Courtesan life is truly harsh... But let us not also ignore the fact that the Fujiwara clan famously married their daughters into the Imperial Family making them relevant for 200 years.
@kkkrevolution3307but even so let's not forget that the fujiwara clan married their daughters into the imperial family gaining them 200 years of control
That was the single funniest sponsorship segment I have ever seen. I was actually laughing aloud and had my housemates staring at me in confusion. Loved it!!
Japan has a history of considering women over the age of 25 to be unmarriageable. There's a rather condescending term for it: "Christmas Cake". It comes from the idea that nobody wants to get the treats made for the Christmas season after the 25th.
@LaydiNite What I find funny about that idea is that people who really wanted to be that said other person wouldn't even care about age like being over 25. Honestly, it was just a dumb talking point that I feel was used by that one person who had a higher status then most others.
I find these videos fascinating. I can't help but think of how for seemingly all of human history, men have been obsessed with women and our sexuality, and that obsession leads to systems that encourage objectification, sex trafficking, early deaths, etc. Fascinating and very sad. Grateful to live during a period where women have more choices (in general) and less of us have to consider selling ourselves in such a manner to survive. I hope the day comes where this is never needed for women, and only those that are truly interested in living in such a manner do so.
As far as biology is concerned, literally nothing matters aside from reproducing. Living, dying, accomplishments, morality, ethics, all irrelevant compared to just making children. After all, the only people who's genes continue are those who have children. That's the kind of personality that evolution creates. When you account for that, and the fact that men and women have two completely different reproductive goals, it becomes pretty clear *why* society has developed as it has. For men, having as many children as possible with as many women as possible with as little investment as possible would result in more children surviving and continuing on. Comparatively, for women, having as many children as possible with a single man who is heavily invested in only her and her children makes much more sense, as women are extremely vulnerable when carrying children, and feeding and raising them requires significant energy and time expenditures. All of this being said, I don't think I need to tell you which strategy is more ethical and appropriate, especially in the modern day. But unfortunately, the difference in male and female psychology when it comes to sexuality is just built into our biology. History reflects this very clearly. The good news is that, as we become more advanced as a society and we, hopefully, acknowledge these differences and their motivations, we can work to overcome what our biology tells us to do and start to choose what our minds know is correct and moral.
@@KeterMalkuthyour comment has good points but there are some big issues with your reasoning, particularly on the men's side. Human males absolutely do benefit from spending resources on their own children. Unless a species has lots of offspring that develop quickly or very competent lone mothers, the strategy you mentioned doesn't work. Usually, only one human is born at a time and it takes YEARS for it to do anything useful. We survived by being social and cooperative bc that's what works for our children. In this situation, the man that spend the least time taking care of other people's offspring and instead focus on his own is the one that succeeds. That's one of the main reasons why so many patriarchal societies treated women as property of their husband: it was a way to almost guarantee the offspring is theirs. It's also why female cheating was often punishable by death while male cheating was considered normal. Males still get tons of variety in their gene pool by cheating, but females don't. So yeah, the idea this model benefits women is bullshit. It's made by men, for men. No wonder some of the most violently misogynistic people nowadays hate divorce so much lol
@@DragonNyah That's true, I spoke perhaps too broadly for the sake of making my point regarding the biological drivers clear. Rather than encouraging a complete lack of investment on the part of men, it encourages men to be more liberal with their investment in several women, whereas women have incentive to be more invested in a single partner. The primary facet I wanted to illustrate is that the behaviors that biology encourage are, to some degree, directly contrary between men and women. What behaviors benefit women and what behaviors benefit men, from the perspective of solely continuing their genes, while similar, are noticeably different. Obviously, being loyal to your partner and treating them right and investing yourself in one person is the correct choice in the modern day. Our mortality rates are significantly reduced so there's very little imbalance between our gender ratios, we all implicitly understand the emotional betrayal associated with cheating, and we all know children deserve to have two dedicated parents. However, biologically, we're not all 100% wired to adhere to that goal. By acknowledging that, we can find solutions and work around what hormones and instincts tell us to do.
That was, hands down, one of the best and most hilarious promos I’ve ever heard lmao And Im totally using “aggressively broke” from now on. It spoke to my soul lmao
A TH-camr called "asked Shojo" interviewed a Tayu. There are three I think in Kyoto left. They weren't prostitutes but the highest rank of geisha. She seemed annoyed about the prostitute thing lol. But I just wanted to mention that.
You have to remember that the modern Taiyu is not like the historical Taiyu as the former is a product of legal fiction lobbied for by geishas at the time the 1957 anti-Prostitution law was enacted since the Taiyu are considered "Prostitutes" by the letter of that law...
When I was a teenager, I was in love with Japan. It was a magical place, I thought. I was enamored with ninja and shinto, and pretty much everything. Naturally, I wanted to learn more about this wonderful place. That was my mistake. The more I learned, the less magical Japan became. It was a country like every other country in the world, complete with problems, unfortunate history, ordinary people, and no magical anime fantasy. Oh, to have that ignorant bliss of youth again. Reality bites. I still love Japan, for what it is, not what imagine. This video-all your videos-remind me of that. I feel for the human beings of Japan's historical pleasure districts. What a hard life! That life would genuinely suck ass. (No pun intended here.) Whenever my life starts to suck and things look down, I can always say to myself, "I could've been a tayu." (How I'd pull that off, being a man and not a particularly good-looking one, I don't know.) Your video taught me that, Linfamy. Domo arigato gozaimasu!
Hi. Thanks for you videos. Do you think you can analyze/retell the story of the movie memoirs of a Geisha? Different scenes of the movie, the burden or importance of decisions are still confusing to me because I lack the cultural background.
The book and movie are only very loosely based on reality and got many things blatantly wrong. It actually pissed off the woman who was one of the inspirations for it, named Mineko Iwasaki, to the point where she sued the author for defamation. There is a book called "Geisha: A Life" that was written by her. She worked as a geisha and talks about her personal experiences.
my original comment got deleted cause youtube terminated my channel 😭 but anyways, thank you for making videos about Tayu! They have been useful for my fics and written rp/collab stories.
So, this has to say, this has to be the closest equivalent to guys and gals trying to sell alcohol at these clubs and bring in certain level of money per night...
when your video out of 11 minutes has *2 FULL MINUTES* for an ad... it means .. you are REALLY desperate.. you only left us with 9 minutes why am i bringing this out? because majority of your videos ..... [as long as they don't include the fujiwara clan programming] give us the "flow effect" they are TOO GOOD that, 10 minutes feel like 3 minutes. but with an ad that took 2 minutes... the 10 minutes felt like 20.... thus the "charm" faded..
I know I made this story up but I thought you’d like it it’s the story about a girl from Japan that has no gravity and has to were metal boots to stay on the ground and one day her grand father was taken by the prince of hell and she goes to hell to save her grand father by going to the ocean and she wins in the end by killing the prince of hell with her grandfather’s sword he forged
I don't know if I offend you or anything but when I hear a double love suicide my mind just goes straight to Dazai Osamu the guy who's always happy to do a double suicide 😂✨
Yes. Tayū was a specific rank, the highest rank of courtesans. The term oiran came into use only after the tayū mostly disappeared. Oiran wasn't a specific rank, but a general term for high-ranking courtesans. Modern tayū are different from the historical tayū.
Tayu were not Prostitutes, they were highly powerful and the highest rank of geisha/ female entertainers in Japan, while oiran were prostitutes who impersonated tayu
Tayū were the highest class of courtesans who catered to the nobility. They absolutely were prostitutes. These days, Tayū refers to the highest rank of geisha, but historically Tayū were courtesans, which means they did sleep with clients who could afford it
@hannaansari2921 It's a shitty way to make a living, and it's exploitative, so there are definitely a lot of bad things worth saying about it. If it was a system free of exploitation, and not one where guys and sometimes ladies gave up large chunks of their paychecks for a peek at a cam model, whether single or attached and with families, then maybe it could be seen as harmless, but that is not the case.
@@hannaansari2921I am also annoyed by the fact that people keep on complaining about OF. I think the real issue people have is the fact that only fans models have the potential to make more money in a single day than they can in a week or even a month. Now I'm not encouraging it, but hate the game not the player, or better yet, the people who keep on giving all their money to people on OF. It's also fake mortality too. Being a morally upright person is easy when your on social media.
Never have I ever seen a better transition to the usually annoying sponsor part, if it weren't some filthy subsciption scam BS, I'd even give it a try.
Its kinda weird how most of your videos are about prostitutes, i think its even weirder that you know alot about it.... Is there something you wanna say??
Linfamy, you're the only one who has ever gotten me to sit through a sponsorship segment, and very much the only one who has made me enjoy every second of it.
I imagine that this was a terribly lonely existence for these Courtesans, even while being surrounded by all of these clients who claimed to love or even just care for the Courtesans. Sometimes offering a caricature of affection can be a very cruel thing to do to somebody. It makes me wonder what the rate of suicide was among Courtesans in the Edo period.
Did you forget the last video where the guy literally sold his high position in Edo for his courtesan and got in trouble with the court? If anything actually loving them was the problem, not the opposite
@@nonamepasserbya6658 That's nice, but life for most hookers, back then and now, is not the same thing as "Pretty Woman." And especially in a culture like Japan's that has traditionally placed so much value on honor and saving face, it wouldn't exactly go over well if word got around that a man abandoned his family/wife and/or rescued some whore from a brothel. Johns don't go to whores for love, then or now.
*Changed And are you sure? It looks the same. Are you actually making a joke? Because I can't see facial signs in a comment, so sarcasm isn't really fit as a joke in text form.
@@bidoofismyking8962 depends which party. A gathering where you discuss a more intelligent topic, yes I am. A party where all you is talk about celebrities, get drunk for no real reason but to try to cope with life etc. No, not my thing.
i mean but is it? ive never been a supporter of any sort of porn. strictly because being a man, ive been around mostly men my whole life, and i wouldnt allow most of them anywhere near my sister. like, yeah being 30 (in the US btw), women in the sex industry are, not guaranteed obviously, but for the most part just treated like meat. an old pornstar died just recently at 43 and like 99% of the article only talked about her porn career. in essence, im saying most guys, at least to me in my country, just see women strictly as an object that they can relieve stress into, and thats it.
Being a prostitute has always been a humiliating and miserable thing to do. And the worse thing is, most these women didn’t choose this. They were sold to the brothel as little girls, where the pimps would just hang around and wait for them to get older. ((They would still usually start way too young for sex, because it’s not like a pimp cared about the emotional well-being of girls.)
Good show, as always. I especially like the OLD JAPANESE STORY *hint hint wink wink* framing device. I am curious as to why you've been so fond of the ladies of the night in the Edo period recently. Also, the "background noise of humping and sobs" line got me pretty good.
Sometimes I read about a topic and there are so many interesting aspects of it, it's hard to stop. I'm reading about the history of food in Japan now, so you might see more videos about that soon...
Since you mentioned love can ruin them & showing Komurasaki from One Piece reminds me that her name might come from Miura-ya Komurasaki which was a real life Oiran from the Edo period with a tragic love story that is immortalized in Kitagawa Utamaro's painting “The Lovers Miura-ya Komurasaki & Shirai Gonpachi” where Gonpachi committed crimes to buy her freedom but it caused his death which made the her committed suicide after learning of his death
Please do am episode om traditional clothing!! they are all just so beautiful, but on the internet there is no info about traditional japanese clothing, they just tell you about kimonos and call it a day! ;c
OOOOOOOO YAY NEW TRAGIC HISTORY VIDEO ABOUT A SUBJECT I NEED FOR A FIC! but also, awwww dang :( I just *know* they went through some more bad things I'm glad to learn more about Tayu and Oiran, and Geisha! It'll help bring my fic to life
I don't know what he means by figure 8 pattern, so maybe it's not exactly the same, but the way he describes these Courtesans kicking their legs out when they walk immediately reminded me of the way Tifa walks in the original FF7. I always thought that her walk cycle was very odd, because she has this circular way she kicks her leg out and brings it back in as she moves forward. I wonder if that walk cycle was designed with the dayo in mind and what they meant for that to say about her character if anything :x
I wish there could be a resort that does the experience of being a palace princess or consort without the bad parts. It would be pricey but it seems so cool! XD and there's something like that in the UK where you can stay in a castle with servants!
But it was all bad parts. Your life revolves around being forced to sleep with men you don't want and not being able to live the life you do want. it is called sex slavery for a reason.
You could buy a Japanese castle and turn it into a tourist destination...I mean. Have 350000 dollars... laying around. You can own your own Japanese castle and you can hire hospitality staff to man the Tourist castle and turn it into a hotel. Closest thing or equivalent to an actual Japanese Lady and Lord experience...
Always happy to sit out the sponsoring segments made by Linfamy, is guaranteed entertaining! And love the tiny cookie crumbles on the face of the tayu holding a kawaii cup😁
This is one of the most interesting as well as entertaining channels on this platform! There's so many beautiful and fascinating artwork and I love the narrators humour too 😊 Sometimes I listen to this with my soon to be husband. My soon to be husband is half Finnish 🇫🇮 half Japanese 🇯🇵 and also, one of my favourite movies of all time is Takahashi Mike's Imprint. I'm so happy that I subscribed 😊 Thank you 🙏🫶 and greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
Its amazing how the second I get super into looking at the history behind oiran and tayuu, Linfamy uploads a ton of videos on the subject. I do have one question though: I understand that tayuu and oiran are different, tayuu being pre 1750 and oiran being post (at least in yoshiwara). But how were they simular, and how were they different? Based on my research, their appearances differed in a few different ways, and oiran were, while still trained in the arts, much less trained than tayuu. Not to mention all the different types of rank within the oiran umbrella and ranks beneath the tayuu. It gets very confusing very quick.
Never thought a history youtuber had a proper sexy personnality w/o really showing themselves before. Also the drawings and the narration, I don't have am epic description for it but they work perfectly. Thanks Linfamy
Are there any remaining records of stalking or kidnapping or trafficking sex workers in the Japanese history? Also cases of doing sex work outside a brothel or outside the pleasure district or in a patron's property or inn? Were there any jilted lovers coming back to a brothel and murdering multiple sex workers or serial killers who singled out sex workers or sex workers who were serial killers?
The real reason why the Japanese are so willing to ship their snacks around the world is because that way no foreigners will come to Japan to buy that stuff themselves.
It isn't helped that Japan temporarily banned foreign tourists travelling to Japan during the twilight of the pandemic and even when they lifted the restrictions the red tape for foreign tourists is still considerable. Also, a lot of places in Japan are economically dying: you think them doing crazy things like have animals as train conductors and making mosaics out of rice paddies was done for funsies? No, they did it to attract (foreign) money to their communities to stave off collapse...
I can't believe I watched the entire sponsor segment cause it was entertaining... Bro you are just born in the wrong era, you will fit in the Edo era perfectly XD
Reminded me of Korean pop stars that they are churning out - getting passed around by rich oligarchs, complete lack of freedom, steep ranks, adoration by the public... It's the Edo period all over again!
Yep, that’s a pretty excellent comparison. They present the idea of a flawless, wealthy, perfect girl but behind the scenes they’re abused, starved, and have literally no life. Since most idols start training in early teens, they’re just like courtesans. There’s also likely a tonne of sexual abuse behind the scenes as well
Compared to tayū fees, this is nothing 😉: www.patreon.com/Linfamy
Sexual History of Japan: th-cam.com/video/dLRzw-PQs_Q/w-d-xo.html
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Wait what happened to Boxsu?! I feel so betrayed and confused
Omg
I love your videos please make more.
This actually might have me sold
Courtesan life is truly harsh...
But let us not also ignore the fact that the Fujiwara clan famously married their daughters into the Imperial Family making them relevant for 200 years.
@kkkrevolution3307but even so let's not forget that the fujiwara clan married their daughters into the imperial family gaining them 200 years of control
Like, this story somehow weaves it's way into every single story, I could memorise the line by now-
@@unknown_cat6969😂
Gee the Japanese somehow sound even worse than the Hapsburgs.
naniiii ,what kind of father that married they daughter like that ,if any woman its allow
That was the single funniest sponsorship segment I have ever seen. I was actually laughing aloud and had my housemates staring at me in confusion. Loved it!!
"Most courtesans retired by their mid 20's'"
Me being 29 😢
Retirement might result in squalor
So you aspire to be a courtesan?
Japan has a history of considering women over the age of 25 to be unmarriageable. There's a rather condescending term for it: "Christmas Cake". It comes from the idea that nobody wants to get the treats made for the Christmas season after the 25th.
@LaydiNite What I find funny about that idea is that people who really wanted to be that said other person wouldn't even care about age like being over 25. Honestly, it was just a dumb talking point that I feel was used by that one person who had a higher status then most others.
are you a courtesan?
A real rollercoaster ride of dramatic revelations and emotion!
And that was just the ad segment.
😂
There is more written down about singular japanese courtesans then there is of Carthages entire history.
*cries in still no Second Punic War from Oversimplified*
Holy shit, really!? That's wild!
@@akechijubeimitsuhide Oh do I have news to tell you, my friend.
I've seen the notification.@@Katafrakt_
In the words of Cato, "f*** Carthage" 😂
I find these videos fascinating. I can't help but think of how for seemingly all of human history, men have been obsessed with women and our sexuality, and that obsession leads to systems that encourage objectification, sex trafficking, early deaths, etc. Fascinating and very sad. Grateful to live during a period where women have more choices (in general) and less of us have to consider selling ourselves in such a manner to survive. I hope the day comes where this is never needed for women, and only those that are truly interested in living in such a manner do so.
I highly doubt humans will ever stop exploiting each other.
@lainiwakura1776 I know. A girl can dream though
As far as biology is concerned, literally nothing matters aside from reproducing. Living, dying, accomplishments, morality, ethics, all irrelevant compared to just making children. After all, the only people who's genes continue are those who have children. That's the kind of personality that evolution creates. When you account for that, and the fact that men and women have two completely different reproductive goals, it becomes pretty clear *why* society has developed as it has. For men, having as many children as possible with as many women as possible with as little investment as possible would result in more children surviving and continuing on. Comparatively, for women, having as many children as possible with a single man who is heavily invested in only her and her children makes much more sense, as women are extremely vulnerable when carrying children, and feeding and raising them requires significant energy and time expenditures.
All of this being said, I don't think I need to tell you which strategy is more ethical and appropriate, especially in the modern day. But unfortunately, the difference in male and female psychology when it comes to sexuality is just built into our biology. History reflects this very clearly. The good news is that, as we become more advanced as a society and we, hopefully, acknowledge these differences and their motivations, we can work to overcome what our biology tells us to do and start to choose what our minds know is correct and moral.
@@KeterMalkuthyour comment has good points but there are some big issues with your reasoning, particularly on the men's side. Human males absolutely do benefit from spending resources on their own children. Unless a species has lots of offspring that develop quickly or very competent lone mothers, the strategy you mentioned doesn't work. Usually, only one human is born at a time and it takes YEARS for it to do anything useful. We survived by being social and cooperative bc that's what works for our children. In this situation, the man that spend the least time taking care of other people's offspring and instead focus on his own is the one that succeeds. That's one of the main reasons why so many patriarchal societies treated women as property of their husband: it was a way to almost guarantee the offspring is theirs. It's also why female cheating was often punishable by death while male cheating was considered normal. Males still get tons of variety in their gene pool by cheating, but females don't. So yeah, the idea this model benefits women is bullshit. It's made by men, for men. No wonder some of the most violently misogynistic people nowadays hate divorce so much lol
@@DragonNyah That's true, I spoke perhaps too broadly for the sake of making my point regarding the biological drivers clear. Rather than encouraging a complete lack of investment on the part of men, it encourages men to be more liberal with their investment in several women, whereas women have incentive to be more invested in a single partner.
The primary facet I wanted to illustrate is that the behaviors that biology encourage are, to some degree, directly contrary between men and women. What behaviors benefit women and what behaviors benefit men, from the perspective of solely continuing their genes, while similar, are noticeably different.
Obviously, being loyal to your partner and treating them right and investing yourself in one person is the correct choice in the modern day. Our mortality rates are significantly reduced so there's very little imbalance between our gender ratios, we all implicitly understand the emotional betrayal associated with cheating, and we all know children deserve to have two dedicated parents. However, biologically, we're not all 100% wired to adhere to that goal. By acknowledging that, we can find solutions and work around what hormones and instincts tell us to do.
That was, hands down, one of the best and most hilarious promos I’ve ever heard lmao And Im totally using “aggressively broke” from now on. It spoke to my soul lmao
I really love how the art gets better each episodes
Love, the ultimate relationship package gamble. You can end up aggressively broke, or maybe with that tender companionship.
A TH-camr called "asked Shojo" interviewed a Tayu. There are three I think in Kyoto left. They weren't prostitutes but the highest rank of geisha. She seemed annoyed about the prostitute thing lol. But I just wanted to mention that.
Yep, modern tayu are not like the historical ones.
You have to remember that the modern Taiyu is not like the historical Taiyu as the former is a product of legal fiction lobbied for by geishas at the time the 1957 anti-Prostitution law was enacted since the Taiyu are considered "Prostitutes" by the letter of that law...
I love your artwork and your narration style ❤
The sponsorships are very hilariously placed. Love the vids. Haha.
So happy to see you put Sakuran artwork in there ❤ it's one of my favorite mangas
Man ever since I found this channel I can't stop watching it. I've been binging for days.
Woohoo
"The fashion was like Kanye, it got crazier and crazier." Lmao that's awesome 😎
So nice of all the poor penniless beggar than the street to be able to somehow single out sponsorships for both tokyotreat and Sakuraco😂😂.
That sweet as$ ad transition though lol
When I was a teenager, I was in love with Japan. It was a magical place, I thought. I was enamored with ninja and shinto, and pretty much everything. Naturally, I wanted to learn more about this wonderful place. That was my mistake. The more I learned, the less magical Japan became. It was a country like every other country in the world, complete with problems, unfortunate history, ordinary people, and no magical anime fantasy.
Oh, to have that ignorant bliss of youth again. Reality bites.
I still love Japan, for what it is, not what imagine.
This video-all your videos-remind me of that. I feel for the human beings of Japan's historical pleasure districts. What a hard life! That life would genuinely suck ass. (No pun intended here.)
Whenever my life starts to suck and things look down, I can always say to myself, "I could've been a tayu." (How I'd pull that off, being a man and not a particularly good-looking one, I don't know.)
Your video taught me that, Linfamy. Domo arigato gozaimasu!
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Hi. Thanks for you videos. Do you think you can analyze/retell the story of the movie memoirs of a Geisha? Different scenes of the movie, the burden or importance of decisions are still confusing to me because I lack the cultural background.
The book and movie are only very loosely based on reality and got many things blatantly wrong. It actually pissed off the woman who was one of the inspirations for it, named Mineko Iwasaki, to the point where she sued the author for defamation. There is a book called "Geisha: A Life" that was written by her. She worked as a geisha and talks about her personal experiences.
@@LaydiNiteOk. Now it can explain some of my confusion! Thanks.
my original comment got deleted cause youtube terminated my channel 😭 but anyways, thank you for making videos about Tayu! They have been useful for my fics and written rp/collab stories.
So, this has to say, this has to be the closest equivalent to guys and gals trying to sell alcohol at these clubs and bring in certain level of money per night...
@0:22 Would def tune in for a Kaiju in Kimonos Klash!
I'm sure a box of Sakuraco will be enough to buy these girls out of whatever contract they were under
"Godzilla and King Kong in Kimonos" that cracked me up
Man, the way you push your sponsors... if I were not as broke as the first beggar, I'd go for Sakurako...
Can anyone tell me what manga Linfamy keeps showing clips of?
Wonder what Daki did..
when your video out of 11 minutes has *2 FULL MINUTES* for an ad... it means .. you are REALLY desperate.. you only left us with 9 minutes
why am i bringing this out? because majority of your videos ..... [as long as they don't include the fujiwara clan programming]
give us the "flow effect" they are TOO GOOD that, 10 minutes feel like 3 minutes.
but with an ad that took 2 minutes... the 10 minutes felt like 20.... thus the "charm" faded..
Those poor women must've had livers of pure steel, to drink as much as their clients all while on an empty stomach
Sadly not every courtesan love story ends like the manga edo karuta or mademoiselle butterfly.
The whole courtesan industry turned into the J pop industry.
I know I made this story up but I thought you’d like it it’s the story about a girl from Japan that has no gravity and has to were metal boots to stay on the ground and one day her grand father was taken by the prince of hell and she goes to hell to save her grand father by going to the ocean and she wins in the end by killing the prince of hell with her grandfather’s sword he forged
I don't know if I offend you or anything but when I hear a double love suicide my mind just goes straight to Dazai Osamu the guy who's always happy to do a double suicide 😂✨
"You know how these suffering, starving, very real women got though their day? My fuCKING SPONSORRR!!"
Bro 1/4 of you video was a sponsor ad
🤔💡 dude has some great ideas you should try and get into investing and diversify entrepreneurship ☺️
Aren’t Oiran and Tayu two different things?
Yes. Tayū was a specific rank, the highest rank of courtesans. The term oiran came into use only after the tayū mostly disappeared. Oiran wasn't a specific rank, but a general term for high-ranking courtesans.
Modern tayū are different from the historical tayū.
half the video is an advertisement 💀
Man you've been doing videos on prostitutes for a while. Do you have something to tell us?
Tayu were not Prostitutes, they were highly powerful and the highest rank of geisha/ female entertainers in Japan, while oiran were prostitutes who impersonated tayu
Tayū were the highest class of courtesans who catered to the nobility. They absolutely were prostitutes. These days, Tayū refers to the highest rank of geisha, but historically Tayū were courtesans, which means they did sleep with clients who could afford it
"These women were educated and their conversations cultured"
Unlike most people in onlyfans
Why whine about OF when you don't go there to seek companionship or educational classes,it's not a book club honey
@hannaansari2921 It's a shitty way to make a living, and it's exploitative, so there are definitely a lot of bad things worth saying about it.
If it was a system free of exploitation, and not one where guys and sometimes ladies gave up large chunks of their paychecks for a peek at a cam model, whether single or attached and with families, then maybe it could be seen as harmless, but that is not the case.
@@hannaansari2921I am also annoyed by the fact that people keep on complaining about OF. I think the real issue people have is the fact that only fans models have the potential to make more money in a single day than they can in a week or even a month. Now I'm not encouraging it, but hate the game not the player, or better yet, the people who keep on giving all their money to people on OF. It's also fake mortality too. Being a morally upright person is easy when your on social media.
Never have I ever seen a better transition to the usually annoying sponsor part, if it weren't some filthy subsciption scam BS, I'd even give it a try.
Wouldn't this be "Oiran"? The highest status of prostitute? Tayu weren't sexual entertainers
Nope, they were tayu. In modern times it's different, but back in the Edo Period, tayu were sexual entertainers.
Its kinda weird how most of your videos are about prostitutes, i think its even weirder that you know alot about it.... Is there something you wanna say??
He’s done maybe 10 or 12 videos on prostitution out of 260
Ok. I love this channel but it’s sponsored advertising is. tooooooo long
You say her name is Kayoichi, but you write it as Kayoiji...
WTF?
Do you also drive a cheep? ...and wear cheans, when you go out chogging?
I absolutely do drive a cheap :p
Cheep cheep
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"They didn't just sell sex; they sold a fantasy of love and companionship."
Sounds like many streamers and most Vtubers.
hahahhaha japan plan so early that we know hee
Their Fanbases are the same too lol
When this works so well, I wonder why most prostitutes strictly sell sex.
Linfamy, you're the only one who has ever gotten me to sit through a sponsorship segment, and very much the only one who has made me enjoy every second of it.
same lol
sometimes you don't realize you're in the ad for a few seconds XD
same
4:40 if you don't care.
I still feel dirty somehow
I imagine that this was a terribly lonely existence for these Courtesans, even while being surrounded by all of these clients who claimed to love or even just care for the Courtesans.
Sometimes offering a caricature of affection can be a very cruel thing to do to somebody.
It makes me wonder what the rate of suicide was among Courtesans in the Edo period.
Not to mention most of them probably didn't have friends because other courtesans were their rivals. It's sad
Did you forget the last video where the guy literally sold his high position in Edo for his courtesan and got in trouble with the court? If anything actually loving them was the problem, not the opposite
@@nonamepasserbya6658 That's nice, but life for most hookers, back then and now, is not the same thing as "Pretty Woman."
And especially in a culture like Japan's that has traditionally placed so much value on honor and saving face, it wouldn't exactly go over well if word got around that a man abandoned his family/wife and/or rescued some whore from a brothel.
Johns don't go to whores for love, then or now.
@@nonamepasserbya6658obcesión no es amor
People don’t talk about it enough- but Linfamy art is incredible! It’s crazy to see how much it has change over time! It’s such a great art style! ^^
I love his videos.
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And are you sure? It looks the same. Are you actually making a joke? Because I can't see facial signs in a comment, so sarcasm isn't really fit as a joke in text form.
@@BrotherHood-xh9sgyou must be fun at parties
@@bidoofismyking8962 depends which party. A gathering where you discuss a more intelligent topic, yes I am.
A party where all you is talk about celebrities, get drunk for no real reason but to try to cope with life etc. No, not my thing.
I think he found someone else to draw for him
It’s sad how even at the top of the courtesan pyramid life’s still tough
i mean but is it? ive never been a supporter of any sort of porn. strictly because being a man, ive been around mostly men my whole life, and i wouldnt allow most of them anywhere near my sister. like, yeah being 30 (in the US btw), women in the sex industry are, not guaranteed obviously, but for the most part just treated like meat. an old pornstar died just recently at 43 and like 99% of the article only talked about her porn career. in essence, im saying most guys, at least to me in my country, just see women strictly as an object that they can relieve stress into, and thats it.
@@Reformed322is this meant to be for or against the idea that high class prostitutes had it hard??
Every life is tough, even at the top. This is no different.
Being a prostitute has always been a humiliating and miserable thing to do.
And the worse thing is, most these women didn’t choose this. They were sold to the brothel as little girls, where the pimps would just hang around and wait for them to get older.
((They would still usually start way too young for sex, because it’s not like a pimp cared about the emotional well-being of girls.)
"Tayu life was actually quite free... of liberties." OMG, that's hilarious!
The more I hear bout the roles and lives of those in the red light district in past Japan the more I feel bad for them.
9:12 the way you said "love" here is actually a slang word for money in Hungarian! It works so perfectly as a pun about money/love :P
Nothing better than lóvé
Man, the red light district was a whole world of its own.
I watch & rewatch his story telling videos whenever I am trying to fall asleep. Linfamy has become the grandma I never had.
Same!😂😂
Good show, as always. I especially like the OLD JAPANESE STORY *hint hint wink wink* framing device. I am curious as to why you've been so fond of the ladies of the night in the Edo period recently. Also, the "background noise of humping and sobs" line got me pretty good.
Sometimes I read about a topic and there are so many interesting aspects of it, it's hard to stop. I'm reading about the history of food in Japan now, so you might see more videos about that soon...
@@LinfamyI look forward to it, sounds really interesting and I'm sure entertaining too
@@Linfamyplease do. I would love to see that. BTW I would be satisfied with either one of those boxes. Very hard to choose.
@@Linfamy OMG, yes! I love the history of food!
"Godzilla and King Kong in kimonos" -Linfamy 2023
if someone were to draw that i would be so happy-
Since you mentioned love can ruin them & showing Komurasaki from One Piece reminds me that her name might come from Miura-ya Komurasaki which was a real life Oiran from the Edo period with a tragic love story that is immortalized in Kitagawa Utamaro's painting “The Lovers Miura-ya Komurasaki & Shirai Gonpachi” where Gonpachi committed crimes to buy her freedom but it caused his death which made the her committed suicide after learning of his death
Please do am episode om traditional clothing!! they are all just so beautiful, but on the internet there is no info about traditional japanese clothing, they just tell you about kimonos and call it a day! ;c
I feel like Linfamy has been uploading more recently and I'm here for it!
OOOOOOOO YAY NEW TRAGIC HISTORY VIDEO ABOUT A SUBJECT I NEED FOR A FIC! but also, awwww dang :( I just *know* they went through some more bad things
I'm glad to learn more about Tayu and Oiran, and Geisha! It'll help bring my fic to life
Good luck with your fic!
send the link once you are done with it if you don't mind:3
I don't know what he means by figure 8 pattern, so maybe it's not exactly the same, but the way he describes these Courtesans kicking their legs out when they walk immediately reminded me of the way Tifa walks in the original FF7. I always thought that her walk cycle was very odd, because she has this circular way she kicks her leg out and brings it back in as she moves forward. I wonder if that walk cycle was designed with the dayo in mind and what they meant for that to say about her character if anything :x
I wish there could be a resort that does the experience of being a palace princess or consort without the bad parts. It would be pricey but it seems so cool! XD and there's something like that in the UK where you can stay in a castle with servants!
Unfortunately that is all a pipe dream 😔
But it was all bad parts. Your life revolves around being forced to sleep with men you don't want and not being able to live the life you do want. it is called sex slavery for a reason.
There are Oiran Experience tourist things in Japan, but I think it's mostly getting dressed up in the outfit and doing a glamour photoshoot.
You could buy a Japanese castle and turn it into a tourist destination...I mean. Have 350000 dollars... laying around. You can own your own Japanese castle and you can hire hospitality staff to man the Tourist castle and turn it into a hotel. Closest thing or equivalent to an actual Japanese Lady and Lord experience...
Where’s that castle experience? I’m interested lol
Always happy to sit out the sponsoring segments made by Linfamy, is guaranteed entertaining! And love the tiny cookie crumbles on the face of the tayu holding a kawaii cup😁
This is one of the most interesting as well as entertaining channels on this platform! There's so many beautiful and fascinating artwork and I love the narrators humour too 😊 Sometimes I listen to this with my soon to be husband. My soon to be husband is half Finnish 🇫🇮 half Japanese 🇯🇵 and also, one of my favourite movies of all time is Takahashi Mike's Imprint. I'm so happy that I subscribed 😊
Thank you 🙏🫶 and greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
Cheers from USA! Glad you like the vids, and congrats on getting married soon :)
Edo Japan had tobacco? I guess that's what those Dutch traders were selling. What other foreign goods were coming into Japan during that period?
They also smoke hemp
Your videos are always so good and interesting.
I've been a fan for around 5 years and you always inpress me with these videos. Great job!!!
Wow it's been a while! Glad you're sticking around ❤️. If you want a free sticker or keychain, send me an email ;) linfamy1@gmail.com
Wah thank you very much! 😮😊
the king has posted once again
lol, that segue into the advert was great. If I was Tokyo Treat I'd double my promotions.
Its amazing how the second I get super into looking at the history behind oiran and tayuu, Linfamy uploads a ton of videos on the subject. I do have one question though:
I understand that tayuu and oiran are different, tayuu being pre 1750 and oiran being post (at least in yoshiwara). But how were they simular, and how were they different? Based on my research, their appearances differed in a few different ways, and oiran were, while still trained in the arts, much less trained than tayuu. Not to mention all the different types of rank within the oiran umbrella and ranks beneath the tayuu. It gets very confusing very quick.
I was laughing so hard at the sponsorship video! You really found the perfect time to put it in 😂😂😂
this had one of the funniest promos i've ever seen. Was laughing the end especially.
I love your intro imagery it gives me a nice warm cozy feeling. Suitable for this time of year.
Thank you your stories are just so wonderful °~•.☆.•~°
Glad you like em!
Never thought a history youtuber had a proper sexy personnality w/o really showing themselves before. Also the drawings and the narration, I don't have am epic description for it but they work perfectly. Thanks Linfamy
Woe is the courtesians
That sponsorship transition was so smooth omg 😂
They were free! ... of liberties
The narration takes so many left turns it's pretty much a circle ⭕😂
☺️🏆 p.s. I love the animation and storytelling is so awesome
I always love seeing these! Keep it up!
Are there any remaining records of stalking or kidnapping or trafficking sex workers in the Japanese history? Also cases of doing sex work outside a brothel or outside the pleasure district or in a patron's property or inn?
Were there any jilted lovers coming back to a brothel and murdering multiple sex workers or serial killers who singled out sex workers or sex workers who were serial killers?
I thought about that. I suppose yes.
Prostitution was illegal outside of Yoshiwara.
Love your videos. However part of me is disappointed that you didn't draw two different colored Godzillas in kimonos. :( Still you're great.
I really want Sakuraco and Tokyotreat boxes now
When red light had style
That was the smoothest transition to a sponsor ive ever seen. Like butter
After that ad, I’m totally buying a Sakuraco & Tokyo Treat box
The real reason why the Japanese are so willing to ship their snacks around the world is because that way no foreigners will come to Japan to buy that stuff themselves.
Still the foreigners keep coming.
It isn't helped that Japan temporarily banned foreign tourists travelling to Japan during the twilight of the pandemic and even when they lifted the restrictions the red tape for foreign tourists is still considerable. Also, a lot of places in Japan are economically dying: you think them doing crazy things like have animals as train conductors and making mosaics out of rice paddies was done for funsies? No, they did it to attract (foreign) money to their communities to stave off collapse...
Even for the best of the best, the oldest profession has never been an easy one.
Save for the pimps and madames calling the shots.
Baby, baby, baby.... where's my box? I gave you my box. Now, where's my friggin box? ❤
Lin love
i laughed hard when he said lo-ve coz in my dialect it means uncivilized 😆
I can't believe I watched the entire sponsor segment cause it was entertaining... Bro you are just born in the wrong era, you will fit in the Edo era perfectly XD
Reminded me of Korean pop stars that they are churning out - getting passed around by rich oligarchs, complete lack of freedom, steep ranks, adoration by the public... It's the Edo period all over again!
Yep, that’s a pretty excellent comparison. They present the idea of a flawless, wealthy, perfect girl but behind the scenes they’re abused, starved, and have literally no life. Since most idols start training in early teens, they’re just like courtesans. There’s also likely a tonne of sexual abuse behind the scenes as well
"It resulted in the most tragic event..."
Me: "Pregnancy?"
Don't know if I'm allowed to comment twice but these ad reads are getting wild!
Hmm 🤔... okay I will allow you to comment twice
@@Linfamy nice! Lol
You time travel. Go to a pleasure district and talk about food. Lol
I'd honestly watch a whole show with this art style
Well done on those ads, it was fun. Don't spend all your money on brothel