Abandoning Your Truck? The Kiss of Death For a Truck Driving Career!

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  • Abandoning Your Truck? The Kiss of Death For a Truck Driving Career. Truck Abandonment is a dark subject and not talked about much in the trucking industry. In this video, we talk about why you’ll likely kiss your truck driving career goodbye, should you decide to ever abandon your truck and not return it to the trucking company (it belongs to).
    The truck does not belong to you. It should be returned to it’s rightful owner. Would you like it if someone just left your car in the middle of nowhere? I doubt it.
    There’s a high likelihood that you signed an agreement when you hired on to the trucking company, that you would return the truck, trailer and other equipment, upon ceasing to work for the company. Should you abandon the truck, you may find yourself in some legal trouble and/or criminal charges filed against you.
    Returning the truck is the right thing to do, although at the time, your emotions may run crazy and tell you to walk away from it and leave it.
    If you don’t return the truck to the company, there’s a very high chance, you’ll have a great deal of difficulty getting another truck driving job.
    The company will be sure to file a report and the incident will appear on your D.A.C. report most likely as an ‘unsatisfactory termination’. Who would want to entrust you with expensive equipment again?
    Bottom line. No matter how much you feel the company is at fault and deserves to have their equipment abandoned or how much the dispatcher made you angry, it is never worth deliberately abandoning your truck as a professional driver.
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  • @SmartTrucking
    @SmartTrucking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Hey there Big Strappers! MAN, I am so sorry we are late for today's upload. Technical issues. All fixed and ready to roll! So how 'bout ya? Ever been involved in a 'truck abandonment issue' or know of anyone who has? How did it turn out? Love to hear from you.

    • @someperson7
      @someperson7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When I was still at trucking school I overheard a conversation between an instructor and a former student who came back to visit. The student had gotten mad and left his truck (without finishing his 1 year contract to boot IIRC) and now couldn't get another trucking job to save his life. He was hoping one of the instructors could use their connections to help him out. I don't know how it turned out, but I asked about and was warned then... Whatever else you do, DO NOT abandon that truck, or your career is dead in the water.

    • @MikeBrown-ii3pt
      @MikeBrown-ii3pt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For my entire 27 year driving career, I've always worked for/been leased to one small, regional company so I have no issues myself. On the other hand, this company LOVES hiring QUALITY rookie drivers after they've gotten in trouble with the mega-carriers. They won't hire someone with safety violations but, since they know how the megas really work, they'll seriously look into abandonment reports on the DAK to see if they're legitimate. Even though, or maybe because, I'm an owner operator, I'm also a driver trainer. I've actually trained many rookies from megas over the past 20 years and I've heard all the horror stories. These drivers ALL proved to my company that they left the equipment at a company terminal and still got charged with abandonment on their DAK. Most of the people that I trained are also still working for the company that my tractors are leased to in one way or another-fleet driver, leased on owner operator, one even went into dispatch but still takes a run now and then. Those that aren't have obtained their own authority and are fully independent.

    • @cbpercy06
      @cbpercy06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Dave, what do you think about the old Chevy trucks? Mostly wondering about the C90 and the Bison.

    • @mannyreyes1340
      @mannyreyes1340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love your vids thanks for the advice

    • @ademirdizdarevic6434
      @ademirdizdarevic6434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave, back in the late 90's my family started a trucking company and not much later maybe a year or so into the business, we had a new guy coma on and shortly after starting might have been the 3rd or 4th weekend of his employment that he was off on the weekend, out of Joliet IL, and when Monday came to get him dispatched for a load he was nowhere to be found, wasn't answering calls didn't check in nothing. My dad sent the police to check on him and they couldn't find him but they also couldn't find our truck either, the trailer was there parked on the street but no bobtail. Once it was apparent that the guy had run off with the truck, it was reported stolen. About second week after that we got a call from the Las Vegas police informing us they found our abandoned truck in Vegas. It turns out the guy took the bobtail out for a weekend trip to Vegas, he had full tanks of gas since he fueled full prior to going home, it was enough to get him to Vegas but not enough to get him back I guess he might have lost all his money for the trip back because he didn't use the company fuel card after that. But the truck was in a total mess, the interior was completely cut up torn apart and gutted out. It was just too much damaged to be saved for an older FLD. We also had a truck left on the side of the highway a few years later, apparently another new guy starting out figured out in his first couple of trips that it wasn't for him and was apparently too homesick to get back of the road so he just left the truck on the side of the highway and left got a taxi to an airport and flew home.

  • @richardmcavoy6413
    @richardmcavoy6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    I once got so upset with my company that I abandoned my truck. It wasn't until the next day I remembered I was an owner-operator!

    • @mumbleIntel
      @mumbleIntel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      😆😆😆😆😆

    • @erikseavey9445
      @erikseavey9445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's funny xD

    • @mystikgaming2k
      @mystikgaming2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ha
      H
      A

    • @tonyresonno
      @tonyresonno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol too funny

    • @SoCal780
      @SoCal780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤓😳🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @briandarazs6620
    @briandarazs6620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    A guy I know picks up , then drives abandoned trucks back to who ever it belongs to. He does this for a living and he is VERY busy.

    • @RicArmstrong
      @RicArmstrong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sounds pretty cool.

    • @rollingacresfarmstead206
      @rollingacresfarmstead206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@RicArmstrong pretty cool yeah until you end up like a buddy of mine. guy died in one back around the 2000 mark. didnt locate the truck for 3 weeks. windows down the whole trip and threw his clothes away when he got home

    • @boricio74
      @boricio74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Confirms how the trucking industry treats drivers until they get fed up

  • @DRNT940
    @DRNT940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    And yet they can abandon you hundreds of miles from home alone.

  • @la48k
    @la48k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    What about trucking companies that abandon drivers lol? This is an issue with the industry. The drivers once again gets no protection...

    • @campshortclip
      @campshortclip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wouldn't drive a truck the second a company folds.

  • @wayiqra4399
    @wayiqra4399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    After watching all kinds of videos about trucking. It all sounds so criminal. May as well work for the cartels.

  • @martincarroll7470
    @martincarroll7470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Thank God for my boss who on retirement day asked me to take a local load and when I got back had this amazing lunch spread for me, also gave me a 2500 dollar bonus for being a good driver.

  • @gallezzo6650
    @gallezzo6650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I've done it twice. They're lucky I didn't set it on fire.

    • @Maoud2
      @Maoud2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      right lol

    • @jeffreyes1568
      @jeffreyes1568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lmao!!

    • @boricio74
      @boricio74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Correction. Sioux Falls, SD. In 7 below 0 Temps. They ignored the wrong driver that day. Guess I was suppose to freeze to death out there

  • @realistmw
    @realistmw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Not paying drivers well, not letting them go home,stealing from drivers.

  • @robertdz2381
    @robertdz2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I abandoned a truck in Gary, IN in 2009 and so what.

  • @erikseavey9445
    @erikseavey9445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Like they won't mark you as unhirable even if you do everything right just out of spite.

  • @tonyresonno
    @tonyresonno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You just gotta document everything when you quit a job. Some of these companies will try to stick it to you no matter what. The wonderful world of trucking

  • @Elk4758
    @Elk4758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Unpaid seems like a pretty good reason to abandon a truck. A contract is you get "paid this to do this" if you are not being paid that seems like a complete reasonable reason to abandon a truck.

  • @DanMcD80
    @DanMcD80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    ALWAYS have your new job lined up with a green light to start before giving your notice so if they say "we dont need you anymore" then you can start the new gig the next day

  • @inthejcurve7968
    @inthejcurve7968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great advice!! Get the carrier to sign something that proves you turned your truck in in good condition.
    I didn’t, and my carrier kept my last paycheck. When I asked why, they said due to damages, but there weren’t any. They just wanted to keep my last paycheck.

  • @heinzkitzvelvet
    @heinzkitzvelvet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don't give resignation notices. The day I'm done, is the day I'm done. They don't give notices they're gonna shit can us out here. They don't deserve a notice unless they're been really good to me. The company I'm with now has treated me the best of any of them so far. If I decide to leave, I'll do them right. All I've worked for before this one, noooope.

  • @michaellotz7875
    @michaellotz7875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Never tell them anything. ask for home time or at the next terminal you attend while sitting out a 34hr reset.... Quit, and have them sign off on everything. Never ever give the company advance notice, don't do them wrong but don't give them the advantage.

    • @nighttrucker628
      @nighttrucker628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They dam sure don’t give you a 2 week notice when they’re letting you go. They don’t give a shit about your finances! So do what’s best for you

    • @ukownit
      @ukownit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That what I did i was in a small bad company than video tape where Usually park than went home told him I quit because I try quit his way didn't work so yeah ...

  • @Martin280967
    @Martin280967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I had a couple of situations with my company but I made sure I did the right thing by bringing the truck and trailer back to the yard.
    You don't wanna help me out, I don't wanna help you out. And the truck is right there where it should be, have a nice day.
    After a couple of days I get the phonecalls if and when I get back.
    Make sure as a driver that you do your job well and you'll see who has the power.

  • @troybingham6426
    @troybingham6426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If a company labels you as "Do Not Hire" with no good reason (let's say they just did it out of spite because you quit for a better job) do you have any legal recourse to get it removed from your record?

  • @sirvilhelmofyonderland
    @sirvilhelmofyonderland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Companies ignore home time, short paychecks, abuse drivers to no end.
    Do get into trucking in the first place.

  • @dannyixoye262
    @dannyixoye262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Just so you know. Abandoning a truck is sometimes a smart move. I know because I did it. I was driving a 2007 Int. 9400 at the time. The thing broke down more in a years time more than I can remember. After having it fixed over and over, in different parts of the country, I went to an International dealer in Akron Ohio. One of the fixes was a broken leaf spring on the front on the passenger side that kept me sidelined in Delaware for a couple days. That worked only for 2 hours when something went pop and the front side was leaning again to the right. No spring was broken and I couldn't see anything that would prevent me driving back to Akron. When I got to Akron I took it like I said to the International dealer. The mechanic told me that I needed to take it to a suspension shop about 30 miles away because the rear suspension was bad causing too much pressure on the front of the truck especially to the right side. He told me not to drive it far or fast because it was dangerous to do so. So I limped the truck where I park it and called the company the next morning. After a bunch of Blah blah blah from them and after they told me I had to drive it back to the yard, l called the Ohio State Troopers office and just so happened to talk with the guy who heads up the commercial division. I explained my situation and he asked who the company was and then told me that they have been on his radar for months with violations after violations. He than asked what I was going to do and I told him that I was told by the dealer that it is not safe and I am not going to drive it. He said, that was a good idea and told me that if there were any problems with the company, just drop my name because they know who I am. Well I called the company and told them I am not driving the truck and they can come and get it. They told me that they would blackball me from driving for anyone else. I then told them that I spoke with a certain Ohio State Trooper and they then asked me where I parked it. I got my things out of the cab, left the key where I told them it would be and said goodbye.....no blackball from that job.....so sometimes ya got to do the abandoning thing. P.S.. a couple of the guys that worked there filed a class action suit against the company a couple of years after I left, due to them not paying what they should have for certain things. Because I worked there during a certain time in question, I was included and we won the case and received monetary compensation.

  • @jamesspafford5985
    @jamesspafford5985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’ve always kept enough money on me to get the truck home on my dime.. I have had a carrier refuse to head me to the terminal once an agreed upon date occurred. As expected, they cut off the fuel card, so I pulled my debit card out, fueled the truck up on my dime, and deadheaded to the terminal. Even then, they still wanted to accuse me of hijacking their truck, but having a receipt for the fuel and notice on the Qualcomm saved my bacon there... Good riddance to pain in the behind and worthless carriers!!! I was so fed up with them I didn’t even fight them for my last paycheck, got a better job and closed the door. They got their truck back, which was actually a dang nice truck, for what it was, and hired someone else!!!

    • @aviatortrucker6198
      @aviatortrucker6198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      OK so what happens if they cut off your fuel card and you don’t have the money? Are you then abandoning the truck or they are abandoning your ability to move the truck? That is not really truck abandonment is they basically parked your vehicle without fuel and know you’re leaving they have been giving you permission and you no longer have responsibility for the truck. I will take a picture of the fuel gauge and try to get a picture of the level of the tank by using some sort of stick. Then you can document on the QUALCOMM that the fuel card was turned off and you no longer can move the truck and you have basically fired me, therefore I reserve your right to claim your truck and I have no responsibility at this point as a non-employee to return it.

    • @jamesspafford5985
      @jamesspafford5985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aviator Trucker, here’s another one to consider, I had this happen to a friend of mine. A large refrigerated carrier actually abandoned a friend of mine at a Freightliner dealer, I want to say it was in Kingsport, TN. It’d be interesting to put that on a carrier DAC report!!! After sitting for 6 days at Freightliner, they sent a recovery truck and towed his assigned truck out and told him it was up to him to get back to the terminal to get another truck because he was at the hotel when they got there for the truck... Damnedest thing I ever did see!!!
      To your question, I’ve pondered that a few different times, and for a person that can’t come up with that kind of money, I don’t have an answer. I deadheaded from the PA line to Southwestern MI in my case, so it wasn’t major, but I’ve just always committed myself to keeping, at least, $700 for such an emergency as the fuel card is cut off and I’m going home!!! That’s also why I drive to any carrier I work for now. All I have to do is get the truck to the terminal... That, and 20 years of doing this job, I’ve learned what to look for and run away from it as quickly as possible!!!

  • @DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables
    @DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    If I'm going to quit a job, I'd rather park it at the terminal and hand them the keys. It's just the right thing to do and I'm petty enough to not want to give them the satisfaction of shitting on me as an employee.

    • @kevinbrown967
      @kevinbrown967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you take cheapest way home , don't you ?

    • @johnm6642
      @johnm6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Being professional

    • @johnm6642
      @johnm6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good video Dave as always. be professional even if the company does not deserve it

    • @mumbleIntel
      @mumbleIntel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I got shitted on when I quit a tanker job with Highway Transport. I parked the truck at a terminal near my home, turned in the keys and id badge and even nicely cleaned the inside. Started a new job and the new company says that Highway Transport claims I was fired. WTH!!

  • @nighttrucker628
    @nighttrucker628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Just say that there was an issue with the truck and take off so they can’t take you to court. 🤷‍♂️ Don’t ever just leave without a good excuse. If that doesn’t work just tell the courts that you were under so much pressure and stress it would’ve caused aggressive driving. DOT clearly states if you feel stressed DO NOT DRIVE!

  • @James-qq2vq
    @James-qq2vq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is bullshit... Drivers have a right to do as they please. As a former business owner and employee it's in my experience drivers who are respected, treated well and not told empty promises don't quit and abandon their work vehicles. I've abandoned an employer and the truck at one time due to empty promises. Had a driving job a week later as well as told new employer what I did. Drove with that company until I formed my own company.

    • @junkiexl86
      @junkiexl86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it boils down to circumstances. Where was it abandoned? Why was it? These are the things that are weighed for the potential outcome. Was this the result of a known issue that's been brewing between employee and employer that finally boiled over and the employer was at fault and pushed the employee over the edge? Carriers know if they've been exploiting or lying to a driver and to the point they will half expect an abandonment by pushing the matter.
      Its different if it's an out of the blue abandonment, out in the middle of nowhere, with little to no previous knowledge of issues regarding the employee and his employment by middle and upper management. This is guaranteed to end your career vs the first example where the issue(s) have been escalated up the food chain and not rectified (pay, mechanical issues, mistreatment etc). I think at the end of the day if middle and upper management knows they alone forced the hand, they will be less likely to blackball the driver.

  • @OTRTrader
    @OTRTrader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A number of years ago, I left two weeks notice, cleaned the truck like showroom and left it AT THE TERMINAL! They STILL not only put "equipment abandonment" on my DAC, but also that I abandoned a load. I sent them a very legal, yet extremely nasty letter. The bad marks were removed. It was the company with red trucks (with dry vans) in one of the southern states. Not all companies will do this, but for those that might, you should ALWAYS check your DAC. Otherwise, your advise is very good. Take pictures, because the company is more than likely NOT going to give you that letter, or to sign as acknowledging the good condition of the truck. Photos and credible witnesses on your side will go a very long way in your favor.

  • @hamstar_88
    @hamstar_88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You know what sucks, is when you actually return the truck with everything, keys fuel cards etc. Come to find out a year later that the company actually put on your dacreport that you abandoned the truck.

  • @ctfinneman
    @ctfinneman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Some company's deserve it.

  • @pointnIaugh
    @pointnIaugh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Truck abandonment is idiotic. However, I disagree because companies are pretty damn desperate these days.

    • @williamroberts8470
      @williamroberts8470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Some trucks have abandonment issues.

    • @someperson7
      @someperson7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      With all the drivers parked? I wouldn't count on it

    • @someperson7
      @someperson7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Serge .L Same. Lot's of drivers have gone back. But some jobs just got cut outright. Other companies went under. And it's not over yet.

    • @marioncobretti8210
      @marioncobretti8210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes I agree. I left Werner on a Sunday but I cleaned out my truck and left truck at terminal. And this man is correct becuz normally your dispatch and fleet manager will have a change of heart when your talking about leaving. So just return truck unless you plan to get out of trucking lol. Driving Locally now and making more money than over the road. Love trucking

    • @Ur_Mothas_Lova_716
      @Ur_Mothas_Lova_716 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did that shit in 95 still haven’t found a job

  • @allgasnobrakes123
    @allgasnobrakes123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I don’t think these new drivers are interested in having a trucking career. It’s just a job where they’re making money

    • @Maoud2
      @Maoud2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Its an extremely unattractive line of work unless you’re with a small company or running your own authority.

    • @Teadon86
      @Teadon86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Minimum wage, long hours, no power over your working hours, no power to control your schedule, dangerous job, people treat you like shit, and dispatch/company/costumer will shift blame to you if possible - and people wonder why most new drivers aren't interested in the job beyond the pay. Odd that.

    • @CesarRamirez-cn5fw
      @CesarRamirez-cn5fw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup I'm a year into trucking, I can confirm this statement.

  • @mumbleIntel
    @mumbleIntel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I abandoned a truck at my home with J&R Schugel after 5 weeks of employment. I never made over $450 a week and just could not afford a trip home from their Minnesota terminal. A ton of verbal incintives (15k) and guarantee $1200 a week. Never had any issues with employment afterwards. Nowi seek out companies within 500 mile radius of home to make it easier to go home if I'm not happy. Says a lot about a company if my personal vehicle gets repossessed due to payment issues😆

  • @kevinbrown967
    @kevinbrown967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Some companies have truck recovery divisions (Schneider) for instance

    • @miguelrobb5719
      @miguelrobb5719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Recovery devision? Hmm I wonder why drivers are doing that lol it’s obviously something unattractive about the company.

    • @Geronimoosceolamaccabeas
      @Geronimoosceolamaccabeas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gee I wonder why

  • @ErnestJustice
    @ErnestJustice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember the first company i started with. The last week with them I was feeling sick and I couldn't get hardly any sleep because of it. So after I finished the load I started home time. During that period they would let us bobtail the trucks home as long as it was in a safe spot. But when I got back I let dispatch know and checked into the hospital. A little over week later and finally was released. When I attempted to return to work, they said I quit and abandoned the truck.

  • @edwu8253
    @edwu8253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In the old days before tracking systems trucks sat for along time before being found

  • @Random-rt5ec
    @Random-rt5ec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Few people walk away from a $100,000/year job

  • @jeffb957
    @jeffb957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used to work for a mega carrier for the road service department. I was the guy who would go recover equipment. I'd recover units where the driver had been fired, abandoned units, and trucks that had suffered major breakdowns and they decided to bring the driver back home and put him in a different unit.
    We had one jackass abandon the truck in a state park forest in northern PA. The guy didnt even live up there. He just figured we would never find it. (Qualcomm was a brand new thing then)
    The available flight landed in Harrisburg. After I got off the plane, I called the RS manager and asked him, "how do I get up to where the truck is?" Manager said, " call a cab." I said "holy shit dude, it's like a 4 hour drive. That will cost a fortune. Are you sure?" Manager said, "I dont give a shit. In the end, we aren't paying for it. The guy who abandoned the truck will pay for it after we sue him."
    Yeah, dont abandon the truck. Its way WAY cheaper to just drive it to the terminal and get dinged for the out of route miles on your last check.

  • @curtisscissons1836
    @curtisscissons1836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I pick up abandoned trucks all over the country.
    You would not believe some of the conditions drivers leave them in.
    I could tell you about the one where someone had cats, and instead of using a litter box, he just spread cat litter all over the carpet in front of the bunk, and the cats used that. And yes, it smelled as bad as you might imagine.
    Or the guy who had so much trash piled up, it covered the bunk so you didn't even know the truck HAD a bunk and he slept in the driver's seat every night.
    Or the guy who had 30 bottles of urine piled up in every corner of the truck, and lined up all around the mattress.
    I have pictures of all of these.
    Or the guy that got in a fight with a lot lizard who then knifed him, whereupon he started flailing around, covering the interior with blood.

    • @mjpthetrucker9485
      @mjpthetrucker9485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yikes at getting knifed by a lot lizard. You should write a book on this.

  • @KozmikEl7
    @KozmikEl7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This reminds me Of a job I worked under contact and they waited until I was scheduled to come back to work and canned me over the phone with no reason.
    Then when I applied to another employer as a company Driver they referenced me as them doing me a favor for telling the other company I was rehirable go figure. They are the worst among humans ever since I promised myself to owner operator only work for myself and not to allow these carriers and the pencil pushers to hold control over me.

  • @dannyflemings864
    @dannyflemings864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It may not be a smart move to abandon your truck. But I've been driving for 40 years I know three drivers that have done it and they all went on to get better jobs at better company so it is not the kiss of death

  • @Ryan-xq2ot
    @Ryan-xq2ot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The last company I worked for I was prepared to abandon their equipment. My wife was pregnant and they kept giving me grief about going to the doctor with her (not an otr company). She was due to have the baby anytime and the appointment date was the only day I'd get off in a week if I didn't end up working that night. A blessing in disguise they tried to bully me into hauling over weight and I quit on the spot. Had she gone into labor while I was on the road I know they would have told me tough shit. In that case yes I'd abandon the equipment. It ended up not long after I quit we went to a routine appointment and they sent us straight to the hospital to have our daughter. I may have come close to missing that had I not quit

  • @charleshanna2089
    @charleshanna2089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not for abandonment of a truck
    Many times it's over equipment safety
    The driver can refuse to drive it on a daily inspection report

  • @richardmiseljr2413
    @richardmiseljr2413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The POS's at NORTH STAR now CALLED MINN STAR the first company I drove for starved me out then told every company I applied to that I abandoned the truck. I turned in at the terminal and had documentation from 3 office managers to prove it. They destroyed what should have been a financially rewarding career. I was not able to get into a good company because of them blacklisting me.!

  • @threehemis5566
    @threehemis5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can understand completely but I'd rather drive the truck back empty just to get home. One time at the Windsor/Detroit bridge I was in the mindset where I was going to walk away right there at the booth after being turned around and sent back to the USA side broker for the second time and having to pay the toll twice! Each time broker said you are good to go. As I rolled up to the customs guy for the 3rd time I said in my mind this is it im done here and now with trucking! thankfully it cleared. I didn't have 30 guys in the trailer either lol.

  • @deborahchesser7375
    @deborahchesser7375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My buddy had one of his trucks abandoned, and the motor had sand in it. He must have been treated pretty bad

  • @woodsbikes6130
    @woodsbikes6130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That is excellent advice. Thank you for putting that info out here for us to remember.
    My question is, what should a driver do when the situation is reversed and the company abandons the driver by telling them to park their truck at a designated location or just somewhere, clean out their belongings, and find your own way home. That situation has happened as you may have heard via TH-cam and other sources.
    Thanks again for the advice.
    Stay safe everyone.

  • @OneshotMovement
    @OneshotMovement 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Not true I abandoned a truck In Wyoming I’m okay got a good trucking company next week

    • @mumbleIntel
      @mumbleIntel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've done it. I discourage it if it can be avoided but it happens sometimes. I played sick on home time long enough to get my last crappy paycheck so they don't pull fees for abandonment and sent them a final pretty message on the Qualcomm. No company has ever brought it up.

  • @OTRTrader
    @OTRTrader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Some here are talking about carriers that fold while drivers are on the road and under loads. Unless there is already one,, maybe you can do a piece on that subject as far as what drivers' rights are, and what they should do in the event of something like that?

  • @davidpayton8336
    @davidpayton8336 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    After dropping off a trailer in the Portland, Or. area, my company sent me north of Vancouver, Wash. to pick up one of our companies trailers. The driver had just decided he didn't want to go to where he had been dispatched to so he just picked out a company along the road & preceded to back up the trailer to their loading dock and dropped it off there, just the trailer. The folks at the small manufacturing company were really nice to me about the whole thing, I was expecting a lot of bitching. :-)

  • @robertbowersock3471
    @robertbowersock3471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I quit Schneider 20 years ago I just made up a family emergency to get home. Didn't trust them. I was afraid they would have me get out wherever I'm at if I gave them 2 weeks notice. Luckily they had a drop yard near my town so they told me to drop it there. Never gave them notice and never came back. Already had another driving job waiting for me when I got home. I'm not a job hopper. I've only had 4 driving jobs in 20 years.

  • @michaelbierlein5642
    @michaelbierlein5642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve always been good about making the truck clean on the inside before I returned it. Usually cleaner than when the truck was first issued to me.

  • @arcticwanderer2109
    @arcticwanderer2109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagine if you are a new driver and Dave is your trainer for a month! You will be a pro right away.

  • @steezy7460
    @steezy7460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dispatchers working from home nowadays lol cant even talk to them face to face

  • @klaidenmorad103
    @klaidenmorad103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the best thing to do is don't be truck driver . my father and my both side uncles were truck driver so i grow up in trucker family and in my young age i found out that you may drive million and million miles but in the end you get no where ahead and that was in 80s that was best time as truck driver and forget about it now with all bs trucking today .

    • @genedrakes686
      @genedrakes686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did a few years in late 90's. When renewal due went back to shunting!

  • @gerardomendoza9688
    @gerardomendoza9688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Return the truck to the terminal empty or loaded just drive back or to the terminal and leave there thing there, that's the most i would do if I we're a company driver, that's what I did in mi first driving job back when I was a company driver

  • @thescrambler6684
    @thescrambler6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You’re wrong, I’ve done it a couple times and had another job the next week😂

    • @leonardk.7980
      @leonardk.7980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      shiiiiiid my count is 10 times over the years and always kept a job...but thats over now I'm with a wonderful outstanding company now...

  • @shawnthompson248
    @shawnthompson248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was once employed with covenant transport the terminated me for not having my hazmat they didnt give heads up is that legal? Besides that im in the southern california area whats good local position to apply for?

  • @gaypreator8547
    @gaypreator8547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You over looked the the snotty dispatcher that has you fuel card turned off because you’re coming home, with or without his/her blessing. Happened to me after planning, for a few days off, for six weeks. No no going to eck one-two-three more loads out of you. One of my favorite - they did what!!!! stories. You’re right though sometimes it’s hard to hold it all in..😄

  • @SquirrelTruck84
    @SquirrelTruck84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My friend was hired onto a new company. After a few days of waiting, they had him flown to pick up an abandoned truck. He said there was a huge pile of shit on the seat, piss jugs n trash everywhere. He cleaned it all up himself n hit the road.

    • @SmartTrucking
      @SmartTrucking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! Above and beyond the call of duty!

  • @ajwilson605
    @ajwilson605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Company I worked for had a recovery division. They would put out lists of tractors and trailers that weren't accounted for with a bounty, the amount depending on how long the equipment was missing. Average bounty on an empty trailer was $1000, a loaded trailer could go as high as $2500. I'd pull into a distribution center and cruise the lot after dropping my incoming load. I made a bunch of extra money that way. The last year I worked for them I worked local out of the terminal. I worked it out with the terminal manager to pick up abandoned tractors. The company had 3 terminals in Texas and I'd take a abandoned tractor to the closest terminal. I had a Jeep with a towbar on it and a custom hitch that would bolt to the tractors frame rails. I averaged 2-3 tractors a week. They paid me flat rate on the tractors depending on how far it was from a terminal. Minimum was $500....... Best I ever got was a tractor and loaded trailer abandoned in a rest area in Wichita Falls,TX. The load was auto parts going to Mexico, a JIT load. I got it and drove it to the Laredo terminal then rented a car to get back to my Jeep. Made $5000 plus expenses on that one. Now retired....but I miss the good old days..!

  • @aviatortrucker6198
    @aviatortrucker6198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The best and most effective way to terminate from the company is to know your termination date approximately and plan you’re home time on that date. When you get home, you take out everything in your truck except the bare minimum that you can put in one or two suitcases. This might include leaving your toys and CB radio etc. When you’re home time is almost over you call your dispatcher and tell him there is a change of plans. You have an ill relative and you must take a leave of absence, perhaps up to 30 days. You then tell them you need a load to, through or relay able from the yard as you wish to return the equipment because you know that they do not want their truck parked for that length of period. They will assume when you come back, they will reassign you either that truck or a different one if that one is not available. In the meantime after you drop the truck off and you Crackhound it to your next jobs orientation they will not question your return and in most cases not even try to recuperate the sign on bonus installments that they paid you. They think you’re coming back. I have done this many of time in my career and never had an issue and they get their equipment back in the yard safe and sound.

  • @bodiene3248
    @bodiene3248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I abandoned my truck and made some money before I abandoned it

  • @sstevocamaro
    @sstevocamaro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Long live the Lattice (Lettuce) King 🤴

  • @thomastucker3878
    @thomastucker3878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Is there a DAC like report that also keeps track of what companies are having high rates of their trucks being abandoned? I feel like if the company’s treating a larger number of drivers bad enough that they abandoned their trucks maybe they should take more responsibility for this

  • @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793
    @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What if they leave you out there on the road with no money or fuel card, what do you do? Drive the equipment as close to the yard as possible, still on the side of the road.

    • @RicArmstrong
      @RicArmstrong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, that's a good question.

  • @andrewkellerhals1361
    @andrewkellerhals1361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Both times I've resigned from a company, I made sure that my home time before I planned to resign that I emptied the truck and had nothing but a duffle bag, pillow and sleeping bag, so when I dropped it off at the terminal, it was 10 minutes to be gone.

  • @cheknecht3092
    @cheknecht3092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can avoid all of this by not doing OTR. In Texas there are a lot of jobs or your home every night.

  • @lordenki9429
    @lordenki9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m guilty, I abandoned a challenger truck. On the application it asked if there was anywhere I didn’t want to go, I answered “New York City”. So in 3 to six months I was only dispatched away from that damn city once. So one day on my way to cross the border, I stopped at a small trucking company on the outskirts of my town, I talked to him, told him the truth, he admired the crappy challenger Volvo piece of crap, and he hired me, I parked the challenger goofy mobile in a lot not far from home, and was in a truck, on a job I stayed happily at for ten years

  • @williamcarey8529
    @williamcarey8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video and great advice given by you!! I loved the story at the end!! I have a number of similar to your bridge story!! I drove in Europe for a number of years and it could be a real problem getting into the United Kingdom with people trying to stow away in the trailer!!
    I remember one time I got a load forthe Modena, Italy area and my trailer was not completely full. I drove off of the ferry in Calais, France and stopped to get a good meal at a restaurant in Calais. I took off about a 1/2 hour later and drove on 4 hours later and when I stopped there was a lot of yelling and screaming coming from the inside of my trailer!! I called the Gendarmerie and they arrived with a mini bus and took them away!! They all thought I was going to the UK when actually I was going to Italy!!

  • @macmikey
    @macmikey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was tasked with recovering a rig from mobile Alabama and then finish the delivery to Texas. After that, I dead-headed back to PA to return the rig. Took me a couple days and had to fly to Alabama. Hated the guy who did that as soon as I heard he did it.

  • @derekryan5323
    @derekryan5323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These companies don’t give a crap about their employees and during this covid they definitely are making their own karma

  • @chadchapman7986
    @chadchapman7986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've did it twice. They left me no choice. Now I haul asphalt and make more $ in 8 months than I ever did OTR. Home every day and no winter driving.

  • @srmj71
    @srmj71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've watched a couple of this guys videos. Every one I've seen, he's telling you the driver, to do what's best for the company, while trying to convince you it's best for you.

  • @paulboegel8009
    @paulboegel8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Companies are desperate for otr drivers.

  • @johnajax631
    @johnajax631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Trucking is a turd wrapped in baloney you have nothing to lose.

    • @jdsparks100
      @jdsparks100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thing I love bologna, and can handle eating shit every now and again. I’m headed out in 16 days. Green as they come...

    • @erikseavey9445
      @erikseavey9445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jdsparks100 You sound it.

    • @craigrandall1915
      @craigrandall1915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice description of the trucking industry. Trucking companies have no issues about abandoning their drivers 3000 miles from their homes.

    • @boricio74
      @boricio74 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well put Sir

  • @jayrider2726
    @jayrider2726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Drivers should have a place to report company's.....just as company's have DAC to bad mouth us.
    I started a job with a company...on my first run out my right side mirror was shattered and bent when I came out of a truck stop 1k miles away from my terminal. Someone obviously hit It. I called to get permission to have it fixed at the truck stop...they denied me and said it was to expensive....they said it would get fixed when they got me another load back to the terminal...I refused to get another load and they fired me....they told me to leave the truck at the truck stop and they apparently had someone else pick it up. They said leave the keys in the truck. They reported me as abandoning a truck. This happened my first week on the job....maybe if I was one of their long term drivers they would of had the mirror fixed at the truck stop.

    • @sstevocamaro
      @sstevocamaro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn man that’s horrible! Where you able to find another trucking job?

    • @KozmikEl7
      @KozmikEl7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As expected when they hit you with refusal to work they'll tell you almost anything then claim everything to their benefit which toasts you in the end!! Best option is to do the best you can do in those situations and get the hell out of there when possible with the very least liability as you can.

    • @wormwoodfive398
      @wormwoodfive398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Name the company ... help others not work for snakes

    • @xxxCawsomenessxxx
      @xxxCawsomenessxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm gonna invest in some serious ass saving equipment when I start, dashcams, call recording a good point and shooter and the like

    • @Geronimoosceolamaccabeas
      @Geronimoosceolamaccabeas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that's the best idea iv heard we need something to to put these people out of business and stop with their lies

  • @canucktruckerbear
    @canucktruckerbear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive abandoned a truck.....
    I finished the load, called dispatch and told them not to book me for another.....drove to the terminal and even left it clean for the next sucker before walking into the office and and literally tossing the keys at the owner.
    Unfortunately im taking cerb now,
    But its better than being in that truck as its breaking up like the shuttle Columbia, going down the smasher into Hope.

  • @tomcornwell1516
    @tomcornwell1516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lest we forget, the company does not own me! I wouldn't work for a company that uses DAC. Plenty of good jobs out there without putting up with there xxxx

    • @kevoneone
      @kevoneone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha ha ha when I left mine they were lucky I didn't set it no fire

  • @longwhiteline3308
    @longwhiteline3308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long story short if you just put in your resignation and communicate with higher up you'll live a less stressful life. Keep your experiences and move on.

  • @BradWeber82
    @BradWeber82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well done guys another great video. Thanks for the info keep them coming. Have a great day

  • @wolftrainservicesltd6418
    @wolftrainservicesltd6418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's why I have one truck and one trailer. I considered a 2nd truck and trailer for about 10 minutes.
    Ian
    Wolf train services ltd.

  • @TheMoneyRide
    @TheMoneyRide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to abandon a truck full of cattle 🐄 in the middle of Manhattan.

  • @iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT
    @iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey, as long as you're driving the truck over a cliff with a fireball for dramatic effect is still better than abandoning it in a bad neighborhood with the doors unlocked.

  • @teamsters2824
    @teamsters2824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Put some salt water in the fuel tank right around the block before you pull back in haha

  • @TNG64
    @TNG64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can a past employer be dishonest on a DAC report? Is there a level of protection from this for a driver?

  • @greenhillscustomlawncarell1139
    @greenhillscustomlawncarell1139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trucking and career don’t belong in the same sentence. Most people who drive trucks are on their last options for work.

  • @asheiidez5610
    @asheiidez5610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yup pretty damn desperate. Glad I took another job and I'm staying with it.

  • @fgrodriguezqac
    @fgrodriguezqac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait until we have self driving trucks and the machine gets pissed, it will drive the truck off a cliff.

  • @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793
    @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Touchy thing advertising for a carrier. If you think they are worth it, thanks for the information.

  • @bengiforte265
    @bengiforte265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know a driver that has abandoned 6 trucks over the years. And he still drives now. Abandonement isn't a career killer. But the best thing for a driver is to stay away from those typical OTR companies. They are crap places of employment!!!

  • @michealheavy1240
    @michealheavy1240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I work for a local equipment company and at times it blows my mind of drivers that reject loads or blow up at dispatchers. I ask my self if you're not comfortable with these loads then why apply for the job?

    • @STScott-qo4pw
      @STScott-qo4pw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      my employer and one of the despatchers said to me recently that i never complain about not getting weekends or which places i'm sent. i knew getting into this gig trucking that many would be the time i wouldn't be able to get home at a certain hour - trucking doesn't really work well on a precision time approach (traffic? DOT stops? breakdowns?). there have been three places i've refused to return as the docks were not built for anything as big as us but the asshole shipper wants to save money and send everything in one 53' unit rather than two-three straight trucks.
      one place the receiver was an ignorant, abusive little prick. told the number two about it - the owner was told immediately. he pulled out his crackberry and telephoned the shipper then and there. holy shit! problem RESOLVED permanently.
      if i don't want to return somewhere almost always it's because the place was never built for vehicles as big as us and the risk of crunch-and-crack is simply too high. It's not a matter of being cautious; it's a matter of there just not being the real estate needed for the geometry of backing up a truck. Even trucking cannot "harry potter" the laws of physics.
      nevertheless the two despatchers with whom i've worked for almost 11 yrs have been EXCELLENT. if there are problems that need time well, there are problems and despatch is working on it, mindful i'm there. many is the time i have taken resets Out There but when hired i told the company i was fine with it provided i had notice at the start of the trip - stock up my sleeper's pantry, extra clothing, more water, medication if needed.
      clear communication at the beginning of employment can help sort out stuff but there are also a lot of lowlife companies out there that view (and treat) drivers as just a buncha warm bodies. anyway, if it's not safe to return to a place i say so very clearly and state what is the issue over the ELD and take a picture of it along with the read-receipt symbol clearly visible. CYA.

  • @Lamia7609
    @Lamia7609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I work for a small trucking company. We had a guy who said “I can’t do this anymore your truck is at the Walmart parking lot” Walmart called us told us they were going to tow our truck. The owner had to pay someone to go with him to retrieve the truck which was three hours away. So he had to draw a contract that if they abandon a truck they forfeit $500. The other time a guy abandoned the truck with a load because they overloaded him and we told him he had to go back and get reloaded properly he threw his tablet in the parking lot and left the truck unlocked luckily the truckstop lady picked up our tablet and mailed it back to us...another four hour trip pay two guys to go pick up that truck and deliver the load.

    • @xxxCawsomenessxxx
      @xxxCawsomenessxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of actual leverage do you get then

    • @carloslugo9457
      @carloslugo9457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Literally exposing why no one should work in that company of yours

  • @clintonpowell6146
    @clintonpowell6146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is their a clause in the contract that states, pay must be on time and not be shorted, get you home on time.

  • @maxpuppy96
    @maxpuppy96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always get the truck back to the terminal, I use to recover trucks for a company, people would shit in the bunk piss all over the truck rip the dashes apart, they would take me out in a car or now you can fly an Uber. I would finish the loads and get the truck back, I got paid more for that than actually driving.

  • @rickyharvey4835
    @rickyharvey4835 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I abandoned a truck for Werner and a month later they hired me back !!! I guess they just needed a steering wheel holder and didnt care

  • @cohacyn
    @cohacyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Here is my "abandonment" story. Was working for about a year for a company out of southern Ontario - this was about 15 years ago or so. Did pretty much whatever they wanted including team and east coast (NY - NJ). I had got home late Thursday night and was looking forward to a nice weekend however I got a call Friday morning and was asked to get a load to NY for early Saturday morning. The dispatcher used all his normal tricks to get me to take the load and I eventually accepted. Got to the delivery site, took my break / got unloaded and headed to my pickup for my back haul. Everything went pretty smoothly and I was on my way back to the terminal when I get a call asking if I could deliver the load in the Toronto area on Sunday. We normally drop the loads at the terminal and day drivers did the final mile delivery. Being Sunday they didn't work so again I said yes told the dispatcher to send me the details on the Qualcomm. I noticed there was no delivery time so I called the dispatcher and asked when the load needed to be there by and he said just needs to be there on Sunday. I end up parking at the scale in Oakville on the QEW and get a buddy to pick me up. Stayed over, went for a nice breakfast and had him drop me off at the truck. Problem was the truck was gone. I call up the dispatcher and explain the situation. He bitches me out and leads me to believe the truck had been stolen. After a few minutes of this he changes his tune and tells me that load had to be delivered by 7 am and they had to get a driver to pick the truck up and finish the delivery. They ended up firing me for abandonment. Tried to get me to sign some documents saying everything was my fault. Of course I didn't sign anything. That was my last OTR job. Mainly been hauling fuel since.

    • @erikseavey9445
      @erikseavey9445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That legitimately makes my blood boil.

  • @pbmartinfencing
    @pbmartinfencing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A little bit of sand in the engine oil does wonders long after you leave the truck at the terminal. throw a handful in 5 miles from truck drop off ….

  • @pheleant
    @pheleant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that this has gotten worse for one other reason. I can't believe how many young people these days just don't show up for work. They don't give notice and they don't care.
    There are many young people that are responsible and do what we would call "the right thing to do." But there is a culture today in young adults that I don't understand. They just walk away from any responsibilities, and they don't care. How do these people keep getting hired.

  • @marklittle8805
    @marklittle8805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I heard of a guy with my old carrier who left a truck and load on the Queenston/Lewiston bridge. He was pissed with the company and life in general and just been told he wasn't getting his days off . That was common. We were mainly all hourly guys hauling auto parts into GM . We would often to Tonawanda or Lockport NY to get parts for GM Oshawa. Not sure what run he was on since this was before my time, but pulled the brakes, shut It down and tossed his keys into the gorge below and hitched a ride home . Not sure how he bullshitted his way past Customs on the Canadian side but apparently is what he did ..
    Can't imagine he drove again

  • @antonjames4867
    @antonjames4867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You abandon a truck they turn the truck off, so don't let them know your quitting just drive to the nearest terminal and hand them the keys

  • @colt2206
    @colt2206 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can always sue the company for retaliation. Call a lawyer