These chords are so beautiful!! How is this concerto so underrated 😭😭

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  • This is the second movement of Rachmaninoff's first piano concerto. Someone in the comments actually pointed out that this is the revised version (whoops, I didn't actually know).
    Recording:
    • Rachmaninoff: Piano Co...

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  • @argumentumpoeticum
    @argumentumpoeticum หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    It's basically a hate crime to stop the video at that point.

    • @KlausBambey
      @KlausBambey หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree to rhis comment

    • @barney6888
      @barney6888 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You think this excerpt is bad? Some years ago I was listening to the CBC (Canada) Bell Canada satellite station called Classical Romantic and it played the Rach Pag var up to about half way, went silent then put on the middle movement of a Mozart quintet. Now of course I deeply love both composers, but I was so shocked at the stupidity of some know-nothing twit programmer (who likely gets paid 4 times more than I ever have) for simply not letting a cd finish, that I insulted the guy in a long ranting email calling him everything I could, without being arrested.
      How can uneducated morons inherit these far too easy jobs? In fact, it's not even a matter of education, but a matter of loving the music.
      So, this is not a crime compared to a national, tax payer broadcaster dumbing down the general public through nepotism and laziness.
      Rach's works are NOT for little old ladies to water their plants by. So, no matter where you cut it off, it's very painful.
      This post does introduce, though, someone who hasn't taken a moment to listen and sample our beloved Rach. I find him not guilty on the grounds that the CBC is a pile of utter stupidity that, by far, overshadows the innocent intent of this poster with its (the CBC's) reckless, bumbling, moronic, empty headed, refuse to name the conductor, state of severe developmental ... ...
      i have to stop
      i havgfe to stop
      where are my pilss? my pills????
      s**t where did i leave them
      oooooooooooooooooo i hate the cbc
      even more than philip glass, because;
      People who live in brick houses, SHOULD throw Glass.

    • @OutOfWards
      @OutOfWards หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@barney6888 You missed the point of the OG. They are stating that they wish they could hear more. You took it completely wrong and wasted your breath.

    • @pietroamaretti8550
      @pietroamaretti8550 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why? The music is shallow, slimy and trivial.

    • @gmfrunzik
      @gmfrunzik 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are too
      Have a good day​@@pietroamaretti8550

  • @karllieck9064
    @karllieck9064 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Rach. rewrote this early concerto after he wrote his 3rd piano concerto. So, he was fully matured in his writing at that time. It's a wonderful concerto none the less.

    • @aenox848
      @aenox848 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Honestly he didn't change much. Early versions of the concerto are available, and are still freacking impressive for a 18 years old

    • @AndSendMe
      @AndSendMe หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@aenox848 He changed quite a bit, it was more than a polish, but not a complete rewrite true enough. Gad this performance is way too slow.

    • @PianoMeSasha
      @PianoMeSasha หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correcting errors in the forest of the Internet

  • @aivarasz
    @aivarasz หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    You may feel the influence of Tchaikovsky in general, and the horn solo from the fifth symphony specifically. Their souls were connected!

    • @LISZT-
      @LISZT- 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Tchaikovsky was Rachmaninoff's hero

  • @Highinsight7
    @Highinsight7 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    the whole work is just luscious...

  • @Coolbardie
    @Coolbardie หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    It's Rachmaninov's 1st piano concerto. My favourite's the 2nd, but this is very beautiful, too. ❤

    • @satchelhill5739
      @satchelhill5739 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually really like the 4th

    • @Coolbardie
      @Coolbardie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Musical works speak differently to each of us, don't they. I've only come to like it in the last few years because I listened to it with attention, rather than just having it on in the background or choosing one of the other three to listen to. I'm grateful to my late Dad for introducing me to Rachmaninov's music. It gives me so much joy. I'll give the 4th a hearing again soon. ❤

    • @markjacksonturner6462
      @markjacksonturner6462 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Coolbardie My favourite work is his 3rd symphony!

    • @Coolbardie
      @Coolbardie 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@markjacksonturner6462 I've only listened to the 2nd, so I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @martynasmatutis8284
    @martynasmatutis8284 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Rachmaninov's 1st! Honestly, I totally understand why you chose to highlight this - the second I heard those opening chords, I was rocketed back to the first time I heard this concerto. Thanks!

  • @user975bg
    @user975bg หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rachmaninov, a beautiful soul! ❤

  • @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician
    @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Amazing piece! To be reaaally accurate, this here wasn’t completely written by a 18 year old. This is the revised version of the concerto, which he did way later in his life. You can check out the original and see what he changed at minute 14:18 of this video: th-cam.com/video/e8EqxM1U5SM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AIBS1B1-m7F8rch-
    (If the link doesn’t work just search rach 4 original version score ore something)
    It’s actually amazing how much of the beautiful melodies and inventive harmonies were already there, but he really did improve them and smooth the edges with his later expertise. The piano cadenza following this intro was not in the original, which only had an A dominant arpeggio in its place.

    • @taylee_jurekie-rofe
      @taylee_jurekie-rofe  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow that's super cool! I didn't know this so thanks for sharing 😊

    • @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician
      @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taylee_jurekie-rofe you re welcome!!

    • @user-yp6me9by2b
      @user-yp6me9by2b หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the original, it starts with the clarinets instead of the horn. It sounds much better like this, imo.

  • @GranulatedStuff
    @GranulatedStuff หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 1 in F-sharp minor, Op. 1 (1891, rev. 1917) .... No.2 Andante

  • @igo.spekkyjarvonvreich
    @igo.spekkyjarvonvreich หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    yes, beautiful - but how can you call a Rachmaninoff concerto underrated, only possibly the fourth. Many great pianists play this concerto

    • @TyronTention
      @TyronTention หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Agreed. The fourth, I would say, is pretty underrated, but I love it nonetheless.

    • @gmfrunzik
      @gmfrunzik หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They are still all in the top 10 to 20 most played concertos probably

    • @alanpotter8680
      @alanpotter8680 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TyronTention Yes, the 4th is a damn good concerto. I will never compare it to the 2nd or the 3rd since they are very different to the core. It's much darker, much more serious work.

    • @kevinm6790
      @kevinm6790 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’ve been listening to Rachmaninov for decades. The only time I’ve seen recordings of the 1st and 4th, besides here on YT, is in a set with all four plus the Paganini Rhapsody.

    • @TyronTention
      @TyronTention หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@alanpotter8680 Depending on what day someone asks, I prefer the fourth over the others for that reason. The emotions feel more raw, and that last movement has such a capricious, mysterious sound that I love.

  • @alanpotter8680
    @alanpotter8680 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The 4th is so underrated and yet so beautiful, especially in its original form.

    • @AndSendMe
      @AndSendMe หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't say no to either version but the current challenge is that while there is Michelangeli's fantastic performance of the later version, the original has yet to be offered in a comparably classic performance.

  • @kofiLjunggren
    @kofiLjunggren หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Definetley deserves more attention, your video!

  • @Love-Is-Kind
    @Love-Is-Kind 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So beautiful! Thank you for sharing. Take care.

  • @santiagologioco7971
    @santiagologioco7971 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so powerful

  • @0rangeBlue
    @0rangeBlue หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I hear A LOT of Wagnerian Tristan influences!

    • @prependedprepended6606
      @prependedprepended6606 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly!

    • @YishaiKnoll
      @YishaiKnoll หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, I made a comment in regards.

    • @tropicjam7343
      @tropicjam7343 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well observed. Agree.

    • @musical_lolu4811
      @musical_lolu4811 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pantriadic chromaticism. Not unusual for the period.

    • @0rangeBlue
      @0rangeBlue 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@musical_lolu4811 yes, but I mean not only the harmony but also the motivic phrasing.

  • @scarf550
    @scarf550 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Reminds me of Scriabins first piano concerto aswell

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny, I didn't think Rachmaninoff at first but thought wow, this person sounds like Rachmaninoff! hahah Those sustained notes just make the chord changes so amazing. It's like a movie soundtrack at that point.

  • @erika6651
    @erika6651 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I misread Horn Solo as Hans Solo Motiv initially.

  • @gemsfromhistorysdustpan2.070
    @gemsfromhistorysdustpan2.070 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Strong Wagner's Tristan influence.
    Must be an early work still working on his original voice

  • @giorgiociomei5030
    @giorgiociomei5030 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bellissimo ❤

  • @ivanbeshkov1718
    @ivanbeshkov1718 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All four, nay, five piano concertos are great, so is his second symphony and everything else. Have yet to familiarize myself with his first and third symphony. Another great composer almost overlapping Rachmaninov's lifetime and lifespan is the nearly forgotten Alexander von Zemlinsky.

  • @robstockton2463
    @robstockton2463 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Maybe if you identified the piece, it would become less underrated.

    • @mikelord9860
      @mikelord9860 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's already in the description.

    • @StephenJackson1958
      @StephenJackson1958 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a joy that you've brought this to our notice, and thanks so much. But yes! What the xxxxxx IS IT?

    • @MrFartyman44
      @MrFartyman44 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StephenJackson1958it’s rachs first piano concerto

    • @commontater8630
      @commontater8630 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mikelord9860 No, it's not. The Description consists entirely of ''These chords are so beautiful!! How is this concerto so underrated 😭😭". No three dots to open additional material.

  • @paulograca3937
    @paulograca3937 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grwat work of Rachmaminoff

  • @juancao5832
    @juancao5832 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hay una versión estupenda del 4to de Rachmaninoff por Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli!

  • @dong4617
    @dong4617 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The French horns sounded like Tchaikovsky's 5th.

  • @danielocarey9392
    @danielocarey9392 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I compose piano concerto pieces. My heart is warmed by this one.

  • @mjm5081
    @mjm5081 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🙏❤🌹 Sergei 🌹❤🙏

  • @bastiangigas
    @bastiangigas 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The main motif of God Of War PS4 can be related from the first bars of this.

  • @negakini7934
    @negakini7934 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great comments in the score. Who added them?

  • @sucroseboy4940
    @sucroseboy4940 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Definitely not what I’d call underrated. Perhaps underrated among the other Rachmaninov concertos, but overall a very well known, often performed piece.

  • @slubert
    @slubert หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its Rachmaninov take on Griegs concerto in A minor

    • @AndSendMe
      @AndSendMe หลายเดือนก่อน

      Structurally, yes, but to act as if that is the essence of this piece would be unjust, as it is a worthwhile original in its materials and development.

    • @slubert
      @slubert หลายเดือนก่อน

      @AndSendMe as if that wasn't EXACTLY what I meant when I said "his take" on the piece (and ofc that's the structure).
      And I would slightly disagree with what you mean about the "essence", a term which can mean so many different things. Just try to spot what makes these two concertos alike, and different to all the other concerti.
      The two concertos are like siblings to me, very alike but very different/unique, one older, one younger and that looks up to the other.
      Of course you'll find whatever- something if you look for it. But I'm just basing this on what little Rachmaninov said about the piece.

  • @Zues11196
    @Zues11196 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what recording is this?

    • @taylee_jurekie-rofe
      @taylee_jurekie-rofe  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anna Fedorova;
      th-cam.com/video/y6EX3t2Mdnw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-lMX6AQ4_-X02Yzq

    • @Zues11196
      @Zues11196 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taylee_jurekie-rofe Thanks, awesome analysis by the way, i enjoy this kind of content!

  • @dionysusfury3879
    @dionysusfury3879 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like Tristan und Isolde overture

  • @komponents7977
    @komponents7977 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Triadic motion” isn’t a real music theory concept

  • @ukdavepianoman
    @ukdavepianoman หลายเดือนก่อน

    The writing in this movement is extraordinary - Rachmaninov at his most original. It feels quite "improvised". There are wonderful passages later. This particular performance is really slowly - it needs more movement.

    • @GaryGoldbaugh
      @GaryGoldbaugh หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was 18

    • @todorstojanov3100
      @todorstojanov3100 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GaryGoldbaugh When he wrote the original version. But the version of the concerto that everyone plays nowadays was revised by him later in his life. And it is far superior

  • @imacompoza
    @imacompoza 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is not what he wrote when he was 18, it's the (drastically) revised version he wrote in his 30s
    Use facts not misinformation

  • @HodGabriel
    @HodGabriel 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it is indeed great music, but it's overshadowed by the (miles better) second and third concertos. their melodies and harmonies are more appealing.

  • @JohnRussell-hg6ii
    @JohnRussell-hg6ii 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hear some Brahms in there

  • @michaelmarsten4019
    @michaelmarsten4019 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "How is this concerto so underrated?", you ask. The answer is as simple as it is tragic: We live in a time when too many people, especially shallow, narrow-minded people, and especially shallow, narrow-minded Americans, are craving easy listening because they can't be bothered to expand their listening horizons to include music it takes just a little extra effort to understand and appreciate. Put simply, this concerto is so underrated because it's got more to say than too many listeners are used to hearing, so naturally, because they'd prefer unconscious escape to mind-opening substance, they tune it out - a truly self-defeating mistake in this case!

  • @sxs1103
    @sxs1103 หลายเดือนก่อน

    말런줄 알았네

  • @YishaiKnoll
    @YishaiKnoll หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, but Wagner made it before in Tristan. I wish that others would have been imittating, the Tristan... overture.

  • @JimJohn5555
    @JimJohn5555 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Rach is THE best classical composer by a mile. He knows how to write a simple melody, develop it to an utter climax and pierce your heart with pure emotion. Chopin and many others can do it similarly but no where near Sergei

  • @robertwalker2052
    @robertwalker2052 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I point out that this piece was an abject failure at its debut? So much so that he had to visit a psychiatrist before beginning his Second Concerto?

    • @aken215
      @aken215 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You're confusing it with the 1st symphony

  • @louisestaats234
    @louisestaats234 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Au Countre. Just irritating.

  • @thepianocornertpc
    @thepianocornertpc 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This concerto is NOT underrated at all.

  • @argi0774
    @argi0774 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe because most people except music theorists just don't like to listen to "chords"

  • @brianbrotherston5940
    @brianbrotherston5940 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where on earth did you get the assumption that this superb concerto is underrated ? - Suggest you leave your cave and attend some decent concerts !!

  • @onbe804
    @onbe804 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not as beautiful as Tchaikovsky or Dvorak andante from their respective Symphonies
    Especially Dvorak new world second mouvement !

  • @tdang9528
    @tdang9528 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like crapGPT

  • @MajesticWorship88
    @MajesticWorship88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    What is this piece?

    • @taylee_jurekie-rofe
      @taylee_jurekie-rofe  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No.1, 2nd mvt

  • @slapmyfunkybass
    @slapmyfunkybass หลายเดือนก่อน

    But the voice leading leaves a lot to be desired. Rach’s no2 shows a clear jump in knowledge in that area. Notes A and C# have to be used as passing tones to link the harmonies. And G# should be used later to link A# to F#. This is basic orchestration.