McMaster University is located in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Professor Giroux has a New York or Boston accent. He seems to be an American living in Canada. He says he won’t go back to 5he United States until there is free health care. He will therefore never go back! Recently, my wife needed medical attention and tests. We went to a local hospital in Montreal where we waited 8 hours for her to pass an CT scan and an MRI, all free of charge. In the following days, we had meetings with great doctors who explained the results of the tests. We were never big consumers of health care but when we walked out of the hospital, I was glad to be a Canadian citizen benefiting from free health care.
So great right,!? Canadian also. When he said health care was the highest cause of Dept in USA I nearly fell off my chair! For such an absolute human right I cannot grasp living in the States. Shameful.
Glad to be Canadian, for sure. Also British(for now), Danish, German, French, Belgian, Swiss, Swedish Dutch etc etc other developed democracies who see health as a RIGHT and not a business opportunity, as in the banana republic of USA.
@@artos1955 Yea, except the average American pays the same in taxes as the average Canadians does, yet doesn't receive any medical care for it. Instead, the have the largest military force with the best toys to wreck havoc throughout the world.
Republicans want you to believe that nobody knows what they’re talking about because it strengthens their argument for authoritarianism. It’s really not that rare.
It's not necessarily about lack of Education, considering that the Unabomber got into Harvard at 16. What you're looking at is the result of stigmatizing Mental Health, and the lack of health insurance in the States. I am grateful that our younger generation doesn't see a problem with getting help when they feel like they need help.
This man should be asked to give a list of critical problems that need to be solved in today’s society & their solutions to the leaders of out country.!This scholar needs to be set up in a quorum of intellectuals to get this country’s standards,education & critical thinking needed to advance & be a country that leads in society in the whole world.What a power that would be eh,no one could beat us ever again.!!!
@@evelynmurphy9599 If you only knew how ironic your post is. All that stuff has already happened. The "quorum of intellectuals" have already heard everything he has to say and found it to be wanting. Sure, it sounds smart, but if you listen carefully you'll find he doesn't actually offer any solutions.
@@scottwmackey Good haha I think his point about not approaching right wingers by challenging their political and cultural identity, but by engaging with what they want themselves that lie outside those areas (or are framed that way) is important and much more likely to work than confronting them directly. Is it solution, meaning we can all go home, no. But who has that? If you do I'm all ears
I just recently come across Henry Giroux and his online lectures/discussions maybe two weeks ago and I’m glad I did… I find him to be one of the more entertaining (in terms of holding my attention) public intellectuals and overall interesting individuals Ive come across in some time now. His handle on the fundamental issues & challenges facing modern society, combined with his ability to clearly articulate them in plain speak, is really quite impressive. We could use a lot more minds like his getting air time across all our media platforms. Great interview David
That's why I wont use any other word to describe him and especially now, the republican party and the trump voters and qanon fascist and the other right wing fascist. Not calling them fascist is extremely dangerous because it's exactly who they are.
The trouble is that a lot of people don't know the definition of fascism. And defining it isn't easy. So I think it is better to explain what is wrong or good in Republican politics instead of giving it a label. The label is correct in my opinion, no discussion there.
How do you think we're going to get these critical thinkers. Go in a classroom. See what teachers are going through. See how they stress critical thinking skills to students that dont even have basic skills. Speak from knowledge of how we can get critical those young thinkers. Contribute.
@@JoshSees "The best teachers educate students to be able to teach themselves" I don't know that I had any teachers like this. I did so regardless. I saw the flaws in the education system whilst in high school. I was in special needs because I simply couldn't handle school. They only care about war. Building narcissists by the use of strategy in sports. If you aren't part of that elite, you're going to be bullied. And fascism is all about building a structure from bullying.
Great interview! Particularly on point with the shift in education. Not just about how, but what is taught. Every homeschooler I know is Christian, racist and antiabortion. I’m glad we’re finally openly acknowledging the fascism we’re facing. Steven Miller and Steve Bannon are really leading the charge here and are doing excellent work destabilizing us to affect their aims.
@@jimohara not every person who has been homeschooled. I haven’t had those conversation. Every person I know who has decided to homeschool their kids is what I should have said. I don’t know them all, admittedly. You should also know they aren’t ashamed of it. They think that mixing the races is against God’s will. They reference the Bible, something about Ham and Canaan being banished to Africa. I admittedly don’t know the whole backstory. Obviously, tons of Christians aren’t racist.
@@JustSayPie Aye, well I suppose America is a strange place and I can’t deny there’s loads of loony bins. I just thought that kind of thing was dying off in this day and age. The way it comes across to me is that some of the teachers in school are people parents should be genuinely reluctant to have around their children
@@jimohara in my experience teachers have been very unfairly maligned in a crass political campaign to defund public schools. This coming mainly from the Christian Right.
@Scruffy Topaz Well the Democratic Party barely has a majority in the legislature, a handful of more conservative individuals in the DNC, (or just one person in the Senate) can hold up anything. Not to mention, that we can't just willy nilly arrest people without becoming the very thing we are seeking to destroy. Our best option as American citizens is to vote out both the enablers and the fascists.
Another factor on what happened in the last 40 years is that parents that hold reactionary and racist views were very upset to see their kids becoming liberals, thus their hatred of education. Basically they became proud to be as ignorant and 'anti elite' as possible.
I second this! We need to start spending our money on what is really important. Most average Americans see the newest cell phone, fastest internet, best cable TV package as legitimate monthly expenses. What if we budget even half that amount to support critical thinkers of our day? We have to start rethinking our values. Look who makes the most money today: Celebrities, Influencers, Athletes, Wall Street bankers. Who makes the least: people who make food possible, teachers, caretakers of our Most vulnerable loved ones. The results are very predictable.
@@dianneschoenberg4681 Who's the "we" in "We have to start rethinking our values"? What do "we" do when "they" are perfectly fine with their current values?
@@scottwmackey our whole population needs to rethink American values and start spending accordingly. All of us, including liberals like myself, need to stop funding this warped system. Calling for an overhaul of the class and pay scales for all professions. Morality over capitalism.
Aye, it’s a well known trait of Germans that they think Germans and Germany are so much better so you’ve no need to share. Probably true though ♥️ I wouldn’t mind living in Germany myself
@@jimohara are you one of those pick up artists who specializes in negging? That insult about Germans think they're better is so rude, as if socialised medicine and free education is not a good thing. We have universal healthcare and free education up to the end of highschool in Australia. It is way better than the American system where you get price gouged for healthcare.
@@kaihuang4970 Why are you so sensitive on someone else's behalf? I'm with Jim, Most of the Germans and British people I've worked with do in fact seem to think they're society is somehow better. I'm not even disagreeing with the premise, I just think the simple statement of fact is not a problem.
I remember where I was in 1980 when Reagan won. It was an overwhelming sense of foreboding that Reagan would have horrible long term consequences. I knew we would be dealing with it for the rest of my life. I was depressed for weeks. I still believe you can point to him for our current issues.
The most depressing thing about Reagan is that he wasn't some political mastermind. Reagan was basically a talking head, a paid actor; and the powers that were behind him never went away.
I remember seeing Huckabee air messages in '06 after hearing some rather middle class christians speaking well of that grifter before launching into joyful end times banter themselves. My thought was I need to think of this moment ten years from now too. Ohhh boy. Terrible as Reagan was, worse followed, and would almost be nice if we had a Nixon lead that damned party again.
Here's how we fix schools: teacher pay should be competitive with tech jobs at the K - 12 level. Make it more competitive for more highly educated job seekers.
Sure, if we learned NOTHING from our failed ways. Everything does NOT have to be a competition. I fact, MOST people excel under cooperation and less stress. You can't design a society based on the few.
Do you think schoolteachers can fix their students lives? It wouldn’t matter if every teacher was an Einstein if there’s garbage in there’s garbage out. A cultural change is what’s needed
Too many of our public schools are funded out of property taxes in the US. This produces a tremendous disparity in the funding available to hire good teachers and give students and their teachers the equipment and facilities they need to produce the best student that can be had. The finer points can be argued with, but without these fundamental resources, we are left with a generational cycle of ill-educated parents producing ill-educated children. Schools should be paid for directly out of the state budget along with whatever federal help is available. For politicians who only care about what happens on their watch, you are the ones guilty of criminal negligence and no one else.
I was in Sweden in the early 1980's when a discussion ensued on costly US education versus free socialized education there ~~ The Swede I was talking with stated " America's down fall will be that it is educating it's wealthiest not it's brightest " ~~ It is frightening watching this happen!
@@canuckprogressive.3435 My own opinion is that the former moron-in-chief has dyslexia and quit reading at 13 when he found you could buy homework, test answers, and test takers (see SAT). Thus he speaks like a 13 yo with a 13 yo's linguistic skills.
@@jerryjerry7561 2008-16 SCARED THE BEGEEZUS OUT OF ME...NOW IM SCARED AGAIN WONDER WHY I ALWAYS GAIN 5-6,000 RDS OF AMMO EVERY TIME A DEMOKKKRAT GET IN THE WH?
This guy’s a loon. Look at how he conducts himself. The movement in his body when he talks, the hair the glasses and the shirt and the big display of books in the background with the certificates on the wall too. Look at the face he has and the way he holds his mouth. Do you think he didn’t earn a face like that at his age?
I graduated high school in 1966. From the beginning my education included Civics, the study of our Government and the principals that we are all in this together and everyone needs to cooperate to get things done. I had no idea how we have deteriorated to the "ME FIRST" today but that explains what is going on in Society. I am ashamed of how even "educated" people act today. I'm really sad to learn this and I hope it's not too late, but we have lost so much in the years since I left school. I'm not sure we can even recover that in the next generation. I hoped to leave this place better than I found it, but I'm increasingly afraid it won't be happening.
Oh my lord he referenced Paolo Frieri and the Pedagogy of the Opressed AND the Education of Critical Consciousness. Love it. So much respect. I found a new hero. I want to read everything he ever wrote.
Henry is spot on in everything he says, about how we lost our sense of community and working together for the greater good, to the Gordon Gekko mindset, where greed is good, and the ideology is to get whatever you can however you can, and screw everyone else, and it all really began and escalated exponentially with Reagan, and ever since
Fantastic interview. This is the inherent problem with libertarianism. Aside from the built-in attitude of "eff you, got mine", libertarians shrug off all responsibility on society and government writ large, and puts the onus on individuals, which is both impactical and disingenuous.
Both Libertarians and Republicans talk the talk of the absolute sovereignty of the individual over the social responsibilities to the tribe of a democratic nation until the bottom falls out from under them. They don’t turn down unemployment benefits if they lose their job, they don’t think they should have to sell their assets to pay their medical bills, and they should be first in line for financial assistance if a natural disaster wipes them out. It’s all social Darwinism until they are the ones being culled from the herd, and that’s when it’s time to find a scapegoat.
My sister home schooled her two children. 16 years old engaging his A.A. I sent mine to public schools. He is 20 received his A.A. Client home schools her nephew in religious ideology. 100% difference regarding an education and the ability to think, become & well fill in the blank
This man is wonderful. Why don’t we have more people like him speaking out. He’s hit the nail on the head. I’m so happy that I went school prior to the 70’s I was taught in school to examine everything. I read 4 different newspapers for social studies everyday. And living in NYC in the 60’s you had a plethora of Newspapers that covered left, right and center views.
Why the eff do we still have politicians? A modern country should be led by eminent people with knowledge in social studies, economy, urbanization, social security, health care, etc. why do loud-mouthed ignorants who are only interested in their wallet and egos are leading the country?
I first met Henry when he held a chair at Penn State, and I at JH. He has always impressed me with his unique take on the US and Canadian education systems and how they play into and are influenced by, the changing social climate, esp in the US. With his experience as a HS teacher, of study at Carnegi Melon, and teaching at Boston, Penn, and (for about 14 yrs, I think) at McMaster, he has a level of objectivity which is rare in North America today.
While relatively brief, this was a very informative and incredibly enlightening simplification of the belief systems and political culture in the United States, as they have unfolded during my lifetime. As a fifty year old man, I have spent my entire lifetime thus far, unlearning the perspectives I learned throughout my "schooling", in order to ultimately arrive in full agreement with the theories explored in this fifteen minute video.
Henry Giroux is so spot on with everything he says. I've been espousing and pointing out these problems and some solutions in this country for so long now. He has a highly insightful and intelligent mind with the ability to convey his thoughts and opinions in a succinct and understandable way. I look forward to reading his books. Thanks David for having such great guests!!
I had a number of excellent teachers in my Public School experience in the 60's and 70's, but one who stands out was a Social Studies teacher who often set up our class to discuss and debate current issues, not from our own view but from the perspective of randomly assigned alternate views. For example, when one of the big issues of the day was whether "Red" China should be admitted to membership in the U. N. we were assigned to debate the matter from the perspective of current U. N. members so we had to research how that particular Ambassador would argue the matter. I drew the "Soviet Ambassador" card while others in the class had to argue from the French, English, U. S. position, etc. We did similar exercises on racial matters, marijuana legalization, women's rights, and so on. Guess what? We all learned more than we would have ever learned about current issues than we would have learned if a teacher just stood in front of the class told us what to think. Many years later, when I was managing a business with about 1400 Unionized employees, we were having a difficult time working some things out so I remembered my High School days and did something similar in a Joint Labor-Management exercise. Union Stewards and Officers met with my management and supervisory staff and I told everyone to "take their Union or Management hats off" and then proposed a number of "grievance issues" that I made up and then told the people at the meeting to argue the matter, not from their own position, but from the position of the other party. It was an eye opener for all involved and resulted in a much better and more productive work environment. Like Atticus Finch said to Scout, "You cannot know another person until you walk around in his shoes." Well, you can't really know your own beliefs until you truly understand the beliefs of others. Critical thinking skills are "dangerous" to those who do not truly understand the how and why of their own belief systems. I choose to live a "dangerous" life in that regard.
When was that perfect time when education was about raising critically thinking individuals who would hold power accountable for their communities' well-being? I don't think education (especially mass education) was ever about that.
@@Alltime2050 Of course I want critical thinking taught. Giroux was implying that there was a time when education was "good". I have doubts about how good it really ever was.
@@waterfrodo4304 I would like to suggest some videos on TH-cam showing high school students from all over the world discussing topic in the late 50's and early 60's. It blew my mind! I'll look for one and see if I can post it in this comment section.
these debates are mind-blowing. this america is gone. civilized debates by children! high school students from all over the world and happening in america
Henry is one smart man. He is right on about education and health care. We as Americans deserve so much more. I worry for my Grandchildren and their futures
Thank you for having this man on, David. Have him on for at least an hour, though. It gives you the opportunity for more follow-ups. Worth every second.
"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -Winston Churchill
Fully agreed, been calling it for years Problem is - "semantic stop-signs" like "cultural marxist / The Left / university elite" are spewn by those so-indoctrinated _as if that is a sound argument_ It passes for "reason" among those making apologetics for fascism. When you try to get them to engage in epistemology, they embrace contradiction. So how do you reason with someone who does this?
Great interview...so insiring to hear Henry articulate the nature of our arrival in these challenging times...and the pressing need for critical thinking and transformative actions. Cool to see a former professor of mine contiune the practice of really critical education!
How I would enjoy just 5 or 10 minutes spitballing some possible solutions for the troubles of our present with this fine gentleman! Thanks for letting him share a few of his perspectives with your audience. 🤌🏻
indeed, fascism is a misnomer to describe American authoritarian far right. Fascism was not intertwined with religion, and it had strong social welfare policies. You should just call it trumpism. It has already gained its place in history
Fascism was a Nationalist, populist, left/right fusion politics. The modern Alt-Right despises everything about the left and is mostly Libertarian. They are very different imo and acting as though they are the same is asking for trouble.
@@peterwright5311 in fairness, they all share a love for authoritarianism, militarization of society, nationalism, xenophobia and racism. So, mostly similar, but not exactly the same thing
The topics in talking points in this conversation have been weighing heavily on my mind the last few days and weeks. I'm very glad that David had this individual on as a source of information. I will definitely look into his ouvre, as I found his speaking points very concise and succinct and apropos to many topical issues
This was a very unique interview it seems to lead me to believe that his is a modern day version of the fall of the roman empire albeit the U.S. falling down.
The sixties was about free love, peace, personal happiness, open sexual expression etc.! All of these things are difficult to control, hard to convince people to go to wars, difficult to convince people to work 18 hours a day and ignore their families etc.
Introducing Fascism under Reagan was done with intent. We studied this in History class and Economics class in highschool in the Netherlands, 1985-1987. The USA probed it in Latinamerica.
@@octoscorpion2506 Reading your comment made me think back how we studied it. We had studied the historical markers for totalitarism, the 14 steps toward Fascism, then WW-I, the Interbellum, WW-2, the Korean war, the Iron Curtain, the Vietnam war, the US backed militias in Central America, the UdSSR war in Afghanistan, the Iraq-Iran war. The "Red scare" manipulation tactics.
@@octoscorpion2506 We had studied the Fall of the West Roman Empire, the Middle Ages, the Fall of the East Roman Empire, the Conquistadores and the Inquisition, Dutch Colonialism in History class in middle school. We were sensitized to the atrocities done to indigenous people in Latinamerica, North and Central America, Africa, Asia.
@@octoscorpion2506 In highschool, we studied the patterns of the rise and downfall of imperial oppression, the French Revolution, police state tactics, the military expansion under Napoleon, the Equilibrium between France, England and Germany in Europe.
Great interview, the man has some big words to describe these complex problems, and probably best to use considering they are complex problems, not linear problems most right wing people can comprehend 😝
While I watch clips from this show pretty often, I just randomly came across a video of Henry Giroux for the first time less than two weeks ago and quickly realized he was somebody I wanted to hear more from. He’s able to hold my (admittebtky not fantastic) attention through the combination of intellect, his grasp of fundamental and highly relevant issues, and his uncommon enthusiasm and dialectical skills. Great guest and great interview David!
Teachers spend way too much time on the lessons parents used to teach, right from wrong, how to share, getting along with another person, bullying is not acceptable, use brain and appropriate words not your teeth/fists/feet when you are angry. Telling stories to get others in trouble is not ok, and many other things.
I voted for Reagan in both elections. At the time, I was only concerned about the Socioeconomic status of my family and the people around us. Today I'm ashamed to have contributed to the selfish anti-social culture that generation created.
Fantastic interview David. Keep these insightful individuals coming. It was great how he linked together the entire history really the Anglo western countries have developed into: capitalism now thinly veiled fascism. And it was good to hear him point out the big downside of the us healthcare system, unlike the UK, Oz & NZ free healthcare system: it's a right not a privilege.
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McMaster University is located in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Professor Giroux has a New York or Boston accent. He seems to be an American living in Canada. He says he won’t go back to 5he United States until there is free health care. He will therefore never go back! Recently, my wife needed medical attention and tests. We went to a local hospital in Montreal where we waited 8 hours for her to pass an CT scan and an MRI, all free of charge. In the following days, we had meetings with great doctors who explained the results of the tests. We were never big consumers of health care but when we walked out of the hospital, I was glad to be a Canadian citizen benefiting from free health care.
So great right,!? Canadian also. When he said health care was the highest cause of Dept in USA I nearly fell off my chair! For such an absolute human right I cannot grasp living in the States. Shameful.
To say that our healthcare is “free” is disingenuous. We pay for it through our taxes, which I gladly and willingly support.
Glad to be Canadian, for sure. Also British(for now), Danish, German, French, Belgian, Swiss, Swedish Dutch etc etc other developed democracies who see health as a RIGHT and not a business opportunity, as in the banana republic of USA.
@@artos1955 Yea, except the average American pays the same in taxes as the average Canadians does, yet doesn't receive any medical care for it. Instead, the have the largest military force with the best toys to wreck havoc throughout the world.
Serge Morand, CANADA has more than earned an "eh+".
Wonderful interview. It is super rare to find individuals who are properly educated. Thank you, David!
Intelligent, educated, and even intellectual, but who still can speak plain and speak truth to the compassionate
Republicans want you to believe that nobody knows what they’re talking about because it strengthens their argument for authoritarianism. It’s really not that rare.
@Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2 wonderfully insightful comment, thanks.
Huh?
@Leif Massarene yeah, he is going to have to push his revisionist history on dore simps.
The state of education in the US is absolutely pathetic and something we should be ashamed of.
It's not necessarily about lack of Education, considering that the Unabomber got into Harvard at 16. What you're looking at is the result of stigmatizing Mental Health, and the lack of health insurance in the States. I am grateful that our younger generation doesn't see a problem with getting help when they feel like they need help.
thats what happens when a bunch of commies turn our educational system into a indoctrination system
@@joeschmoe4436 Not that i like communists. But the one who ripped you education system apart is the one denying reality, the republican fascists.
@@joeschmoe4436 🥱
Americans *could* try to do something about, instead of complaining and whining.
One of your best interviews. He puts a lot of my concerns about the direction of the country into words.
This man should be asked to give a list of critical problems that need to be solved in today’s society & their solutions to the leaders of out country.!This scholar needs to be set up in a quorum of intellectuals to get this country’s standards,education & critical thinking needed to advance & be a country that leads in society in the whole world.What a power that would be eh,no one could beat us ever again.!!!
@@evelynmurphy9599 If you only knew how ironic your post is. All that stuff has already happened. The "quorum of intellectuals" have already heard everything he has to say and found it to be wanting. Sure, it sounds smart, but if you listen carefully you'll find he doesn't actually offer any solutions.
@@scottwmackey He clearly does, more than most at least
@@drts6955 I'll bite. What are his solutions?
@@scottwmackey Good haha I think his point about not approaching right wingers by challenging their political and cultural identity, but by engaging with what they want themselves that lie outside those areas (or are framed that way) is important and much more likely to work than confronting them directly.
Is it solution, meaning we can all go home, no. But who has that? If you do I'm all ears
David, what a guy Henry Giroux, is! Have him more, if possible!
I just recently come across Henry Giroux and his online lectures/discussions maybe two weeks ago and I’m glad I did… I find him to be one of the more entertaining (in terms of holding my attention) public intellectuals and overall interesting individuals Ive come across in some time now. His handle on the fundamental issues & challenges facing modern society, combined with his ability to clearly articulate them in plain speak, is really quite impressive. We could use a lot more minds like his getting air time across all our media platforms. Great interview David
@@ruaidriodomhnaill4489 well said, agree and said so in my initial comment here, about plain speak and speaking truth to compassion
I guess I just got tired of him in the early '90s.
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That's why I wont use any other word to describe him and especially now, the republican party and the trump voters and qanon fascist and the other right wing fascist. Not calling them fascist is extremely dangerous because it's exactly who they are.
The trouble is that a lot of people don't know the definition of fascism. And defining it isn't easy. So I think it is better to explain what is wrong or good in Republican politics instead of giving it a label. The label is correct in my opinion, no discussion there.
Great interview. America needs more critically thinking kids.
How do you think we're going to get these critical thinkers. Go in a classroom. See what teachers are going through. See how they stress critical thinking skills to students that dont even have basic skills. Speak from knowledge of how we can get critical those young thinkers. Contribute.
And ADULTS.
@@gingermiller1087 yeah baby!
The best teachers educate students to be able to teach themselves
@@JoshSees
"The best teachers educate students to be able to teach themselves"
I don't know that I had any teachers like this. I did so regardless. I saw the flaws in the education system whilst in high school. I was in special needs because I simply couldn't handle school. They only care about war. Building narcissists by the use of strategy in sports. If you aren't part of that elite, you're going to be bullied. And fascism is all about building a structure from bullying.
Just listening to intelligent articulate and interesting people is a salve to the fox crazies. Great segment DP
Great interview! Particularly on point with the shift in education. Not just about how, but what is taught. Every homeschooler I know is Christian, racist and antiabortion. I’m glad we’re finally openly acknowledging the fascism we’re facing. Steven Miller and Steve Bannon are really leading the charge here and are doing excellent work destabilizing us to affect their aims.
Every homeschooler you know is racist?
@@jimohara not every person who has been homeschooled. I haven’t had those conversation. Every person I know who has decided to homeschool their kids is what I should have said. I don’t know them all, admittedly. You should also know they aren’t ashamed of it. They think that mixing the races is against God’s will. They reference the Bible, something about Ham and Canaan being banished to Africa. I admittedly don’t know the whole backstory.
Obviously, tons of Christians aren’t racist.
@@JustSayPie Aye, well I suppose America is a strange place and I can’t deny there’s loads of loony bins. I just thought that kind of thing was dying off in this day and age. The way it comes across to me is that some of the teachers in school are people parents should be genuinely reluctant to have around their children
@Scruffy Topaz was Zinn a good historian or was he more of a political activist?
@@jimohara in my experience teachers have been very unfairly maligned in a crass political campaign to defund public schools. This coming mainly from the Christian Right.
"don't confuse schooling with Education" Henry Giroux! insightful!
believe that goes back to Mark Twain?
@@letsRegulateSociopaths could be. It is not an uncommon phrase. Was pointing out what he said and the most poignant point in the interview.
@@letsRegulateSociopaths yup, Mark Twain.."never let school interfere with your education ".
Fight TheEvilRobots didn’t BLM BURN SCHOOLS?
@@thomasbenau2810 Never heard shit about that. You're full of it.
BEST interview on the subject. I think we are up against Confederate Nazis in our special US version of fascism.
@Scruffy Topaz Well the Democratic Party barely has a majority in the legislature, a handful of more conservative individuals in the DNC, (or just one person in the Senate) can hold up anything. Not to mention, that we can't just willy nilly arrest people without becoming the very thing we are seeking to destroy. Our best option as American citizens is to vote out both the enablers and the fascists.
@@MalakStarfire Yes. It's part of why there is so much worry about the California recall and Diane Feinstein...who needs to retire.
@Scruffy Topaz VOTER'S CAN stop them
@JT MONEY r u saying WE should have sided with THE AXIS??? REALLY??
@JT MONEY you're right Republicans Trump Marjorie Taylor Greene need to be put in there place Democrats and good Republicans need to start speaking up
Another factor on what happened in the last 40 years is that parents that hold reactionary and racist views were very upset to see their kids becoming liberals, thus their hatred of education. Basically they became proud to be as ignorant and 'anti elite' as possible.
Buy Henry's books. They are brilliant. Support his scholarship. He's a dynamic teacher and wonderful writer.
I second this! We need to start spending our money on what is really important. Most average Americans see the newest cell phone, fastest internet, best cable TV package as legitimate monthly expenses. What if we budget even half that amount to support critical thinkers of our day? We have to start rethinking our values. Look who makes the most money today: Celebrities, Influencers, Athletes, Wall Street bankers. Who makes the least: people who make food possible, teachers, caretakers of our Most vulnerable loved ones. The results are very predictable.
Ya, he has a natural talent for saying a lot of smart sounding things that actually say nothing.
@@dianneschoenberg4681 Who's the "we" in "We have to start rethinking our values"? What do "we" do when "they" are perfectly fine with their current values?
@@scottwmackey our whole population needs to rethink American values and start spending accordingly. All of us, including liberals like myself, need to stop funding this warped system. Calling for an overhaul of the class and pay scales for all professions. Morality over capitalism.
@@dianneschoenberg4681 OK, what's the first step?
I love ❤️ Henry Giroux. Thanks for bringing him on.
I’m a second-year history and philosophy teacher so this interview was especially salient for me… def buying his book.
Its rare to find actual smart and educated people these days. Great interview. Learned a lot from this
I'd love to hear Giroux and Chomsky interviewed together.
Oh my gosh, my heart just skipped a beat!👍👍👍
Knowledge is highly underrated! America goes for the loud people, the flashy people; not the smart people.
I immigrated from Germany when I was 18 and I can attest to the fact that having socialized medicine and having free education was so much better 😊❤
Aye, it’s a well known trait of Germans that they think Germans and Germany are so much better so you’ve no need to share.
Probably true though ♥️ I wouldn’t mind living in Germany myself
@@jimohara are you one of those pick up artists who specializes in negging? That insult about Germans think they're better is so rude, as if socialised medicine and free education is not a good thing.
We have universal healthcare and free education up to the end of highschool in Australia. It is way better than the American system where you get price gouged for healthcare.
@@kaihuang4970 Why are you so sensitive on someone else's behalf? I'm with Jim, Most of the Germans and British people I've worked with do in fact seem to think they're society is somehow better. I'm not even disagreeing with the premise, I just think the simple statement of fact is not a problem.
So go back to Deutschland
@@larscain3263 Typical idiot reply. I am an American now so no I am not going back to Germany.
I remember where I was in 1980 when Reagan won. It was an overwhelming sense of foreboding that Reagan would have horrible long term consequences. I knew we would be dealing with it for the rest of my life. I was depressed for weeks. I still believe you can point to him for our current issues.
The most depressing thing about Reagan is that he wasn't some political mastermind. Reagan was basically a talking head, a paid actor; and the powers that were behind him never went away.
I remember seeing Huckabee air messages in '06 after hearing some rather middle class christians speaking well of that grifter before launching into joyful end times banter themselves. My thought was I need to think of this moment ten years from now too. Ohhh boy.
Terrible as Reagan was, worse followed, and would almost be nice if we had a Nixon lead that damned party again.
@Rainbow LOL...WHAT ABOUT THIS PUPPET IN THE WH NOW?
No doubt! Trump ran on Reagan’s campaign, slogan and all. It was like watching a remake of a horrible movie.
@@joeschmoe4436 Nobody in this comment section has time for your whataboutisms, grown folks are talking. 😒
Here's how we fix schools: teacher pay should be competitive with tech jobs at the K - 12 level. Make it more competitive for more highly educated job seekers.
Sure, if we learned NOTHING from our failed ways.
Everything does NOT have to be a competition. I fact, MOST people excel under cooperation and less stress. You can't design a society based on the few.
Do you think schoolteachers can fix their students lives? It wouldn’t matter if every teacher was an Einstein if there’s garbage in there’s garbage out. A cultural change is what’s needed
@@justadad6677 he implied paying teachers more, not making them fight each other
That may not solve the horrific teacher deficit problem in some urban public system like Philadelphia's which needs 500 teachers.
Too many of our public schools are funded out of property taxes in the US. This produces a tremendous disparity in the funding available to hire good teachers and give students and their teachers the equipment and facilities they need to produce the best student that can be had. The finer points can be argued with, but without these fundamental resources, we are left with a generational cycle of ill-educated parents producing ill-educated children. Schools should be paid for directly out of the state budget along with whatever federal help is available. For politicians who only care about what happens on their watch, you are the ones guilty of criminal negligence and no one else.
Well explained ideology, Best interview ever!!
The best analysis on US politics I have ever heard ... what a great mind !. Thank you.
I was in Sweden in the early 1980's when a discussion ensued on costly US education versus free socialized education there ~~ The Swede I was talking with stated " America's down fall will be that it is educating it's wealthiest not it's brightest " ~~ It is frightening watching this happen!
School was certainly wasted on trump!
@@canuckprogressive.3435 My own opinion is that the former moron-in-chief has dyslexia and quit reading at 13 when he found you could buy homework, test answers, and test takers (see SAT). Thus he speaks like a 13 yo with a 13 yo's linguistic skills.
That was one of the most outstanding guests that you have ever had on your show.
Good Job
"They hate the public good, they hate the common good" is a solid summation of conservative thought!
12:50:" iF YOU THINK SCHOOLS ARE CRUCIAL, THEN WHY ARE THEY BEING DEFUNDED"? Excellent.
This guy is so smart! David is such a good interviewer
great interview, eye opening and rich with insight and where America is now. Fascist State.
Brilliant! I’ve been railing against private education for years! And I’m in Canada.
My God this guy is spot on. And now I'm scared to death.
TYPICAL WOMAN
been scared to death for over 4 years, where you been?
@@jerryjerry7561 2008-16 SCARED THE BEGEEZUS OUT OF ME...NOW IM SCARED AGAIN
WONDER WHY I ALWAYS GAIN 5-6,000 RDS OF AMMO EVERY TIME A DEMOKKKRAT GET IN THE WH?
@@joeschmoe4436 you ALL should be most scared about what's happening at the poles.
This guy’s a loon. Look at how he conducts himself. The movement in his body when he talks, the hair the glasses and the shirt and the big display of books in the background with the certificates on the wall too. Look at the face he has and the way he holds his mouth. Do you think he didn’t earn a face like that at his age?
A voice of profound clarity.
I graduated high school in 1966. From the beginning my education included Civics, the study of our Government and the principals that we are all in this together and everyone needs to cooperate to get things done. I had no idea how we have deteriorated to the "ME FIRST" today but that explains what is going on in Society. I am ashamed of how even "educated" people act today. I'm really sad to learn this and I hope it's not too late, but we have lost so much in the years since I left school. I'm not sure we can even recover that in the next generation. I hoped to leave this place better than I found it, but I'm increasingly afraid it won't be happening.
One of the best presentation of analysis , one of the best speakers, Thank you so much for interviewing Henry Giroux!!!
Oh my lord he referenced Paolo Frieri and the Pedagogy of the Opressed AND the Education of Critical Consciousness. Love it. So much respect. I found a new hero. I want to read everything he ever wrote.
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education," Mark Twain. David, Please don't interrupt this man!
henry is giving me bernie vibes and i love it
He just needs to start every other sentence with "let me be perfectly clea"
Giroux's reference at 16:56 is to Robert O. Paxton. Recommended: Paxton's *The Anatomy of Fascism.*
Cant have a democracy without an informed citizenry. Love it.
Henry is spot on in everything he says, about how we lost our sense of community and working together for the greater good, to the Gordon Gekko mindset, where greed is good, and the ideology is to get whatever you can however you can, and screw everyone else, and it all really began and escalated exponentially with Reagan, and ever since
Fantastic interview. This is the inherent problem with libertarianism. Aside from the built-in attitude of "eff you, got mine", libertarians shrug off all responsibility on society and government writ large, and puts the onus on individuals, which is both impactical and disingenuous.
Both Libertarians and Republicans talk the talk of the absolute sovereignty of the individual over the social responsibilities to the tribe of a democratic nation until the bottom falls out from under them. They don’t turn down unemployment benefits if they lose their job, they don’t think they should have to sell their assets to pay their medical bills, and they should be first in line for financial assistance if a natural disaster wipes them out. It’s all social Darwinism until they are the ones being culled from the herd, and that’s when it’s time to find a scapegoat.
My sister home schooled her two children. 16 years old engaging his A.A.
I sent mine to public schools. He is 20 received his A.A.
Client home schools her nephew in religious ideology.
100% difference regarding an education and the ability to think, become & well fill in the blank
This guy needs a TH-cam channel! Thank you for having him on
Incredible interview. Thank you, David.
So much wisdom from this man. Thank you David.
A Trump Regime is the ultimate goal of Trump and the GOP! We MUST vote in droves in 2022 and 2024 to stop them!
I seriously doubt Trump will run or even win … I really can’t see that but I can see his admirers like de Santis run to make Trump proud
I couldn’t see him winning in 2016.
@@billsoderholm3125 2016 was then 2024 us still three years out , can’t see him winning again
@@marcuskuhnert6191 Most of the GOP backs it, he's already fully committed to it. Wakie-wakee.
I will never vote for a candidate who is tRumps partners in crime.All they care about is fasium and money.stay safe.✌😷
This man is wonderful. Why don’t we have more people like him speaking out. He’s hit the nail on the head.
I’m so happy that I went school prior to the 70’s
I was taught in school to examine everything. I read 4 different newspapers for social studies everyday. And living in NYC in the 60’s you had a plethora of Newspapers that covered left, right and center views.
Why the eff do we still have politicians? A modern country should be led by eminent people with knowledge in social studies, economy, urbanization, social security, health care, etc. why do loud-mouthed ignorants who are only interested in their wallet and egos are leading the country?
I first met Henry when he held a chair at Penn State, and I at JH. He has always impressed me with his unique take on the US and Canadian education systems and how they play into and are influenced by, the changing social climate, esp in the US. With his experience as a HS teacher, of study at Carnegi Melon, and teaching at Boston, Penn, and (for about 14 yrs, I think) at McMaster, he has a level of objectivity which is rare in North America today.
While relatively brief, this was a very informative and incredibly enlightening simplification of the belief systems and political culture in the United States, as they have unfolded during my lifetime. As a fifty year old man, I have spent my entire lifetime thus far, unlearning the perspectives I learned throughout my "schooling", in order to ultimately arrive in full agreement with the theories explored in this fifteen minute video.
Henry Giroux is so spot on with everything he says. I've been espousing and pointing out these problems and some solutions in this country for so long now. He has a highly insightful and intelligent mind with the ability to convey his thoughts and opinions in a succinct and understandable way. I look forward to reading his books. Thanks David for having such great guests!!
Excellent interview! Really refocuses the truth of the moment.
I had a number of excellent teachers in my Public School experience in the 60's and 70's, but one who stands out was a Social Studies teacher who often set up our class to discuss and debate current issues, not from our own view but from the perspective of randomly assigned alternate views. For example, when one of the big issues of the day was whether "Red" China should be admitted to membership in the U. N. we were assigned to debate the matter from the perspective of current U. N. members so we had to research how that particular Ambassador would argue the matter. I drew the "Soviet Ambassador" card while others in the class had to argue from the French, English, U. S. position, etc. We did similar exercises on racial matters, marijuana legalization, women's rights, and so on. Guess what? We all learned more than we would have ever learned about current issues than we would have learned if a teacher just stood in front of the class told us what to think.
Many years later, when I was managing a business with about 1400 Unionized employees, we were having a difficult time working some things out so I remembered my High School days and did something similar in a Joint Labor-Management exercise. Union Stewards and Officers met with my management and supervisory staff and I told everyone to "take their Union or Management hats off" and then proposed a number of "grievance issues" that I made up and then told the people at the meeting to argue the matter, not from their own position, but from the position of the other party. It was an eye opener for all involved and resulted in a much better and more productive work environment. Like Atticus Finch said to Scout, "You cannot know another person until you walk around in his shoes." Well, you can't really know your own beliefs until you truly understand the beliefs of others.
Critical thinking skills are "dangerous" to those who do not truly understand the how and why of their own belief systems. I choose to live a "dangerous" life in that regard.
Great interview David. That was enthralling
Wow! Such intelligence, with such insight! I learned so much, thank you for bringing him on your show!
Moral of the story actors should never be president I blame Reagan and Trump for many of are issues.
Yes; Reagan was a very poor actor, Trump was a fake wannabe actor.
really? I blame Obummer and now Sleepy Joe
@@joeschmoe4436 ignorance is bliss
@@jasont340 right? so many are clueless to what damage Obama did its ridiculous
@@joeschmoe4436 You know someone reading your comment might take it more seriously if you could refrain from the childish name calling.
When was that perfect time when education was about raising critically thinking individuals who would hold power accountable for their communities' well-being? I don't think education (especially mass education) was ever about that.
So you don’t want critical thinking taught? Is that your point? Do you even have one?
@@Alltime2050 Of course I want critical thinking taught. Giroux was implying that there was a time when education was "good". I have doubts about how good it really ever was.
@@waterfrodo4304 I would like to suggest some videos on TH-cam showing high school students from all over the world discussing topic in the late 50's and early 60's. It blew my mind! I'll look for one and see if I can post it in this comment section.
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these debates are mind-blowing. this america is gone. civilized debates by children! high school students from all over the world and happening in america
Henry is one smart man. He is right on about education and health care. We as Americans deserve so much more. I worry for my Grandchildren and their futures
Henry Giroux is an American treasure, Canada is lucky he chose here to teach and live. He’s a brilliant social critic
1980, with the election of a two-bit actor as president fomenting the economic decline in the US.
Thank you for having this man on, David. Have him on for at least an hour, though. It gives you the opportunity for more follow-ups. Worth every second.
Its okay to obey the laws, we can remove the corruption. Society can't function with liars in positions of authority
Acts 2:38.
It that in the Bible or some other religious book?
What an excellent interview! Thank you for sharing all of these wonderful points with us...
Wow, I need to do more research on Henry Giroux. It's disturbing to me that he may be right.
Most people seem to think America still has a chance, while I'm already in grieving mode. RIP America (1776-2017).
16:46: Bottom Line: Even Robert Patterson Is Now Calling This Shit FASCISM!!!!!!!! David: Best yet. Thanks.
The word "critical" generally means "uncritical love of leftist notions"
"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."
-Winston Churchill
Most based speech in the history of mankind
This man is brilliant. I’ve never bought a book quicker than his. Thanks for bringing great guests David
the last 50 years in 17 mins
What a treat it was to listen to you and Henry! More please.
Fully agreed, been calling it for years
Problem is - "semantic stop-signs" like "cultural marxist / The Left / university elite" are spewn by those so-indoctrinated _as if that is a sound argument_
It passes for "reason" among those making apologetics for fascism.
When you try to get them to engage in epistemology, they embrace contradiction. So how do you reason with someone who does this?
Great interview...so insiring to hear Henry articulate the nature of our arrival in these challenging times...and the pressing need for critical thinking and transformative actions. Cool to see a former professor of mine contiune the practice of really critical education!
Good catch for us up here in 🇨🇦
How I would enjoy just 5 or 10 minutes spitballing some possible solutions for the troubles of our present with this fine gentleman! Thanks for letting him share a few of his perspectives with your audience. 🤌🏻
indeed, fascism is a misnomer to describe American authoritarian far right. Fascism was not intertwined with religion, and it had strong social welfare policies. You should just call it trumpism. It has already gained its place in history
Fascism was a Nationalist, populist, left/right fusion politics. The modern Alt-Right despises everything about the left and is mostly Libertarian. They are very different imo and acting as though they are the same is asking for trouble.
@@peterwright5311 in fairness, they all share a love for authoritarianism, militarization of society, nationalism, xenophobia and racism. So, mostly similar, but not exactly the same thing
Henry Giroux is great. Spot on! Thank you for this interview. :)
David, none of this surpirses me. I've been fighting Reaganomics since 1986.
Great show. Learned more from this guy in a few minutes than I have in years. Please bring him back!
Universal Healthcare! In most countries that are poorer then the United States 🇺🇸. Facts!
Excellent interview! Here is someone who thinks things through, and his observations are absolutely spot on.
Religious Right and Moral Majority.
The topics in talking points in this conversation have been weighing heavily on my mind the last few days and weeks. I'm very glad that David had this individual on as a source of information. I will definitely look into his ouvre, as I found his speaking points very concise and succinct and apropos to many topical issues
Read Dark Money by Jane Mayer if you want to know how this cultural shift has been guided by millionaire and billionaire’s money
I could listen to this brilliant man all day long. Mr. Giroux speaks so eloquently, it's mesmerizing.
This was a very unique interview it seems to lead me to believe that his is a modern day version of the fall of the roman empire albeit the U.S. falling down.
thank the Left
The sixties was about free love, peace, personal happiness, open sexual expression etc.! All of these things are difficult to control, hard to convince people to go to wars, difficult to convince people to work 18 hours a day and ignore their families etc.
Introducing Fascism under Reagan was done with intent. We studied this in History class and Economics class in highschool in the Netherlands, 1985-1987. The USA probed it in Latinamerica.
I was a child during the Reagan years. Would you be willing to share more of what they told you?
@@octoscorpion2506 Reading your comment made me think back how we studied it. We had studied the historical markers for totalitarism, the 14 steps toward Fascism, then WW-I, the Interbellum, WW-2, the Korean war, the Iron Curtain, the Vietnam war, the US backed militias in Central America, the UdSSR war in Afghanistan, the Iraq-Iran war. The "Red scare" manipulation tactics.
@@octoscorpion2506 We had studied the Fall of the West Roman Empire, the Middle Ages, the Fall of the East Roman Empire, the Conquistadores and the Inquisition, Dutch Colonialism in History class in middle school. We were sensitized to the atrocities done to indigenous people in Latinamerica, North and Central America, Africa, Asia.
@@octoscorpion2506 We studied the rise and fall of totalitarian regimes throughout history. We learned to connect the dots.
@@octoscorpion2506 In highschool, we studied the patterns of the rise and downfall of imperial oppression, the French Revolution, police state tactics, the military expansion under Napoleon, the Equilibrium between France, England and Germany in Europe.
This is one of the best and most truthful interviews you've had, David. THANK YOU FOR THIS!
Great interview, the man has some big words to describe these complex problems, and probably best to use considering they are complex problems, not linear problems most right wing people can comprehend 😝
Great interview. Could listen to you two all day. Thanks David for bringing him on.
This is what I call ... A TH-cam video! 😜
While I watch clips from this show pretty often, I just randomly came across a video of Henry Giroux for the first time less than two weeks ago and quickly realized he was somebody I wanted to hear more from. He’s able to hold my (admittebtky not fantastic) attention through the combination of intellect, his grasp of fundamental and highly relevant issues, and his uncommon enthusiasm and dialectical skills. Great guest and great interview David!
Teachers spend way too much time on the lessons parents used to teach, right from wrong, how to share, getting along with another person, bullying is not acceptable, use brain and appropriate words not your teeth/fists/feet when you are angry. Telling stories to get others in trouble is not ok, and many other things.
Amazing conversation.
I voted for Reagan in both elections. At the time, I was only concerned about the Socioeconomic status of my family and the people around us. Today I'm ashamed to have contributed to the selfish anti-social culture that generation created.
Genius stuff. Thanks for this interview!
Too many adults are in positions, professionally, that they cannot manage… starting with Education
Thank you for introducing us to Henry Giroux, glad to see to see he's found a home at McMaster
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Fantastic interview David. Keep these insightful individuals coming. It was great how he linked together the entire history really the Anglo western countries have developed into: capitalism now thinly veiled fascism.
And it was good to hear him point out the big downside of the us healthcare system, unlike the UK, Oz & NZ free healthcare system: it's a right not a privilege.