too, yeah."
Wearing the mask must have made the audio syncing and editing so easy! Pandemics are truly the golden age for travel guides.
WTF your channel is DOPE AF!!
Yup - another channel for me to watch - great stuff @shite guides!
I hate rap music but I can't stop watching your videos.
@@renerpho well hate is a strong word. I mean. It's not good by any stretch. It's more, well, shite.
Anyway I subbed.
@@renerpho I'm delighted to hear! Thanks for the kind words!
There was a huge smile on my face when you mentioned the miniature railway. That is exactly the sort of quality content that I want to see in all these videos, spot on, thumbs up, thank you
I wasn't expecting to hear a piano version of the old 1990s Masterchef theme, but there it is.
The random covers of songs are sublime! I just want to know where Tim gets them from!
I thought it was used for the Holiday programme in the Judith Chalmers years, but praps it was used for both? :)
@@davetreadwell I think he plays and records them himself. Now I'm starting to doubt myself because I can't remember when he said it, maybe it was in a description of a video or something.
@@davetreadwell - he almost certainly plays them himself...
@@davetreadwell - he does - I found this:
th-cam.com/users/abandonedrugs
Dude, I just found your channel, the combination of the curious/exploring traveler (I am on my self) and your silly British sense of humor is making my day. Thank you for what you do, and for allowing us to explore the in wonder the world with you
I came for the chateau.
I stayed for the trains lol
man I feel you, I've accidentally deleted a chateaux or two when absently flipping through workers in civ myself
"Not a particularly holy cumulo-nimbus" 😂🤣
Tim: “I probably shouldn’t joke about that.”
Every American checks the date of this video then watches the rest of his content to see what else he successfully predicted. 😳
yeah turns out people had far more to fear from Biden, than Trump. the World was a hell of a lot more peacful under Trump
Incroyable, comme toujours Tim!
I liked the bit of Otto 'B roll' you showed, underlining that the lad came from up north in Germany
5:18 No, not that kind of siège!
Nice one, Tim. Got a good laugh there.
Amazing ! I am French and has a genuine passion for history, especially for our 19th century but still ... I’ve learned a lot watching this video. So: Merci and Bravo Tim ! Keep up the good work !
Very nice video as always! About the buying of the château for Marie-Antoinette, Wikipedia says it was a decision from the king to actually move the whole family, because of big construction works to come in Versailles. They apparently chose to buy under the queen's name to avoid certain specific taxes
I thought the king could just say non to taxes
Napolean III is a local celebrity in Farnborough (the Hampshire one). It's good to see a local lad getting recognition on the TH-cam.
Haha this did not come up in my research! What's he famous for in Farnborough?
@@TheTimTraveller He's buried there. He never visited before then, though.
Ah amazing! To be totally honest I stopped reading his wikipedia page after he got imprisoned and abdicated. Have just gone back and read the bit about his final years exiled in England, including the line "Napoleon passed his time writing and designing a stove which would be more energy efficient" and now I want to make a whole new video about that
@@TheTimTraveller Sounds like any bloke in England with a shed and some free time.
Note for US Americans: Napoleon III is also indirectly responsible for Cinco de mayo. In addition to wanting to extend France's influence in Europe, he wanted to extend its colonies and invaded Mexico. Cinco de mayo celebrates his defeat at Puebla.
I saw that in the comic _blueberry_ , so much souvenirs
And no one in Mexico actually cares. But the US celebrates it anyway. Cause, any excuse for a party.
@@toddnolastname4485 So it really celebrated his need to sell Louisiana and Florida to the US?
It also leads to what some people call as the best ruler that Mexico ever had
Most Americans don’t celebrate that holiday. Why celebrate a minor holiday of another nation?
Outstanding video! It's so rare to learn new interesting stuff at my age (I have read a lot of history), but somehow you show me something new every time. Merci!
Take a shot everytime Tim shows us a unused railway.
Running out of booze!
@@900108Chale running out of bullets....
Hiya Tim, love the video as always. I've been watching your stuff quite a lot during quarantine, and tonight you may have been the final inspirational kick that I needed to finally start producing content of my own. I've been interested in content creation for quite a while and I love quick-history type videos, so it's been something of an idea that I've toyed with for nearly four years now. I've tried a couple times to make the push to start (including making this account) but have been too intimidated or felt like I was planning too much too fast. I've got a plan that I'm not going to complicate, and hopefully will complete soon!
Thanks for doing what you do!
Awesome! Go. Do it. Win!
Lockdown has limited your horizons but you have done well at keeping it interesting. By the end of all this we will all feel like we know Paris inside-out.
Thank you for your time and efforts to create such awesome and fascinating content!
"I probably shouldn't joke about that one." No, indeed, it's too close to happening.
I have the best shells, nobody is better at shelling things than me. The radical liberal White House had it coming.
We all thought that ww3 would be between the US and Iran or China and India but no one could have anticipated that the US actually starts another civil war that causes ww3 (sort of like how the first civil war could’ve started a world war if Europe got involved if memory serves me right).
My source is Monsieur Z’s video about it but take it with a grain of salt like I did
I fully expect him to literally poop on the Resolute Desk on the way out.
I laughed for two second as I thought that's a good joke. Then I was more like "Shit, that's not even that unlikely".
What an "interesting" time to be alive
"Inform, educate and entertain" - who needs the BBC when we have Tim?! Stuck indoors your videos are a lifesaver - thank you!
I do often wonder why traditional TV broadcasting firms (state or commercial) seem incapable of making programmes like the best of TH-cam. Every TV documentary is full of too much music, too many pauses, too many lingering longshots or panoramas, and not enough info. How do individuals with selfie sticks manage to get it so right and whole creative teams get it so wrong?
agreed. Lockdown II here in Ireland is made more bearable with @The Tim Traveller
It was nice to hear a bit of the the orginal London's Burning theme being played during the part about the fire. brought out a smile on my face. I really do enjoy watching these video's, not only because of the great content but also the lovely music renditions done by you Tim.
Recently discovered your channel. Love it. Informative and funny at the same time. Thank you.
"Imagine by the end of January next year, the Queen has destroyed Buckingham Palace, or Angela Merkel has burned the Reichstag, or Donald Trump is shelling the White Hou... actually I probably shouldn't joke about that one."
And here we are, two weeks before the end of January 2021...
This was made in October. What are you, Tim, some sort of Time Traveller?
Prescient.
@@questioner1596 Yeah, he leaves the E out to be perfectly disguised.
as if the "nationalist frenzy" bit before wasn't on the nose enough...
WHAT I THOUGHT THIS VIDEO WAS MADE IN FEBRUARY AT LEAST
Tim predicted everything
Ooh, burning the Reichstag, also a sensitive one (as it actually happened - and THAT really didn't end well)
I really appreciate the way you give all that useful "how to get here and what to know" tips at the end. Super helpful!
THIS CHANNEL IS AMAZING!! Why am I finding it just now???? LOVE IT!
"Imagine if by January Angela Merkel has burned down the Reichstag"
"Oh no I have done it again."
"Angela you silly goose."
*Sitcom laughter*
*B A Z I N G A*
I have loved watching your videos. They have just the right amount of information that we dont nod off, and not so straightforward that Google just answers. You keep things interesting during crazy Covid times here in india. keep making more of these. And no, I am not bothered by the fact that you can travel or that every video has a fun fact on trains.❤️
Highly enjoyable as usual, my friend. Kudos!
Probably your best one yet. Great work Tim
*ahem* that was hallarious.
hilarous
@@Friek555 Cheers!
Good job on bringing back "lost" history.
Great history lesson. Thanks Tim "The Time" Traveller 👍🏼👍
The Siège had me laughing even after the video ended! Great video as usual.
Should've known you'd stick a railway anywhere you could! Good video btw
He's like Wendover Productions with planes but with trains.
I've spent a lot of time in Paris (4 trips, about six months total) and I love that no matter how many times I visit there are still interesting things to see that I either haven't heard about or haven't had the time to see. Thanks for another interesting video and keep them coming!
I lived there for eight years and I experience the same LOL!
Every time I hear the 'Wish You Were Here' theme at the end of your videos, it brings back so many memories from my childhood, watching Judith Chalmers travel around, offering up holiday tips.
Quel grand plaisir, Tim! Merci beaucoup.
6:08 Should we call you Tim the Prophet now?
3:28
Napoleon III : What could go wrong ?
Bismarck : Hold my herring !
Not really known, but Napoléon the third signed the papers, but hated the idea of going to war with germany. The biggest irony is that actually, its the republicans in the national assembly that push for war, when Napoléon and his government were doing their best to not to. The same republicans that will blame napoleon the third for the defeat and the war! And that is the story known till this day. On of the biggest lie of french moderb history!
Today's 'Hallooo' is fresh, with notes of early autumn breeze and a slight sparkle. Perfect to accompany a cheese platter and binging Tim Traveler video's.
Your video's are very good to use in history lessons! Short and clear! (And entertaining too!)
I'm liking this format! Keep it up Tim!
Is this a different format?
Missed opportunity for the 'Ello 'Ello theme Tim
*'Allo 'Allo! :)
'You stuuu-pid woman!'
How may I thank you for the laughs and information Tim! Thank you, you are doing a commendable job.
LOVE the subs. But also great content as always!
«Maybe I shouldn´t joke about that» in october 2020. You may have prophetic powers.
Best time to visit... (usually) biginning of September, there is a huge fireworks display, biggest in Europe.
Lockdown and all the 2020 craziness have changed the way I enjoy your videos, because.. as a Parisian on one side I don't learn much anymore by watching them :-) but on the other side, I really realize and appreciate the work you are putting into them even more, and it's great to know that your viewers all around the world are learning about this. Should they come and visit Paris in the future, they may stray from the overcrowded classic tourist-y areas! Now everytime I go for a stroll in a park or through the Petite Ceinture, I somewhat expect to bump into you shooting a video :)
Cool about the garden railway! And I appreciate the accessibility information.
That remark on shelling the White House became pretty close
The company i work for manufactured the original Kilogram referance standard, held at the Bureau :)
Thanks for sharing, but the kilogram has always bothered me. KILO.
The unit for length isn´t kilometer, nor is the unit for force micro-Newton. It´s an exception I´m not pleased with, yet so embedded that fixing it is just as awkward.
I´m a metric person, but not because of the units themselves. I´m perfectly fine using inches and pounds, as long as we use the DECIMAL system. Hence, kilo-inches & centi-inches, or deci-pounds.
The problem with the imperial system, is they use multiple units at the same time. Yards, inches, miles & feet all mixed up. It contradicts the definition of standard, if you ask me.
@@STARDRIVE They do use milli-inches, abbreviated "mil" .
been waiting for the next upload
Absolutely wonderful video! Perhaps your best yet ... Many thanks!
I visited the royal park of Saint-Cloud some time ago and was hoping to find some remains of the palace, but alas. Never knew the cause of its destruction, I just assumed the Communards were to blame.
They were. They were the ones who shelled the palace. Plus, with their track record of destruction - Tuileries Palace, just to give the most infamous example - one can be excused for not putting any act of wonton destruction past them.
@@tally1604 Ah, thanks for clearing that up!
singing Don't Leave Me This Way as they watched the poor thing burn to the ground? Sorry, I'll get my coat.
5:21 nice little play on words with the English/French meaning of "siege" in the graphic
You are a talented content creator! Thank you so much for your videos! it allows a viewer to go place and learn history via TH-cam :)
Loved your content and sense of humor! Nice videos!
Always a pleasure watching your videos
Maybe you can record one about your life and livelihood in France?
It would be great to get some inside into the mans life who inspires us all with these great videos!
Tip: it doesn't resemble one bit of how americans think paris is like 😂😂 like 'emily in Paris'....naha 😉
TH-cam has a really annoying issue. It only lets me upvote videos like this once.
Another brilliant video! Thanks, Tim.
Tim, there is also an interesting site in Paris: the lost Palais des Tuileries. It was one of the main Royal residences in France and, technically speaking, it is the reason why the Louvre museum is so big. It is the missing link between the two main galleries, enclosuring the Carousel arch, separating it from the Tuileries garden. It was destroyed by fire at the same troubled period of the fall of Napoleon III (like St-Cloud).
"and when nationalism takes the place of reason, countries tend to do silly things AHEM"
Gee I wonder what that could possibly be referring to?
EDIT: /s to make it clearer
Quite a long list, and that's just contemporary events...
Just what I thought
Well, why is a Brit establishing residence in an EU country prior to the end of this year?
Every single international conflict in the past 200 years?
At the end, T shelling the white house.
Something like starting WW's or playing with nukes and rockets are in that category as well.
Billy Joel was right, we didn't start the fire. The French did
Nothing (cough) beats a Tim Traveller video hitting TH-cam. It brightens the day. Tim, if you read these comments I want to thank you for a forthcoming trip to Germany. It includes many of the places you have produced films about and I wouldn't be going to them unless I had discovered this channel (I think at around the 30K subscribers mark). So thank you. We're really looking forward to going to Monchau, Mettlach, Volklingen, Wuppertel, etc etc. We owe you a pint. In the meantime keep the content coming please.
You're awesome, Tim. You come across as a guy with a very kind heart. Hopefully, this is a stepping stone to even greater things in your life. Thanks for bringing us along and showing the world that a kind soul, on a limited & pragmatic budget, can find fantastic and interesting places that are not the typical, over-hyped, disneyfied, tourist trap.
"I can't speak french" was a nice touch.
Tim's mask is slipping. Literally speaking. Really hope there's no figurative mask. Not that I have concrete reasons to worry that there is.
So you are literally concerned that his figurative mask is literally (figuratively speaking) slipping?
Ps Was the concrete literal or figurative? Got to be sure, why do you think that bridge collapsed in Italy a year or so ago.
Thanks Tim, another interesting video and I learned a bit of history too. Plus a bit of railway. Win win!
Excellent. Funny and informative.. wish these videos were longer!
From January 14 2021, man that line about Trump shelling the White House is a little too prescient. Are you sure you’re not a time traveler?
Time travel is on his second channel. He usually keeps the content apart but you know how it is when you know the future.
The place reminds me of the crystal palace grounds in London. Very interesting
Thank the universe I wasn’t drinking coffee when you said that bit about the orange man.
Nothing harder to see than an absence. Thank you Tim for helping. And, love your accent!
If Tim visits your house then it's probably vanished or fake.
Or you live in a railway station.
8:38 This Huge building in the middle Kind of destroys the landscape,doesnt it?
My grand parents used to live in Saint-Cloud, I've spend loooog boooooring afternoons there, including the ritual tour in the nearby parc, and I had never heard this piece of history before seeing your video... Thanks for sharing it, I guess I'll go back to Saint-Cloud with more pleasure now ! (and by the way, my grandfather was one of the director of the SNCF, and reading « La Vie du Rail », a newspaper for train enthusiasts was one of my distractions during those family afternoon... it seems that Train has a connection with everything !)
I recently discovered the awesome world of French chateaus through the channel Doing It Ourselves and the whole community around it. Absolutely fascinating stuff to see European culture and architecture remain so many years later. The way you present everything is so invigorating 💖 not to mention, loving the first model railway 🥺
that place is beautiful
Tim, if you had mentioned “Capitol”, that would be a hit! Very close to it!
Great video!
Hugely entertaining and full of fun facts ... as usual. Thanks!
it's always a delight to watch your videos, especially when you are in France or Germany (I am from Berlin)
You could have added one info, though:
Before Covid the Saint Cloud gardens hosted every october one of the biggest fireworks in Europe - "Le Grand Feu"
There is a town in Minnesota called Saint Cloud and they pronounce it the same as clouds in the sky.
Can confirm. Was born and spend the first 7 or so years of my life there. I miss it. Lots of snowfall in the '90s.
@TheRenaissanceman65 According to the rest of the English speaking world, we can't even get the letter Z right :D (Zee rather than Zed)
@TheRenaissanceman65, see also: New Orleans.
Great Saturday night entertainment
I drove there with my bike last summer and didnt even know what it was. Thank you for enlighting me :)
as usual, i love your films!!