Yes, everything you said is true and biblically sound. The American church, by and large, is backslidden and dying and you have accurately identified some of the causes. When a church redefines Christianity itself to fit a nationalistic and cultural agenda, swaps its mission for culture wars, disregards its professed values and embrace any means, no matter how hostile, repugnant and ungodly, to 'WIN' political power, it has lost its way! May the Lord show us mercy and bring us back to Himself. Excellent presentation, brother; God bless you.
I read an article week before election on a website I once respected telling Christian’s to ignore every bad character trait of Trump and vote for him anyway. I had no words left after that.
Great message with valid points brother! I have been having these conversations with many here is SC after hearing many Christ-less messages and more messages surrounded around prosperity and politics. The church must shed itself of this and move forward in the power of the Holy Spirit.
This is so Good bro. I sent this to some ministers I know. I pray this message brings conviction to some maga evangelicals. I'm a minister and some told me and others they would go to hell for not supporting Trump. I replied Ephesians 2:8-10 2 Corinthians 5:17-21 lol. Your ministry is a blessing bro. Many of these people don't read or know the bible for themselves and totally rely on their pastors or TH-cam people for the Truth Acts 17:10-11 and John 8:31-36. Have blessed safe day bro.
I agree with you, there is an attempt by the enemy crept in unaware. I do believe the Church was established by Christ and was the same yesterday, is today and will be tomorrow. It is people who choose to align themselves with Christ or not. The defining is not with the body of Christ, but rather with those who desire to be a member. Today, the sword that Christ sent to divide, continues to separate the sheep from the goats and it very obvious in our day.
This is a paraphrase, but I saw it put like this: The church needs to be the church to show the world that it's the world. Right now, we are just another "team" clamoring for power, and are indistinguishable from the world.
Bro this was good.. such a similar heart beat especially in the past 5ish years. I recently did a video close to the elements you hit on in this specific video thought. Completley agreed with this whole heartedly
Great point. Everybody believes in Jesus, but they don't believe him. Jesus is the only figurehead of a faith whose words are mostly ignored in deference to Paul. This has been reality for a very long time.
Just bought the kindle version. Just finished Pilgrims Progress where the protagonist of the story passes through Vanity Fair (which represents the world and all it's lusts) . He refuses to take part in its values and is thrown in prison. The stance we believers should have toward this redefined church system is this: I will not comply.
I agree 100% that the church is being re-defined in exactly the way described here. I would argue that if the church is re-defined in this way, it is in fact that Christianity is being re-defined and thereby become apostate. They are no longer Christians. Jesus warned and Paul warned that there would be a great falling away before the 2nd coming. I almost fell of my chair when you said that the job of the Christian is to call people into relationship with Jesus. Say that at a MAGA rally and see how it goes over. So funny !
Can't ignore the race component, and the general differences between the African American church (in general) and the "evangelical" churches. You definitely hear political messages at black churches, but the messages are not centered on American exceptionalism.
I think that too many churches lead people to worship the Bible, not the Prophet. I believe the part in the Bible that says Christ is the path to God. I don't believe the Bible is the path.
On another you tube channel I gently encouraged a person to not use his physical Bible like a talisman with magic power. Oh my word, the pushback I received from that. People telling me that the physical Bible in their hand was the closest they were going to get to the real God in heaven. I had no words left.
The great falling away. It has been redefined as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) they have their own mandate called 7 Mountain mandate. It's been going on for many years now. It has gotten very political since DJT did away with the Johnson ammendment in 2017. It was a favor to evangelicals to push a candidate while remaining tax free. Just like Satan offered Jesus the world, they fell for it and took the offer to run the world. Your message is on point. They are def pushing their agenda.
Church in essence is Adam's body the temple of the Holy Spirit. So called churches today are denominations more like religions. So divided and created for the founders' agenda. Thus they lack the Spiritual essence.
Yes, everything you said is true and biblically sound. The American church, by and large, is backslidden and dying and you have accurately identified some of the causes. When a church redefines Christianity itself to fit a nationalistic and cultural agenda, swaps its mission for culture wars, disregards its professed values and embrace any means, no matter how hostile, repugnant and ungodly, to 'WIN' political power, it has lost its way! May the Lord show us mercy and bring us back to Himself. Excellent presentation, brother; God bless you.
Can you say "Laodicea", everybody?
You nailed it.That was 1 of the most well articulated TH-cams defining what's going on in the American church.Keep up the great work you're doing
I read an article week before election on a website I once respected telling Christian’s to ignore every bad character trait of Trump and vote for him anyway. I had no words left after that.
Great message with valid points brother! I have been having these conversations with many here is SC after hearing many Christ-less messages and more messages surrounded around prosperity and politics. The church must shed itself of this and move forward in the power of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you. I agree. We need to pivot. Badly.
@ Amen brother
This is so Good bro. I sent this to some ministers I know. I pray this message brings conviction to some maga evangelicals. I'm a minister and some told me and others they would go to hell for not supporting Trump. I replied Ephesians 2:8-10 2 Corinthians 5:17-21 lol. Your ministry is a blessing bro. Many of these people don't read or know the bible for themselves and totally rely on their pastors or TH-cam people for the Truth Acts 17:10-11 and John 8:31-36. Have blessed safe day bro.
Thank you for the support and sending! Praying for us all. I’ve heard that same thing. It’s unbelievable the way this has affected the body of Christ.
What an incredibly well-articulated and astute commentary! You absolutely hit the nail on the head!!
An important conversation that will lead to more conversations, in my opinion.
Blessings....
That’s the goal. More conversation and hopefully change!
What are the "American values" that Trumpf preaches?
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I'm starting to look for the fruits of the spirit.
I see very little of it in Christians.
Absolutely
I agree with you, there is an attempt by the enemy crept in unaware. I do believe the Church was established by Christ and was the same yesterday, is today and will be tomorrow. It is people who choose to align themselves with Christ or not. The defining is not with the body of Christ, but rather with those who desire to be a member. Today, the sword that Christ sent to divide, continues to separate the sheep from the goats and it very obvious in our day.
This is a paraphrase, but I saw it put like this:
The church needs to be the church to show the world that it's the world.
Right now, we are just another "team" clamoring for power, and are indistinguishable from the world.
God bless you for your clarion voice proclaiming the truth! I appreciate you and what you’re doing; keep it up !
Thank you so much! Blessings!
As always, this was 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Bro.
Thank you for talking about this.
No worries. Appreciate it!
Excellent commentary. Thank you!
Amen 🙏
Bang on target! A Word from the LORD
Amen! 🙏
Amen Good Word👏👏👏💯🙌
Amen! 🙏
Bro this was good.. such a similar heart beat especially in the past 5ish years. I recently did a video close to the elements you hit on in this specific video thought. Completley agreed with this whole heartedly
This is on point. Good word, brother.
Thank you! 🙏
Just want to clarify something. Don’t forget the grace and mercy of God is at the heart of the gospel. It is a free gift offered to all mankind.
Great point. Everybody believes in Jesus, but they don't believe him. Jesus is the only figurehead of a faith whose words are mostly ignored in deference to Paul. This has been reality for a very long time.
The great falling away
Thanks for speaking truth
Amen!
Have you read, “The Kingdom, The Power and The Glory” by Tim Alberta?
I have not but he is on my list. I hear it’s amazing.
@ The book compliments what you’ve been talking about regarding American Christianity.
@@ralphclark460I’ll definitely check it out!
Just bought the kindle version. Just finished Pilgrims Progress where the protagonist of the story passes through Vanity Fair (which represents the world and all it's lusts) . He refuses to take part in its values and is thrown in prison. The stance we believers should have toward this redefined church system is this: I will not comply.
I agree 100% that the church is being re-defined in exactly the way described here. I would argue that if the church is re-defined in this way, it is in fact that Christianity is being re-defined and thereby become apostate. They are no longer Christians. Jesus warned and Paul warned that there would be a great falling away before the 2nd coming. I almost fell of my chair when you said that the job of the Christian is to call people into relationship with Jesus. Say that at a MAGA rally and see how it goes over. So funny !
True! Thats a scary thought but unfortunately likely very true. 🙏
Is there any chance to connect with you? Need advice but no one to speak to about the things you’re addressing in your videos.
Thechurchdropout@gmail
Can't ignore the race component, and the general differences between the African American church (in general) and the "evangelical" churches.
You definitely hear political messages at black churches, but the messages are not centered on American exceptionalism.
I have another video coming on that. Just scratching the surface. More to come.
@@churchdropout awesome thanks for the content. Nice work.
@@churchdropoutI hope you will address the problem that most Americans believe in race, even though it is neither biblical nor scientific.
@@markdouglas8073 INDEED!
Also…we are not the redeemers, Christ is still the redeemer. We just point to Him.
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I think that too many churches lead people to worship the Bible, not the Prophet.
I believe the part in the Bible that says Christ is the path to God. I don't believe the Bible is the path.
I agree. Many worship the Bible and not the Messiah. Amen. 🙏
On another you tube channel I gently encouraged a person to not use his physical Bible like a talisman with magic power. Oh my word, the pushback I received from that. People telling me that the physical Bible in their hand was the closest they were going to get to the real God in heaven. I had no words left.
@ wow
Why is your channel called a dropout?
It's unbiblical and, for many, unfruitful | ChurchDropout EP. 49
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The great falling away. It has been redefined as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) they have their own mandate called 7 Mountain mandate. It's been going on for many years now. It has gotten very political since DJT did away with the Johnson ammendment in 2017. It was a favor to evangelicals to push a candidate while remaining tax free. Just like Satan offered Jesus the world, they fell for it and took the offer to run the world. Your message is on point. They are def pushing their agenda.
Church in essence is Adam's body the temple of the Holy Spirit. So called churches today are denominations more like religions. So divided and created for the founders' agenda. Thus they lack the Spiritual essence.
"Increasingly compromising its biblical mission".....Left the truth and indulged in Lies..why do we tip toe around the word of God Almighty.
True for some. Who is tip toeing?
You are not talking about Christianity. You're talking about Evangelicalism and white American nationalism.