This stirred my interest in contemporary work! Grateful. She was engaging and it is clear that she is fluent in and in love with contemporary art. Stephanie
Being enlightened by these expert luminaries is like being lectured why you don't like warm beer or cold pizza. If you have to be told, you may as well not know.
Let me begin by telling you that when my brother was just starting school, he rebelled at the rules of spelling. Why did words have to be spelled in a particular way? Why couldn't he spell them as he wanted to spell them? He resented the rules and he resisted the authority of those who made them ! Keep this in mind. I think that Conceptual art comes from people who could not and would not do the difficult work required to become a 'traditional' visual artist. Can't master the necessary skills ? Can't understand how to use color to create mood? Can't master composition? Can't draw or understand human anatomy? Can't figure out how to express your feelings with image? Can’t be bothered? Well then, belittle the importance of those skills and debase the notion that they are a prerequisite to creating art. Instead, create an art genre that you CAN do. A new genre...conceptual art. Conceptual artists claim that IDEAS and CONCEPTS are the main feature of their art. They can slap anything together...a broom and a pile of sand... and call it ''conceptual art'' confident that viewers will find SOMETHING to think about it no matter how banal or trivial the artist's concept! There is no way conceptual art pieces can be judged. The promoters of this art have attacked the motives and credibility of authorities and critics who might disparage the work. They have rejected museums and galleries as defining authorities. They reject the idea that art can be judged or criticized . All of this results in a decline in standards. And when you jettison standards, quality suffers. There really IS such a thing as BAD art ! We know this only because we have standards and criteria by which such things can be evaluated. It seems that conceptual art comes down to a basic idea: No one has the right or authority to make any judgements about art ! Art is anything you can get away with ! A whole new language has been created to give the work an air of legitimacy and gravitas. Conceptual art is 'sold' to the unwary public with ....."ArtSpeak". ArtSpeak is a unique assemblage of English words and phrases that the International Art world uses but which is devoid of meaning! Have you ever found yourself confronted by an art gallery’s description of an exhibition which seems completely indecipherable? Or an artist’s statement about their work which left you more confused than enlightened? You’re not alone. Here are examples of ArtSpeak: ''..she manipulates architectural structures in order to deconstruct socially defined spaces and their uses and test novel and playful possibilities." Or ' 'Works that probe the dialectic between innovations that seem to have been forgotten, the ruinous present state of projects once created amid great euphoria, and the present as an era of transitions and new beginnings.'' Or ''Culling photos from high-school yearbooks, the artist confronts himself with dozens of pop-cultural subject positions (goth, hick, choirboy, thug), which he embeds in as many or more ritualized social forms (pantomime, religious- and secular-holiday celebrations, Halloween, a workplace motivational event) and then animates in a sequence of musical numbers ranging from genre-specific simulation to farcical complicity, from conceptual montage to delirious incantation. '' This language is meant to convince me that there is real substance to this drivel which is being passed off as 'art'. I don't buy it. Plenty of other people DO buy it. Not because they love the work. They are laying out enormous sums in the hope that their investment will bring them high returns in the future. One Jeff Koons conceptual piece is three basketballs suspended in a fish tank. Here is Koons' own ArtSpeak explanation of his floating basketball 'concept' verbatim: “ This is an ultimate state of being. I wanted to play with people’s desires. They desire this equilibrium. They desire pre-birth. I was giving a definition of life and death. This is the eternal. This is what life is like, also, after death. Aspects of the eternal” Rather lofty goals for 3 basketballs suspended in a fish tank!! It sold for $350,000. I wonder what it would have fetched without Koons' name attached to it. _______________________________________ Something radical has happened to the art “scene “ in the past 50 years. Cubism slid into non-representational art....what is often called Abstract art. Non-representational art is a legitimate and often profound genre. But to many people, it appeared as if this new style had no structure, principles or standards of evaluation. It’s markings seemed random and arbitrary. Something that anyone could do. Any composition of blotches or scribbles was “Abstract Art”. This was the slippery slope that led to the abandonment of standards in art. Art is what I say it is....and lots of people jumped on the art bandwagon. Anyone can be an artist. Anyone can mount a show. And who is to say if it has value? A tacit agreement forms among critics, galleries, publications and auction houses to promote and celebrate certain artists and styles. Objects with no artistic merit are touted and praised . Their value increases with every magazine article, every exhibition in a prestigious gallery. And when they come up for auction, sometimes the auction houses will lend vast sums to a bidder so that it appears as if the work of the particular artist is increasing in value. The upward spiral begins and fortunes are made. And many are reluctant to declare that the Emperor is, in fact, naked lest they appear boorish unsophisticated Philistines ! This now dominates the art market. The love of money is the root of all evil. It has corrupted politics. It has corrupted sport. It has corrupted healthcare. It has corrupted religion. And now it has corrupted art. But, there is reason to hope. As much of the wisdom of the Greeks and Romans was kept alive through the Middle Ages in small pockets of learning and culture, ateliers have sprung up around the world that are devoted to preserving and handing down the traditional visual arts: drawing, painting and sculpting to each new generation. And when this craze for conceptual art has burned itself out and when visual art is no longer looked on as mere decoration and when schools that have dissolved their art programs want to reestablish them again, the world will find these skills preserved through the atelier movement.
Not the sole duty, but the reason why an empty canvas can be successful, whereas a hyper-realistic portrait isn't. An artist can spend years mastering their pencil or their brush, but being successful requires this dialogue, that draws upon both historical and current ideas and issues and creates something relevant. There are millions of fantastic guitarists, but why aren't they famous? The Arts as a whole simply requires a great deal more than practice and skill to be considered important.
Hello Josh. Contact Maggie or Adrian for details of the young curators group. They are putting the finishing touches on the Frank Cohen Exhibition which will launch the opening of the new Museum. They have been in the driving seat and having had a sneak peak, the exhibition is going to be a bit special. You could influence the next one.
Hard to explain in one YT comment. Art, the kind you see in museums, is very seldom primarily about the skill involved in it's creation. It's more about the idea, the expression that is taking place. It's ever-evolving, taking new forms, mediums, and expressing ideas relevant to the NOW. Those artists that spend years tuning their painting skills are incredible! But they are mastering a way of expression that has already moved through the art world. No more space to go on, does that make sense?
Errr the comments on this video are hilarious! So much vitriol. Personally I see it as a language issue, so Art as a form of language, in which case you might need to learn a bit really, sorry. Maybe people think they know what Art is because they know what decoration is "Art should be beautiful etc." Interesting topic anyway... thanks for the upload
If the "idea" isn't obvious from the visual, why bother with the visual at all? Why not just use words? Oh that's right, the "idea" is so vacuous and banal, no-one would be interested.
@@gavinreid8351 You can still appreciate the beauty of these pieces and maybe the mastery of the artist that created them. The same can't be said about the contemporary art presented here.
To B Murphy: I agree with your comments 100%. My bottom line regarding contemporary art is this: Some people ( artists?) really do have charmed lives. The so called experts paying homage to their rubbish ( for the most part ) proves my point.
I read poems in High School that I was not able to understand, until my teacher began to explain. Some poems we studied for a whole week. At the end, I didn't necessarily LIKE the poem, but I understood it and I understood why *it was a poem*. Why it was art. Some art requires and explanation. Some doesn't. Don't see the logic in defining one as not art. I don't need to 'understand' an entire apartment in NYC filled with earth. But I do think the idea is 'cool', 'neat', 'bizarrely whacky'. And I can enjoy it at that basic level, alone. If someone wants to explain the 'deeper' meaning, fine. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If someone wants to explain what the artist intended, fine. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Contemporary/modern art only requires you to encounter it and see what happens. if nothing happens, move on to the next piece. But it is all art.
First, I watched only a few minutes of the video; and, pretty much despised everything I saw. Next, I paused the video, to go and read through the comments list below...just to see what others may have thought of it; by that time, I had already made up my mind that most of so called 'modern art' is nothing else but COMPLETE AND TOTAL CRAP! However, after very patiently staying and watching through the whole video...sheer curiosity made me wonder what else was in there to see...? I have to say some of these 'modern' artists work does, indeed, have some merit. Though, I must admit that I still tend to much prefer seeing 'classical' arts(Michaelangeo/Da Vinci/Picasso/Dali/-etc.), instead; as opposed to viewing merely 'conceptual' arts. More seriously, through, I believe 'conceptual' art does have the perfect right to exist; it's good to expand arts otherwise 'limited' boundaries; why on earth should art be only limited to drawing/painting/sculpture/pottery. A nature flower, to me, is a powerful artwork; though, it's neither drawn/painted/sculpted/pottery; then, one could stick such a flower upon the wall; and, call that 'art'; you could even put a huge price tag on it, say: £200,000.00! ;-) All I'm saying is, I'm not against 'modern art' as such; it's just that there's quality art/and, there's art that seems to have very little quality or worth at all. A lot of 'modern art' which I don't like is because it looks so incredibly worthless and weak(a child could have done that?!); or, even, downright utterly stupid. Like I recall visiting one top London Gallery; I think, it was Tate Modern; and, there was a video of a girl; jumping up and down going around a field...shouting in imitation of a horse: neighhhh, neighhhhhh...! I thought to myself that's sick; a total rip off and waste of public funds; such totally dumb work should never have made it into an official gallery at all. I mean, I do understand that too much censorship is not good; as then, art will never be allowed to expand itself; but, there really has to be some censorship/as opposed to absolutely none.
im a lifelong artist, a real one, the truth is when a con takes place, ppl with perceived authority will make knowlege seem distant by using vocabulary and other tactics, so it appears they have to hand down certain knowlege, a child without a brainwashed mind can tell you whats art
En realidad, la obsesión con hacer un arte lo más nuevo posible no enriquece el arte, sino que lo destruye. Si sólo piensas en el arte como transgresión, acabas rechazando lo propiamente artístico (no sea que se parezca siquiera un poco al resto... ¡tú siempre estás más allá, pero esos pobres mortales no comprenden!) y haciendo no-arte. La música es un ejemplo de esto: queriendo ir taaan lejos, lo que muchos músicos "de vanguardia" producen con sus absurdas técnicas (sea el matematismo dodecafónico, sea la aleatoriedad caótica) es simplemente ruido. La VERDADERA creación artística consiste en transmitir las emociones y mensajes de siempre, las eternas inquietudes (amor, trascendencia, melancolía, tragedia, denuncia) empleando los ricos recursos técnicos y estéticos heredados de la tradición, pero a la vez con una visión absolutamente personal, con una voz nunca oída anteriormente. Es un proceso a la vez intuitivo y racional, sutil, complejo, y mucho más natural que las bobadas intelectualoides con que se "justifican" la mayor parte de obras contemporáneas. El arte de verdad requiere talento, inspiración y esfuerzo. Mientras que colocar una maceta vacía en una sala de exposiciones y llamarla "sin título" es tan tentadoramente fácil...
Quote from “Modern art a Portrait of Mediocrity” - Amazon.com Difficulties for an aspiring Minimalist begin on the psychological front. The first thing he must overcome is the pain brought on by being publicly considered somewhat sub-moronic. This is easily overcome if he can get money and a following. The purists very first task, one far more difficult than the producing his paintings, is to convince potential buyers that his work is serious not ludicrous. The purer the minimalist work, the greater the necessary hype. This calls for the critical skills and experience in manufacturing new intellectual snake-oil; a formidable task since the works mustn’t compete with already famous Minimalists who have by now covered just about everything. No art dealer who has any interest in Mondrian or Rothko wants to back a clone.
Well you're looking at galleries such as the Tate, which have to be on the ball when picking who's work to display, and abstract or over simplified work are all the rage in the mainstream art world. You will have to go to smaller exhibitions to find the hidden gems that you want, it's just like how pop stars fill massive venues, but the unknown bands are found in smaller ones.
Sorry, but if you have to explain why art is art, or why a determined piece should be considered art, the piece has failed... if you have to go through a lengthy discourse to make someone understand the meaning of a work of art, that work of art has failed and it's worthless in all senses. Art, true art, needs no defenders, no validators and no sermons from the "initiated" attempting to illustrate de non-believers. Less face it, as far as contemporary "art" is concerned, there's to much garbage, fraud, posing, explaining and excusing.. but very little art. No, people... open your eyes and follow your instincts... in most cases the king is really naked.
"but if you have to explain why art is art, or why a determined piece should be considered art, the piece has failed" If a person is there to explain, then that means a person considered it art without explanation. If an art piece had an admirer without explanation, then it must be considered art to some degree and did not fail at all. This is a matter of appealing to a niche community in contrast to the appeal of the masses. It is curtain that people like this kind of art, and it is curtain that more people like the more conventional kinds of art which is what you consider true art. However, it is a logical fallacy to assume that one form is better simply because one is more popular than the other.
Hispanosuiza1 ''Less face it, as far as contemporary "art" is concerned, there's to much garbage, fraud, posing, explaining and excusing.. '' I would like to point out that there is a lot of explaining done about why contemporary art is ''garbage'' too. A work of art has not failed if it needs explanation, it just means that the public wants explanations. The art paradigm has shifted in 1917, and radically too. Duchamp showed us, with a simple urinal, that art has no definition. And, must I add, you pretending you do have a definition of what is art is not only pretentious, but also very diminishing in regards to art's liberty. Art is a human concept, made by humans and for humans, it should not have an absolute meaning. It is malleable, we can do whatever we please with it. Keep giving art a definition, and you're reducing one of the only liberties we truly have.
+Hispanosuiza1 If you see many art works that have existed, yes, you could enjoy just to see them, but without a further explanation, you will not understand it completely. I put you a contemporary example, Botero. You can see his pieces and enjoy them, but if you don´t know for example he has never done a "fat" person in his life, if you don´t know the reality in Colombia, if you don´t know a lot of relations of his youth and life, you will miss a big part of his work. I used to think as you do, but well, we all have opinions that are valid, but I have changed my point of view.
,, a diary is modern; a journal is contemporary,, Contemporary art was not born out of Modern art. It was an altogether separate movement that was happening in America beginning in the late 19th Century, and contrasting the Modern art movement that was occuring in Western Europe. In literary terms. it was born out of our different approaches to language; Europeans speak modern languages while Americans speak a contemporary one. I could accept that major overlying influences on the birth of Contemporary art are: the arrival of the oriental aesthetic in America as evidenced in the works of James Whisler; and, frontier journalism as evidenced by the literary arc from the journal of the Donner Party to the contemporary artist Mark Twain. Is Whitman truly contempo? If Joyce,s Ulysses stands as the masterpiece of Modern Art in the 20th Century, then Steinbeck,s The Grapes of Wrath is the Contemporary equivalent. In current terms, Stephen King is contemporary while Salman Rushdie would be modern. Another example? Japanese anime is Contempo while BBC is Modern. Sometimes artists cross their talents with style to supplant their artistic weakness as in the case of Hemingway and Dali, who were trying to create American Modern and European Contempo respectively pfft. Contempo was not born out of the Anti-Modern art movement. That movement occured by the displaced European expatriates post-war who now found themselves adopting NYC.
This presentation was interesting but really just provided descriptions of the artists activities or products. I have no more "understanding" of contemporary art now than I did before I watched. It shouldn't surprise anyone anymore that money is thrown at this sort of folly. We live in a world where Kim Kardashian, famous for the size of her ass, gets paid 200 million bucks to lend her name to a crappy computer game. In light of that, it's no big deal that a few hundred thousand are spent on Tracy Emin's dirty underpants or for someone else to frame her kid's shitty nappies. But it makes it kinda hard to sell the "relevance" of art to the rest of the world.
A very poor lecture. Nothing to be learned here, she just makes basic statements about all these works, not offering much context or insightful connections.
17 minutes in and I have heard very surface interpretations of various artists work? It's great to be informed of these potentially iconic artists but communicating no real background for any of their work and a lack of in depth interpretation of what the artist is communcating/instilling into their work doesn't really help me to understand contemporary art. This could be because I stopped early but I don't want to waste an hour :/
yeah yeah everybody trying to understand the meaning behind the modern art, but surprise surprise there is no meaning in putting tonnes of soil in a fucking room, what a shocker huh? if you wanna see "art" go see sistine chapel, haga sophia or go to louvre.
even graffiti requires more skill and talent than these pointless creations of unskilled untalented pretender's for they definitely. aren't artist's to call them as such would be an insult to all true artists that ever exited
Art ist not what you see, but what you make others see. This clip is utter crap. Why telling students who might be the most successfull artist and even explain art at all? go and count each grain of sand at a shore then come back and talk about this, but never about what art might be
It's outstanding how many people dismiss conceptual art as pure rubbish simply because of a lack of understanding and the fact they weren't brought up around the art culture. It has so much more depth than most people would like to be open to discover. Once found though, the contemporary art world is such an interesting reality.
‘Lawrence Weiner realized that text was sculptural.’ 39:50. No. Text is not sculptural. It is flat words on a flat wall. Lawrence Weiner realized wrong. Placing words on a wall at an angle doesn’t make it either sculpture or art. Just as writing a few lines of prose in “poem form” like what I am doing now doesn’t make it POETRY !! And just because true visual artists once used torn newsprint in a collage doesn’t mean that lines of printing taped to a wall is the same thing. It’s writing on a wall.
When I was 18 I entered a local art competition and won first prize, the judges thought my work perfectly reflected the post 9/11 anxiety in the world stage. In truth I did a last-minute painting the night before because I totally forgot about the whole thing. A dark silhouette of a serpent coiling itself around a burning city. Not because I wanted to make a statement, it's just that a dark skyline of rectangles is one of the quickest things to paint... added the serpent and some smoke plumes because the canvas felt kind of empty. Learned that day that the whole art critic scene is a joke, the message of art is entirely defined by what the viewer sees or wants to see in it. People who take it too seriously and genuinely think art has some mysterious transcendent meaning are just fooling themselves imo... Just as with everything else in life that hasn't got a readily apparent meaning we can't help but try to place what we see into a context that makes sense. But it's us create that meaning, not the art or even the artist.
+Eric Uijlen As an art student, i can tell you, that usually last minute works are the best ones. Mostly because, they are made more instinctively- the truth is, that human sense of aesthetic and proportion (golden ratio and things like that) are perceived on a basic level: the more you try to capture it on purpose, the more artificial it looks. Also, maybe you're being a bit closed about the whole situation: maybe if you did the painting earlier it wouldn't have this kind of energy to impress the jury? of course just like the beauty is in the eye of beholder, interpretation is the same. Their interpretation was based on the political issues, but if one of the judges said the painting expressed in a good way her sorrow and anxiety after, lets say, death of a relative? Would this interpretation be wrong? Think about it To evoke some feelings and interpretation at all, those are the signs of the good art work. As i can see, it was made by accident- but art is a work of accident in many ways, no painting ever looks like the one you imagined to make, it always differs from the one in your head. You only send the message, interpretation belongs to the viewer.
Actually, Eric, the process you describe *IS* the purpose/process of a great deal of contemporary art and it speaks to some of the criticism Hispansouiza mentions above. A great deal of contemporary art requires us to create the meaning. That's part of the process. It's also no different than when Botticelli and Michaelangelo worked: those "realistic" works, those "beautiful" works were created, in part, because they represented very specific IDEAS that only existed in the heads of those living at the time. Now...because they are realistically executed, we can look at them and instantly say "beautiful". But the process you describe--"it's us creat[ing] that meaning"--*is* because of the art or the artist. You say it's "not the art or even the artist". But it is. If only b/c that encounter, that process, that attempt to place meaning would not be happening if the artist hadn't taken the time to create that specific work. It's a bizarre transition to go from contemplating art as just an object--a pretty painting--to contemplating art as a process of contemplation or an exchange of ideas. At root, the EXPERIENCE of ENCOUNTERING a piece of art *is* an idea. And if you approach contemporary art in that way, you might find more satisfaction. If I sculpt a giant teapot, fifty feet high, it may not have any inherent "meaning", but each person who goes out to see it will encounter it and have an experience. And I don't mean some eye-opening or earth-shattering experience...(though maybe some will--like I said, it will be different for everyone) I simply mean they will have encountered it and the experience will be different for each. And if I build that giant teapot out of animal bones or steel or manure...those choices alone--by the artist-- will ensure a very specific experience. An important thing to remember is that we don't have to like everything we see. But it is important to realize WHY it *is* art. There's a LOT of contemporary art out there, even if we just consider what was made in the last 2 years. I love maybe 30% of it? BUT-- I understand why the other 70% exists, why it is worth exhibiting and why it's worth checking out. It's art. So the judges who encountered you art SAW something. They had an EXPERIENCE. It doesn't really matter if the experience they had was what you intended. It was real. That's what makes it art.
Not all art has to have a meaning. What is the meaning of Giorgio Morandi’s still life’s? And art without some idea behind it isn’t mere decoration either. It can be a unique vision of the world. I paint a bowl of apples one way...MY way. You paint it another way...your way. It’s like handwriting...a personal signature. It is a delight to create and a delight to look at. That’s all that’s needed to make it art.
I think we as artist just need to get out there and see what is happening now. Traveling too. That's the best way to understand the direction art is going. Just my opinion.
The Shrewsbury mentioned here is located in England. There are other Shrewsburys in the world. On the subject of name confusion, there seems to be no consensus around the names of artistic periods. It is my understanding that Modern art began with the Impressionists who challenged the established Academies and Salons and runs up until the 1960's when Conceptual art entered the scene. People who despise Conceptual art but love the Impressionists, Post-Impressionists and everything up until the 1960's often say they hate Modern art.
i sure do love art. I especially like that land art stuff. not enough artists are making statues and sculptures. I like things that are semi-permanent and might last thousands of years even it just looks like a stack of rocks.
Almost all art throughout history has got TH-cam videos explaining it. I watch many ,particularly Renaissance, PreRaphealite, Impressionism, Surrealism, Contemporary,.
This was really interesting! I have never been able to get a quick overview of contemporary art like this one, and now I feel like I know a bit of what is going on. : ) Thank you.
I have been studying Art for allmost 50 yrs. Contemporary art is a big co for Artists who have no Art talent. If you buy this stuff believe me you are being conned big time
Well, depending on your point of view, the Emperor's new clothes is the most beautiful thing ever created! (Or...you could believe in objective reality and admit that the Emperor just got scammed by a couple of smart advertisers/marketeers/rhetoricians. Better to have saved that money. Just my opinion.)
I can appreciate contemporary art. What I don't appreciate is balls of hair or empty canvas making the artist extremely rich and more so shown at major museums. While there are many artist that bust there asses to create there vision that are just neglected. That's we're my problem is. What makes these simple works that can be achieved by anyone. Because a narrative can be developed for any object. Why is that filling the galleries and and artist that paints or does sculpture thrown aside?
first thing to understand contemporary art is the greediness of galleries, critics and artists, together they form a mafia organization and sucks the money from rich idiots who are willing to pay with the money that they get from exploiting the poor. Since making a great work of art takes months fast painting/art for a fast food world is what is needed today, and anyone is an artist bravo!
How are things chosen? Politics, connections, nepotism, and on the rare occasion actual great art. Let's face it, if you took the names off and let the art stand on its own, most would be shredded by the critics, experts and populace. Reminds me of the art gallery showing where everyone ooohed and awwwed the works by the "experts", and collectors alike, at the emotional and intellectual depth of the works - until it was shown they were done by an elephant slopping the paint on the canvas.
Oh really?, so that´s "contemporary art" Hu?, then the best contemporary artists that i know of must be those little Biafran kids with their skins stuck to their bones and their bellies inflated as baloons full of worms getting in position to be ready to be devoured by the vultures, extraordinary exponents of what has happened within the timeless realm of human affairs.... definately an impressive work of unvoluntary biological self sculpting.... i wonder if somebody today knows what the word "bullshit" means or if this word is already lost in time and space temporarily, or.. to be fair and accurate "contemporarily".
It's so bad that she's such a terrible speaker because she doesn't help make a case for modern and contemporary art. People that were between liking it or not, or that had no idea what to think of it will surely get a bad impression. For anyone interested in some good lectures on the subject search for Kirk Varnedoe's lectures called Pictures of nothing, they're available for free on SoundCloud.
What a surprise, a lot of negative comments on a post about art. Somethings never change. Just a quick technical point: the lady is delivering a lecture at an art-appreciation event: e.g. talking to people; and that generally does require words.
,, a diary is modern; a journal is contemporary,, Contemporary art was not born out of Modern art. It was an altogether separate movement that was happening in America beginning in the late 19th Century, and contrasting the Modern art movement that was occuring in Western Europe. In literary terms. it was born out of our different approaches to language; Europeans speak modern languages while Americans speak a contemporary one. I could accept that major overlying influences on the birth of Contemporary art are: the arrival of the oriental aesthetic in America as evidenced in the works of James Whisler; and, frontier journalism as evidenced by the literary arc from the journal of the Donner Party to the contemporary artist Mark Twain. Is Whitman truly contempo? If Joyce,s Ulysses stands as the masterpiece of Modern Art in the 20th Century, then Steinbeck,s The Grapes of Wrath is the Contemporary equivalent. In current terms, Stephen King is contemporary while Salman Rushdie would be modern. Another example? Japanese anime is Contempo while BBC is Modern. Sometimes artists cross their talents with style to supplant their artistic weakness as in the case of Hemingway and Dali, who were trying to create American Modern and European Contempo respectively pfft. Contempo was not born out of the Anti-Modern art movement. That movement occured by the displaced European expatriates post-war who now found themselves adopting NYC.
Waste of time and playing hide-and-seek games with us...Trying to intelectualize why a blurry strike of blue in deep grey means " a corageous rehabilitation of the senses, embodied in cumulative sensations of obliterated past"....c´mon, give us a break. Let me go to my coffee mug and click delete.
what a hideous person. to stand there and accuse her audience, telling us that we are at fault for seeing no value in the current state of affairs. sod off.to recommend my favorite artists Gabriel Orozco, Margarita Dittborn, Gabino amaya cacho, Al borde and Julio Bittencourt
Good question i don't know if there is a proper answer in any case? It would be interesting if there were a doc on the topic, how and why things are placed in an Art show and or museum, how they are selected what is the background of the person or people who select the works? B Murphy that would be a good project for you since you brought it up?
The contemp. art world is an ongoing dialogue between artists and movements, forwards and backwards, throughout history for generations. If an empty canvas makes sense in its current context, then that art will have a better chance of being successful. It's like an ongoing series of intellectual trends that pay tribute or addresses an issue in relation to its previous trend(s). A piece of art isn't just an object, you must also include its context and the history of what it is trying to engage.
Understanding Contemporary Art? - Pointless exercise. Today anything can be Art. If you call it Art it's Art. If you put it in an Art Gallery it's art. The question then becomes is it any good, well good is subjective. So is there any skill involved ? No. Is it original Nothing is original everything is derivative. Bottom line, most of it is pretentious drivel. A severe case of the emperors new Art. Empty, trivial, vacuous, banal, tripe and hype from tired and talentless artists.
People would understand your lecture more if you called the works shown Contempory Crapism and the works speaks for itself which Contempory period is domonated by : non-art, anti-art and any one can do it art.
This stirred my interest in contemporary work! Grateful. She was engaging and it is clear that she is fluent in and in love with contemporary art.
Stephanie
"If it needs a long explanation to proclaim its art, it's probably bullshit." Quote from, "Modern Art a portrait of Mediocrity."
The sun, and the circles of butterflies were the best imo.
Being enlightened by these expert luminaries is like being lectured why you don't
like warm beer or cold pizza. If you have to be told, you may as well not know.
Let me begin by telling you that when my brother was just starting school, he rebelled at the rules of spelling.
Why did words have to be spelled in a particular way?
Why couldn't he spell them as he wanted to spell them?
He resented the rules and he resisted the authority of those who made them !
Keep this in mind.
I think that Conceptual art comes from people who could not and would not do the difficult work required to become a 'traditional' visual artist.
Can't master the necessary skills ?
Can't understand how to use color to create mood?
Can't master composition?
Can't draw or understand human anatomy?
Can't figure out how to express your feelings with image?
Can’t be bothered?
Well then, belittle the importance of those skills and debase the notion that they are a prerequisite to creating art.
Instead, create an art genre that you CAN do.
A new genre...conceptual art.
Conceptual artists claim that IDEAS and CONCEPTS are the main feature of their art.
They can slap anything together...a broom and a pile of sand... and call it ''conceptual art'' confident that viewers will find SOMETHING to think about it no matter how banal or trivial the artist's concept!
There is no way conceptual art pieces can be judged.
The promoters of this art have attacked the motives and credibility of authorities and critics who might disparage the work.
They have rejected museums and galleries as defining authorities.
They reject the idea that art can be judged or criticized .
All of this results in a decline in standards.
And when you jettison standards, quality suffers.
There really IS such a thing as BAD art !
We know this only because we have standards and criteria by which such things can be evaluated.
It seems that conceptual art comes down to a basic idea:
No one has the right or authority to make any judgements about art !
Art is anything you can get away with !
A whole new language has been created to give the work an air of legitimacy and gravitas. Conceptual art is 'sold' to the unwary public with ....."ArtSpeak".
ArtSpeak is a unique assemblage of English words and phrases that the International Art world uses but which is devoid of meaning!
Have you ever found yourself confronted by an art gallery’s description of an exhibition which seems completely indecipherable?
Or an artist’s statement about their work which left you more confused than enlightened? You’re not alone.
Here are examples of ArtSpeak:
''..she manipulates architectural structures in order to deconstruct socially defined spaces and their uses and test novel and playful possibilities."
Or '
'Works that probe the dialectic between innovations that seem to have been forgotten, the ruinous present state of projects once created amid great euphoria, and the present as an era of transitions and new beginnings.''
Or
''Culling photos from high-school yearbooks, the artist confronts himself with dozens of pop-cultural subject positions (goth, hick, choirboy, thug), which he embeds in as many or more ritualized social forms (pantomime, religious- and secular-holiday celebrations, Halloween, a workplace motivational event) and then animates in a sequence of musical numbers ranging from genre-specific simulation to farcical complicity, from conceptual montage to delirious incantation. ''
This language is meant to convince me that there is real substance to this drivel which is being passed off as 'art'.
I don't buy it.
Plenty of other people DO buy it.
Not because they love the work.
They are laying out enormous sums in the hope that their investment will bring them high returns in the future.
One Jeff Koons conceptual piece is three basketballs suspended in a fish tank.
Here is Koons' own ArtSpeak explanation of his floating basketball 'concept' verbatim:
“ This is an ultimate state of being.
I wanted to play with people’s desires.
They desire this equilibrium.
They desire pre-birth.
I was giving a definition of life and death.
This is the eternal.
This is what life is like, also, after death.
Aspects of the eternal”
Rather lofty goals for 3 basketballs suspended in a fish tank!!
It sold for $350,000.
I wonder what it would have fetched without Koons' name attached to it.
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Something radical has happened to the art “scene “ in the past 50 years.
Cubism slid into non-representational art....what is often called Abstract art.
Non-representational art is a legitimate and often profound genre.
But to many people, it appeared as if this new style had no structure, principles or standards of evaluation.
It’s markings seemed random and arbitrary.
Something that anyone could do.
Any composition of blotches or scribbles was “Abstract Art”.
This was the slippery slope that led to the abandonment of standards in art.
Art is what I say it is....and lots of people jumped on the art bandwagon.
Anyone can be an artist.
Anyone can mount a show.
And who is to say if it has value?
A tacit agreement forms among critics, galleries, publications and auction houses to promote and celebrate certain artists and styles.
Objects with no artistic merit are touted and praised .
Their value increases with every magazine article, every exhibition in a prestigious gallery.
And when they come up for auction, sometimes the auction houses will lend vast sums to a bidder so that it appears as if the work of the particular artist is increasing in value.
The upward spiral begins and fortunes are made.
And many are reluctant to declare that the Emperor is, in fact, naked lest they appear boorish unsophisticated Philistines !
This now dominates the art market.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
It has corrupted politics.
It has corrupted sport.
It has corrupted healthcare.
It has corrupted religion.
And now it has corrupted art.
But, there is reason to hope.
As much of the wisdom of the Greeks and Romans was kept alive through the Middle Ages in small pockets of learning and culture, ateliers have sprung up around the world that are devoted to preserving and handing down the traditional visual arts: drawing, painting and sculpting to each new generation.
And when this craze for conceptual art has burned itself out and when visual art is no longer looked on as mere decoration and when schools that have dissolved their art programs want to reestablish them again, the world will find these skills preserved through the atelier movement.
Not the sole duty, but the reason why an empty canvas can be successful, whereas a hyper-realistic portrait isn't. An artist can spend years mastering their pencil or their brush, but being successful requires this dialogue, that draws upon both historical and current ideas and issues and creates something relevant. There are millions of fantastic guitarists, but why aren't they famous? The Arts as a whole simply requires a great deal more than practice and skill to be considered important.
learnt a lot from this lecture and gained inspiration for future projects!
Genocide of Beauty: CULTURAL MARXISM in the Arts
A great lady's lecture ! Many thanks X
Shrewsbury creativity for the win! Should perhaps get us students more involved!!
Hello Josh. Contact Maggie or Adrian for details of the young curators group. They are putting the finishing touches on the Frank Cohen Exhibition which will launch the opening of the new Museum. They have been in the driving seat and having had a sneak peak, the exhibition is going to be a bit special. You could influence the next one.
Ah that's great, I would love to get invloved as i'm sure a will others. I look forward to the opening! It's good to more happening in shrewsbury.
Hard to explain in one YT comment. Art, the kind you see in museums, is very seldom primarily about the skill involved in it's creation. It's more about the idea, the expression that is taking place. It's ever-evolving, taking new forms, mediums, and expressing ideas relevant to the NOW. Those artists that spend years tuning their painting skills are incredible! But they are mastering a way of expression that has already moved through the art world.
No more space to go on, does that make sense?
Errr the comments on this video are hilarious! So much vitriol. Personally I see it as a language issue, so Art as a form of language, in which case you might need to learn a bit really, sorry. Maybe people think they know what Art is because they know what decoration is "Art should be beautiful etc."
Interesting topic anyway... thanks for the upload
Art shouldn't have to be explained
ffra ffa this is literally a personality trait conflict
Genocide of Beauty: CULTURAL MARXISM in the Arts
Daveed Genocide of Beauty: CULTURAL MARXISM in the Arts
If the "idea" isn't obvious from the visual, why bother with the visual at all? Why not just use words? Oh that's right, the "idea" is so vacuous and banal, no-one would be interested.
THANK YOU
The ideas and concepts behind historic art ,such as Renaissance and Baroque , are now largely lost to us, People still appreciate them.
@@gavinreid8351 You can still appreciate the beauty of these pieces and maybe the mastery of the artist that created them. The same can't be said about the contemporary art presented here.
Anyone knows where I can find the first lecture of this video? she mentions it. Thanks for the help.
great lecture but wtf is up with these comments?
To B Murphy: I agree with your comments 100%. My bottom line regarding contemporary art is this: Some people ( artists?) really do have charmed lives. The so called experts paying homage to their rubbish ( for the most part ) proves my point.
Bullshit always needs a long explanation to claim its art.
If you are looking for Bullshit, that is.
I read poems in High School that I was not able to understand, until my teacher began to explain. Some poems we studied for a whole week. At the end, I didn't necessarily LIKE the poem, but I understood it and I understood why *it was a poem*. Why it was art.
Some art requires and explanation. Some doesn't. Don't see the logic in defining one as not art.
I don't need to 'understand' an entire apartment in NYC filled with earth. But I do think the idea is 'cool', 'neat', 'bizarrely whacky'. And I can enjoy it at that basic level, alone. If someone wants to explain the 'deeper' meaning, fine. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If someone wants to explain what the artist intended, fine. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Contemporary/modern art only requires you to encounter it and see what happens. if nothing happens, move on to the next piece. But it is all art.
If you think you still don't get it ,the difference is the difficulty in possession.
First, I watched only a few minutes of the video; and, pretty much despised everything I saw. Next, I paused the video, to go and read through the comments list below...just to see what others may have thought of it; by that time, I had already made up my mind that most of so called 'modern art' is nothing else but COMPLETE AND TOTAL CRAP!
However, after very patiently staying and watching through the whole video...sheer curiosity made me wonder what else was in there to see...? I have to say some of these 'modern' artists work does, indeed, have some merit. Though, I must admit that I still tend to much prefer seeing 'classical' arts(Michaelangeo/Da Vinci/Picasso/Dali/-etc.), instead; as opposed to viewing merely 'conceptual' arts.
More seriously, through, I believe 'conceptual' art does have the perfect right to exist; it's good to expand arts otherwise 'limited' boundaries; why on earth should art be only limited to drawing/painting/sculpture/pottery. A nature flower, to me, is a powerful artwork; though, it's neither drawn/painted/sculpted/pottery; then, one could stick such a flower upon the wall; and, call that 'art'; you could even put a huge price tag on it, say: £200,000.00! ;-)
All I'm saying is, I'm not against 'modern art' as such; it's just that there's quality art/and, there's art that seems to have very little quality or worth at all. A lot of 'modern art' which I don't like is because it looks so incredibly worthless and weak(a child could have done that?!); or, even, downright utterly stupid. Like I recall visiting one top London Gallery; I think, it was Tate Modern; and, there was a video of a girl; jumping up and down going around a field...shouting in imitation of a horse: neighhhh, neighhhhhh...! I thought to myself that's sick; a total rip off and waste of public funds; such totally dumb work should never have made it into an official gallery at all. I mean, I do understand that too much censorship is not good; as then, art will never be allowed to expand itself; but, there really has to be some censorship/as opposed to absolutely none.
So you don't like modern art, but you like Picasso and Dali! Both of these are Modern art. Perhaps the term you are looking for is Contemporary Art.
nice.
im a lifelong artist, a real one, the truth is when a con takes place, ppl with perceived authority will make knowlege seem distant by using vocabulary and other tactics, so it appears they have to hand down certain knowlege, a child without a brainwashed mind can tell you whats art
En realidad, la obsesión con hacer un arte lo más nuevo posible no enriquece el arte, sino que lo destruye. Si sólo piensas en el arte como transgresión, acabas rechazando lo propiamente artístico (no sea que se parezca siquiera un poco al resto... ¡tú siempre estás más allá, pero esos pobres mortales no comprenden!) y haciendo no-arte. La música es un ejemplo de esto: queriendo ir taaan lejos, lo que muchos músicos "de vanguardia" producen con sus absurdas técnicas (sea el matematismo dodecafónico, sea la aleatoriedad caótica) es simplemente ruido.
La VERDADERA creación artística consiste en transmitir las emociones y mensajes de siempre, las eternas inquietudes (amor, trascendencia, melancolía, tragedia, denuncia) empleando los ricos recursos técnicos y estéticos heredados de la tradición, pero a la vez con una visión absolutamente personal, con una voz nunca oída anteriormente. Es un proceso a la vez intuitivo y racional, sutil, complejo, y mucho más natural que las bobadas intelectualoides con que se "justifican" la mayor parte de obras contemporáneas.
El arte de verdad requiere talento, inspiración y esfuerzo. Mientras que colocar una maceta vacía en una sala de exposiciones y llamarla "sin título" es tan tentadoramente fácil...
Quote from “Modern art a Portrait of Mediocrity” - Amazon.com
Difficulties for an aspiring Minimalist begin on the psychological front. The first thing he must overcome is the pain brought on by being publicly considered somewhat sub-moronic. This is easily overcome if he can get money and a following.
The purists very first task, one far more difficult than the producing his paintings, is to convince potential buyers that his work is serious not ludicrous.
The purer the minimalist work, the greater the necessary hype. This calls for the critical skills and experience in manufacturing new intellectual snake-oil; a formidable task since the works mustn’t compete with already famous Minimalists who have by now covered just about everything. No art dealer who has any interest in Mondrian or Rothko wants to back a clone.
My art is new & Connected to Social media .
Well you're looking at galleries such as the Tate, which have to be on the ball when picking who's work to display, and abstract or over simplified work are all the rage in the mainstream art world.
You will have to go to smaller exhibitions to find the hidden gems that you want,
it's just like how pop stars fill massive venues, but the unknown bands are found in smaller ones.
Amazing! Thank you so much!!!!!!!
This says it all....you have to make a video on understanding "contemporary art"?
why not make art we can understand
Name an art movement or period that does not have a video explaining it.
Understanding compmaturism. Regards POKRAK
great great. thank you.
cool stuff :)
Sorry, but if you have to explain why art is art, or why a determined piece should be considered art, the piece has failed... if you have to go through a lengthy discourse to make someone understand the meaning of a work of art, that work of art has failed and it's worthless in all senses. Art, true art, needs no defenders, no validators and no sermons from the "initiated" attempting to illustrate de non-believers. Less face it, as far as contemporary "art" is concerned, there's to much garbage, fraud, posing, explaining and excusing.. but very little art. No, people... open your eyes and follow your instincts... in most cases the king is really naked.
"but if you have to explain why art is art, or why a determined piece should be considered art, the piece has failed"
If a person is there to explain, then that means a person considered it art without explanation. If an art piece had an admirer without explanation, then it must be considered art to some degree and did not fail at all. This is a matter of appealing to a niche community in contrast to the appeal of the masses.
It is curtain that people like this kind of art, and it is curtain that more people like the more conventional kinds of art which is what you consider true art. However, it is a logical fallacy to assume that one form is better simply because one is more popular than the other.
Hispanosuiza1 ''Less face it, as far as contemporary "art" is concerned, there's to much garbage, fraud, posing, explaining and excusing.. ''
I would like to point out that there is a lot of explaining done about why contemporary art is ''garbage'' too.
A work of art has not failed if it needs explanation, it just means that the public wants explanations. The art paradigm has shifted in 1917, and radically too. Duchamp showed us, with a simple urinal, that art has no definition. And, must I add, you pretending you do have a definition of what is art is not only pretentious, but also very diminishing in regards to art's liberty. Art is a human concept, made by humans and for humans, it should not have an absolute meaning. It is malleable, we can do whatever we please with it.
Keep giving art a definition, and you're reducing one of the only liberties we truly have.
+Hispanosuiza1 If you see many art works that have existed, yes, you could enjoy just to see them, but without a further explanation, you will not understand it completely. I put you a contemporary example, Botero. You can see his pieces and enjoy them, but if you don´t know for example he has never done a "fat" person in his life, if you don´t know the reality in Colombia, if you don´t know a lot of relations of his youth and life, you will miss a big part of his work. I used to think as you do, but well, we all have opinions that are valid, but I have changed my point of view.
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oh shit i just created art
latte macchiato ..Yeah. But is it art?
,, a diary is modern; a journal is contemporary,,
Contemporary art was not born out of Modern art. It was an altogether separate movement that was happening in America beginning in the late 19th Century, and contrasting the Modern art movement that was occuring in Western Europe. In literary terms. it was born out of our different approaches to language; Europeans speak modern languages while Americans speak a contemporary one. I could accept that major overlying influences on the birth of Contemporary art are: the arrival of the oriental aesthetic in America as evidenced in the works of James Whisler; and, frontier journalism as evidenced by the literary arc from the journal of the Donner Party to the contemporary artist Mark Twain. Is Whitman truly contempo? If Joyce,s Ulysses stands as the masterpiece of Modern Art in the 20th Century, then Steinbeck,s The Grapes of Wrath is the Contemporary equivalent. In current terms, Stephen King is contemporary while Salman Rushdie would be modern. Another example? Japanese anime is Contempo while BBC is Modern. Sometimes artists cross their talents with style to supplant their artistic weakness as in the case of Hemingway and Dali, who were trying to create American Modern and European Contempo respectively pfft. Contempo was not born out of the Anti-Modern art movement. That movement occured by the displaced European expatriates post-war who now found themselves adopting NYC.
The separation USA Contemporary and Europe as Modern in the way you explain it is nonsensical.
Madame, Santiago Sierra lives in Mexico but is not Mexican. Min 35.
1:10:10 any idea who is the artist?
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This presentation was interesting but really just provided descriptions of the artists activities or products. I have no more "understanding" of contemporary art now than I did before I watched. It shouldn't surprise anyone anymore that money is thrown at this sort of folly. We live in a world where Kim Kardashian, famous for the size of her ass, gets paid 200 million bucks to lend her name to a crappy computer game. In light of that, it's no big deal that a few hundred thousand are spent on Tracy Emin's dirty underpants or for someone else to frame her kid's shitty nappies. But it makes it kinda hard to sell the "relevance" of art to the rest of the world.
SuperRSharp don't think so hard. You'll injure yourself.
what is the thumbnail i dont want to look
A very poor lecture. Nothing to be learned here, she just makes basic statements about all these works, not offering much context or insightful connections.
It's contemporary art if you have to explain it and it either doesn't make sense or is just banal.
Complete and utter crap.
tomen na biogramon tos o que. Ndaikatui ningo ahendu
17 minutes in and I have heard very surface interpretations of various artists work? It's great to be informed of these potentially iconic artists but communicating no real background for any of their work and a lack of in depth interpretation of what the artist is communcating/instilling into their work doesn't really help me to understand contemporary art. This could be because I stopped early but I don't want to waste an hour :/
lol sculpture made in the grass haha
yeah yeah everybody trying to understand the meaning behind the modern art, but surprise surprise there is no meaning in putting tonnes of soil in a fucking room, what a shocker huh? if you wanna see "art" go see sistine chapel, haga sophia or go to louvre.
i appreciate your argument, however, you cannot justify this as an artist's sole duty.
what a load of BS
even graffiti requires more skill and talent than these pointless creations of unskilled untalented
pretender's
for they definitely. aren't artist's
to call them as such would be an insult to all true artists that ever exited
i cant stand that person coughing in the background..
Art ist not what you see, but what you make others see. This clip is utter crap. Why telling students who might be the most successfull artist and even explain art at all? go and count each grain of sand at a shore then come back and talk about this, but never about what art might be
The sound is horrible
-Bullshit...
It's outstanding how many people dismiss conceptual art as pure rubbish simply because of a lack of understanding and the fact they weren't brought up around the art culture. It has so much more depth than most people would like to be open to discover. Once found though, the contemporary art world is such an interesting reality.
‘Lawrence Weiner realized that text was sculptural.’ 39:50.
No.
Text is not sculptural.
It is flat words on a flat wall.
Lawrence Weiner realized wrong.
Placing words on a wall at an angle doesn’t make it either sculpture or art.
Just as writing a few lines of prose in “poem form” like what I am doing now
doesn’t make it
POETRY !!
And just because true visual artists once used torn newsprint in a collage doesn’t mean that lines of printing taped to a wall is the same thing.
It’s writing on a wall.
When I was 18 I entered a local art competition and won first prize, the judges thought my work perfectly reflected the post 9/11 anxiety in the world stage. In truth I did a last-minute painting the night before because I totally forgot about the whole thing. A dark silhouette of a serpent coiling itself around a burning city. Not because I wanted to make a statement, it's just that a dark skyline of rectangles is one of the quickest things to paint... added the serpent and some smoke plumes because the canvas felt kind of empty. Learned that day that the whole art critic scene is a joke, the message of art is entirely defined by what the viewer sees or wants to see in it. People who take it too seriously and genuinely think art has some mysterious transcendent meaning are just fooling themselves imo... Just as with everything else in life that hasn't got a readily apparent meaning we can't help but try to place what we see into a context that makes sense. But it's us create that meaning, not the art or even the artist.
it's us, only us, nobody else, only us, yeahhh, we are contained, yeahh, independent wuhuhuhuhuhu
+Eric Uijlen As an art student, i can tell you, that usually last minute works are the best ones. Mostly because, they are made more instinctively- the truth is, that human sense of aesthetic and proportion (golden ratio and things like that) are perceived on a basic level: the more you try to capture it on purpose, the more artificial it looks.
Also, maybe you're being a bit closed about the whole situation: maybe if you did the painting earlier it wouldn't have this kind of energy to impress the jury?
of course just like the beauty is in the eye of beholder, interpretation is the same. Their interpretation was based on the political issues, but if one of the judges said the painting expressed in a good way her sorrow and anxiety after, lets say, death of a relative? Would this interpretation be wrong? Think about it
To evoke some feelings and interpretation at all, those are the signs of the good art work. As i can see, it was made by accident- but art is a work of accident in many ways, no painting ever looks like the one you imagined to make, it always differs from the one in your head. You only send the message, interpretation belongs to the viewer.
Actually, Eric, the process you describe *IS* the purpose/process of a great deal of contemporary art and it speaks to some of the criticism Hispansouiza mentions above. A great deal of contemporary art requires us to create the meaning. That's part of the process. It's also no different than when Botticelli and Michaelangelo worked: those "realistic" works, those "beautiful" works were created, in part, because they represented very specific IDEAS that only existed in the heads of those living at the time. Now...because they are realistically executed, we can look at them and instantly say "beautiful". But the process you describe--"it's us creat[ing] that meaning"--*is* because of the art or the artist. You say it's "not the art or even the artist". But it is. If only b/c that encounter, that process, that attempt to place meaning would not be happening if the artist hadn't taken the time to create that specific work.
It's a bizarre transition to go from contemplating art as just an object--a pretty painting--to contemplating art as a process of contemplation or an exchange of ideas. At root, the EXPERIENCE of ENCOUNTERING a piece of art *is* an idea. And if you approach contemporary art in that way, you might find more satisfaction.
If I sculpt a giant teapot, fifty feet high, it may not have any inherent "meaning", but each person who goes out to see it will encounter it and have an experience. And I don't mean some eye-opening or earth-shattering experience...(though maybe some will--like I said, it will be different for everyone) I simply mean they will have encountered it and the experience will be different for each. And if I build that giant teapot out of animal bones or steel or manure...those choices alone--by the artist-- will ensure a very specific experience.
An important thing to remember is that we don't have to like everything we see. But it is important to realize WHY it *is* art. There's a LOT of contemporary art out there, even if we just consider what was made in the last 2 years. I love maybe 30% of it? BUT-- I understand why the other 70% exists, why it is worth exhibiting and why it's worth checking out. It's art.
So the judges who encountered you art SAW something. They had an EXPERIENCE. It doesn't really matter if the experience they had was what you intended. It was real. That's what makes it art.
Not all art has to have a meaning. What is the meaning of Giorgio Morandi’s still life’s?
And art without some idea behind it isn’t mere decoration either.
It can be a unique vision of the world.
I paint a bowl of apples one way...MY way.
You paint it another way...your way.
It’s like handwriting...a personal signature.
It is a delight to create and a delight to look at.
That’s all that’s needed to make it art.
Eric Uijlen that’s why some things are just nice to look at without an idea.
I think we as artist just need to get out there and see what is happening now. Traveling too. That's the best way to understand the direction art is going. Just my opinion.
The Shrewsbury mentioned here is located in England. There are other Shrewsburys in the world.
On the subject of name confusion, there seems to be no consensus around the names of artistic periods.
It is my understanding that Modern art began with the Impressionists who challenged the established Academies and Salons and runs up until the 1960's when Conceptual art entered the scene.
People who despise Conceptual art but love the Impressionists, Post-Impressionists and everything up until the 1960's often say they hate Modern art.
Correct.
i sure do love art. I especially like that land art stuff. not enough artists are making statues and sculptures. I like things that are semi-permanent and might last thousands of years even it just looks like a stack of rocks.
As far as i'm concerned if you need a TH-cam video to explain what your artwork is, you've failed
Almost all art throughout history has got TH-cam videos explaining it. I watch many ,particularly Renaissance, PreRaphealite, Impressionism, Surrealism, Contemporary,.
I tried to last to watch the whole thing but all I see is Bullshit.
This was really interesting!
I have never been able to get a quick overview of contemporary art like this one, and now I feel like I know a bit of what is going on. : ) Thank you.
I have been studying Art for allmost 50 yrs. Contemporary art is a big co for Artists who have no Art talent. If you buy this stuff believe me you are being conned big time
this
ICBS (I Call BS) on all of it. just sayin'
Well, depending on your point of view, the Emperor's new clothes is the most beautiful thing ever created! (Or...you could believe in objective reality and admit that the Emperor just got scammed by a couple of smart advertisers/marketeers/rhetoricians. Better to have saved that money. Just my opinion.)
Art is the offering from the Artist. The Emperor remains, regardless of clothing.
The emperor's new clothes. That's all this is. Pure bollocks...
+ReviewEchUSA don't be a reactionary . its not the arts fault you don't like it
Go take a selfie!
I can appreciate contemporary art. What I don't appreciate is balls of hair or empty canvas making the artist extremely rich and more so shown at major museums. While there are many artist that bust there asses to create there vision that are just neglected. That's we're my problem is. What makes these simple works that can be achieved by anyone. Because a narrative can be developed for any object. Why is that filling the galleries and and artist that paints or does sculpture thrown aside?
first thing to understand contemporary art is the greediness of galleries, critics and artists, together they form a mafia organization and sucks the money from rich idiots who are willing to pay with the money that they get from exploiting the poor.
Since making a great work of art takes months fast painting/art for a fast food world is what is needed today, and anyone is an artist bravo!
How are things chosen? Politics, connections, nepotism, and on the rare occasion actual great art. Let's face it, if you took the names off and let the art stand on its own, most would be shredded by the critics, experts and populace. Reminds me of the art gallery showing where everyone ooohed and awwwed the works by the "experts", and collectors alike, at the emotional and intellectual depth of the works - until it was shown they were done by an elephant slopping the paint on the canvas.
Oh really?, so that´s "contemporary art" Hu?, then the best contemporary artists that i know of must be those little Biafran kids with their skins stuck to their bones and their bellies inflated as baloons full of worms getting in position to be ready to be devoured by the vultures, extraordinary exponents of what has happened within the timeless realm of human affairs.... definately an impressive work of unvoluntary biological self sculpting.... i wonder if somebody today knows what the word "bullshit" means or if this word is already lost in time and space temporarily, or.. to be fair and accurate "contemporarily".
Wow... that is complete bullshit, ou shit i forgot ... i dont get it ... i dont understand...im sry but my bullshit sensors just doing its thing
It's so bad that she's such a terrible speaker because she doesn't help make a case for modern and contemporary art. People that were between liking it or not, or that had no idea what to think of it will surely get a bad impression. For anyone interested in some good lectures on the subject search for Kirk Varnedoe's lectures called Pictures of nothing, they're available for free on SoundCloud.
What a surprise, a lot of negative comments on a post about art. Somethings never change. Just a quick technical point: the lady is delivering a lecture at an art-appreciation event: e.g. talking to people; and that generally does require words.
This is such a good lecture, but I really wish that one dude would just use a damn cough drop already. It was distracting and it kept happening.
riveting stuff, wish he could have talked for another 3 hrs.I really need my sleep
,, a diary is modern; a journal is contemporary,,
Contemporary art was not born out of Modern art. It was an altogether separate movement that was happening in America beginning in the late 19th Century, and contrasting the Modern art movement that was occuring in Western Europe. In literary terms. it was born out of our different approaches to language; Europeans speak modern languages while Americans speak a contemporary one. I could accept that major overlying influences on the birth of Contemporary art are: the arrival of the oriental aesthetic in America as evidenced in the works of James Whisler; and, frontier journalism as evidenced by the literary arc from the journal of the Donner Party to the contemporary artist Mark Twain. Is Whitman truly contempo? If Joyce,s Ulysses stands as the masterpiece of Modern Art in the 20th Century, then Steinbeck,s The Grapes of Wrath is the Contemporary equivalent. In current terms, Stephen King is contemporary while Salman Rushdie would be modern. Another example? Japanese anime is Contempo while BBC is Modern. Sometimes artists cross their talents with style to supplant their artistic weakness as in the case of Hemingway and Dali, who were trying to create American Modern and European Contempo respectively pfft. Contempo was not born out of the Anti-Modern art movement. That movement occured by the displaced European expatriates post-war who now found themselves adopting NYC.
According to the major auction houses Contemporary is a term for post 1945 art.
I'd brush by the woman, just sayin'. ;P
the amount of bullshit these days is unhealthy..my brain hurts
A sad waste of human life and energy. Awaken!
Self indulgent, irrelevant, nonsense.
I think Santiago Sierra is from Spain...
Great stuff, bring me back to my years in art college.
Genocide of Beauty: CULTURAL MARXISM in the Arts
Waste of time and playing hide-and-seek games with us...Trying to intelectualize why a blurry strike of blue in deep grey means " a corageous rehabilitation of the senses, embodied in cumulative sensations of obliterated past"....c´mon, give us a break. Let me go to my coffee mug and click delete.
It's a bit dry, isn't it?
what a hideous person. to stand there and accuse her audience, telling us that we are at fault for seeing no value in the current state of affairs. sod off.to recommend my favorite artists Gabriel Orozco, Margarita Dittborn, Gabino amaya cacho, Al borde and Julio Bittencourt
Idiots. SHE IS THE ARTIST. THIS IS A PERFORMANCE ART. Read all the comments, People's reactions is the purpose of art.
Good question i don't know if there is a proper answer in any case? It would be interesting if there were a doc on the topic, how and why things are placed in an Art show and or museum, how they are selected what is the background of the person or people who select the works? B Murphy that would be a good project for you since you brought it up?
this is an excellent lecture.
The contemp. art world is an ongoing dialogue between artists and movements, forwards and backwards, throughout history for generations. If an empty canvas makes sense in its current context, then that art will have a better chance of being successful. It's like an ongoing series of intellectual trends that pay tribute or addresses an issue in relation to its previous trend(s). A piece of art isn't just an object, you must also include its context and the history of what it is trying to engage.
Understanding Contemporary Art? - Pointless exercise. Today anything can be Art.
If you call it Art it's Art. If you put it in an Art Gallery it's art.
The question then becomes is it any good, well good is subjective. So is there any skill involved ? No. Is it original Nothing is original everything is derivative.
Bottom line, most of it is pretentious drivel. A severe case of the emperors new Art. Empty, trivial, vacuous, banal, tripe and hype from tired and talentless artists.
agreed 100%, if there are people who think like you, why they still get away with that crap? lets hope internet changes some things.
its all a game, we already know it, only we can do is to spread consciousness about the banality of it.
I would have enjoyed seeing more painting.
I would have enjoyed seeing actual art.
OMG this is hilarious!
People would understand your lecture more if you called the works shown Contempory Crapism and the works speaks for itself which Contempory period is domonated by : non-art, anti-art and any one can do it art.
What crap.
No wonder you dine alone!