Great filming shots, views and angles. Thanks for taking all the necessary time to research, outfit, and tow with a Buick Enclave. You guys did a great job.
Just finished a trip with 2019 Buick Enclave, from Allentown PA to Alexandria Bay NY, and back, over the holiday weekend, towing a travel trailer, 4800 pounds , pulled in Front wheel drive, using a anti sway bar and weight distribution, no problems at all, big hills doing 50-55( not to push, had plenty of power to go faster) , and rest of the way 65, tires on trailer only rated to that speed, average 12.6 miles per gallon...only used all wheel drive to get out the campground... Buick did well, I have CDL A ..
This is good to here I have a 18 traverse and about to max mine out towing. Empty one way 750 miles then back with a 3050lb Roxor ontop. Wife doesn't want to take main tow rig due to comfort of the traverse. I also have Class A. Should be interesting, also have a WD hitch.
MPG wise, that’s a really draggy trailer. Gasoline engines tend to drop efficiency like a rock when you gotta make power continuously to overcome aerodynamic drag. Honestly not bad for working that 3.6 with 5k behind it. You realize you more than doubled the mass, and dramatically increased the drag. Glad to hear the control was there. That’s the more important part of towing, and a lot of people fail to recognize that. They think if it has enough power to accelerate it can tow, but really, load control and hill descent control is far more critical. Glad to see the time you took to set the trailer up properly. Weight distribution, hitch height, proper hookups. I see way too many yahoos on the road who just plopped a trailer on the hitch with zero setup and it’s dangerously out of whack going down the freeway. Thank you for showing it being done correctly. 👍 My wife and I are looking at the Enclave, and after seeing this I know it would haul our little utility trailer with a 2000-lb load of firewood just fine. If I need to tow bigger stuff it’s time to warm up the Silverado 2500HD Duramax, which is awesome when I need to hook up a 20-ft flatbed and haul the tractor in for service... but the truck is kinda overkill when I just have a 500 lb motorcycle in the 5x8 utility trailer. 😉
Well I recently purchased this Enclave and I never really looked at a Buick before but I was and still am very impressed with what they have done with this vehicle it is very underrated,I never tow any8 but feel confident that it is very capable,nice review guys!!!!
I have a 2017 Explorer Sport and towing a 6 x 12 cargo trailer with a total weight of about 3,000lbs and 6 people i got 12MPG. Average speed of about 65 MPH using cruise control. The ECOBOOST pulled like a freight train.
I own a 2014 Enclave, just turned 100K, absolutely love this rig. I just put new plugs in it because I noticed the mileage dropping from 26 on highway (at 75 no less) to 20 mpg. I’m going to tow a small RV roughy 3000 loaded, I’m expecting a good result and if I get 9-10 I’ll be satisfied I’d like more but I’m used to that mpg anyway towing with a pickup and larger trailers if I get more I’ll be pleased as would anybody. I don’t know how I feel about all the part time AWD stuff I’m thinking too much technology and I noticed an auto stop feature on the tachometer I’m definitely not a fan of that, as with any GM product I’ve ever owned I’ve never been disappointed.
Awesome video guys! I would love to see more of these midsize crossover towing videos. As they have been increasing in sales and popularity. Keep it up.
Hello there Andre and Nathan! As usual another cool informative test. I’ve been towing long distances lately with my 2016 Colorado Z71,4x4, V6 Ext Cab. With a 4,000 lbs travel trailer and at least 1,000 lbs of two adults, two dogs and a lot of stuff, like 40 gals water, along with two gallon drinking and a case of bottled water. Soft drinks and food. I rolled over a Cat Scale at 9,540 lbs GCVW! With a full tank of gas. So far over the 4,700 miles, from Massachusetts to Central Florida, along the Florida Panhandle to Matagorda Bay RV Resort, and all over the areas we have been through. We have averaged around 15.4 mpg!!! At all the speed limits without cruise control, as that tends to let the trans hunt down to lower gears. Without the tow/haul mode, as I keep an eye in trans and engine temperatures, that never go higher than 170 trans and 190 engine temp. If I feather the gas pedal I do better at keeping the trans in a higher gear! With no shortage of power whatsoever! But I have to say since we entered to southern states it has been rather flat. So there is that. But still and averaged mileage of just over 15 mpg, figured at the total pump readings over a two week period is pretty good!
I’d be super interested in a performance comparison between the full size crossover and full size SUV....I know a Tahoe or Expedition would have an easier time towing...but mpg and overall value of the different vehicles would make an interesting test
Love the review, need more of these real world mpg loops for more than trucks .... more info from Mr Truck & TFL than anywhere else. Surprised about the Dyno tests results for the HD trucks.
I have a 2023 Enclave Premium. Doesn't look like it has changed much. The AT is now a trigger mechanism. 500 lbs on the tongue is a good benchmark to mention. That's the weight of having 5 kids in the back of the car...it should easily be able to handle that. Now I need to find that tow bar, brake/light harness package. Not even sure how to search for that on the web. Suggestions?
I love how you guys give us a real world test of vehicles and towing. Since you did not go up any mountains, I gather you don't really think it would of been able to do it. I keep on trying to figure out what my V-6, 5,000 pound tow vehicle can really, honestly tow up I-80 to Reno for instance or 50 to Lake Tahoe. I am starting to think 4,000 is the real max, with a 2700 to 3200 pound trailer, 40 gallons of water and 200 pounds of food and gear but I am not even sure yet if that can get over a mountain pass.
I like the ideal of being able to turn awd on and off.But wish the 2wd was rwd. Cause to me the main purpose of turning awd off is to have some fun if you find some snow.
To me that's good.I seen A Subaru Forester at work the other day.Unfortunately I found its cargo area to be disappointing.I'm not sure what year it is.I keep hoping to find a crossover or SUV that the wife's electric wheelchair can fit into.Its beginning to look like I might have to settle for a van.But I was hoping to have SOME offroad ability.Even if light offroad.And get around in snow when needed.Unfortunately she is unable to get into my truck.I've even considered going down to a midsize but not sure if I want to or not.
@@tritchie6272 you can now do this with the new explorer as it is rwd again. Yet this Buick is setup to offer a FWD version too so it makes sense to just have the rear drive module have the option of shutting off the multipate clutches in the rear.
I'm a little surprised, in our 2015 Explorer Sport I was able to get just under 14 towing a Chevy Cobalt on my aluminum car hauler. It was at just above sea level on a 100 mile trip at 65mph.
We tow our (approx.) 7,000 lb. (fully loaded) travel trailer with our ‘16 VW Touareg. We’ve done around 15,000 miles in trips, so far, over two+ years... the rubber-neckers we get going down the highway, while originally were amusing, have become annoying. People just can’t believe it. While up in Canada, we even took it off roading in deep trenches of mud and water, with the trailer in tow (for some off grid camping) for a couple miles, and she pulled like an absolute champ! Even better than one of the Ford F-150s, who had to be towed out by another F-150. On our way home from Canada, to Kansas City, MO, I counted every trailer/RV that passed us, and every one we passed, setting the cruise at 65mph. We had 6 pass us, while we passed 14 for the entire trip home. Point to that is, we’re pulling just fine compared to what else is traveling out there.
I think it would be nice to see a few trucks towing at different speeds to see how much a difference there is between 65 vs 70 vs 75 and other speeds. Towing vs not towing also.
I've been thinking about using my wife's 15 Explorer to haul a very similar stock trailer. We need to make a trip next week, but it's about 7 hours round trip. I think I'll wait for a shorter trip to do a test run. Great vid.
I like and appreciate them doing these tow tests. Though, as a bicycle rider the effects of head or tail winds can greatly effect the energy needed to maintain a speed, more obviously hills do too. Folks new to towing anything need to keep this in mind. Pulling a trailer wondering if you are beating the vehicle to death is not a fun way to travel.
Man, I got better MPG in my Jeep Hemi towing a car at 80+ over the mountains of Pennsyltucky! Great work doing an unexpected review of a crossover doing what family buyers may actually USE it for, though!
I wouldn't use this to tow regularly. I'm sure the engine can handle it but the rigidity of the unibody crossover is what has me concerned. I would use it for an occasional Uhaul trailer or a small boat but not something consistent as if it was my daily job like a few horses or a small Bobcat bulldozer. I would prefer a nice pickup truck for that.
Love it tow more with these, and do more DIY stuff like what can fit in the trunk of it and how many people can fit in normally for road trips, and like this one TOW with everything. And try to put bikes in the trunk. That is what we like in the Every Man Driver. He puts a bike there and many people ( like myself ) that is one way to see what is what, nobody understands that numbers when you say how many cubic feet per inch square latitude horizontal spoon can fit in. Put a whale in to demonstrate it :D Love it keep em towing coming. You guys are the best.
We pulled a 5000 lb travel trailer with our 2010 Traverse with a tow package (same chassis/engine with a bit less hp). It towed ok in cool weather on flat roads, but heat absolutely killed its ability to tow with any confidence. It struggled like you wouldn't believe in the mountain passes of Montana in 90+ degree heat. Foot to the floor, revving out second gear, continually decelerating and overheating on the interstate was a terrible feeling. We took it easy on it after that trip after we discovered its vulnerabilities, and only pulled the trailer for shorter distances on relatively flat ground. Even so, it would start to overheat if the temperature broke 90 degrees. I would recommend no more than 3000-4000 lb towing for a unit like this unless you like your knuckles to be white while being passed by large trucks, hoping that the engine doesn't grenade..
Hi a have a 2008 GMC acadia I think is the same engine that you have I don't have the towing Package on mine If I installed a break controller and transmission cooler I should be OK to to pull a travel trailer 3000 to 3500 ? Thank you
I leased the same car for my wife, 2018 Enclave but not the AWD version just front wheel drive. But it does have the complete tow package. I have a camping trailer, roughly 28 feet and 7,000 pounds maybe a little more for longer camping trips. I tow it with a 2008 Cadillac Escalade EXT which obviously tows the camper with relative ease...70 MPH is a normal cruise speed with the camper loaded for a week long trip. Keeping in mind the bed of the Escalade EXT is loaded with crap as well. But I have been curious as to how my Enclave would tow. While I would not want to tow the camper on long trips but I wouldn't mind using the Enclave to just move the trailer from the storage to the house or in a pinch be able to use the Enclave to tow on a short trip should the Escalade be out of commission for whatever reason. Honestly I never thought this Enclave could come close to 5000 pounds capacity. I figured it was ok to tow a jet ski or small U-Haul trailer. I may hook the camper to the Enclave and drag it around the neighborhood just to see.....
Just did 4000 miles , with 4800 travel trailer, 24 ft, 2019 Enclave AWD, tow package, mostly in front wheel drive to save fuel, no problems at all, Pennsylvania to New Orleans, Florida and South Carolina, I do have a good weigh distribution and antisway .. Hitch
According to Etrailer.com, if we install a WD we can tow to 7500 ! which is really can tow a Hawk or Kingston 2stalls horse trailer. what do you think? is it practical and safe?
I don't know if you are really pulling the max. Towing on something like that it's time to move to a bigger vehicle. But I get it maybe there is the once a year 5k you need to pull this would be a good buy for that.
Yeah, maybe 'jldude84' but as I was only thinking along the information that these two guys stated,..I'll bow to their expertise. ( I hope they got the apples and oranges straightened out ) Cheers!
This was good, I have a 18 traverse and I'm about to tow max. One was 800 miles with a 1600 flat trailer then back with a 3050 Roxor on top. Less wind drag that the horse trailer but still near max and one good mountain climb. Here in the west, we shall see.
Hei just finished putting on, 19000 miles in my Buick, did 4 long trips this past summer, 1 from Allentown PA to Destin FL, went thru Tennessee mountains, i know not as bad as west coast, but no problems, keep at 50 always in Tow mode, and 65 on flat roads, make sure good tong weight, tows better I found, i had no problems, CAT scale in South Carolina, showed 4857 on travel trailer... planning Key West this summer...
@@joseventura2522 towing trailer empty from Northern Utah to Eastern AZ, got 20MPG. Only used TH Mode once left it in 2wd most of trip. What was ur MPG most of time? Used a weight Distribution hitch and couldn't even tell it was back there
@@joseventura2522 I'll report what I get, hopefully better with not towing a Parachute. What did the cat scale show was your tow vehicle total weight? How much added weight over driver weight did u have, that contributes to tow weight. With us its just me and wife and luggage
@@joseventura2522 I found a equation of putting in total trailer weight, length of box not counting tongue and measurement from middle of axles to rear and it tells u how much weight needs to be on tongue
The car only gets maybe 21 mpg on the highway at your altitude. That’s without towing! You only have a 3.6 liter engine, car probably weighs in at 4500 lbs plus you two and the 5000 lb trailer. I would say you are doing great at 10 mpg.
Loved your video and explanations. One thing I was missing and am very confused by. Did this Enclave have the Factory Trailer Package. If so was that the reason you did NOT need and electric RV brake controller? Also I did not see sway control on the trailer. The manufacturer says that the Stabilitrak will take care of sway. Does that mean the car has everything needed? I recently purchased a 2021 Enclave Avenier to pull an Airstream 22FB with base weight of 4200# and max of 5000#. I need to know if I need to install an electric brake controller, no dealer seems to know what that is, and if I need anti sway kit on my hitch. Looking at the Recurve R3 hitch with weight distributions and sway control. If I dont need the sway control if the car takes care of that then it is much easier
You probably know this at this point, but for the benefit of others who may be reading this, you have to have the tow package to tow this much. Without it, capacity is only 1500 pounds. It does not have an integrated brake controller, and a stability system is no replacement for a weight distributing hitch. I have a Traverse and would not use it to tow that close to its limits on a regular basis.
Have you done a 2017 or newer Nissan Pathfinder SL 4x4 towing 6,000lbs. I’d love to see it pull a scarab 255 open ID jet boat. 3,800 dry weight, 1285lb trailer.
Concerned with driving it in the 2wd mode. I know most crossovers have a higher tow rate with AWD. Guessing the front axles or cv joints are not made to handle the weight alone
When the vehicle squats with the trailer on, could you mention if it's easy to re-aim the headlights? This could be important for folks who tow frequently. ;)
My experience with the Chevy large crossovers as sustained high load in the heat has not been good. Even with the factory tow package (hd engine cooling), I have over heated brand new traverse/Arcadia rentals driving from LA to Vegas on the passes. That happens while not towing...
That cover for the trailer hitch is not theft proof. There should be a release switch inside the car in order to remove it. Or a button that senses proximity of the owners remote.
Surprised at the difference in mpg from supposed combined. I would have anticipated it dropping to 15-18 mpg, but not from 25 to 10. I drove my F150 from Seattle to San Diego empty got 14 mpg (5.4L V8), then towed a car trailer and had a loaded bed from San Diego to Corpus Christie Texas and got 10.3 mpg.
Noticed you pulled through pump stations so that the trailer occupied a fill station. Was there room for you to stop vehicle at pump and leave trailer beyond? Aggravating when people block available pumps with trailers or occupy diesel pumps when getting gas, or sit in vehicle after filling to talk on phone, etc.
Go back to towing school. Shouldn’t exceed 80% of max towing capacity. Why do they call it max towing capacity when the recommendation is not to exceed 80%?
Chevy Fan it still would be the engine actually has to work harder in AWD lol if the tires were breaking traction the whole time then yes it would make a difference but having it in AWD would do anything but give it better milage
Stop testing with trailer brakes. Nobody I know has a trailer with trailer brakes and having extra brakes kinda voids validity of the test of the test cars brakes.
Great filming shots, views and angles. Thanks for taking all the necessary time to research, outfit, and tow with a Buick Enclave. You guys did a great job.
Just finished a trip with 2019 Buick Enclave, from Allentown PA to Alexandria Bay NY, and back, over the holiday weekend, towing a travel trailer, 4800 pounds , pulled in Front wheel drive, using a anti sway bar and weight distribution, no problems at all, big hills doing 50-55( not to push, had plenty of power to go faster) , and rest of the way 65, tires on trailer only rated to that speed, average 12.6 miles per gallon...only used all wheel drive to get out the campground... Buick did well, I have CDL A ..
This is good to here I have a 18 traverse and about to max mine out towing. Empty one way 750 miles then back with a 3050lb Roxor ontop. Wife doesn't want to take main tow rig due to comfort of the traverse. I also have Class A. Should be interesting, also have a WD hitch.
MPG wise, that’s a really draggy trailer. Gasoline engines tend to drop efficiency like a rock when you gotta make power continuously to overcome aerodynamic drag. Honestly not bad for working that 3.6 with 5k behind it. You realize you more than doubled the mass, and dramatically increased the drag.
Glad to hear the control was there. That’s the more important part of towing, and a lot of people fail to recognize that. They think if it has enough power to accelerate it can tow, but really, load control and hill descent control is far more critical.
Glad to see the time you took to set the trailer up properly. Weight distribution, hitch height, proper hookups. I see way too many yahoos on the road who just plopped a trailer on the hitch with zero setup and it’s dangerously out of whack going down the freeway. Thank you for showing it being done correctly. 👍
My wife and I are looking at the Enclave, and after seeing this I know it would haul our little utility trailer with a 2000-lb load of firewood just fine. If I need to tow bigger stuff it’s time to warm up the Silverado 2500HD Duramax, which is awesome when I need to hook up a 20-ft flatbed and haul the tractor in for service... but the truck is kinda overkill when I just have a 500 lb motorcycle in the 5x8 utility trailer. 😉
Well I recently purchased this Enclave and I never really looked at a Buick before but I was and still am very impressed with what they have done with this vehicle it is very underrated,I never tow any8 but feel confident that it is very capable,nice review guys!!!!
I have a 2017 Explorer Sport and towing a 6 x 12 cargo trailer with a total weight of about 3,000lbs and 6 people i got 12MPG. Average speed of about 65 MPH using cruise control. The ECOBOOST pulled like a freight train.
I own a 2014 Enclave, just turned 100K, absolutely love this rig. I just put new plugs in it because I noticed the mileage dropping from 26 on highway (at 75 no less) to 20 mpg. I’m going to tow a small RV roughy 3000 loaded, I’m expecting a good result and if I get 9-10 I’ll be satisfied I’d like more but I’m used to that mpg anyway towing with a pickup and larger trailers if I get more I’ll be pleased as would anybody. I don’t know how I feel about all the part time AWD stuff I’m thinking too much technology and I noticed an auto stop feature on the tachometer I’m definitely not a fan of that, as with any GM product I’ve ever owned I’ve never been disappointed.
Awesome video guys! I would love to see more of these midsize crossover towing videos. As they have been increasing in sales and popularity. Keep it up.
Hello there Andre and Nathan! As usual another cool informative test. I’ve been towing long distances lately with my 2016 Colorado Z71,4x4, V6 Ext Cab. With a 4,000 lbs travel trailer and at least 1,000 lbs of two adults, two dogs and a lot of stuff, like 40 gals water, along with two gallon drinking and a case of bottled water. Soft drinks and food. I rolled over a Cat Scale at 9,540 lbs GCVW! With a full tank of gas. So far over the 4,700 miles, from Massachusetts to Central Florida, along the Florida Panhandle to Matagorda Bay RV Resort, and all over the areas we have been through. We have averaged around 15.4 mpg!!! At all the speed limits without cruise control, as that tends to let the trans hunt down to lower gears. Without the tow/haul mode, as I keep an eye in trans and engine temperatures, that never go higher than 170 trans and 190 engine temp. If I feather the gas pedal I do better at keeping the trans in a higher gear! With no shortage of power whatsoever! But I have to say since we entered to southern states it has been rather flat. So there is that. But still and averaged mileage of just over 15 mpg, figured at the total pump readings over a two week period is pretty good!
Flat Florida driving is probably the best terrain you can hope for while towing a trailer
Show us a gauge view of the on ramp acceleration and such. I'd love to see more of that, especially for the trucks on Ike Gauntlet!
I’m glad I’ve been a subscriber for a couple years bow cause you guy do the best videos
test the 2018 Toyota Highlander 3.5 towing 5000 lbs, that should be fun.
I’d be super interested in a performance comparison between the full size crossover and full size SUV....I know a Tahoe or Expedition would have an easier time towing...but mpg and overall value of the different vehicles would make an interesting test
Love the review, need more of these real world mpg loops for more than trucks .... more info from Mr Truck & TFL than anywhere else. Surprised about the Dyno tests results for the HD trucks.
I have a 2023 Enclave Premium. Doesn't look like it has changed much. The AT is now a trigger mechanism. 500 lbs on the tongue is a good benchmark to mention. That's the weight of having 5 kids in the back of the car...it should easily be able to handle that. Now I need to find that tow bar, brake/light harness package. Not even sure how to search for that on the web. Suggestions?
I love how you guys give us a real world test of vehicles and towing. Since you did not go up any mountains, I gather you don't really think it would of been able to do it.
I keep on trying to figure out what my V-6, 5,000 pound tow vehicle can really, honestly tow up I-80 to Reno for instance or 50 to Lake Tahoe. I am starting to think 4,000 is the real max, with a 2700 to 3200 pound trailer, 40 gallons of water and 200 pounds of food and gear but I am not even sure yet if that can get over a mountain pass.
That is awesome how you can switch AWD on or off; I have only seen that with 4WD
I like the ideal of being able to turn awd on and off.But wish the 2wd was rwd. Cause to me the main purpose of turning awd off is to have some fun if you find some snow.
T Ritchie my Subaru Outback can turn off AWD too
To me that's good.I seen A Subaru Forester at work the other day.Unfortunately I found its cargo area to be disappointing.I'm not sure what year it is.I keep hoping to find a crossover or SUV that the wife's electric wheelchair can fit into.Its beginning to look like I might have to settle for a van.But I was hoping to have SOME offroad ability.Even if light offroad.And get around in snow when needed.Unfortunately she is unable to get into my truck.I've even considered going down to a midsize but not sure if I want to or not.
@@tritchie6272 you can now do this with the new explorer as it is rwd again. Yet this Buick is setup to offer a FWD version too so it makes sense to just have the rear drive module have the option of shutting off the multipate clutches in the rear.
This is what i call a real life review. Y'all know what is right to be done for the viewers! Is that car over powered for that 9 speed?
I'm a little surprised, in our 2015 Explorer Sport I was able to get just under 14 towing a Chevy Cobalt on my aluminum car hauler. It was at just above sea level on a 100 mile trip at 65mph.
We tow our (approx.) 7,000 lb. (fully loaded) travel trailer with our ‘16 VW Touareg. We’ve done around 15,000 miles in trips, so far, over two+ years... the rubber-neckers we get going down the highway, while originally were amusing, have become annoying. People just can’t believe it.
While up in Canada, we even took it off roading in deep trenches of mud and water, with the trailer in tow (for some off grid camping) for a couple miles, and she pulled like an absolute champ! Even better than one of the Ford F-150s, who had to be towed out by another F-150.
On our way home from Canada, to Kansas City, MO, I counted every trailer/RV that passed us, and every one we passed, setting the cruise at 65mph. We had 6 pass us, while we passed 14 for the entire trip home. Point to that is, we’re pulling just fine compared to what else is traveling out there.
I think it would be nice to see a few trucks towing at different speeds to see how much a difference there is between 65 vs 70 vs 75 and other speeds. Towing vs not towing also.
I've been thinking about using my wife's 15 Explorer to haul a very similar stock trailer. We need to make a trip next week, but it's about 7 hours round trip. I think I'll wait for a shorter trip to do a test run. Great vid.
you guys are great
How would this compare to an Explorer Platinum? Mashup.
Youns do great at reviewing and testing vehicles. Thanks for your hard work
Thanks for this. I'd LOVE to see more crossovers towing trailers....On my video wish list would be the Honda Pilot and Ford Explorer...
I like and appreciate them doing these tow tests. Though, as a bicycle rider the effects of head or tail winds can greatly effect the energy needed to maintain a speed, more obviously hills do too. Folks new to towing anything need to keep this in mind. Pulling a trailer wondering if you are beating the vehicle to death is not a fun way to travel.
Man, I got better MPG in my Jeep Hemi towing a car at 80+ over the mountains of Pennsyltucky! Great work doing an unexpected review of a crossover doing what family buyers may actually USE it for, though!
I wouldn't use this to tow regularly. I'm sure the engine can handle it but the rigidity of the unibody crossover is what has me concerned. I would use it for an occasional Uhaul trailer or a small boat but not something consistent as if it was my daily job like a few horses or a small Bobcat bulldozer. I would prefer a nice pickup truck for that.
So you are saying that Buick certifies you for 5k LBS and you think it won't hold up? Well sorry but I wouldn't trust you gut feeling that much,
Love it tow more with these, and do more DIY stuff like what can fit in the trunk of it and how many people can fit in normally for road trips, and like this one TOW with everything. And try to put bikes in the trunk. That is what we like in the Every Man Driver. He puts a bike there and many people ( like myself ) that is one way to see what is what, nobody understands that numbers when you say how many cubic feet per inch square latitude horizontal spoon can fit in. Put a whale in to demonstrate it :D
Love it keep em towing coming. You guys are the best.
Good review. Thanks guys. I'm going to be hauling similar weight with 2014 Acadia AWD. Wish me luck.
Great Vid guys, Keep up the great work!
I can’t wait until you guys get your hands on the VW Atlas for a towing test!!
I would say that's pretty damn good for the MPGs for SUV it's not like it has the gearing for hauling.
We pulled a 5000 lb travel trailer with our 2010 Traverse with a tow package (same chassis/engine with a bit less hp). It towed ok in cool weather on flat roads, but heat absolutely killed its ability to tow with any confidence. It struggled like you wouldn't believe in the mountain passes of Montana in 90+ degree heat. Foot to the floor, revving out second gear, continually decelerating and overheating on the interstate was a terrible feeling. We took it easy on it after that trip after we discovered its vulnerabilities, and only pulled the trailer for shorter distances on relatively flat ground. Even so, it would start to overheat if the temperature broke 90 degrees. I would recommend no more than 3000-4000 lb towing for a unit like this unless you like your knuckles to be white while being passed by large trucks, hoping that the engine doesn't grenade..
Hi a have a 2008 GMC acadia I think is the same engine that you have I don't have the towing Package on mine If I installed a break controller and transmission cooler I should be OK to to pull a travel trailer 3000 to 3500 ? Thank you
I leased the same car for my wife, 2018 Enclave but not the AWD version just front wheel drive. But it does have the complete tow package. I have a camping trailer, roughly 28 feet and 7,000 pounds maybe a little more for longer camping trips. I tow it with a 2008 Cadillac Escalade EXT which obviously tows the camper with relative ease...70 MPH is a normal cruise speed with the camper loaded for a week long trip. Keeping in mind the bed of the Escalade EXT is loaded with crap as well. But I have been curious as to how my Enclave would tow. While I would not want to tow the camper on long trips but I wouldn't mind using the Enclave to just move the trailer from the storage to the house or in a pinch be able to use the Enclave to tow on a short trip should the Escalade be out of commission for whatever reason. Honestly I never thought this Enclave could come close to 5000 pounds capacity. I figured it was ok to tow a jet ski or small U-Haul trailer. I may hook the camper to the Enclave and drag it around the neighborhood just to see.....
Just did 4000 miles , with 4800 travel trailer, 24 ft, 2019 Enclave AWD, tow package, mostly in front wheel drive to save fuel, no problems at all, Pennsylvania to New Orleans, Florida and South Carolina, I do have a good weigh distribution and antisway .. Hitch
Thank you guys you clarified some things for me!
Please a tow test of a 2017 18 toyota highlander v6 awd is rated at 5000 lbs.
This Buick comes with factory towing package???
1,500 standard. Extra for towing package that can do 5K
According to Etrailer.com, if we install a WD we can tow to 7500 ! which is really can tow a Hawk or Kingston 2stalls horse trailer. what do you think? is it practical and safe?
That is a fantastic looking SUV! Bravo Buick!
Why did you disable the all-wheel-drive system?
I would guess that since there are other models that are fwd only this would give info towards those also. Imho.
@@agems56 actually it only uses a little more fuel. Not considerably more.
I don't know if you are really pulling the max. Towing on something like that it's time to move to a bigger vehicle. But I get it maybe there is the once a year 5k you need to pull this would be a good buy for that.
That's really interesting to hear that the larger and stronger Suburban vehicle's have less payload than these uni-body vehicles,....whodathunkit?
Yeah, maybe 'jldude84' but as I was only thinking along the information that these two guys stated,..I'll bow to their expertise. ( I hope they got the apples and oranges straightened out )
Cheers!
This was good, I have a 18 traverse and I'm about to tow max. One was 800 miles with a 1600 flat trailer then back with a 3050 Roxor on top. Less wind drag that the horse trailer but still near max and one good mountain climb. Here in the west, we shall see.
Hei just finished putting on, 19000 miles in my Buick, did 4 long trips this past summer, 1 from Allentown PA to Destin FL, went thru Tennessee mountains, i know not as bad as west coast, but no problems, keep at 50 always in Tow mode, and 65 on flat roads, make sure good tong weight, tows better I found, i had no problems, CAT scale in South Carolina, showed 4857 on travel trailer... planning Key West this summer...
@@joseventura2522 towing trailer empty from Northern Utah to Eastern AZ, got 20MPG. Only used TH Mode once left it in 2wd most of trip. What was ur MPG most of time? Used a weight Distribution hitch and couldn't even tell it was back there
Average was 12.5 mpg
@@joseventura2522 I'll report what I get, hopefully better with not towing a Parachute. What did the cat scale show was your tow vehicle total weight? How much added weight over driver weight did u have, that contributes to tow weight. With us its just me and wife and luggage
@@joseventura2522 I found a equation of putting in total trailer weight, length of box not counting tongue and measurement from middle of axles to rear and it tells u how much weight needs to be on tongue
Have you done a towing test with a Toyota sienna ?
The car only gets maybe 21 mpg on the highway at your altitude. That’s without towing! You only have a 3.6 liter engine, car probably weighs in at 4500 lbs plus you two and the 5000 lb trailer. I would say you are doing great at 10 mpg.
You should take the hummer up the Ike gauntlet
Loved your video and explanations. One thing I was missing and am very confused by. Did this Enclave have the Factory Trailer Package. If so was that the reason you did NOT need and electric RV brake controller? Also I did not see sway control on the trailer. The manufacturer says that the Stabilitrak will take care of sway. Does that mean the car has everything needed? I recently purchased a 2021 Enclave Avenier to pull an Airstream 22FB with base weight of 4200# and max of 5000#. I need to know if I need to install an electric brake controller, no dealer seems to know what that is, and if I need anti sway kit on my hitch. Looking at the Recurve R3 hitch with weight distributions and sway control. If I dont need the sway control if the car takes care of that then it is much easier
You probably know this at this point, but for the benefit of others who may be reading this, you have to have the tow package to tow this much. Without it, capacity is only 1500 pounds. It does not have an integrated brake controller, and a stability system is no replacement for a weight distributing hitch. I have a Traverse and would not use it to tow that close to its limits on a regular basis.
How can Buick Enclave 3.6 by can towing mpg . Chrysler 200 v6 mpg
Andre and Nathan what are your thoughts on the intellihitch?
Do you think there would be an mpg difference running it in awd? Who knows, maybe it will give better mpg results?
Love the crossover towing. Do the cherokee and passport!
Chevrolet Equinox towing test some day.
Can you guys do test on a Toyota Highlander?
Have you done a 2017 or newer Nissan Pathfinder SL 4x4 towing 6,000lbs. I’d love to see it pull a scarab 255 open ID jet boat. 3,800 dry weight, 1285lb trailer.
Have you? I was wondering the same thing! I have a pathfinder and need to tow my 3600lb car on a 2200lb trailer
Odd that your AWD light was still on when you pressed the Tow/Haul button...
I have the 2017 gmc acadia not sure why I have the same moter but tow 1000 lb less
Can do a Jeep Grand Cherokee with both the v6 & 5.7
What if add two horses in the trailer?
Well, 5k lbs and cold weather... mileage will not be that great
A pretty truck nonetheless.
Am I the only one surprised that a front wheel drive based crossover has a 5,ooolb tow rating???
Great video. Keep the CUV/SUVs coming. Really want to see the Jeep Cherokee V6 Trailhawk tow.
Have you guys done any reviews of the Intelli Hitch performance with icy road conditions? Great video, you guys do good work!
Im curious about the intelli hitch as well not a lot of reviews online
Please tow with the Cherokee 3.2!
What about an Encore!?
Concerned with driving it in the 2wd mode. I know most crossovers have a higher tow rate with AWD. Guessing the front axles or cv joints are not made to handle the weight alone
A lot of metal in the back in order to tow 5000 pounds
When the vehicle squats with the trailer on, could you mention if it's easy to re-aim the headlights? This could be important for folks who tow frequently. ;)
depending on the trim level they have available intelibeam headlights that will move with the steering wheel
Should have auto levelling lights.
Clicked on the video saying this will be enteresting
4000 rpm? Surprised it wasn't building a lot of heat. Not good on a hot day.
My experience with the Chevy large crossovers as sustained high load in the heat has not been good. Even with the factory tow package (hd engine cooling), I have over heated brand new traverse/Arcadia rentals driving from LA to Vegas on the passes. That happens while not towing...
That cover for the trailer hitch is not theft proof. There should be a release switch inside the car in order to remove it. Or a button that senses proximity of the owners remote.
4k rpm do that enough you gonna lose more than mpg. Overtime you are going to wear it out. That V6 is overworked
Could you please do this test for Toyota Highlander with the same Tow rating?
Surprised at the difference in mpg from supposed combined. I would have anticipated it dropping to 15-18 mpg, but not from 25 to 10. I drove my F150 from Seattle to San Diego empty got 14 mpg (5.4L V8), then towed a car trailer and had a loaded bed from San Diego to Corpus Christie Texas and got 10.3 mpg.
Walter Willis 5.7??
Nick - typo - it's a 5.4. The 7 is the key above the 4 on the number pad - I missed the correct key.
Gotcha
Try it in all wheel drive. See what you get.
Come on guys, no way that trailer is 5000 lbs. Try towing a 5000lb. full height RV.
No one:
TFLnow:
Noticed you pulled through pump stations so that the trailer occupied a fill station. Was there room for you to stop vehicle at pump and leave trailer beyond? Aggravating when people block available pumps with trailers or occupy diesel pumps when getting gas, or sit in vehicle after filling to talk on phone, etc.
Yeah, but lets see some real life mountain roads. looks pretty flat lander there
Been there with a 3.6L Traverse, towing 5000 lb in the heat, and it was not a good experience...
I wish you guys would do this with a Tesla Model X up the gauntlet and do the cost per mile or KW per mile used.
10 mpg is really bad
Go back to towing school. Shouldn’t exceed 80% of max towing capacity. Why do they call it max towing capacity when the recommendation is not to exceed 80%?
An empty cm stock trailer doesn’t weigh 5000 lbs
They added weight in the trailer to get it to 5k
You are not supposed to tow at 70 miles per hour!!!
Who says??
Towing to fast 11:04
The Enclave. Reds a v8
Da, Yeah you need a Frame based SUV..... For 5K +.
I prefer Frame Based than CUV based for Towing heavy Trailer and cargo. For Bikes not so much for Two and gear... Motorcycles....
If it was in awd it wouldn't sit at 4000 rpm the front wheels were the only thing pulling it.
Chevy Fan it still would be the engine actually has to work harder in AWD lol if the tires were breaking traction the whole time then yes it would make a difference but having it in AWD would do anything but give it better milage
Y don't you do this with muscle cars
they aren't rated to tow, the Dodge Durango 392 Hemi can actually tow pretty nicely
marco Because no one tows with cars
Oh yah? I've seen cars towing. I've towed with a car. You just can't tow that much.
Walter Willis good luck putting a hitch on a muscle car. Midsize sedan can do 1500 lbs probably but a muscle car? Nah
Was responding to Jose's comment that no one tows with cars. And I have seen Mustang's towing small trailers.
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Enclave is a gmc Acadia a traverse is a gmc Acadia. Gmc Acadia is junk. Which makes the enclave and traverse junk lol
Gmc Acadia is smaller than the traverse and Enclave
Eh, I feel like a real test is no trailer brakes. Ive never used or even been around a trailer that actually had trailer brakes.
in Indiana if it over 3000 lbs it has to have brakes!
Rip off BMW shifter. Classic GM.
Stop testing with trailer brakes. Nobody I know has a trailer with trailer brakes and having extra brakes kinda voids validity of the test of the test cars brakes.
In Ontario Canada it's the law to have trailer brakes if the the loaded trailer is more 3081 lbs. or more then half the weight of the tow vehicle.
Towing 5k without trailer breaks would not only be illegal, but incredibly unsafe.