Lego, on the frist Kings goal, it was NOT Phil Hronek who gave the Kings the 2 on 1, it was JT MILLER!!!!! JT drifts a lazy pass off the boards that hung Hronek out to dry as he was forced to either try to make a difficult play on it, and risk exactly what happened, or retreat and cede the play to the Kings, which could also just as well result in a goal after o-zone pressure by the kings. I didn't even notice JT being the direct cause of the 3-0 goal, so by my tally, that's actually THREE, COUNT 'EM THREE goals against Miller cost the team, and at least one goal for, when he did a lazy swat at a puck in the red zone, Ilya Michayev style, and just killed the play. At least Ilya Michayev, for all his faults, still checked well and while he was a scoring black hole for the Canucks, he was just as much of a scoring black hole for the other team as well! Miller not only costs us goals for by not converting his chances, not getting his linemates chances, but also costs us goals by not checking his men and caughing up the puck in ways that makes his team mates look bad. He even tricked you into THINKING Philip Hronek made a bad play on the first goal when it was really Miller's bad play that screwed Hronek over.
Simply speaking, we traded the wrong people away, we should have ditched miller in place of zadorov and lindholm. Our Dcore would be alot stronger and we would never be having these problems
Thank you for noticing what so few do. Pettersson's more then just a flashy goals and assists guy. So much more, and until he had a bum knee last season and he had to adjust how he played to work on one knee, we didn't even notice. Even at his worst, the worst complaint even his most outspoken detractors could ever muster was "Pettersson was invisible last game" Well, lately JT's not been scoring and he's far from "invisible" he's conspicuous in how many goals he's helping the other teams get, and the chances he gets that he can't even be bothered to TRY and bury, and in his downfall, he's burying guys like Hronek who got hung out to dry by Miller on the first goal, where Miller drifts a lazy pass off the boards that Hronek had to try and handle due to his momentum taking him forward, which pulled Phil out of position. JT could have thrown a crisp pass back, which would have reached Hronek well before the checker did and that 2 on 1 never happens and Hronek is not make to look bad by those who didn't notice the sloppy Miller pass that set that play up. He's hanging his wingers, including 40 goals Boesser The Beast out to dry by just not playing to the point their shifts with JT are effectively unofficial penalty kill shifts, as MIller just drifts about not doing anything, leaving the others to play 4 on 5. How's Boesser supposed to score anything when his playmaker's stopped making plays and he's having to play like it's a penalty kill shift? Tocchett's tried every other winger he can think of on the other wing and nothing works because Miller's still there making that line always consist of 2 men and a baby.
They both suck. At 11.6 million a year you shouldn't need to be babied and pout when you don't like your teammates. You should be frickin leading the team and making everyone else better. 11.6m x 8 years OMG
I think the issue is the team made terrible moves in the off season. The D Core they should’ve kept they let walk. We should have kept Ian Cole and Zadorov at the bare minimum. Petey should have never gotten a 11.6 mil contract especially after the season he had last year. Now we’re stuck with very bad defence, our goalies are being left to dry. The offence has 0 spark. The only people we have this season who haven’t given up regardless of the situation we are in is Hughes, Sherwood & garland. They’ve been the only guys showing up every single game.
what's with all the boeser hate in this comment section lol. he literally has the 2nd most goals on the team even after missing 7 games (debrusk is first)
@@randogirl2861 I think the fact that he is a free agent coming up. This team is done and they need to think about moving these pending UFAs if they can't sign them before the deadline.
just JT. We can't really get a fair assessment of the other 19 guys when that one guy is costing us 3 goals against, and not even trying to score anymore. He's already left the team mentally, so let him also leave physically so we can see what they can do with life after Miller's dead weight.
Glad that I forgot about the last game until someone reminded me, and then I didn't check on tonight's game until it was 5-1. They're back in 2023 form, and it's sad.
I would take a Jack Hughes + Luke Hughes trade anyday at this point.Idc if we had to trade all of our “star players” (minus Quinn Hughes). Would be perfect for branding and I bet we would still do better😂 - Petterson, Miller, Boeser, Demko, Myers (fingers crossed?), Hoglander + DPetey/Willander to sweeten it up😂
Was at the game, miller looks like hes quit on the team, quinn looked frustrated, they lacked every essense of cohesion. Passes arent crisp, defence isnt communicating, puck isnt moving out well or stayin in the offensive zone. Deshairnais is atrocious defesnively and so is forbort. Our forwards all look bad. I like tocchets style last year but it feels like time for review, when 1 guy its bad it can be addressed, when every player is consistently bad and the coach doesnt have a solution either he changes his system or we move on, the players arent biught in this year and it shows
While the players bear the most responsibility for this funk, management and coaches are not without blame. It was Rutherford and Allvin who decided that the team needed middle/bottom six forwards this off-season over defencemen. DeBrusk, Sherwood, and Heinen were signed and Zadorov and Cole were allowed to walk. It seems like only after all the dust settled that the team realized the D core is AHL-calibre after Hughes and Hronek that they brought in Desharnais, Forbort and Branstrom, who are all at best bottom-pairing guys. I think these changes fundamentally changed the team for the worse. People used to criticize Boudreau for having no systems... but can we also say now that Tocchet's team lacks creativity? The team is consistently outshot by a large margin (Tocchet's Coyotes were like that too), and no one other than Quinn Hughes is weaving around trying to create something. Yes, having a system is important, but it seems like the team is now choking on its collective neck when playing. Everyone appeared trying to get to set place for a set play, and when the other team prevented the players from doing so, no one seemed to know what to do.
9:31 Trade Miller and Pettersson BOTH to NJ for both of the Hughes or whatever. Dumbest comment ever. Trade 2 guys who don't get along together for 2 brothers? Trade Pettersson for Jack Hughes who is better? Vancouver is losing their minds and their team. The Canucks are done and will miss the playoffs. Jim Rutherford the control freak has no control and can't win "his" trade.
@@nilswedman9818 I'm sick of the Pettersson free ride. On the Kings 3rd Goal Lekkerimäki looses O-zone puck battle EP40 gets caught flat footed at center ice in transition letting his check waltz by him, then he takes his usual slow loop and makes a half-hearted attempt to back check. Mean while Lekkerimäki who is 30 feet up ice disengages from the D-man and bust his butt back checking and almost cuaght the goal scorer ( who happened to be EP40's guy) while EP40 was left 20 feet behind. I keep hearing EP40 is a good defender??? Really.
That's because he is the leading offensive play driver on a team with nobody else doing it. If I had $50m USD in the bank and was being attacked in the media and by fans I would just flip you the bird.
They're done. Looks like they peaked last year and now its over. Trade everyone for draft picks and kick the can down the driveway. Maybe theyll be contenders in 2099.
You should build a team back to front, Soucy and Myers isn’t good enough! Right now they have two great d, but the rest is third pair d. Not good enough! If you don’t have stability from d, you seldom have good offense.
This team sucks so much these days . It's hard to be a fan .. Jt Miller can't even get a shot on net ..I used to call out Pettersson for this crap ..Something needs to happen
I told u guys need to trade the 4... Brock, Petey, JT, Hronek... then we can get rid of those 3 useless giants... then build around Quinn... We need speed and grit... Package something with the Wild with Brock.. I want Matt Bodly... we need guys like him... then package Petey to either Washington or Buffalo...
The last 2 games the Canucks have played have been absolute disasters, and the way they’ve been playing for much of this month suggests to me that only when the calendar has changed to February will the Canucks perhaps stop losing games.
Let's just start with curing the cancer first, then see how the team and coach responds to being free of the dead weight. When you've got a player who's grown as toxic as Miller has, to the point he's spotting the other team 3 goals per game, it's hard to get buy in on any system until the guy's gone and the remaining guys can have a chance to reset and get it together. During those blessed 10 days without Miller, the team looked good, and like they were about to go on a major heater, then Miller came back and they all cooled off again, and stubled through December on a win a game, lose a game pace, now it's gotten so bad they're playing like a last place team. Move Miller, see how the team responds, then decide what else is needed.
Hey buddy. Pick on our shitty team but lay off the fans. You were lucky to get Gretzky and that’s your only claim to fame. The fans are frustrated and you would be too.
Miller showed what he could do a few games ago and then quit. The biggest problem is that we will be lucky to get a bag of pucks for him, we can't even wave him him without his consent. NMC... He can be a healthy scratch but he will still be on the books....Done
I liked him up until he gave up on the team. The season's only half way through, the Canucks are still in the playoff hunt, but not if Miller's going to be a big baby like this and hang his teammates out to dry like he is. He's playing selfish -- well he's being selfish and not even playing hockey, just going on the ice and watching his mates play short handed in all but name for 45 seconds, then sitting back down on the bench.
Tocchet deserves alot more blame then he's getting, he's the coach and he let his locker room get out of hand .
Trade Miller and Peterson together to the same team.
🤣🤣🤣
Remember when E Friedman tried to say Petterson was the best player in Canada ! Lol
To the rangers and let them fester lol
Lego, on the frist Kings goal, it was NOT Phil Hronek who gave the Kings the 2 on 1, it was JT MILLER!!!!! JT drifts a lazy pass off the boards that hung Hronek out to dry as he was forced to either try to make a difficult play on it, and risk exactly what happened, or retreat and cede the play to the Kings, which could also just as well result in a goal after o-zone pressure by the kings. I didn't even notice JT being the direct cause of the 3-0 goal, so by my tally, that's actually THREE, COUNT 'EM THREE goals against Miller cost the team, and at least one goal for, when he did a lazy swat at a puck in the red zone, Ilya Michayev style, and just killed the play. At least Ilya Michayev, for all his faults, still checked well and while he was a scoring black hole for the Canucks, he was just as much of a scoring black hole for the other team as well! Miller not only costs us goals for by not converting his chances, not getting his linemates chances, but also costs us goals by not checking his men and caughing up the puck in ways that makes his team mates look bad. He even tricked you into THINKING Philip Hronek made a bad play on the first goal when it was really Miller's bad play that screwed Hronek over.
Nikita zadarov was an important piece.
lets trade and get him back we can save 3M :)
i mean, people are saying he's been trash on the bruins (i dont watch them)
But instead they decided to resign Myers 😞
And greedy
Its mind boggling they didn't keep him really.
He's worth more than Forbort, Desharnais and Juulsen combined.
Management needs to make some moves real quick before this season becomes a total bust. Weve only won 1 game in the last 7.
It’s over
Too late for that.
This is a selling year. Get some picks and rebuild.
@ all we do is rebuild
Nope. Stay the course. I don't want to make playoffs. We don't need a rental. When willander and pettersson will be bolstering the blue line next year
@TheBlazersfan22 need to get rid of pety
CAN WE RIOT?
NO
YES
LETS GO FOR THE HAT TRICK OF RIOTS 🥴🫡
Rioters don’t ask
Y'all are goons
The Canucks are playing like the Canucks. Their history is full of mediocrity. Get use to it.
None of that defeatism.......Washington eventually got their cup it'll come
Simply speaking, we traded the wrong people away, we should have ditched miller in place of zadorov and lindholm. Our Dcore would be alot stronger and we would never be having these problems
Petey was on pace for 128 points when miller was gone and petey is so much better than miller defensively, so yea trade miller
trade miller and see what happens to petey's play
He’s been ok defensively at the moment too
Thank you for noticing what so few do. Pettersson's more then just a flashy goals and assists guy. So much more, and until he had a bum knee last season and he had to adjust how he played to work on one knee, we didn't even notice. Even at his worst, the worst complaint even his most outspoken detractors could ever muster was "Pettersson was invisible last game" Well, lately JT's not been scoring and he's far from "invisible" he's conspicuous in how many goals he's helping the other teams get, and the chances he gets that he can't even be bothered to TRY and bury, and in his downfall, he's burying guys like Hronek who got hung out to dry by Miller on the first goal, where Miller drifts a lazy pass off the boards that Hronek had to try and handle due to his momentum taking him forward, which pulled Phil out of position. JT could have thrown a crisp pass back, which would have reached Hronek well before the checker did and that 2 on 1 never happens and Hronek is not make to look bad by those who didn't notice the sloppy Miller pass that set that play up. He's hanging his wingers, including 40 goals Boesser The Beast out to dry by just not playing to the point their shifts with JT are effectively unofficial penalty kill shifts, as MIller just drifts about not doing anything, leaving the others to play 4 on 5. How's Boesser supposed to score anything when his playmaker's stopped making plays and he's having to play like it's a penalty kill shift? Tocchett's tried every other winger he can think of on the other wing and nothing works because Miller's still there making that line always consist of 2 men and a baby.
Van not getting much in return if trading Milker is top move. That blows
They both suck. At 11.6 million a year you shouldn't need to be babied and pout when you don't like your teammates. You should be frickin leading the team and making everyone else better. 11.6m x 8 years OMG
First of all it’s not just millers fault it the atrocious defence that is plaguing this team and they are still not improving
I think the issue is the team made terrible moves in the off season. The D Core they should’ve kept they let walk. We should have kept Ian Cole and Zadorov at the bare minimum. Petey should have never gotten a 11.6 mil contract especially after the season he had last year. Now we’re stuck with very bad defence, our goalies are being left to dry. The offence has 0 spark. The only people we have this season who haven’t given up regardless of the situation we are in is Hughes, Sherwood & garland. They’ve been the only guys showing up every single game.
boeser is brutal let alone jt, what is this management doing behind close doors.
Well, we can see nothing ..As this team sucks this season
What boeser do
They need to trade UFAs at the deadline.
Even if they make the playoffs this team will get massacred in the first round.
what's with all the boeser hate in this comment section lol.
he literally has the 2nd most goals on the team even after missing 7 games (debrusk is first)
@@randogirl2861 I think the fact that he is a free agent coming up. This team is done and they need to think about moving these pending UFAs if they can't sign them before the deadline.
4:10 No tank for McKenna and Dupont and then get Bedrad in FA
Retire the team
just JT. We can't really get a fair assessment of the other 19 guys when that one guy is costing us 3 goals against, and not even trying to score anymore. He's already left the team mentally, so let him also leave physically so we can see what they can do with life after Miller's dead weight.
Glad that I forgot about the last game until someone reminded me, and then I didn't check on tonight's game until it was 5-1. They're back in 2023 form, and it's sad.
Told you all not to get all delusional after last win,but couldn't help it hey lol!!
I would take a Jack Hughes + Luke Hughes trade anyday at this point.Idc if we had to trade all of our “star players” (minus Quinn Hughes). Would be perfect for branding and I bet we would still do better😂
- Petterson, Miller, Boeser, Demko, Myers (fingers crossed?), Hoglander + DPetey/Willander to sweeten it up😂
Was at the game, miller looks like hes quit on the team, quinn looked frustrated, they lacked every essense of cohesion. Passes arent crisp, defence isnt communicating, puck isnt moving out well or stayin in the offensive zone. Deshairnais is atrocious defesnively and so is forbort. Our forwards all look bad. I like tocchets style last year but it feels like time for review, when 1 guy its bad it can be addressed, when every player is consistently bad and the coach doesnt have a solution either he changes his system or we move on, the players arent biught in this year and it shows
Play starts with the defense transitioning the puck up ice. I guess Allvin and Rutherford never played either position.
While the players bear the most responsibility for this funk, management and coaches are not without blame. It was Rutherford and Allvin who decided that the team needed middle/bottom six forwards this off-season over defencemen. DeBrusk, Sherwood, and Heinen were signed and Zadorov and Cole were allowed to walk. It seems like only after all the dust settled that the team realized the D core is AHL-calibre after Hughes and Hronek that they brought in Desharnais, Forbort and Branstrom, who are all at best bottom-pairing guys. I think these changes fundamentally changed the team for the worse.
People used to criticize Boudreau for having no systems... but can we also say now that Tocchet's team lacks creativity? The team is consistently outshot by a large margin (Tocchet's Coyotes were like that too), and no one other than Quinn Hughes is weaving around trying to create something. Yes, having a system is important, but it seems like the team is now choking on its collective neck when playing. Everyone appeared trying to get to set place for a set play, and when the other team prevented the players from doing so, no one seemed to know what to do.
Miller is destroying his trade value too. I wouldn't want him on any team that didn't have rock solid leadership to keep him in line.
They must approach the season woes with a level head, make the correct moves and come back next year hopeful and with a chance
They need to trade UFAs at the deadline. This team is done.
9:31
Trade Miller and Pettersson BOTH to NJ for both of the Hughes or whatever. Dumbest comment ever.
Trade 2 guys who don't get along together for 2 brothers? Trade Pettersson for Jack Hughes who is better?
Vancouver is losing their minds and their team. The Canucks are done and will miss the playoffs. Jim Rutherford the control freak has no control and can't win "his" trade.
Why would NJ want to trade Jack Hughes?
@@jlau5484 Exactly. It would never even cross NJ's mind to trade Jack Hughes.
Petterson has to be the softest most overrated player in the show.
Thank u
I agree that Petterson is a big problem rn but imo petterson is closer to 11 mil than jt is to 8
@ it’s both of them causing the problem but jt cared not anymore
@@nilswedman9818 I'm sick of the Pettersson free ride. On the Kings 3rd Goal Lekkerimäki looses O-zone puck battle EP40 gets caught flat footed at center ice in transition letting his check waltz by him, then he takes his usual slow loop and makes a half-hearted attempt to back check. Mean while Lekkerimäki who is 30 feet up ice disengages from the D-man and bust his butt back checking and almost cuaght the goal scorer ( who happened to be EP40's guy) while EP40 was left 20 feet behind. I keep hearing EP40 is a good defender??? Really.
Petterson and the rest of the team were playing quite well when Miller was gone. I wonder if that's a coincidence.
I think things went bad when those two assistant coaches left the team.
Seems like he doesn't want to be here. Tocchet yelling at his brutal plays and he just walks to the end of the bench.
he's gone by the end of next week
That's because he is the leading offensive play driver on a team with nobody else doing it. If I had $50m USD in the bank and was being attacked in the media and by fans I would just flip you the bird.
Well at least his faceoff % was at 80% in this game :D
They're done. Looks like they peaked last year and now its over. Trade everyone for draft picks and kick the can down the driveway. Maybe theyll be contenders in 2099.
we here more about miller than trump
Boeser, Suter, Forbort and Lankinen are all going to be free agents at the end of this season. Just saying.
So when are the devils giving you jack Hughes for that
You should build a team back to front, Soucy and Myers isn’t good enough! Right now they have two great d, but the rest is third pair d. Not good enough! If you don’t have stability from d, you seldom have good offense.
Can someone tell me why everyone thought the leafs game was good? It was against the leafs third string goalie. Am I missing something?
quiet quitting - one of us
This team sucks so much these days . It's hard to be a fan .. Jt Miller can't even get a shot on net ..I used to call out Pettersson for this crap ..Something needs to happen
He’s giving up because him and petty destroyed us
I told u guys need to trade the 4... Brock, Petey, JT, Hronek... then we can get rid of those 3 useless giants... then build around Quinn... We need speed and grit... Package something with the Wild with Brock.. I want Matt Bodly... we need guys like him... then package Petey to either Washington or Buffalo...
They need to focus on the free agents after this season first and foremost.
Tank for bedard?
The last 2 games the Canucks have played have been absolute disasters, and the way they’ve been playing for much of this month suggests to me that only when the calendar has changed to February will the Canucks perhaps stop losing games.
Go Canucks go!!!
Bye bye playoffs
Initiate the rebuild
Peterson & miller gone
How did we go from chanting JT Miller when he's not even playing, to this. Only in Vancouver.
i don't know, start by asking JT Miller maybe????🤣
Time to trade Petterson. He's paid HUGE MONEY to score GOALS - which he DOESN'T ! He's soft / fragile.
Glad I bought tickets
i will pray for those dollars you lost so badly
I know most ppl from Vancouver are gay so i am assuming all this hate and blame on JT is to hide the fact that EP is equally as bad as JT.
Or maybe the team as a whole just sucks and not the players
We have a miller hater unsubscribe
Fire Benning!!
;p;p;
Trade Miller and fire the coach.
Let's just start with curing the cancer first, then see how the team and coach responds to being free of the dead weight. When you've got a player who's grown as toxic as Miller has, to the point he's spotting the other team 3 goals per game, it's hard to get buy in on any system until the guy's gone and the remaining guys can have a chance to reset and get it together. During those blessed 10 days without Miller, the team looked good, and like they were about to go on a major heater, then Miller came back and they all cooled off again, and stubled through December on a win a game, lose a game pace, now it's gotten so bad they're playing like a last place team. Move Miller, see how the team responds, then decide what else is needed.
Gadzic was right all along about Vancouver and their fans🤣🤣
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch🤣🤣🤣
See you weenuks on Saturday 🫡
Hey buddy. Pick on our shitty team but lay off the fans. You were lucky to get Gretzky and that’s your only claim to fame. The fans are frustrated and you would be too.
@ sorry buddy🤣
You weren’t singing that time through out decade of darkness
so don’t make Gadzics statements true🫡buddy 🤣🤣
@ And about the Gretzky deal
Your team offered Gretz 25%ownership to play for the weenuks
But he knew better than joining that outfit 👍🏻
@ why are you so aggressive? Just be happy your team is playing well. Or is everyone in Alberta just angry because they have to live there?
@ its your big baby attitude that the fans and Canucks have.
The whole league is aware🤣
Just ask Gadzic👊🏽
Miller for Zibanejad!
I don't think Mika wants to play here.
Can't say I blame him.
lolol
Miller showed what he could do a few games ago and then quit. The biggest problem is that we will be lucky to get a bag of pucks for him, we can't even wave him him without his consent. NMC... He can be a healthy scratch but he will still be on the books....Done
Done
Pettersson should be shipped off to Montreal immediately
I'm a Habs fan. No way we don't want him
for who??
No! You were the chosen one Miller!
I liked him up until he gave up on the team. The season's only half way through, the Canucks are still in the playoff hunt, but not if Miller's going to be a big baby like this and hang his teammates out to dry like he is. He's playing selfish -- well he's being selfish and not even playing hockey, just going on the ice and watching his mates play short handed in all but name for 45 seconds, then sitting back down on the bench.
Bye bye playoffs
Fire Tocchet
Yupper, this team is not playing his style of play ..
And they need something
If Miller plays next game how about making this your last video?