New Build House - Expanding the Original Home Network Wiring!
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- In this video we will expand the network wiring in a new build house to add additional network ports into some upstairs bedrooms without causing much disruption or requiring major redecoration. We take a look at a few different options ultimately settling on repurposing existing phone extension wiring.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
00:38 - Our initial (failed) plan
03:34 - Explaining our backup plan
05:20 - Testing the original wiring
08:08 - Getting the cable upstairs
15:10 - Tour of the attic installation
16:42 - A rant about poor quality workmanship
17:17 - Installing a network point in an upstairs bedroom
22:49 - Tour of the completed installation
26:55 - Conclusion
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16:45 the words "good workmanship" and "new build" have never been spoken, Cameron.
This is true, I live in one. You can hide wonky woodwork if you cover it in plasterboard or it's in the roof space.
Although to be fair the build quality is an order of magnitude better than the 1800s terraced house I used to live in.
In a decade or perhaps less you'll see the news stories in the press about how these new builds are falling to bits.
Its just the cheapest fittings with the cheapest labour and get it done by yesterday.... unfortantely it's going to prove quite hard to disrupt the housing industry in the UK...
One of the big issues is not enough people get a professional snagger to come and identify the problems early so they can be sorted out firstly at all and secondly whilst the house builder is still on site and the trades are around. I dispute the cheap fittings etc point though, you can get quality if you're willing to pay for it, just many people don't and/or can't, and that's where the problems start. Not all house builders are the same.
My issue though is that people shouldn't have to get professional snaggers in to identify issues, the builders should be using contractors who are competent and do a good job and should be inspecting the work themselves to the same degree that a professional snagger would. I also dare say if this was coupled with logs recording who carried out which work, things would be getting done to a better standard! Then there's clearly issues around overly tight timescales however this to me is still entirely down to the builder. Agree that the fittings aren't always terrible as they're generally pretty tightly specified rather than a case of whatever was cheap at the wholesaler on that day (which you often get with hiring contractors after the fact), but the actual construction seems to just be being rushed.
2 main problems that I see - 1. all work is done to a fixed price by subbies so they benefit from getting the job done as fast as possible and will have probably left site by the time anyone turns up to snag it. Additionally, the builder will undoubtedly hire the cheapest one.. you get what you pay for. 2. As far as I can understand it, the build is signed off by someone who works for the building company - to me that is absolute madness. There should be a third party to sign this off so there's no conflict of interest.
I just want to comment right away to say it's rare when I don't have to watch a video at 2x speed. Thank you for speaking at a proper rate.
Great video, only one thing tho, If it was me I would run a pull string along with your existing path that you just ran! (You already did all the hard work, don’t make yourself do it again) as well as if you ran a pull string, in 5-10-15 years down the line, if somebody wanted fiber ran up there, it would be so simple!
Anyways just my thoughts, great work in this video though!
Props for your tenacity to make this happen Cameron and a nice touch with the PoE to get power to that wee switch in the attic. All completely unnecessary of course because house builders still seem to be living in the neolithic age when it comes to building a "modern" house. A bunch of cables and points from each room back to the closet would have cost them buttons to install, even as an off-plan install, as part of the build. I hate house builders (personal experiences).
they are builders, not network technicians, that's why you wonder why the hell did they do it like that when you come to install services in "pre-wired" homes.
@@TH-camSupportTeams Yet somehow they're capable enough to hire...lawyers, architects, plumbers, electricians, brickies. Pretty sure it's not that hard to get the sparks to run the cables and get a bod in to do the termination if the sparkies aren't capable. They're not being asked to install a "network", just the cables and some termination.
cameron, this has been one of my favourite videos you have ever done buddy
Great video mate. It’s good to see a creative way of approaching it too by reusing existing runs - something a simpleton like me could attempt!
Tip for the hole saw.
Start it. Then use a normal twist drill and drill a hole into the mark left, it lets the hole saw clear its teeth each revolution and it cuts so much better and faster.
We moved into a new build 2mths ago. We weren’t shown how to connect to the living room media plate so we’ve just got the BT hub sitting outside the hall cupboard & are using WiFi only. We do have phone points in the bedroom & office so your video has given me hope that they could be used for the internet, as they are the only two rooms we need hard wired. We were originally thinking of running cables along all the skirting boards like we had at our old house 😬 so thank you for posting this 👍
doesn't your cupboard where the internet comes in have an ethernet socket in there which links to the one on your media plate? If so the router can at least be moved to lounge / media plate location.
newly built house and it doesnt have a proper network cables run across the house....such a shame :(
Majority of the times its an optional extra when buying a new build from builders
very nice install.
Good problem solving video 👍🏻. Please keep in mind that separation of band 1 (extra low voltage cables - data etc) and band 2 cables (your mains power basically) is done not just to reduce interference but also for safety. That cat 5 cable isn’t rated for 230v (or much of the components attached to it) so keep them apart or with a suitable barrier as much as possible.
Yeah, I probably should have explained it in more detail. As far as I'm aware, it more applied to where the mains cable is single insulated so I couldn't run network cable through a socket back box but it's okay to run fully insulated T&E alongside the CAT6 from that perspective. The living room media panel for example has a separator between the mains and low voltage sides but once the cables leave the pattress, they run in the same wall cavity. Basically the same as what we've done with the network point.
Great video and guidance
Here in Sweden I think we got a law which says you have to install 2 network cables in conduit to every room. Really weird that that they didn't install a proper network in a new house and didn't even use conduit... I live in a house which got redone in the 90's and even that had conduit for the phone lines (With 90 degree bends so i couldn't reuse them...). Great video!
Interesting, that would be so much better, especially if things were run in conduit which would make replacing/adding cables so much easier!
@@camerongray1515 Not really, at least in my country they run everything in conduit, that is nice, but they typically use conduits so small that it's nearly impossible to pull another cable. One time to pull a network cable that I was desperate I had to strip the outer sheet an pull the individual pairs (of course it was not up to code because running cable with other single insulated mains cable... but it did work so whatever, was even gigabit, and the alternative was to tear down a wall and do a mess).
Never got notified of your last 3 videos at all!! Have some catching up to do on your content
When don't have the width to pull 2x cables side by side, you can always solder them tip to tip, then tape them for good measure. Usually this works, unless the new cable is much wider than the existing cable.
Nice job
Oh me oh my! And I am doing similar work here in the USA in my own house. Nice to see one of your videos again my friend! Long time! Funny, I am using UK devices in the USA as I love UK electrical products more. So now the question for me is where to find more CRABTREE Platinum series brass fittings to match what I have? The media and Euro module plates do not seem to be sold on Ebay so any clues where I can find a more complete line of those products? Not everything is listed on the internet, I have been finding out. Sometimes local shops just sell what they have and not put things online, so to speak. Cheers!
I have an extremely similar setup. ONT in the hallway, phone socket over to living room multimedia point which is then extended to the 1st floor upstairs to another multimedia point in the lounge (now study). I changed this to use RJ45 keystones and then a switch in the living room and lounge (ONT, to router/switch, out to wall socket, living room socket to switch, back out of the switch to wall to lounge where I have another switch to serve two gaming computers. I have Unifi AP's with injectors but want to tidy it all up and have them ceiling mounted rather than ad hoc/make it work which it is now. It's either going to be 3 new runs from the central hallway/staircase for ground, 1st and 2nd floor AP's to meet at a POE switch in the lounge on 1st OR make my 3 runs go down to the where my USG and ONT are and locate my POE switch there instead. Harder but I think would be better. Just the staircase is causing concern in how I'd do it (its square with stairs going along the walls)
Great vid thanks
wow, new houses are pre-wired for Ethernet and have a lot of power sockets! makes sense though.
It's good to have but disappointing they don't really do more, the most I've seen as standard is one port in the living room and one in a bedroom. Usually it's just a living room port and nothing else. I suspect the main idea would just be to connect the WAN side of the ONT port to the living room to let people have their router in the living room. Wish it was more common to just have a couple of ports in each room but usually this is charged at something ludicrous like over £100 per port.
@@camerongray1515 yeah, hopefully it only gets better from here.
@@camerongray1515 I agree, thats why we got a network port put in every bedroom, lounge and garage. our developer charged £49 per each additional data port, by standard there was 1 in lounge, master bed and bedroom 2. I added the extra to future proof the house, theyve terminated them to wall plates so all i need to do when we move in is cable trace, label and then patch it to switch & router. We move in 30th of July.
@@camerongray1515 I can confirm. I had to battle to get the builder to even consider putting networking cable in - seemingly I was the first person to ask. 24 ports around the house including two ceiling points for APs, terminated in the under-stairs cupboard next to the ONT, cost over £2k.
I'm staggered to learn that a new build house that no doubt cost several hundred thousand pounds doesn't come with a loft light 😳
I know why the floor is 2 layers. Thats a timber frame system house. The house is built in panels in a factory. The floor is built in long slabs with osb both sides. The osb is structural. The floor is of such construction that it looses its strentgh without the osb. Then once its been craned in they glue and or screw chipboard and plasterboard in. And the brick outer skin is built last.
Also the roof is built at ground level and craned into place once the walls are built.
Lol...I remember watching the unbuilt houses in my estate being assembled and my heart sank knowing what I'd paid for.
@@tehklevster Heh this comment is helpful in possibly the wrong way. I watched them build the rest of my estate and it wasn't done like this. They built it "properly" with layers of blockwork and bricks, then the floors went in as lengths of that engineered wooden I beam stuff, and the roof as a series of joists. The only annoything thing is all the internal walls are made from plasterboard and 2x4 and wobble like a cheap TV set if you slam a door. Makes drilling holes to run ethernet easy though.
@@ncot_tech Barrett use timber frame widely in the UK.
I live in a quite modern built house but my upstairs sockets are fed from the ground floor ceiling up, not from the attic down.
This would make this job a lot harder.
I had a similar idea to cull a cable from my office to the living room via the aerial cable. From the office took seconds but for some reason the aerial cable is cemented in place in multiple places. Silly question but do all sockets wiring run up to the loft or just the upstairs? Assume downstairs runs through the ceiling?
Awesome content! Have a similar set up, managed to actually pull the Ariel from one of the master bedroom up-to the loft and daisy chained the cat6, ran two cables back to the bedroom and got the Ariel back in its original place!
I did want to run all of switches from the loft, and do new drops into the bedrooms, living room, kitchen and garage but as its timber framed built too will be so awkward trying to achieve this. Think I’m going to have a switch under the stairs and then a switch upstairs and distribute it that way. One powered POE switch running a few devices upstairs and a few cameras isn’t going to break the bank. Not ideal but easiest way I think. Can easily run cables into the garage then.
Did look at some POE pass through devices so I didn’t need any plugs in the loft, did you have any suggestions?
Love your work and your channel! I'm a total networking noob but keen DIYer. I'd like to run a network cable from our cupboard to bedroom three just like you've done just for a wired connection to our office. This is the best/closest UK video I could find as my new build is configured almost exactly the same, however looks a bit overkill for what I need or would you still recommend wiring in the switches etc. for extra flexibility & expansion?
You could totally get away with just having a single cable run, the switch just allows for extra flexibility for running cables to multiple rooms. The best option would be to take every cable back to the cupboard so you only need to have a switch in there - we chose to put the switch in the attic purely because getting cables into the understairs cupboard would be too disruptive so using the existing cable and fitting a switch in the attic to serve the upstairs rooms kept disruption to a minimum.
Great video, thanks! Who built your house? I'm looking at Barratt / David Wilson and they have similar media outlets.
This wasn't my house but it's either Barratt or David Wilson (the estate was one of the ones that has both developers on it). The particular electrical accessories are from the Deta Slimline range which is extremely common across I'd say the majority of new build houses in the UK.
u naturally speak at 1.25x speed. amazing
My sister recently brought a half million pound new build flat with gigabit broadband. It was wired with a bt (phone) socket in every room and that’s it!? You could only get gigabit speeds in the laundry cupboard…
That's really bad, at least ones I've seen have a network run to the living room so a router could be placed in there, but people often aren't shown how to connect it up so the router ends up getting chucked in a cupboard with the network runs unused.
nice
Great video!
Who was the house builder?
Great little install, the bleep moment made me chuckle 😅
Nice video I really enjoyed it.
What was the USB Burrow Scope you used?
Thanks
Have you heard of GoCoax adapters?, wee boxes that convert coax TV cabling to ethernet up to 2.5gbps too! Albeit not the cheapest option. Although very convenient.
They'd work however we wanted to continue using the coax for TV reception.
as long as the coax is high quality solid core and not honeycomb/hollow core cheap crap they normally use for DTV
I have been trying to run Ethernet in my house. I have identified a coaxial drop that I believe goes from my loft space down to my ground floor unfortunately the coaxial cable barely budged when tugged it seems to be a straight drop so any idea what might be causing this? potentially taped under the wall?
May be a cable clip inside the wall or taped to other cables inside the wall - usually done to keep the cables out the way while the walls are being built. If you can get a camera into the wall through the back of a removed outlet you may be able to see what's causing it.
Just wanted to say that you could've used a moca adapter on both ends of the coax to get ethernet upstairs, the only catch is you'd need power on both ends instead of using straight poe
That would work however we wanted to continue to use the coax for TV reception
@@camerongray1515 I've seen a coax splitter that let's both run over one coax cable
@@camerongray1515 i still love what you did though, the attention to detail is remarkable!
i wouldn't if the coax was cheap hollow core crap they usually put in. DTV only needs cheap hollow core. Data needs the best you can afford.
@@TH-camSupportTeams Not really, a lot of times some of my friend and family had problem with bad reception only on one TV (so the aerial was good) the cause was the poor quality of the coaxial cable used to connect the TV to the socket. And the cable was fine, by testing continuity with the meter, it was probably just of a bad quality, good for the old analog transmission, but not enough for digital.
I can't figure out why you didn't remove the electrical/media panel box and run a fish wire down from above; to me it looks like the box was held in by screws and it would have given you the entire box opening to find the wire and pull it through before fishing it into the box and re-mounting it.
We did take the box off to take that photo however it wouldn't be easy to feed down from above without cutting into the upstairs wall/floor. We'd have to run fishing rods down from the attic through several different holes inside the walls. Walls are also full of insulation which would make it even harder to get rods through.
Cool
Awesome! What kind of person would I have to hire to do something similar in my place? Are you a network specialist or an electrician?
I'm just a DIYer with a reasonable knowledge of networking. To do this in your own place you'd be fine with an electrician but just try to find one that explicitly states that they do telecoms/networking.
@@camerongray1515 cheers mate... Moving in in 3 weeks and really hope the telephone extension to my living room used a decent cat5e as well... But I doubt it... The house was built in 2008 😂
@@maximusg88 You'd be surprised.. my parents house built in 2003 has cat5e for the phone line extensions (of which are many which were required for sky)
@@wvziccardi I hope so :)) thanks
@@wvziccardi It's usually very low quality cable, though, and I've seen CCA cables in houses before. I would not trust that for PoE applications. But it can still work fine for data.
tophat covers in chipwood floors
I never worked out why in this day and age why new builds houses dont have network ports as well.
Nice work!, Hello from Israel
New TH-cam record. 11 ads during your video. Great video though.
What was the Poe injection for the flex mini please
In this video I was using a UniFi 48v injector but any 802.3at or 802.3af compliant injector should work.
@@camerongray1515 thank you very much and what can I use for the in wall hd please the Poe injection
Nice Work. But, Maybe a Couple of MOCA Devices would have been a better solution. The COAX/Antenna cable could have been used as a network cable. It is capable of 2.5Gbps, currently. Just a thought.
MOCA devices are every expensive compared to Ethernet.
@@QuickBits $120 for two...
That could have worked but we also wanted to continue using the TV aerial coax for TV reception
@@camerongray1515 It would still carry all the signals. LAN cable different freq. than the OTA freq. MOCA divides them. Would need to add a entrance filter at the splitter.
Interesting, suppose that could work then although given the effort involved I'd rather keep things simple by just using a dedicated ethernet connection. MOCA is definitely useful though for places already wired in coax where running cables wouldn't be possible (e.g. rented properties)
I so feel your pain! Why is it only favours for friends that turn into a real 'mare?!
cat loves watching cat6
A TV aerial inside? Curious, never seen that. Is the reception any good?
When i lived in lincolnshire the airel at the house there was inside
The frequency's used a little bit of wood and tile doesn't really affect single much. But really depends on how far you are away from the mast and direction!
My grandmother (in America) has an antenna in her attic, going through a wood roof, and it works fine. She lives about 20 miles from the transmitters, which are all in the same general area.
Pretty standard in timber frame houses. Hell, sometimes they might even point the aerial in the right direction.
very common. it's only DTV, if it's pointing in the right direction you will get signal, confirmed with any meter of choice
I haven't lived in the UK for 5 years or so. Fibre to the home wasn't really a thing (that I saw), but all your videos featuring new builds have this. Is this standard for new homes or something please?
Basically yeah, new builds no longer have copper phone lines installed, instead they generally get a fibre line from Openreach (or potentially another provider such as CityFibre or ONFL) and the customer can sign up with a selection of ISPs that will use this fibre. For a while the ONT (the wall mounted box that's installed on the end of the fibre in the house) would have a socket that provided a connection for analogue phones which would then be sent over the fibre however nowadays they tend to have moved this socket onto the ISP's provided router for people who want to use analogue phones. In addition to this, some new build properties will also have coax installed for Virgin Media.
@@camerongray1515 fantastic improvement! I will look this up. My parents are on fibre to the cabinet and get awful speeds. Hopefully there are plans to upgrade the existing copper network. Thanks again for the reply.
Now that’s a good friend!
Of course my attic is 50-60°C right now… the heat index is 41°C and with insolation on an asphalt roof.
screw that. lol
good thing you have a "rooter" :D
router
My new build had not network wiring at all just phone lines done over cat 5 terminating in the utility cupboard in the end just changed the face plates over to correct sockets wired it up and it was win win cost less than £10 in the end 😂
If its a new build take a photo of that downlight and send it to the people who sold the house and the niceic they can get into a lot of trouble because of that.
They can, but they wont...
@@stevecraft00 Indeed. The spark would get no more than a slap on the wrist by the NIC and the builder won't care.
21:19 That's Cat 6. I don't know where the other five are but at least the house has Cat 6.
Typical cheap poor U.K. new house building. Think I read they make a 30% mark up on homes now. It shows. Still a good install and great video, thanks!
Tbf this is a timber frame panel house. Very efficient to build and run. If i had to choose a new build it would be this one.
Compared to US, Aus and NZ standards, they're infinitely better.
@@stevecraft00 What’s that? Does it not have bricks and breeze blocks in its building?
@@marksapollo only the outer skin is brick.
@@marksapollo www.oregon.co.uk/?page_id=11
That page is the system used by Barrett in the UK.
Ever considered a powerline set-up
I've always found powerline to have pretty disappointing performance if I'm honest. I'd view it as an alternative to WiFi rather than as an alternative to a wired connection as that's basically how it works - radio signals but sent using the mains wiring instead of an antenna. Even with adapters claiming speeds of "2000mbps" in actual practice speeds seem to only end up being a few hundred megabits per second in ideal conditions which is easily achievable using WiFi. I could only really see myself using powerline if it was impossible to run a cable and the building was too large or had thick walls that caused issues with WiFi but in a property like the one shown in this video, you'd be able to get the same/better performance than powerline by just using a decent WiFi adapter with a single decent AP located in a central location. Then for devices that don't support WiFi or where I don't want to configure it, I'd generally just use some sort of access point as a WiFi client and connect the device to it over Ethernet.
@@camerongray1515 I have this exact problem with power line! I recently got BT Fibre 900 and bought a 1000mbps power line but I could only get 150mbps so I sent them back and ran a 20m cable to my room instead and it works fine
I share the same frustrations as others. Initially went with powerline and the speeds were nowhere near advertised. Stuck with it through laziness and eventually they started randomly dropping out and dying. Eventually decided to stop being lazy and run cat6, then just wished I'd done it sooner! Powerline stuff is ok as a stop gap solution in my head, but that's it.
I found powerlin gave me worse speeds than wifi even
could never get higher than 0.6mb/s on powerline devices
20:37 lol
Surprised on a timber frame building you don’t have to use intumescent patress boxes, definitely not a good idea to use plastic ones
Yeah, there were plastic ones in other places as well, suspect it's only a requirement if a wall is a fire barrier e.g. between two properties.
why would you have a plug above another plug, it would make it so hard to plug 4 plugs in
The media panel? They aren't too bad since the sockets are all fairly spaced out, they're pretty common in new build houses. Not something I've ever fitted myself but I suppose they're good in the sense that there's absolutely tonnes of space behind the modules.
@@camerongray1515 well I suppose but just look like it wouldn't fit
There was 1 more cat than just cat6
Cat studies intently from behind duvet camouflage then squeezes into wall space once opened up, just because it can.
why joint the cat 5e cable when you could have just pulled new cable with the same rating. all those joints are definitely not a good thing.
Pulling in a new cable wouldn't have been possible without a large amount of damage. Obviously that would have been the first choice however the layout and construction of the building would have made this difficult. We'd have had to lift large parts of the upstairs carpet and cut into the floor in several places, or we'd have had to cut into walls to drop cables down. The whole idea was to do this with the minimal disruption possible in terms of needing to move furniture or redecorate. This is why we tested it all before committing to the idea, while a couple of joints aren't ideal, in this situation with the lengths involved and with decent quality couplers, it worked out fine.
Sounds like you're talking like a VHS tape on fast forward lol
0.75 playback speed saved me!
Band 1 and band 2 conductors not separated
Not an issue as the twin and earth is sheathed, there would be no issue with having T&E where someone can literally touch it so why would there be an issue with the CAT6 being next to it? The only time this would be an issue would be if I was running the CAT6 through an enclosure where basic insulation is exposed such as through a pattress behind a socket but this hasn't been done in this case. The media panel does have both Band 1 and 2 conductors in it however you can see they are separated by an earthed partition. Obviously this would be different if I was running CAT6 through a conduit with single insulated conductors but that's not the case here. What we have done is no different to the original install where the Band 1 CAT5e and Coax are running next to the Band 2 T&E to the media panel or where the T&E feeding a socket in the hallway runs through the same wall cavity as the original phone extension ran. If you can't run T&E through the same wall cavity as CAT6 then where do you draw the line - can they run under the same floor? What about having them running through the attic?
I swear i had to check if the video really was 1x speed xD
That double outlet in the bedroom isn’t level with the mains outlet.
Never, I repeat, NEVER tape cables together...
Or squirrels.
If you are trying to put a network switch in an attic then that is not a great idea. My attic gets to 40c+ in the summer, the switch is probably rated to 40c max, worst case it catches fire, best case it fails every summer..
This was a consideration but it's not something I'm too concerned about, the switch is rated up to 45c. When we did the install it was a pretty hot day and while the attic was warm, it wasn't close to 45c, I actually expected it to be hotter, I imagine the solar panels on the house also help to block a lot of the heat. I cannot imagine how a switch running slightly too hot for a few hours would be any sort of fire risk, worst case it becomes unstable or fails but I'd be shocked if this happened given how rarely the attic will even approach such temperatures. I'd maybe think twice about say fitting a mains powered PoE switch and powering a tonne of devices from it, but for a switch as basic as the USW-Flex-Mini I'm not really going to lose sleep over it.
@@camerongray1515 Your lucky your loft remains at a reasonable temperature. Mine has concrete tiles, it gets stinking hot! As its a POE switch I guess it will be ok. At high temperatures electrolytic capacitors start to fail, these are in the power supply section. On modern mains gear the PSU tends to fail closed circuit blowing the internal fuse, on older kit it did have a tendency to sit and cook. The POE PSU will shut down if the caps fail as control chip monitors for over voltage and shuts down the switcher, so I guess it is pretty fail safe. Personally though I always avoid running gear in lofts. I ran my network cables into the loft, then down beside a soil pipe to a place under some stairs and fitted the switch in that position.
20:40 So infuriating when that happens
Only comment I have is you've removed the phone line. Admittedly it's all going to be VOIP soon so probably won't matter.
Yeah, they had absolutely zero intentions to use a landline phone so it wasn't an issue. Even if they did in the future I imagine they'd use cordless phones and therefore could put the base station in the hall cupboard and plug it directly into the ONT. (I didn't explain it in the video but the analogue phone line is delivered over fibre and the idea would be that you'd run a cable from a port on the ONT into that port in the hall cupboard to connect the extensions up so you can simply connect a phone straight into the ONT). The hall cupboard also borders the living room on a different wall from the media panel so if it was absolutely required, it wouldn't be too hard to run a phone extension from the hall cupboard to the other side of that wall and add a phone socket on that adjoining wall.
2 ad, s in 10 minutes TH-cam really have destroyed the Internet, its terrible, I switched off the TV and went back to my ad free phone 🤷🏼♂️, shame on Google
New builds in the UK are a joke :-(
TP-Link Broadband Over Mains adapters might actually be better as where you have mains sockets you can have a Wireless Access Point.
Trust me you'll never get near 1GB connectivity with these network over mains things, and to be honest, over multiple smallish houses, I've found you're lucky to get 10-20Mb despite the spec being ~300-400Mb. Also you're broadcasting your network transmissions out over the mains to everyone else in the street. Sure you can do the same with wireless but at least there's an additional WPA(2?) encryption layer over the top.
@@tehklevster A lot depends on how noisy your mains wiring is the model/brand of adaptor and what circuits the adaptors end up on. I had a set up with three adaptors and got 480Mbps between two and around 90Mbps from those two to the third. The first two must have been on the same circuit while the third was on another so the signal had to go back to the main board then back out. The adaptors were Edimax 600Mbps models and the setup was in a 70's New Zealand home with unearthed fluorescent lights and quite a number of switching powers supplies. Obviously everyone's mileage will vary...
@@tehklevster I have some of these devices in my house. They don't send ethernet data across the mains wiring unencrypted. I am now curious whether the signal goes beyond my house wiring though.
@@tehklevster Well all the conducts in our house are steel pipe with the required enclosures for each end (you know the type which is also used in prisons which is not resin based) except for the part that extends into the office so I suspect the signal cannot escape and the signal would be attenuated by the brick walls of the house so now what.
Powerline ethernet can work but it's not remotely comparable to wired ethernet. It's more similar to WiFi but using the mains wiring instead of an antenna. Performance is never anywhere close to the rated speed of the powerline standard, often a high end WiFi setup can perform better.
You talk lightening fast! Slow down
Play video with 0.5x speed. Then it is normal speed ;)
@@BeamDeam lol!!
@@BeamDeam .75 speed sounds perfect! Can’t even tell!
This is a slow speaking Scottish person 😂 it’s relatively clearer than most
PLEASE speak slower
This bloke is a joke, he thinks he knows but he not got a clue!!
Care to explain or provide constructive criticism of how I could have done this better then?
@@camerongray1515 He’s trolling you. Check his comment history.
@@camerongray1515 yeah all good. Just a troll
Cameron you should join our discord.
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So many adblockers....Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin are your friends (sorry Cameron).
@@tehklevster interesting, they work on TV’s and tablets? Or did you jump to conclusions? It’s funny how not everyone has access to things the way you expect. The world doesn’t work the way you see it in one moment in time.
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@@ncot_tech thanks for the constructive advise. But such a devise is not in my wheelhouse. I don’t even have a computer to program it. My computer is an iPad. I watch most of my TH-cam on the TV. If I wasn’t on a disability pension I would pay for the premium service.
It's a 30 minute video, and if you compare this to something like TV, it's actually very good. People need to make money somehow!
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