Much better to use the Pythagorean Theorem to find 90 deg to a point on a line, my friend. Take a lil tip from an old parking lot painter. Just use 3,4,5 or any multiple of those three numbers ( like {x4} 12,16,20 or {x10} 30,40,50) Measure 3 on the baseline, 4 on the perpendicular line, and 5 on the hypotenuse. Its simple once you do it a few times and far more accurate. Love your channel. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback, I have used that method a few times and it does work really good but you need to make sure your measurements are on point... It's pretty cool how it works though, simplicity is always best! ✌
Both methods work great for the “measure twice, cut once” prep work. Invaluable tips from both of you. Thank you for sharing. I’ll be teaching my crew some smart new double checks for efficiency and productivity on site.
Hey man! LOVE the projects! Just found your channel not too long ago and have been binging. I’m up in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada! Just want to say I’ve been landscaping similar to you guys the last couple years. I love coming home after a long day of laying pavers in the summer sun to watch you guys lay some pavers. 😅 The company I work for has only used Techo Bloc products for years now. The Blu 45/60/80 paver skids are organized in that way so you can follow one of the two techo bloc random modular pattern layouts. If you use all the pavers in one row of the skid it gives you one module of the pattern. Best part is at the end it looks random and there’s no long joint lines anywhere! 👍 Can’t wait to see the projects for the rest of season! God Bless!
Thanks for the feedback and the support of the channel! Glad you like the videos and it is always good to hear from others in the trade. I typically do not like the random patterns that the manufacturers give you because they have 4 ways and you can usually pick up on the fact that it is a pattern. But I did just look up the pattern you are talking about and it looks pretty good, no 4 ways or long joint lines. That is awesome! I will have to give it a try next time to see how it looks in person. Thanks for the tip brother, God Bless! ✌
@@TheChristianHardscaper Question I haven't heard you answer, might not have watched all videos yet. LOL What lb hammers do you use for tamping down the pavers as you lay them? Thanks again
Nice video series and channel. Could you explain the difference in stones apllications such and names ; base layer, paveor base, base sand and the final sand on top!? Thanks
I have a few smaller retaining wall videos on my channel but nothing crazy. I have done plenty of good size walls, just not since I started filming for TH-cam really... ✌
Either you get lucky with these projects being in such a prime location, or you only choose jobs that have easy access. Seems like every job I do I have to work within such confined spaces in neighborhoods and alley ways. Wonder if you ever had to deal with that sorta thing in your career? Good work man love the vids.
I do get lucky sometimes, but I have done my fair share of tight jobs... Fortunately in the area that I run my business, it is a lot of suburban neighborhoods. Which is what I love and why I moved here and started my business here ✌
Yo haha I run a 12 by myself… I screed the stone and sand.. sand is what I use under my pavers. Then I run a taper over the whole thing with industrial grade landscape fabric as a barrier 👌🏻 little bit extra work. But when you left them pavers it’s super fast
If you are compacting at the end, how much higher do you set the pavers to account for the compaction? If you are doing a raised patio with a wall, you would really have to account for that i would imagine to ensure a flush finish? Love the videos I have learned a lot!
Yes, we compact the pavers into the bedding material after we lay them. We account for 1/4" of compaction. So when meeting another structure, set the screed rails for 1/4" higher than the structure you are meeting. Glad the videos are helpful! ✌
your videos are amazing, and I have watched them multiple times and learned a lot. I currently live in central MA and was wondering where you purchase your HPB or chip stone from?
Thank you, I am glad they are helping you! I buy my chip stone currently from (Robbins Garden Center) in Oxford, MA. They call it (Granite Chips). They deliver as well.
Thank you! I agree that it is a uncommon shape but fits perfect in the area we put it in. I myself would probably down something a little different but you are correct that the customer wants what they want. ✌
When setting and compacting the pavers into this stone, how much do they drop? I am doing an elevated patio with a retaining block wall and want the pavers to be flush with the wall cap when done. Doing a 4" thick road base gravel and bedding into 1/4 rice stone. Trying to figure out my screed height in the bedding stone
Can you use chipstone instead of sand with any kind of paver. A contractor told me sand has to be used unless it is a permeable paver. I have a walkway sitting in gravel/sand that has popped and sunk so your method seems the way to go when it is re-installed.
You absolutely can. That contractor probably does not have much experience with chip stone. I have been using this method for 5 years now and so have 1000's of other contractors. It is tested and proven, even when it is not a permeable application. It will work great for your circumstance and allow much better water drainage
What are your thoughts on landscape fabric as a barrier between the compacted stone layer and HPB layer? Patio is 4" above natural grass line but i dug down 4" to give it an 8" base. Forgot to lay a barrier between dirt and base stonw layer.
It would be tough to wedge them back up. Typically you need to bust the concrete off with a hammer, lift up the border pavers and add more bedding material to level it off again. Then lay the pavers back in and hammer back into place. Then install new concrete ✌
How do you think 1/8 inch clean crushed stone would work for the bedding layer, still using 3/4 crushed on the base? I have other applications for the 1/8 inch stone, so it would be nice to not buy two products if one will work.
I haven't actually ever used 1/8" clean crushed stone... That must be pretty cool stuff. However, that may be too small and have more of a chance to migrate into the base stone as well as not drain so good because of how fine it is... But I honestly don't know because I have never tried it.
So my patio will run along the side of an existing concrete sidewalk. If you don't compact the chipstone before laying pavers how high should I set the pavers above the concrete so that after the deadblow and after final compaction it is the same height as the sidewalk?
Just curious what’s the median price range for your time I don’t see a video into how you calculate all that but curious as I live in Auburn Ma and getting quotes
For basic paver installs, I charge $20 - $25 per sq ft installed. I live in Oxford Ma and would be happy to get you a quote. You can email me at (TheChristianHardscaper@gmail.com)
Good morning I have a unique question. I live in an area were there are literally tons and tons of rock. MY patio that I’m building flows into an outcropping so I was just wondering if you had any ideas on how to finish off the edge. I was thinking of cutting one of a paver to a 45 undercut and letting it flow into the natural rock, but I’m not sure what to do. If you have any ideas I would appreciate any suggestions. thank you very much. I can send a picture if you’re unclear of what I mean thank you, karen
That sounds like a difficult obstacle but natural outcroppings can be a beautiful addition to a hardscape. You could either cut the pavers to fit tight which would look great or you could leave 12-18 inch beds in between the pavers and rocks which you could fill in with decorative stone or mulch, then add plants or planting boxes / pots....
it takes away the ability to make minor adjustments in the pavers to keep them on plane (flat). Its better to have the chip stone flat and on plane then compact the pavers into it so it settles a uniform amount without making dips and waves. Also the pavers sink a tiny bit into the chip stone to aid in the interlok stability so you are not fully relying on the joint sand for strength.
@@TheChristianHardscaper great video as always, I have one question. Watching all your videos, I now have the confidence to redo my paver sidewalk that is sinking. But if I compact the pavers after putting in the poly, won’t that cause the concrete to break free from the perimeter edge? Or perhaps even crack it because I’m slightly sinking the pavers on the perimeter by compacting? Thanks for all your hard work and your videos.
It is a Brazilian tool. There are a few local landscape supply yards that have them shipped from Brazil and sell them here. They are amazing tools. I have not been able to find anywhere online that you can buy them yet.... They are very popular in other countries, Mike is correct about that. ✌
True, manufacturers should be taking note.
Much better to use the Pythagorean Theorem to find 90 deg to a point on a line, my friend. Take a lil tip from an old parking lot painter. Just use 3,4,5 or any multiple of those three numbers ( like {x4} 12,16,20 or {x10} 30,40,50) Measure 3 on the baseline, 4 on the perpendicular line, and 5 on the hypotenuse. Its simple once you do it a few times and far more accurate. Love your channel. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback, I have used that method a few times and it does work really good but you need to make sure your measurements are on point... It's pretty cool how it works though, simplicity is always best! ✌
Both methods work great for the “measure twice, cut once” prep work. Invaluable tips from both of you. Thank you for sharing. I’ll be teaching my crew some smart new double checks for efficiency and productivity on site.
That was a lot of work to get done in just one day and only two guys.... TEAM WORK!!!!..... looks good as usual. 👍👍👍
That was a very productive day, they aren't all like that... So I will take it for sure! Thanks brother! ✌
Love the channel and the things you say crack me up.
Thank you, glad to hear it! ✌
Nice work! I
Hey man! LOVE the projects! Just found your channel not too long ago and have been binging. I’m up in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada! Just want to say I’ve been landscaping similar to you guys the last couple years. I love coming home after a long day of laying pavers in the summer sun to watch you guys lay some pavers. 😅 The company I work for has only used Techo Bloc products for years now. The Blu 45/60/80 paver skids are organized in that way so you can follow one of the two techo bloc random modular pattern layouts. If you use all the pavers in one row of the skid it gives you one module of the pattern. Best part is at the end it looks random and there’s no long joint lines anywhere! 👍 Can’t wait to see the projects for the rest of season! God Bless!
Thanks for the feedback and the support of the channel! Glad you like the videos and it is always good to hear from others in the trade. I typically do not like the random patterns that the manufacturers give you because they have 4 ways and you can usually pick up on the fact that it is a pattern. But I did just look up the pattern you are talking about and it looks pretty good, no 4 ways or long joint lines. That is awesome! I will have to give it a try next time to see how it looks in person. Thanks for the tip brother, God Bless! ✌
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Turning out great brother.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
Dude I love the Way you bust Benny....
😂 Gotta do it! ✌
Thank you for this video! I love your work and ALL the details you provide in these videos! I have learned A TON!
My pleasure! I'm glad the videos have been helpful, thanks for the feedback! ✌
@@TheChristianHardscaper Question I haven't heard you answer, might not have watched all videos yet. LOL What lb hammers do you use for tamping down the pavers as you lay them? Thanks again
I use 5.5lb (ABC) Hammers. (ABC) is the manufacturer. They work great and they have so many different sizes you could buy.
An amazing job 💯. Thanks 👍
Thank you! ✌
Looks great!
Thanks! ✌
Good work, yeah the squares always seems to be piling up!
Yes they do... Thanks! ✌
Looks fantastic dude
Thanks!
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Nice video series and channel. Could you explain the difference in stones apllications such and names ; base layer, paveor base, base sand and the final sand on top!? Thanks
Haha I thought it was just me. I was on the last few layers of my 3 pallets too when I realized I had to ration my big rectangles
Yea man, pretty crazy... less squares would be great
Good stuff as always. Can you do a retaining wall how to video? Or do you not get a lot of those to do? God Bless
I have a few smaller retaining wall videos on my channel but nothing crazy. I have done plenty of good size walls, just not since I started filming for TH-cam really... ✌
Either you get lucky with these projects being in such a prime location, or you only choose jobs that have easy access. Seems like every job I do I have to work within such confined spaces in neighborhoods and alley ways. Wonder if you ever had to deal with that sorta thing in your career? Good work man love the vids.
I do get lucky sometimes, but I have done my fair share of tight jobs... Fortunately in the area that I run my business, it is a lot of suburban neighborhoods. Which is what I love and why I moved here and started my business here ✌
Yo haha I run a 12 by myself… I screed the stone and sand.. sand is what I use under my pavers. Then I run a taper over the whole thing with industrial grade landscape fabric as a barrier 👌🏻 little bit extra work. But when you left them pavers it’s super fast
Nice man, That's a big screed for one guy... ✌
@@TheChristianHardscaper not an evryday thing or I’d ✌🏻
Amazing job as always Christian! I just want to know what kind of Chalk line do you use when you have to make some cuts?
Thank you! We use red crayon pencils that you can buy from Home Depot. I actually do not use chalk lines really...
If you are compacting at the end, how much higher do you set the pavers to account for the compaction? If you are doing a raised patio with a wall, you would really have to account for that i would imagine to ensure a flush finish? Love the videos I have learned a lot!
Yes, we compact the pavers into the bedding material after we lay them. We account for 1/4" of compaction. So when meeting another structure, set the screed rails for 1/4" higher than the structure you are meeting. Glad the videos are helpful! ✌
your videos are amazing, and I have watched them multiple times and learned a lot. I currently live in central MA and was wondering where you purchase your HPB or chip stone from?
Thank you, I am glad they are helping you! I buy my chip stone currently from (Robbins Garden Center) in Oxford, MA. They call it (Granite Chips). They deliver as well.
Nice work. I want to put in a round flagstone patio on slight slope. How far beyond the patio should I lay my 3/4" base and chip stone?
Thank you, I typically go 6-8 inches past the edge of the patio with the base prep.
I’m still looking for a 4 way intersection lol
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Looks great. High quality work. I'm not so sure about the location and shape, but hey, the customer wants what the customer wants.
Thank you! I agree that it is a uncommon shape but fits perfect in the area we put it in. I myself would probably down something a little different but you are correct that the customer wants what they want. ✌
i do 5 corners
Should have showed and explained the third and forth pipe you did level that would have made your video complete, thanks
When setting and compacting the pavers into this stone, how much do they drop? I am doing an elevated patio with a retaining block wall and want the pavers to be flush with the wall cap when done. Doing a 4" thick road base gravel and bedding into 1/4 rice stone. Trying to figure out my screed height in the bedding stone
1/4" higher is perfect for meeting a retaining wall cap. ✌
Can you use chipstone instead of sand with any kind of paver. A contractor told me sand has to be used unless it is a permeable paver. I have a walkway sitting in gravel/sand that has popped and sunk so your method seems the way to go when it is re-installed.
You absolutely can. That contractor probably does not have much experience with chip stone. I have been using this method for 5 years now and so have 1000's of other contractors. It is tested and proven, even when it is not a permeable application. It will work great for your circumstance and allow much better water drainage
What are your thoughts on landscape fabric as a barrier between the compacted stone layer and HPB layer? Patio is 4" above natural grass line but i dug down 4" to give it an 8" base. Forgot to lay a barrier between dirt and base stonw layer.
You certainly can, but I think at that point, you don't need to put fabric.
What is best way to separate edge pavers stuck to concrete? Is there any way to just wedge the sunken border up??
It would be tough to wedge them back up. Typically you need to bust the concrete off with a hammer, lift up the border pavers and add more bedding material to level it off again. Then lay the pavers back in and hammer back into place. Then install new concrete ✌
Hey Christian , do you tamp dowd the chip stone ?
We don’t. We screed it loose and compact the pavers into it after.
How do you think 1/8 inch clean crushed stone would work for the bedding layer, still using 3/4 crushed on the base? I have other applications for the 1/8 inch stone, so it would be nice to not buy two products if one will work.
I haven't actually ever used 1/8" clean crushed stone... That must be pretty cool stuff. However, that may be too small and have more of a chance to migrate into the base stone as well as not drain so good because of how fine it is... But I honestly don't know because I have never tried it.
So my patio will run along the side of an existing concrete sidewalk. If you don't compact the chipstone before laying pavers how high should I set the pavers above the concrete so that after the deadblow and after final compaction it is the same height as the sidewalk?
You want to screed the chip stone so that the pavers are about 1/4 inch higher then the sidewalk. Then settle them down to height with a hammer. ✌
Do you take out galvanized pipes afterwards and fill in for them?
Yes, we remove the pipes and fill in the voids with more chip stone. Then we trowel it smooth to match the screeded areas.
Just curious what’s the median price range for your time I don’t see a video into how you calculate all that but curious as I live in Auburn Ma and getting quotes
For basic paver installs, I charge $20 - $25 per sq ft installed. I live in Oxford Ma and would be happy to get you a quote. You can email me at (TheChristianHardscaper@gmail.com)
What paver are you using for the border?
It is (Blu 60) like the main pavers but only the small size which can be sold separately and in (Onyx Black)
Hey man how high can I go with the 3/8” chip stone bedding layer? It’s sitting on geo grid with 3/4” beneath that
I try not to use more than 1.5 inches of the chip stone.
Good morning I have a unique question. I live in an area were there are literally tons and tons of rock. MY patio that I’m building flows into an outcropping so I was just wondering if you had any ideas on how to finish off the edge. I was thinking of cutting one of a paver to a 45 undercut and letting it flow into the natural rock, but I’m not sure what to do. If you have any ideas I would appreciate any suggestions. thank you very much. I can send a picture if you’re unclear of what I mean thank you, karen
That sounds like a difficult obstacle but natural outcroppings can be a beautiful addition to a hardscape. You could either cut the pavers to fit tight which would look great or you could leave 12-18 inch beds in between the pavers and rocks which you could fill in with decorative stone or mulch, then add plants or planting boxes / pots....
Why dont you conpact the chip stone? Was curious to what the benift would be to not compacting chip stone vs. compacting it before laying pavers?
it takes away the ability to make minor adjustments in the pavers to keep them on plane (flat). Its better to have the chip stone flat and on plane then compact the pavers into it so it settles a uniform amount without making dips and waves. Also the pavers sink a tiny bit into the chip stone to aid in the interlok stability so you are not fully relying on the joint sand for strength.
You are correct Mike, I also don't compact because once you start screeding, it loosens all the chip stone again anyway.
@@TheChristianHardscaper that too lol.
@@TheChristianHardscaper great video as always, I have one question. Watching all your videos, I now have the confidence to redo my paver sidewalk that is sinking. But if I compact the pavers after putting in the poly, won’t that cause the concrete to break free from the perimeter edge? Or perhaps even crack it because I’m slightly sinking the pavers on the perimeter by compacting? Thanks for all your hard work and your videos.
Is it necessary to dig deeper to count for the slope?
Yes, you want the sub soil to be sloped the same way your patio will be sloped.
@@TheChristianHardscaper thank you your vids are very helpful
What is brand is the 8ft screeding level
That screed level is made by (Kesson). I really like it, it is light and easy to handle. ✌
I suggest trying the Milwaukee concrete screed/level. They have the vials with 1% and 2% slope. Only downside is they only come in 2,4,6 foot length.
What tool is that with the little half circle. The one that’s bigger than a hoe but smaller than a come along
Look up Krafse hoe. He names it one of the vids not sure what its called but that should be a close tool. Its a common style in other countries.
It is a Brazilian tool. There are a few local landscape supply yards that have them shipped from Brazil and sell them here. They are amazing tools. I have not been able to find anywhere online that you can buy them yet.... They are very popular in other countries, Mike is correct about that. ✌
i really like the base materials but the Techo Bloc 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Techo Bloc isn't too bad, There are plenty of pavers I like better but these Blu 60 slabs are pretty nice. ✌
Great channel! Wondering if your technique using crushed rock for the base is also suitable for laying natural stone on mortar?
Thank you very much! This technique absolutely works for natural stone and mortar ✌
@@TheChristianHardscaper thanks! Subbed to your channel