The Suspicious cards are some of the best design I've seen in a long time in HS, and so fitting for arena as well. All the mindgames and it's such a fun card for both sides, which is very rare. The warlock game was hilarious where warlock uses the weapon, goes to too low hp, and Trump never even used his.
in ladder Alchemist is just decent stats that adds a good card to your hand, the spell is almost always weaker in your opponent's hand because it lacks synergy
I think it would have been easy to fall into the trap of making it so that if the enemy guesses it, you get nothing (instead of both getting it anyway), which is a problem a lot of cards fall into. Pretty much all cards need to be guaranteed to do Something to be good, even if the value of that something can vary wildly. A card needs to have a very very large payoff to be worth considering if it has a chance to just literally do nothing. Basically, by making it so that the fail condition is a benefit for your opponent instead of a detriment to you, they perfected the balance to make the cards like, actually useable.
I hate when they play against me because they always pick the best card, and I'm like WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT??????? That or it's 2 cards that I don't want in my hand and a card that could be good, and probably isn't the correct choice, but I pick it anyway because the 2 other I don't want in my hand, and in the end it cleary wasn't the correct choice so whatever...
Yes, because he realized that the second best one would be a lot worse And then too much time had passed to sell it as a snap pick, so he committed to acting like he’s contemplating his decision
he obviously meant in terms of win percentage from that point forward. I agree with him that those 5 health would result in a negligible difference in that specific case. basically 5 health are NOT worth the same in every situation. but of course chat doesn't care about that. SMOrc.
I see his point of health doesn't matter until it matters but incremental damage matters. That's the whole reason you go face instead of always trading. 1/6 their max health is a large amount.
@@Chaelsonen Yeah, the more I play arena and consistently see very mediocre rewards, the more I feel like the rewards aren't even worth the time I put into it. I value my time for playing 10+ games more than a 100 gold profit.
It happened rarely with misdirection but yeah, it’s the inherent narrow design space of attack values being tied with retaliation damage. You can’t attack a character with attack and not take damage or lose divine shield, unless you’re immune. All effects that give heroes attack read "this turn", and weapons have this weird closing effect on the opponent’s turn (what is that even supposed to represent in warcraft lore?) it’s just a workaround around the inital design instead of designing the core of the game with that in mind in the first place. But that discussion probably belongs in 2013, we’re way past that in 2022
@@excelsiusprime there was a bug with choose both and that wisp spell that let you use it on an empty board. A hero with 5 permanent attack dealt 5 damage to all attackers
I think he was referring to the fact that they're a warlock that likes to tap so even if at 30 they will be doing dmg to themselves and if they use thebane as well then its good for him since they'll be low hp at that point
pls dont show the outcome b4 even clicking the video, trump is the only streamer were his editor actually puts matches were he loses so its always entertaining cause you never know when there are gona be royal fk ups and rope turns.
Sunken studet gets 3 random transfer student effects. Would have been so cool. Makes me so sad that the new versions of transfer student is over. Was my favorite arena card.
Lol, it bothered me that trump decided to magescribe and dragons roar instead of steward and look for any damage card to combo with execute on the 10-1 game lol
The secret is to take absolutely insane early plays and play them early. Sounds silly but it's really the way - Curvestone may have died in Constructed but its spirit lives eternal in Arena.
I've quit hs a while back, cause it's quite hard to keep up as a f2p. But since I got this recommended somehow guess I could watch, love seeing all these familiar cards mixed in with infusion(whatever that is).
Same, haven’t played in years but this got recommended cuz I’ve been watching some rarran videos. No clue what infusion does but was able to follow enough. Plus watching trump suffer as he is forced to actually make quick decisions is always fun
As Reality Master Rogue says - HSReplay and HearthArena. HSReplay is a straight up data aggregation website, so the number is just the winrate of decks containing the card. HearthArena is an Arena helper program that takes your deck into account and adjusts its card scores depending on synergies with your deck or what the deck needs (so if you have no 2 drops it'll boost 2 drop scores) to try to help you craft a better deck. Basically straight data vs a predictive algorithm
Why does trump's webull ad annoy me so much more than any other ad? Idk if its the delivery or the stupid 34$ thing but I can hear the millionth content creator do their 100th Nord VPN ad read just fine and tune it out.
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The Suspicious cards are some of the best design I've seen in a long time in HS, and so fitting for arena as well. All the mindgames and it's such a fun card for both sides, which is very rare.
The warlock game was hilarious where warlock uses the weapon, goes to too low hp, and Trump never even used his.
They're so simple yet so fun
in ladder Alchemist is just decent stats that adds a good card to your hand, the spell is almost always weaker in your opponent's hand because it lacks synergy
I think it would have been easy to fall into the trap of making it so that if the enemy guesses it, you get nothing (instead of both getting it anyway), which is a problem a lot of cards fall into. Pretty much all cards need to be guaranteed to do Something to be good, even if the value of that something can vary wildly. A card needs to have a very very large payoff to be worth considering if it has a chance to just literally do nothing.
Basically, by making it so that the fail condition is a benefit for your opponent instead of a detriment to you, they perfected the balance to make the cards like, actually useable.
I hate when they play against me because they always pick the best card, and I'm like WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT??????? That or it's 2 cards that I don't want in my hand and a card that could be good, and probably isn't the correct choice, but I pick it anyway because the 2 other I don't want in my hand, and in the end it cleary wasn't the correct choice so whatever...
warlock got baited.
31:40 "I have to plan to very quickly take the second best card"
32:10 "ok what I'm going to do is think about it for a very long time"
I loved that
Yes, because he realized that the second best one would be a lot worse
And then too much time had passed to sell it as a snap pick, so he committed to acting like he’s contemplating his decision
But the Maul was clearly the best choice with the spells in his hand.
@@m-ray5956 yeah idk why he thought the Maul was bad.
@@m-ray5956 I wouldn't call it the best choice, but it was quite usable
What difference does 24 and 19 make?
Lethal Trump, lethal.
"What's the difference between them being at 24 or 19?"
5 health, Trump. The difference is 5 health.
he obviously meant in terms of win percentage from that point forward. I agree with him that those 5 health would result in a negligible difference in that specific case.
basically 5 health are NOT worth the same in every situation. but of course chat doesn't care about that. SMOrc.
That 5 attack weapon going into the 1/1 killed me
The madman!
Remember trump's lesson, it's infinite damage over time!
Seriously man. At least he recognized that it mattered
I see his point of health doesn't matter until it matters but incremental damage matters. That's the whole reason you go face instead of always trading. 1/6 their max health is a large amount.
I too am a 1/1 getting killed by a 5 attack weapon
Awesome run! The arena rewards should be the ones getting a buff though. 12 wins and they still give golden commons and golden rares feels bad.
just saw the ending, thought the same thing, 12 wins and you got like what an extra packs worth of gold? for all that effort, sheeeeeesh
@@Chaelsonen Yeah, the more I play arena and consistently see very mediocre rewards, the more I feel like the rewards aren't even worth the time I put into it. I value my time for playing 10+ games more than a 100 gold profit.
I got a legendary, 400 gold and a pack for getting 12 wins
@@epicroblox8639 like that bots about to tell you, you got lucky
Golden cards are imo the best rewards for Arena players, it's the only thing you can bring into the mode - but yeah, the gold should be higher
36:12 Fool's Bane is such a flavorful card. The only one who played that game ended up paying with their face
19:53 it's been years and I never knew a hero would deal damage back if a minion attacked out of its turn into a weapon
It's a rare scenario but it makes sense since you have an attack stat during your turn
It happened rarely with misdirection but yeah, it’s the inherent narrow design space of attack values being tied with retaliation damage. You can’t attack a character with attack and not take damage or lose divine shield, unless you’re immune.
All effects that give heroes attack read "this turn", and weapons have this weird closing effect on the opponent’s turn (what is that even supposed to represent in warcraft lore?) it’s just a workaround around the inital design instead of designing the core of the game with that in mind in the first place.
But that discussion probably belongs in 2013, we’re way past that in 2022
@@Icetea-2000 the closing of the weapon is to show its inactive (during that turn) so they have a reason to say your hero doesnt have an attack stat
Mark my words they gonna print a legendary weapon that active on every turn, sooner or later it's gonna happen.
@@excelsiusprime there was a bug with choose both and that wisp spell that let you use it on an empty board. A hero with 5 permanent attack dealt 5 damage to all attackers
32:09 "I guess the opponent doesn't have that much HP"... Trump, they're at full health. I think the Renathal decks are starting to get to him.
I think he was referring to the fact that they're a warlock that likes to tap so even if at 30 they will be doing dmg to themselves and if they use thebane as well then its good for him since they'll be low hp at that point
@@garbo_lawyer4879 And he was right too considering he dealt nearly 0 damage to him and he still died.
Warlocks burn through hp like no other. As seen in the video.
He meant because it’s warlock they have lots of self damaging effects
I liked it when a 2/3 lady went "Tara-tara-ta-taaaaaaaaaaaa".
ah yes the arcanite reaper killing a silver hand recruit classic trump
even the opponent used truesilver to hit face when the weapon is only 4 attack, hitting a 1/1 with a 5 attack weapon is trolling
Superb editing on Jen’s part to speed through the afk Hunter but still make it interesting
1:09:46 for the absolute best transition I've ever seen.
pls dont show the outcome b4 even clicking the video, trump is the only streamer were his editor actually puts matches were he loses so its always entertaining cause you never know when there are gona be royal fk ups and rope turns.
Totally agree!
At 14:10 the inspector is being "bribed", a really nice flavor touch
The warrior buff deck has me at diamond 1 and 3 stars. If I wasn't a coward I'd probably be legend
why are you a coward?
Push for legend before meta catches up
Just do it
Update, Diamond 1 with 0 stars bwomp bwomp
32:07 "I guess the opponent doesn't have that much hp"
The opponent: *Literally at 30 health*
That Paladin missed lethal at 11:55
Trump should keep in mind that Dinner Guest is a good '4 drop' because if you play it on 4 it summons a worgen or a safety inspector with it
When you have no answer for the 23/3… despair
Why spoil the run in the thumbnail??
worst thumbnail they could make ever
Often on trump's channel it's just a fake out, so you never know
Actually I clicked because I wanted to watch a 12 win run
fools bane actually killed that guy as he killed himself with it lmao.
First game the opponent missed lethal
what’s our thoughts and feels on raising the music volume just a tad maybe 5-7%?
40:13 I have never heard of getting a free weapon from a battlecry your opponent paid for on their turn being too slow.
Wow Transfer Student’s effect is pretty boring for Sunken City. You’d think it at least would have “dredge” or a sunken effect.
Can someone tell me how does Trump get the winrates for his draf picks hover over the cards from both heartharena and hsreplay?
Sunken studet gets 3 random transfer student effects.
Would have been so cool.
Makes me so sad that the new versions of transfer student is over.
Was my favorite arena card.
Would really prefer no spoilers in the thumbnail :(
Man I hope you get to a better place where you can do stuff like this without any worry on how many people like your stuff
I just wanna point out that the paladin in the first match didn't pick imbued axe but the baton instead when Sus pirate was played
The order of options is randomized isn't it?
Whats the plugin for see the value of each card while you are choosing them?
ye
Thanks Ahmet Solgun, very informative
Nice edit at 30:30
NO TOMB CAN HOLD ME!
39:01 I immediately said "Not if you draw Cruel Taskmaster" and then you immediately drew it. It's not luck when you call it ;)
omg whyy the 5 damage on the 1-1
Would you cast fireball on a 1-1?
would you cast a Free fireball on a1 -1? No
59:43 At 9 wins facing a paladin doesn't use overkill. While I face opponents better than him at 1-2.
he couldnt overkill, he would have to leave the 7-4 up.
He couldn't use overkill as he wouldn't have enough damage to kill the berserker
he was sniping, too.
Подобається дивитися контент по арені, дякую.
What's your add on for the Arena pls?
What is the arena overlay that you use?
31:50
That was so hilarious Trump thinking he could make a decision quickly.
Lol, it bothered me that trump decided to magescribe and dragons roar instead of steward and look for any damage card to combo with execute on the 10-1 game lol
"managed to pick up some 3s and 4s" (more 2s than all 3 and 4s combined)
I hate playing Arena but love watching others play it; especially the Mayor of Value Town.
Obrigado por trazer este conteúdo de arena, é muito bom! Continue!
how many games did we open worgen infiltrator?
Hey could anyone tell me what addon trump uses here? tia
Somehow I can’t figure out how to play arena. Every second game is over at turn 5 because my opponent has an absolutely insane early play.
The secret is to take absolutely insane early plays and play them early. Sounds silly but it's really the way - Curvestone may have died in Constructed but its spirit lives eternal in Arena.
Geez what was with the BM at 20:35?
Whats this arena helper he is using?
I've quit hs a while back, cause it's quite hard to keep up as a f2p. But since I got this recommended somehow guess I could watch, love seeing all these familiar cards mixed in with infusion(whatever that is).
Same, haven’t played in years but this got recommended cuz I’ve been watching some rarran videos. No clue what infusion does but was able to follow enough. Plus watching trump suffer as he is forced to actually make quick decisions is always fun
What arena helper does he run?
30:33 HAAAAAAAAX!!
there is something about seeing Trump being happy. Makes me smile | no homo
What arena helper is he using
He’s using both hearth arena and hearthstone replay. I believe
Appreciated.
Not control
what is HSR and HA under the cards when he is building his deck? haven’t watched hearthstone in a while!
Hearthstone Replay and HearthArena, presumably
As Reality Master Rogue says - HSReplay and HearthArena. HSReplay is a straight up data aggregation website, so the number is just the winrate of decks containing the card. HearthArena is an Arena helper program that takes your deck into account and adjusts its card scores depending on synergies with your deck or what the deck needs (so if you have no 2 drops it'll boost 2 drop scores) to try to help you craft a better deck. Basically straight data vs a predictive algorithm
praise engagement
We need platebreaker back
30:30 wtf i was so scared
Just lost on 11 wins :'(
35:50 made me laugh so hard :D Poke :D
Enrage warrior is strong rather the buffs yes
what kind of jokes do vegetables like?
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artijokes
Those were some really underwhelming Rewards
dead on turn 6 because he didn't coin 3
god damn it trump stop trying to sell me stocks! and also so late in the video -.-
Think the pally first game miss lethal
I hope I'm one of Trump's lucky winners.
Wooo! Go you!
There doing another patch nerf/buff wtf
Why does trump's webull ad annoy me so much more than any other ad? Idk if its the delivery or the stupid 34$ thing but I can hear the millionth content creator do their 100th Nord VPN ad read just fine and tune it out.
I loved the run but Jens these thumbnails are too much SPOILERS
фанат стаса, все ясно
First
I cried when he wasted 5 damage on that 1\1 minion i was like don't you dare hit.....omg why are you dumb??!!
Lol
firth
Buffs don't matter the game still gives me shit cards I can never use and I still lose early do this game is still shit