The Big Cab Ride (Eastbound) at the Colorado Model Railroad Museum

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  • @joesipos2975
    @joesipos2975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW... this layout is huge! I've always felt that the quality of scenery really brings the layout to life, and for such a huge layout, the quality of scenery is really pretty good.

  • @tardismole
    @tardismole 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has to be one of the best layouts I have ever seen. The attention to detail on the diorama is astonishing. And thanks for showing the tunnels. I think they are just as important as the visible parts. Loved it.

  • @memelordsvideocomp4146
    @memelordsvideocomp4146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a volunteer this layout never ceases to amaze every day I'm there.

  • @TheOriginalBadger
    @TheOriginalBadger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, Bill...as always. The little "you are here" inserts really give one a better idea of where you are on the layout, and how the layout is laid out.

  • @juanitosantos7520
    @juanitosantos7520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Just can't imagine how much time and effort you guys spent in making this superb and magnificent layout.THis is a Masterpiece!

  • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
    @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an incredible video. Personally, I liked the 'windshield' as it added to the impression of actually being inside the locomotive, and seemed to me to give it a more realistic atmosphere....

  • @railroad9000
    @railroad9000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW!
    The addition of the insets showing the progress of the train is a great addition to an already great video
    Thanks.

  • @garrettswoodworx1873
    @garrettswoodworx1873 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An incredible railroad with videography to match. By far the best cab ride I've seen. As others have said: the informational snippets and "you are there" inserts rally add to the experience! Thanks!

  • @WilliamHBaird-eq2hp
    @WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A "tip of the hat" to whom ever did the brilliant track laying and the very realistic Scenery in the mountain region. I also like that you guys use Hand Thrown switches in the hidden main yard, and only "appropriate" Rail Cars (No blue box junkers). I Like the realistic horn effect in the video as well! Bravo! I will definitely watch this again!

  • @trainfreak8672
    @trainfreak8672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome railroad you all have made. I like it very much!

  • @bobbennett4288
    @bobbennett4288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Just wow. One of the best cab rides I have ever seen. At times I forgot this was a layout. Felt like real thing. U did an amazing job. Do another video in opposite direction. Thank u so much. Going to show this to my grand son on the big screen with the volume up. Thanks again

  • @Lakeside1943
    @Lakeside1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The greatest museum layout that I know of ! Often a monotonous ride, just like the real thing. Traveling distances !
    Imagine the work that's been done to create this gorgeous railroad !

  • @rg1809
    @rg1809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best Bill Rogers vid I've seen. Advantages of this one: 1 loved the guided tour. 2. loved the notes of where we were and what to notice on the layout, that was really helpful, 3. exquisite display of benchwork and planing, 4 wonderful example of signals. I thought the loops particularly clever, getting away from the not-so-prototypical helixes. This video is so crammed full of ideas that I just marvel at it. Thanks Bill.

  • @dinolarson6917
    @dinolarson6917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched again. Staggering to consider the effort and talent that went into every inch of this prodigious layout!! This has to be in the top 5% of any layouts anywhere.

  • @selectedvideos6180
    @selectedvideos6180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everything looks amazing, buildings, trees, bridges, and some of the best rock detail I have ever seen. Did not look like a model.

  • @johnaltyn3171
    @johnaltyn3171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    EXCELLENT Landscape and thank you for NOT skipping the tunnels

  • @mikemalliski8380
    @mikemalliski8380 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply incredible, WOW, such an outstanding layout......

  • @paulsmith6616
    @paulsmith6616 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks Bill, photograghy is superb as usual. I was surprised at the level of detail shown, which, I think, cannot be seen from the floor of the Museum. I'd better lift my game! Quite extraordinary.

    • @billr991
      @billr991  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Paul. Unfortunately, the camera car had a small wire (part of a power pick-up assembly) hanging down that was catching on every turnout and bridge guard rail. That's what was causing the camera shake at turnouts and bridges. In the westbound video (coming soon) that will be corrected.

  • @lokomac8
    @lokomac8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am a retired Locomotive Engineer with 42 years service and I think this is absolutely FANTASTIC! One heck of a ride! I almost had three heart attacks, wanted to chide the Engineer for improper use of the whistle and for running up on red signals and making hummingbird stops and I wanted see the Roadmaster or Track Supervisor to report several track condition areas, lol. Great job to everyone contributing to the building and detailing of the railroad and track and for the folks putting together at the video. Thanks for showing the camera and car set up, but one of the best things, the cab interior and Barco speed indicator . . . how was that added? It really made the video. Thanks!

    • @billr991
      @billr991  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The cab interior was added by using Photoshop to mask the windows in a photo of an actual cab as transparent. The photo was then superimposed on the video footage in Adobe Premier Pro.
      The yellow signals are very bright, bright enough to overexpose the video and sometimes appear to be red. Also the engineer (me) has never operated an actual locomotive so there was a certain amount of guesswork involved :-).

    • @lokomac8
      @lokomac8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billr991 Well, I hope you realize that I was only being "critical" in a humorous tone and that it only indicated flattery as to how convincing the whole effect was. But . . . that signal at the end of the siding after the train meet, though . . .
      Some people MIGHT complain about the speed recorder or cab "getting in the way," but that is EXACTLY the view I got as an Engineer. I loved it! I almost wanted to kick back, prop my feet up in front of me and catch a quick snooze when stopped in the siding for that meet. Fortunately, your meets are much better than the ones I experienced most of the time on the road, lol. I need to get back to the CRM soon -- I haven't been since 1979-81!!!

    • @billr991
      @billr991  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lokomac8 No offense taken. Glad you enjoyed the video. If you haven't seen the westbound version, it's at:
      th-cam.com/video/INSelVPjFBo/w-d-xo.html

  • @petercook4070
    @petercook4070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnificent and congratulations to all those individuals who laboured to put this wonderful model railway on the tracks A great journey gys. Unied Kingdom

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was friggin COOL! I always love the cab views.

  • @anetajohnson8446
    @anetajohnson8446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sitting in the Engeniners seat, the holy grail of train rides!. Thank you for showing this video!

  • @capitallines
    @capitallines 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best cab rides I’ve seen, and I’ve seen a few!

  • @sergewangneur
    @sergewangneur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best train cab-ride I have ever seen. Great animations and indications! Congrats!

  • @coloradorailfan8310
    @coloradorailfan8310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was very cool when i went there. It was also fun because UP tracks run just outside of the building. It’s an amazing layout.

  • @jjf1400
    @jjf1400 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fantastic !

  • @AustNRail
    @AustNRail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really nice use of the graphics. That sold this to me as a great experience. Thank you for sharing and taking the time to make this

  • @plgaul4816
    @plgaul4816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely amazing! So detailed and realistic. Thanks for the ride...and the magical experience.

  • @chuckandmax7313
    @chuckandmax7313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, that really was an impressive ride, I really enjoyed it. You can certainly tell that the designers put a lot of work into the layout and I was really impressed not only on the volume of trees but the different types of trees that changed throughout the ride. The mountain areas were done really well as was also the river scenes. I would really like to visit this location and get a full on view of the Klamath falls city buildings, you can really see the difference between scratch built buildings and kit models they are so much more unique and intricate. What I really liked was the length of the freight liner that we passed mid ride it surely had a lot of cars on it. Thanks for sharing and I look forward to your next video.

  • @slotnuubqwertz5868
    @slotnuubqwertz5868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this trip. i realy love these oncomming frighttrains, they seem to be endless. amazing layout, incredible landscapes and industrial sites. i´ll be back!

  • @Magnificent2600
    @Magnificent2600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This pretty awesome, That some realistic looking rock formations very cool.

  • @markhaas9265
    @markhaas9265 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's put this to words...."Simply Amazing!" This layout is incredibly well thought out and constructed. The cab ride through it is incredible. Thank you for sharing. Please keep the videos coming.

  • @michelledauvergne6830
    @michelledauvergne6830 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quel magnifique réseau ! What an amazing railway layout ! Great work ! With this cab ride, we have a good journey in wonderful landscapes !

  • @BrianXMoore
    @BrianXMoore 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent - really like the diagrams too.

  • @thedude3423
    @thedude3423 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spectacular! What scenery! Hugely talented people. Thanks for sharing.👍😊

  • @GaryLaaks1
    @GaryLaaks1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Years of labour in this one. Stunning detail.

  • @steveminnis5139
    @steveminnis5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simply awesome.

  • @benmussolini2284
    @benmussolini2284 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing ,beautifully done, These Trains will run on time ,no problem.

  • @tommachut7167
    @tommachut7167 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great one Bill. Thanks for posting.

  • @renodowns5256
    @renodowns5256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great show. My brother made the inside of the tunnel scenic like maybe making it into rock and whatever else he did it look great when we went on a cab ride thanks for.

  • @JKVisFX
    @JKVisFX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely amazing! The attention to detail is apparent throughout. Everything; the rock, the greenery, the architecture, the backdrops, and especially the trains! Even the choice of camera was smart, it appeared to have a small aperture which allowed everything in the field of view to be in focus - the key element to making miniatures look life-size, something the guys working in VFX for film and TV have understood for a long time.
    There is one thing I would love to see (understanding that it may not be practical in many cases) is for the interior of the tunnels to be finished out; be it wood, concrete, brick, or just bare rock. This one detail was not an issue when you were just watching the trains from a god's eye perspective but, now that more and more professional layouts like this one are running camera trains for these POV views, that is one thing I am really missing.
    At any rate, damn! That is amazing work. Keep it up, guys!

  • @ralphdadge302
    @ralphdadge302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Found this video earlier, just watched, very much enjoyed the journey, its a fine layout you guys have built.

  • @tomedgar4375
    @tomedgar4375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome detail,thanks for sharing

  • @jonnybeck6723
    @jonnybeck6723 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I should add that the "loops" are SO much better than a helix... brilliant!

  • @georgeforsyth5741
    @georgeforsyth5741 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a wonderful experience to watch.

  • @sheikowi
    @sheikowi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For the rest of us without your "eagle eyes", this is definitelyh the way to go. The maps & logistics are really helpful.

  • @josenunodasilvapinto1228
    @josenunodasilvapinto1228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great. It's amazing what those craftsman of model RR layouts. I wish I had that kind of patients.

  • @zionduke2213
    @zionduke2213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been searching for these kind of videos. I like the first person view of the train inside. Looks very realistic to me. Thank you so much for this videos :)

  • @doyline45
    @doyline45 ปีที่แล้ว

    FANTASTIC! A lot of hard work, and a few good people to put All together. God bless.

  • @kleenk8
    @kleenk8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice! Map preview of route was a nice touch.

  • @HeSaid007
    @HeSaid007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely grandly amazing. Hats off to the team.

  • @genova59
    @genova59 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've no words. Greetings and very compliments from Italy.

  • @railrunner01
    @railrunner01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much for posting the track plan. I really wish videos of layouts on youtube had at least the track plan. The animation was awesome and very helpful as well.

  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Serious fun, thanks for taking us along!

  • @danielbonham9336
    @danielbonham9336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow fantastic and beautiful large layout,

  • @hattrick2219
    @hattrick2219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed the cab ride. Thank you. Nicely done.

  • @geordieholden3781
    @geordieholden3781 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    of all the layouts I have seen on youtube this layout by far is my all time favourite I love what you all have done here the detailing is super amazing I .love it I am from Canada and would love to come visit there if i ever can once again love what you all have done here keep up the amazing work model railroading is the best hobby outthere

  • @blkstang83
    @blkstang83 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is official, this is the best video I have seen on TH-cam. I very much enjoyed riding in the front and being able to feel and see such a amazing First Person view.
    Thanks for sharing the ride with us.

    • @billr991
      @billr991  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Vincent. I'm working on the westbound version of the Big Cab Ride. I expect to have it posted in about a week.

  • @scottthomas5999
    @scottthomas5999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great layout. Fantastic landscaping.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @earthling7355
    @earthling7355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible layout. Great ride. Thanks.

  • @JtTaylor-mx3tm
    @JtTaylor-mx3tm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so cool seeing weyerhaeuser in the layout. i was a security officer for them for a long time in north carolina

  • @LtRob1967
    @LtRob1967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Loved the overlay animation to show where you are.

  • @rickdarris2294
    @rickdarris2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know this was in Greeley
    Cool
    Edit: the scenery and Fab work are great. The gravel, bricks n stone work are spot on.

  • @nickbarman4145
    @nickbarman4145 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @roshangonsalves996
    @roshangonsalves996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of best model i have seen excellent too good

  • @oldtown6240
    @oldtown6240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent! I am in awe. Clearly the best.

  • @notch8productions700
    @notch8productions700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is impressive, a lot of work and care certainly went into this layout.

  • @thomaslandolt9235
    @thomaslandolt9235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a work. Congrats! Well done. Nice to watch. Greetings from Europe

  • @KoothOdok2
    @KoothOdok2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video. I love all the attention to detail in the scenery.

  • @johnhanley8708
    @johnhanley8708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very very impressive !!

  • @Willysmb44
    @Willysmb44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, great job. Like most folks, I only know this layout from the apparently defunct PBS series, "Tracks Ahead"

    • @billr991
      @billr991  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Willysmb44. There are a lot more videos of the Colorado Model Railroad Museum at
      th-cam.com/play/PLCiFPrus_jMrL3c9K5oPPXSAZCixTVRdL.html

  • @AZRonK
    @AZRonK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WoW, what a ride, and I really like the notes and layout maps that pop up GREAt idea.👍👍😉😉👌👌

  • @jimaz6532
    @jimaz6532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great ride. I’ve seen many of these cab ride videos and in my humble opinion, this is one of the best. And the scenery is awesome and quite realistic. Thanks for sharing. 🚂

    • @billr991
      @billr991  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Jim. I think I dd a better job with latest cab ride. See the Westbound version at: th-cam.com/video/MG-WOLfeqPU/w-d-xo.html

  • @jeff9104
    @jeff9104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow !, Thanks for sharing, great video

  • @garyrushworth4785
    @garyrushworth4785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video! great job everyone!

  • @_steffinwolf_
    @_steffinwolf_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic! What a ride.

  • @HarryMHaythornUPHS4043
    @HarryMHaythornUPHS4043 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome as always Bill.

  • @spacecalander
    @spacecalander 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing!

  • @vettebecker1
    @vettebecker1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome layout!!

  • @Semper_fi_777
    @Semper_fi_777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best I’ve seen yet. Outstanding job!!

  • @davidrice2862
    @davidrice2862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice ride. Crookedest track ever!

  • @dietergoldschmitt9651
    @dietergoldschmitt9651 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ,a very enjoyable ride. Great layout. And Isaw the signal people said was red. I did notice it was yellow. NOT red.

  • @matthewtalbot7854
    @matthewtalbot7854 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow that place looks super expensive ha ha ha ha. Absolutely beautiful work too.

    • @garyfranson1353
      @garyfranson1353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that is what a million dollars can do since the building had to be restored for the layout along with all the materials and trains, etc.

  • @YYCRCFabricationz
    @YYCRCFabricationz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool layout & I personally appreciate the detail of stringing your powerlines the way ya'll have. It just adds that extra touch of detail & realism to the layout. So many skip those small details or say power lines clutter up the view, which I disagree with completely. Anyway, it's a sweet layout I'd like to see myself one day & a great video, thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @shanefields8239
    @shanefields8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed cab ride ..very nice layout 🚂🚂

  • @norbertk.1473
    @norbertk.1473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sehr schön, und fantasievoll gestaltet. -- Sehr sehendwert. Ich komme wieder, um weitere Filme zu sehen. ❤️

  • @tmotorman
    @tmotorman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Bill. Boy it doesn't get any better than this! Never saw those graphics before either. This is the kind of MRR club I dream of. I feel like selling my ranch (here in upstate NY) and moving out there just to join that club!!

    • @billr991
      @billr991  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks tmotorman. If you can't move to Colorado, at least come and visit. The CMRM website has all the details for planning a visit: cmrm.org

    • @tmotorman
      @tmotorman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's on my "To Do" List ! Should I bring a few T-Motors?? I see someone there has a few already!!! (smart person)

    • @billr991
      @billr991  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Getting set up to operate personal equipment during museum opening hours is somewhat involved. Equipment must be certified in advance and even then you would need an engineer qualified to operate trains at the museum. Also, personal trains are allowed only on certain days. So I guess the short answer (put as gently as I can and regretfully) is "No".
      This might seem a bit bureaucratic, but it's necessary if visitors are going see the railroad actually operating rather than watching derailments and stalled equipment being cleared.

    • @tmotorman
      @tmotorman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I would expect that, otherwise you'd have people popping in with equipment all the time probably.

    • @sonysnapper
      @sonysnapper 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The CMRM is not a club, it is a museum. There are no dues, full details are on the web site. We have quite a few volunteers / operators from other states.

  • @puresound98
    @puresound98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I LOVE this layout!!! Wish it was mine! However...the FRA called and they would like to speak with you concerning some of your "alignment" issues. LOL!! LOVE the layout regardless!

  • @GoblinSpanker
    @GoblinSpanker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was just going to watch a couple of minutes as 40 minutes would be too long and boring. It wasn’t! Amazing layout. Sat through the whole thing - and wanted more. Lots of great inspiration for my modest layout. Thanks a lot for sharing...

    • @billr991
      @billr991  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment. Glad you enjoyed it. If you want to see what it looks like going the other (westbound) way click on:
      th-cam.com/video/MG-WOLfeqPU/w-d-xo.html

  • @MarkHahn
    @MarkHahn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was pretty cool. It gives me a little anxiety because a small earthquake would be devastating. So much detail and the scale is unbelievable but Realistic! . Never been into model trains but this is very impressive #Amazing!

  • @wilsonarcilla8442
    @wilsonarcilla8442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well detailed nice job

  • @audicoes
    @audicoes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply awesome!

  • @AG0474
    @AG0474 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of you model railroad constructors have incredible layouts. Where you separate is this cab ride. I appreciate the little map and descriptions. Immaculate layout also. Great work.

  • @AdamHoch1289
    @AdamHoch1289 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice scenery.

  • @Nethanel773
    @Nethanel773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, this is just amazing! Fantastic work! Thanks for putting this up.

  • @Bruno.Trains
    @Bruno.Trains 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice rail footage with a lot of great filming !!

  • @norskviking9410
    @norskviking9410 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was train crazy, when i was a kid ! And a ride up in a Diseal engine was just short of the best thing in the world. I did get to stand in a real steam engine while it was ideling at a depo stop. I WAS ABOUT 6 OR 7, AND REMEMBER THE FIREMAN LIFTED ME UP THE STARS. m y dad took all kinds of pictures of that time. This video is just about like the real thing. a lot of fun here! bIG THUMBS UP!

  • @patriksiegfried5050
    @patriksiegfried5050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Bill,
    Always beautiful your decorations.
    Greetings from Switzerland

  • @JohnSmith-ci2vu
    @JohnSmith-ci2vu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uneven and wobbly track just like the real world.....fantastic!

    • @billr991
      @billr991  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The layout builders have told me that the track was not that way originally. There was a big problem of some sort with the humidity in the building in February of 2003. But you do have a good point - the layout models the OC & E and the OC & E was a logging railroad.

  • @dangooch5267
    @dangooch5267 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They had a large train layout at the Children's hospital in Dallas and I wondered about the ability to put one of those small WI-Fi cams in the cab and maybe some in the windows of some of the buildings and running a direct channel in the hospital so that kids could watch from their rooms. I guess if this becomes a thing someone will have to make tunnel inserts.

    • @billr991
      @billr991  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finding and fitting a camera small enough to fit in a locomotive cab and with good image quality and WiFi might be a bit of a challenge. It would also be good to include a power supply fed from the rails that provides clean filtered power to the camera. This would eliminate battery charging and maintenance problems.
      If occasionally pushing a camera around on a flatcar would be acceptable, that would be much easier to accomplish. In either case it seems like something well worth doing.
      Cameras inside buildings should be easy to do.